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[Birdy]

Yeah, I meant spirit.  Sorry.

Lol. Was confused for a second there.  XD

[Nyaore]

[Brelakor]

Just got to here with my what will be my canon Solas romance playthrough...

 

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I'm just going to go and repeatedly choose to sit on the roof with Sera for the next 2 hours or something until I stop crying sob 

[Renmiri1]

[Birdy]

Lol. I have nothing for that.  XD Take some Solas as a prize.

http://brekkr.tumblr.com/

[Renmiri1]

Just got to here with my what will be my canon Solas romance playthrough...

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

I'm just going to go and repeatedly choose to sit on the roof with Sera for the next 2 hours or something until I stop crying sob 

Aww I did the same thing!!

 

Sera is a bud, she made me laugh and cry at the same time.

 

Your Lavellan is gorgeous!

[vertigomez]

I finally got a good screenshot of the face Solas makes when the Inquisitor first attempts to seal the Breach.

 
That is definitely the face of

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someone who knows what he's done and is desperate to fix it.

 
Gah. :'(

Ohhh, spot on. He looks absolutely devastated. You can practically see how desperate he is for this to work.

[Nyaore]

Lol. I have nothing for that.  XD Take some Solas as a prize.

http://brekkr.tumblr.com/

Rofl Yay Solegg!

[zambixi]

My friend actually just made a neat gif set about this here. I'll put it under a cut here for convenience along with the great tags she wrote. (be wary of spoilers in the gifs of course)

 

 

 

/snip/

 

This is so helpful getting everything in one place! But that bit about the Dalish and the tree...I had forgotten about that and laughed so hard. Solas can be so snarky sometimes

 

 

Yeah, super-spirit Cole honestly creeped me out immensely when I saw his final scene where he just erases all that he was before to the point where I'm not sure I can't meta-game myself into forcing him to be human on all subsequent playthroughs. It just... Felt rather heart breaking to see that, even though he seems altogether content.

 

I will say though I like it when people in this thread point out things that change my views on an aspect of the game or point out I'm wrong about something. It's done in such a positive and discussion focused manner and I can't help but love you guys for it. One of my favorite things about this thread.

 

 

 

That scene soured me on spirit Cole too. He's probably happier as a spirit but that's because he can just... wash away everything that happens. He doesn't have to remember so he doesn't. But is it right to take that away from him? This is honestly the hardest decision in the game for me.

 

 

I remember having a conversation with one of my teacher's in HS about how I felt bad a lot of the kids in our class had never experienced anything difficult in their lives so their experiences were limited (I was a weird and apparently arrogant kid...there was more context than that but whatever). She basically asked if that was really such a bad thing, since it meant they hadn't experienced a lot of pain. It's stuck with me and I think about it with Cole. Is it that bad if he doesn't remember pain? I think if you were to ask Spirit Cole he would say no, that that's the way he's supposed to be. I think if you were to ask Human Cole after the initial shock he would say yes, because pain is essential to the "human" experience, and he can be more compassionate and compassionate with greater understanding by having and remembering that experience. It is probably the most difficult decision for me to reconcile with my real life feelings. More difficult than the Fade decision even.

[Brelakor]

Aww I did the same thing!!

 

Sera is a bud, she made me laugh and cry at the same time.

 

Your Lavellan is gorgeous!

Ah, thank you  

 

I choose to ignore that Sera is going to mock her unvallaslinness, in my headcanon my Lavellan and Sera are bff's and they sit on the roof together while Sera tries to cheer Lavellan up by trash talking elfy, lol, and my Inquisitor is just like 'haha... that's... funny... *GREAT BIG SOBBY TEARS*', and then we make cookies or something

[Brass_Buckles]

Yeah, I don't like it when they add in game-changing tid bits like that because it tends to make me disengage - instead of thinking "oh, gee, that's a lousy thing for the dalish to do", I think "hmm, Bioware must want to even out the two sides of the argument here". Because really, we should have already known about that particular Dalish proclivity earlier if it was going to be a thing - as it is, it's sort of immersion breaking.

Just gonna point out that clan rules may be regional; every clan lives in different areas, some never even leave the wilderness.  Those who have to worry about templars probably would have to have rules about how many mages there are in the clan, to make it easier to avoid being detected.  But, if you're living in the deep woods away from humans, it'd be more likely you'd have more mages.

 

I don't know for sure, of course.  The suggestion was ALL Dalish had just three mages per clan, which, as others have said, doesn't make a lot of sense.

 

In regards to the vallaslin, I'm pretty sure the vallaslin featuring what looks like a raven is related to Dirthamen, the Keeper of Secrets because ravens features as his servants.

 

So far, I rather like what they are doing with the ancient elves, their society and gods especially because it seems more interesting to me that the past wouldn't be all glory and fair - ancient empires rarely are. I also like the idea that their gods are complex beings who may have attained godhood but it is godhood in comparison to their followers.

 

I'm also of the theory that bringing back the elven "gods" would bring about a whole lot of trouble for everyone in Thedas if they want to be worshipped and have their empire back again. Seriously, if Flemeth is anything to go by then they would be hell trying to defeat especially seeing as she would be revived through just a piece of something.

 

Pretty sure the bird vallaslin is meant to be an owl, thus Falon'din (insert acknowledgement that I could easily be wrong).  If you look at the marks on the cheeks, they kind of look like stitches/drawn flesh... like a corpse, perhaps ritually prepared for burial.  I think what I picked for Uth'shiral was June's, but also could be Dirthamen because of the line over the lips indicating "secrets."  However, I remain uncertain.

 

 

Edit :
Whoops Wrong story

 

"Hates wisdom and kindness." (Solas proceeds to approve every time you prove yourself "wise" or do something "kind.")  ... You were saying, Merril?

 

I'm willing to bet they just used the environment so they didn't have to build a new one. But it's not actually supposed to be there, tho.

 

Could be wrong tho.

 

The crossroads seemed more empty and barren in comparison. This looked like an location that was constructed entirely for this scene and does not appear elsewhere hence my belief it might be a DLC-location (Dang it! I believe it now!).   

 

Re: The Crossroads.  In The Masked Empire, the elves who visited were able to make it more "alive" basically just with a thought, even those who weren't mages.  It's like that's a separate world made specifically for them.  They move better there, it rejuvenates them, etc.

 

So it would stand to reason that the presence of two elven gods could really brighten up the place and make the grass grow, etc.  That's probably how it used to look before the eluvians fell into disuse.

 

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I highly doubt Fen'Harel was the one that killed Felassan. For a couple of reasons. First, it seems out of character for Solas to kill someone for disobeying him in the particular way that Felassan disobeyed his boss (in that Felassan was protecting a friend). Second, why couldn't Solas go ask Briala himself? Or make her give him the passcode? He's not a completely inept manipulator. I'm not sure exactly where TME is in relation to the timeline, but I think Solas was probably awake for it (it wasn't that long ago). He could have had Felassan introduce him to Briala and build the relationship from there. Not to mention Solas doesn't have any reaction towards Briala if you bring him along to Halamshiral. It doesn't seem like he knows who she is. If he knew she had the eluvian network, why wouldn't he try to influence the Inquisitor into getting into her good graces? Why wouldn't he advise against killing her (since her death would mean that no one could access the network)? Why wouldn't Solas try to get the Inquisitor to get access to the eluvians through Imshael? There are just too many instances where Solas didn't do something for me to think he even knows about the network.

 

I think it was either Mythal, or one of the creators trapped in the fade (My bet is Falon'Din is involved. I'll keep saying it until I'm proven otherwise). I also think the network will come up in DLC, since it was pretty useless in the book (only comes up at the end, and Briala hasn't figured out what it's going to be for). There's too much potential there for them to just leave. Annnd Weekes is the writer, so I bet it ties into whatever is going on with the elfy stuff.

 

Felassan was a slave; he used the term "master."  That's the sole reason I do not believe Solas is the killer.  Remember, Fen'harel is the god of rebellion.  Thus, it stands to reason that someone displeased with his master might undermine that master by switching his allegiance to Fen'harel instead.

 

However, could I be wrong?  Certainly.  Though if Solas is the killer, he should know about Briala, and he should be trying to gain access to her eluvian.  Perhaps in DLC?

 

I also considered another angle, that Solas at that point may be the killer if he'd wanted to keep the eluvians locked--remember that his desire to free the ancient elven gods is a recent thing.  But we're given to understand the killer wants to open the eluvians.  Could be someone is trapped in the Fade/some other layer of reality, and wants back out.  Could be Solas... but would Solas have a slave?

 

I think Weekes wanted us to speculate.  I also think we'll get some kind of answer on that eventually.

 

He was more of a trickster in the stories. We don't really know how many or correct, but I would at least think that the ones Felassan tells Briala in TME are somewhat accurate. In those, he's pretty morally ambivalent (the "slow arrow" story is pretty grim). And there are moments where he's not all nobility and gentleness (the mages, the rebellion talks with Sera, etc). I do think he's generally a good person now, but there does seem to be an implication that that might not always have been true. Or that he might have another side we haven't seen. I think the people who portray him more in line with the "trickster" archetype (though I don't know that is really how they're portraying him but another time) are trying to reconcile the Fen'Harel myths with gentle Solas. Or....that's just their kink. Maybe I'm giving too much credit.

 

 

 

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It would have spoiled the current ambiguity of Solas' character if we knew Fen'Harel killed Felassan. I guess he can kill the mages, but that's a little different IMO. I think regardless they want to keep the good guy/bad guy tension with Solas' character, and leaving Felassan's killer as a mystery lets them do that.

 

I hope it wasn't him though. I don't like thinking of Solas as being that ruthless back then. Now I feel like he might get that way because he doesn't have options, but he wasn't as desperate before. And I feel like it's a bit weird to kill someone who is seemingly one of the People through and through.

I'm with others on the mage-killing thing... he does that because it's personal.  They killed a very dear friend of his, tortured her.   And they showed no remorse.  Now, will it impact later gameplay or DA4 if you let him kill them versus if you didn't?  I don't know.  I suppose it will be interesting to find out.

 

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I like the kinder and gentler Fen'Harel as much as anyone, maybe more, but I think Solas is, well, more complicated than that.  That's pretty much his theme.  Remember when he was described as scotch bonnet candy?  I saw that when he was willing to kill a bunch of mages for the crimes of being desperate and stupid.  Do you think he wouldn't be willing to kill someone who he saw as a traitor to his people, and their chances at a future?  The story of killing the adults to save the children is essentially a summary of what he did to the elven empire.  It just didn't turn out the way he hoped.

Felassan was full of Fen'Harel stories, going as far as to compare Briala to him.  Which he said Fen'Harel wouldn't necessarily approve of (Briala isn't his people,remember?).  And his last words to the figure who killed him in the Fade was "she reminds me of"...likely the last word was "you".  Felassan eventually sided with the idea of allowing modern elves to find their own way without any intervention from the ancients or gods.  We know that Solas still doesn't agree with that idea.  

As for why Solas doesn't approach Briala, who knows, maybe he doesn't want her involved with his plans.  Maybe he doesn't want to risk anyone other than himself going where the elven gods are: we still don't know what's going to happen when/if that goes down.  He also doesn't necessarily know what she looks like, he never met her himself.  But more likely they probably didn't want to bother with any reaction between Solas and Briala in the game because they weren't doing anything with the eluvians in the plot.  And Solas can't get the passcode through Imshael, because the passcode has already been set by Briala.

I'm not trying to make Solas look like the bad guy here, I just see him as a complex person.  

On another note, it's a nice touch that Briala's passcode translates to "Fen'Harel's blessing".

 

Solas is complicated, yes, and I believe he may have been a much harder sort of person in the past.  Seeing the suffering he's caused has done something to him, beyond just causing him a lot of pain.  Even had he killed Felassan, I think it might be because he didn't quite comprehend how bad the situation was.  Now that he does... well, now he's nicer.  But I repeat that I don't really think he did it, because Felassan was a slave and we have no reason to think that Solas/Fen'harel would keep slaves.  He wants to see people be free.

[scintilla]

 

I remember having a conversation with one of my teacher's in HS about how I felt bad a lot of the kids in our class had never experienced anything difficult in their lives so their experiences were limited (I was a weird and apparently arrogant kid...there was more context than that but whatever). She basically asked if that was really such a bad thing, since it meant they hadn't experienced a lot of pain. It's stuck with me and I think about it with Cole. Is it that bad if he doesn't remember pain? I think if you were to ask Spirit Cole he would say no, that that's the way he's supposed to be. I think if you were to ask Human Cole after the initial shock he would say yes, because pain is essential to the "human" experience, and he can be more compassionate and compassionate with greater understanding by having and remembering that experience. It is probably the most difficult decision for me to reconcile with my real life feelings. More difficult than the Fade decision even.

 

After the Temple of Mythal, spirit Cole makes himself forget human Cole and says in this distant voice that you can still call him Cole if you like. It's not just that he's forgetting pain, he's erasing connections to the world. Which is probably natural for a spirit (and good job on BioWare for making them alien) but it bothered me a lot and I'm not sure I'm articulate enough to say why. Perhaps the implication that nothing else that follows would really mean anything to him? Still, I'm not sure that's a good enough reason to change his nature. So yeah, who to leave in the Fade was actually easy compared to this. The only other decision I waffle on anywhere near this much is the Well.

[DragonFr0st]

I finally got a good screenshot of the face Solas makes when the Inquisitor first attempts to seal the Breach.

 

That is definitely the face of

Spoiler

someone who knows what he's done and is desperate to fix it.

 

Gah. :'(

 

This look has broken my heart.

[Brass_Buckles]

Back on the topic of eluvians:

 

I'm thinking they were sealed on purpose.  All of them. At the same time.  That would be one of the main reasons that the elves fell.  Their cities and temples were fractured.  Trade and travel were crippled.  And, perhaps, they originated from whatever world the eluvians connect to, which would be potentially the real reason their immortality went away.  Hundreds of thousands of elves must have died for want of simple resources or, in the case of temples and tombs, for want of escape routes.

 

The implication is that Solas/Fen'harel may have managed to seal them all away when he sealed the elven gods, but whether that's true, we don't know.  I don't know how he would have managed, since they all seem to have different keys.  Perhaps each key once belonged to a different god?  And, of course, plenty of them are now damaged and destroyed.

 

But it's strange... we know so many eluvians still function.  Why have they not been used since ancient times?  Surely someone's come across them and figured out how to use them?  Why wouldn't someone go exploring?  I mean, this is of particular interest to the Dalish, right?

 

Could they have been sealed away for reasons other than sealing the gods, and/or by someone other than Fen'harel? And if so, why?  What if there's something more horribly dangerous than elven gods locked away in there, somewhere?  There probably is, with Andruil and the Abyss.

 

Solas only seems to want to open ONE specific eluvian or set of eluvians.  If he sealed all of them, then there may be other ways to get to the one he wants to find.  If not, then... who did seal the rest, and again, WHY?  Were they in danger of destruction?  Did the Tevinters gain access?

 

I dunno, just... the eluvians and their abandonment/being locked really confounds me when I think about it.  There had to be a reason, and I'm not sure if Solas/Fen'harel would have even been able to lock them all at once, not when they all have separate keys--he'd have needed to acquire all the keys.

[Brelakor]

Also if anyone's curious, pre break-up I could ask Sera if she wanted more than friendship, and she'd say something like 'Sorry I don't share, I know you're with Solas.' Post break up, I can no longer ask her to be more than friends. If I ask her about Solas post break-up she still comments about him the same way she did pre-break up

 

I take this as good faith meaning we will get to continue our Solas romances...

[amranthe]

 

After the Temple of Mythal, spirit Cole makes himself forget human Cole and says in this distant voice that you can still call him Cole if you like. It's not just that he's forgetting pain, he's erasing connections to the world. Which is probably natural for a spirit (and good job on BioWare for making them alien) but it bothered me a lot and I'm not sure I'm articulate enough to say why. Perhaps the implication that nothing else that follows would really mean anything to him? Still, I'm not sure that's a good enough reason to change his nature. So yeah, who to leave in the Fade was actually easy compared to this. The only other decision I waffle on anywhere near this much is the Well.

 

 

I agree it is one of the tougher ones. I think it's because, either way, you have to impose your will on someone who you really have no idea what their own preference would be. 

 

But I tend to agree with Varric, in that he claims Cole must already be "more human" because the amulet doesn't work. Also, Cole is unique among spirits, even Solas says in the beginning he's never seen a spirit able to just come across without possession. So, I just feel like being more human is the natural progression. I think on some level, Cole doesn't want to be "just a spirit". 

 

But maybe that's me projecting. I will admit I was immediately creeped out by his scene if you side with Solas, where's he's flitting about being all spirity and I was just like DO NOT WANT *reload*. As has been pointed out, the idea of him not remembering anything was just... weird. I feel like he'd want to remember why he's doing what he's doing.

 

I really can see the argument both ways, but I just like the idea of character progression that the spirit line doesn't have. It's also kind of fun to have *one* thing I don't agree with Solas on

[Brass_Buckles]

 

 

 

After the Temple of Mythal, spirit Cole makes himself forget human Cole and says in this distant voice that you can still call him Cole if you like. It's not just that he's forgetting pain, he's erasing connections to the world. Which is probably natural for a spirit (and good job on BioWare for making them alien) but it bothered me a lot and I'm not sure I'm articulate enough to say why. Perhaps the implication that nothing else that follows would really mean anything to him? Still, I'm not sure that's a good enough reason to change his nature. So yeah, who to leave in the Fade was actually easy compared to this. The only other decision I waffle on anywhere near this much is the Well.

 

 

Yeah, that scene made me really sad too.  But then I realized that the reason he did it was because otherwise he'd give in to the despair of not being able to help someone, and that would turn him into a demon.  I think his connection to the Inquisition remains--until something happens that he can't fix, such as the Solas/Lavellan breakup, for instance--but he doesn't remember the human Cole.  Forgetting is how he stays pure, and how he can keep being compassionate.

 

I think human Cole struggles with things more, and honestly isn't as happy.  The happiness of Spirit-Cole comes at the cost of what most of us would consider our identity.  For Cole, though, compassion and helping others is his identity, so perhaps he doesn't need to remember things we'd consider relevant.  But, this may also mean that someday he has to forget his friendships, because mortals suffer and die and he can't save them all.

 

So basically I think I'm saying that neither side is better than the other.  Both come at a cost.

[Lorien19]

About Solas portrayal as a trickster,I believe he is indeed Cunning,he is a rather intelligent and smart individual and all the evidence points in him being part of politically complicated society,where he was in a position of power.I personally believe that the "Orlesian game" didn't hold a candle to the political games of power that took place in ancient Elvhenan.Solas seems to enjoy playing this game,however due to his more open minded nature,he's able to see the world from different perspectives, hence he abhors those who abuse their power for their own ends.
I wouldn't be surprised if we find out that he constantly outwitted the other "gods",or that he was an excellent player of the game.Some traits someone might attribute to a trickster,still I think that while he might have enjoyed the thrill,his participation in it was deep down out of necessity.
It might have been exciting for him to outmanoeuver everyone,but in reality it just drove him away from his real purpose and that being the search for wisdom and knowledge.

[scintilla]

Also if anyone's curious, pre break-up I could ask Sera if she wanted more than friendship, and she'd say something like 'Sorry I don't share, I know you're with Solas.' Post break up, I can no longer ask her to be more than friends. If I ask her about Solas post break-up she still comments about him the same way she did pre-break up

 

I take this as good faith meaning we will get to continue our Solas romances...

 

It could just be game mechanics. They may not have an easy way to reset the romance status after you've taken the final confirmation in a romance.

[dragondreamer]

Where does Felassan use the term "master"?  That still doesn't mean much, because there's a lot of ways that word can be used, but I'd like to look at that. 

 

Back on the topic of eluvians:

 

I'm thinking they were sealed on purpose.  All of them. At the same time.  That would be one of the main reasons that the elves fell.  Their cities and temples were fractured.  Trade and travel were crippled.  And, perhaps, they originated from whatever world the eluvians connect to, which would be potentially the real reason their immortality went away.  Hundreds of thousands of elves must have died for want of simple resources or, in the case of temples and tombs, for want of escape routes.

 

The implication is that Solas/Fen'harel may have managed to seal them all away when he sealed the elven gods, but whether that's true, we don't know.  I don't know how he would have managed, since they all seem to have different keys.  Perhaps each key once belonged to a different god?  And, of course, plenty of them are now damaged and destroyed.

 

But it's strange... we know so many eluvians still function.  Why have they not been used since ancient times?  Surely someone's come across them and figured out how to use them?  Why wouldn't someone go exploring?  I mean, this is of particular interest to the Dalish, right?

 

Could they have been sealed away for reasons other than sealing the gods, and/or by someone other than Fen'harel? And if so, why?  What if there's something more horribly dangerous than elven gods locked away in there, somewhere?  There probably is, with Andruil and the Abyss.

 

Solas only seems to want to open ONE specific eluvian or set of eluvians.  If he sealed all of them, then there may be other ways to get to the one he wants to find.  If not, then... who did seal the rest, and again, WHY?  Were they in danger of destruction?  Did the Tevinters gain access?

 

I dunno, just... the eluvians and their abandonment/being locked really confounds me when I think about it.  There had to be a reason, and I'm not sure if Solas/Fen'harel would have even been able to lock them all at once, not when they all have separate keys--he'd have needed to acquire all the keys.

 

I had an old theory that the elves originally came from another dimension, if not the Fade itself.  The likelihood of them originally being some sort of half-spirit being seems a little more plausible now, but who knows.  It sounds like the eluvians all shut down at roughly the same time, trapping everyone, even slaves, or that's how it seemed in Masked Empire.  Kinda like someone threw a switch...

 

The Tevinters took eluvians after the fall of Arlathan and studied them, but they were only able to do very limited things with them.  Sounds like the lack of a passcode or key was the main problem.  It would also be why Merrill's mirror wouldn't work even after she fixed it.

[zambixi]

Back on the topic of eluvians:

 

I'm thinking they were sealed on purpose.  All of them. At the same time.  That would be one of the main reasons that the elves fell.  Their cities and temples were fractured.  Trade and travel were crippled.  And, perhaps, they originated from whatever world the eluvians connect to, which would be potentially the real reason their immortality went away.  Hundreds of thousands of elves must have died for want of simple resources or, in the case of temples and tombs, for want of escape routes.

 

The implication is that Solas/Fen'harel may have managed to seal them all away when he sealed the elven gods, but whether that's true, we don't know.  I don't know how he would have managed, since they all seem to have different keys.  Perhaps each key once belonged to a different god?  And, of course, plenty of them are now damaged and destroyed.

 

But it's strange... we know so many eluvians still function.  Why have they not been used since ancient times?  Surely someone's come across them and figured out how to use them?  Why wouldn't someone go exploring?  I mean, this is of particular interest to the Dalish, right?

 

Could they have been sealed away for reasons other than sealing the gods, and/or by someone other than Fen'harel? And if so, why?  What if there's something more horribly dangerous than elven gods locked away in there, somewhere?  There probably is, with Andruil and the Abyss.

 

Solas only seems to want to open ONE specific eluvian or set of eluvians.  If he sealed all of them, then there may be other ways to get to the one he wants to find.  If not, then... who did seal the rest, and again, WHY?  Were they in danger of destruction?  Did the Tevinters gain access?

 

I dunno, just... the eluvians and their abandonment/being locked really confounds me when I think about it.  There had to be a reason, and I'm not sure if Solas/Fen'harel would have even been able to lock them all at once, not when they all have separate keys--he'd have needed to acquire all the keys.

 

I really hope they address this aspect of the eluvian mystery and don't just hand-wave and say "open for business!". TME spoilers follow:

 

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In TME don't they go into a crypt where it seems like a group of people were trapped? As if they tried to flee from somewhere, but then the eluvians closed both in front of and behind them? So they were trapped and died there, IIRC. So it does definitely seem like many of them closed at the same time. Then again, there are apparently a few still open; Morrigan mentions as much during the tour of the Crossroads. I can't imagine she opened them all by herself -- some of them were probably unlocked when she arrived. But did someone else do it or were they never closed?

 

I find it strange that Morrigan seems to have been the only one we know of to unlock an Eluvian by herself. It's never really explained how she manages to do so, or why she can while so many others with more power, knowledge, or desire have failed. Did she consult a demon like Ismael? Or is it something to do with her connection to Mythal? Is it just that not many people know about them, even though they are now familiar to the player? I hope that gets cleared up eventually

[kalasaurus]

It could just be game mechanics. They may not have an easy way to reset the romance status after you've taken the final confirmation in a romance.

 

Look at you, raining on the parade...

 

Just kidding .  That's probably the *logical* reason for why it works like that, though it does feed into our hope for more Solas in the future *sigh*

[Brass_Buckles]

About Solas portrayal as a trickster,I believe he is indeed Cunning,he is a rather intelligent and smart individual and all the evidence points in him being part of politically complicated society,where he was in a position of power.I personally believe that the "Orlesian game" didn't hold a candle to the political games of power that took place in ancient Elvhenan.Solas seems to enjoy playing this game,however due to his more open minded nature,he's able to see the world from different perspectives, hence he abhors those who abuse their power for their own ends.
I wouldn't be surprised if we find out that he constantly outwitted the other "gods",or that he was an excellent player of the game.Some traits someone might attribute to a trickster,still I think that while he might have enjoyed the thrill,his participation in it was deep down out of necessity.
It might have been exciting for him to outmanoeuver everyone,but in reality it just drove him away from his real purpose and that being the search for wisdom and knowledge.

 

Well, he did find the politics and intrigue enthralling.  And the sex.  Can't forget the sex.

 

My Uth'shiral Lavellan must have been so disappointed after that.  My head canon is that they never did the deed.  She was too shy to ask, and Mr. "I'll just let you make the first move," never pushed for it.  On the upside, she's probably pretty glad they didn't, after what happened.

 

No way does she not suspect Solas is an ancient elf... but suspicion is one thing, confirmation is entirely another.  Not to mention I'm sure that his being Fen'harel is the furthest thing from her mind.

[Eivuwan]

What if the Black City holds the reapers?

[zambixi]

What if the Black City holds the reapers?

 

Little computer-boy shows up after you walk through an Eluvian...