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[Hattress]

Who don't want a happy ending…but have to be realistic, for a character like Solas I just don't see BW will give a happy ending easily. But still I hope they will invest more time on it. Solas/Lavellan has the potential to develop into something worth noticing in BW's game history.

[Nyaore]

 

Plot twist: Maker falls in love with Lavellan. Love triangle ensues. Final boss battle is fought against the scorned lover.

 

Then Andraste pulls a Hera and starts trying to murder Lavellan with all manner of impossible tasks because she stole her man. Lavellan is just caught in the middle of it all wondering what the hell is going on and if she can go back to when things weren't crazy, but no such luck.

[Birdy]

Talkign about possible endings.  I'd also be happy with a reincarnation. Whether it's Solas waiting for Quizzy to be reborn in "another life" or they both die and we get a cutscene years later of them meeting and falling in love again in "another life".   

[ganaganah]

Hi I'm new to the forums.  I wrote my first fan fiction this week.  Not sure if it's any good though.  Nobody really commented.  I'm just going to leave this here....

 

http://archiveofouro...hapters/6173777

[Eivuwan]

RE: Happy Ending with Solas

 

I honestly wouldn't mind either way, I love both tragedy and fluff, but the most satisfying ending for me would be one of MY CHOICE. 

Like, I could make choices in the game that dictate whether I get the good/happy ending, the well sh-t/tragic ending, or maybe a bit of both. Multiple outcomes sort of deal, makes everyone happy. 

When you are given an outcome you have no say in (especially a tragic one in these sort of games) a lot of the times it gives you that feeling of "What's the point?" Which I would really like to avoid. Icky feeling. 

 

It seems like choice is fun, but lack of choice gives more feels (even though sometimes it's more like frustrated feels).

[jellobell]

 

So who here is hoping for a bittersweet/tragic ending to the Solas story and who is hoping for a happy ending above all else? I want to get an idea of the percentage.

I'm kinda mad at myself for how much I want a happy ending (because if it doesn't happen I'll be heartbroken and dammit I don't want to do that to myself). Not a white picket fence and babies sort of happy ending. Just together and alive will do it for me. But I just really want something to go right for Solas. For once. After all of the bittersweet in this game I'm craving some sort of resolution. Especially because the romance ended on such a cliffhanger. It's like it stopped right before the climax, and here I am, still full of tension. ...Wait, that metaphor sort of got away from me there.

 

I know I'm late to the party but bless all y'all for acknowledging the whole "super sexay Fen'Harel eclipses Solas's actual character in fic" thing. It seems like people are focusing on what they want Fen'Harel to be (Loki) and not on who he actually is -- an almost pacifistic lonely ancient bald Fade nerd who keeps screwing up the world trying to make it better. And I'm not even talking about smut, because obviously people's kinks are gonna take precedence there and I'm not gonna claim to know a damn thing about his, um, bedside manner (I'll leave that to Weekes). But... just... gen fic or fluff or whatever where he's unrecognizable ehh.

Don't get me wrong - I would never bash anybody's fic, and there's plenty I enjoy reading even if they seem a little OOC to me (looking at you, kink meme). I would just like the Solas tag on AO3 to, ya know... actually have Solas in it.

I think it bothers me because it's happening so SOON. We've just started getting fic of him and he's already not himself lmao. Usually it takes a few years!

HA! Yeah, the pace has me both worried and tickled. It's happening before my eyes, and it's kinda nice to be able to look back at my first reaction to the reveal and tell myself, "I told you so".

 

But as I said before, Fen'harel has always been popular. There was Fen'harel fanfic back when all we knew about him was his codex entry. The whole concept is fandom catnip. Trickster god of ambiguous morality who is also a wolf? And they made him a love interest? Yeah, this was always gonna happen. Couldn't have happened to a more adorable elf nerd, too.   I wonder what Solas would think of his popularity. 

 

So what do you think Solas likes to drink? I'm thinking warm milk 'cause it helps him sleep. Maybe halla milk. Is that a thing?

In my mind, Solas would love hot chocolate. It's basically the opposite of tea. And he does have a sweet tooth.

[dragondreamer]

I think my Lavellan could still be surprised.  Thedas is a huge and magical world.  There's always something weird that can crop up.

 

Well, to be very serious, I think learning the truth about Solas would be a shock.  But she knows him as Solas, and she doesn't consider the Dalish stories to be accurate anymore.  It might be easier to adjust to because she knows and cares about him.

 

I'm definitely going to make my Lavellan freak out when/if she finds out the truth, after being romantically involved with him and all.  She isn't as cool and collected as a lot of other Lavellans apparently, lol.  I always pick the "freak out"/emotional responses.

 

Yeah, my Lavellan isn't really the type for big reactions, but it would still be....interesting.

[Eivuwan]

It's possible the Black City is actually Arlathan (Whoa, I spelt that right) the elves capital that was "sunk" by the Tevinters. 

 

Wow, so Arlathan is like Atlantis. Surprised it took me so long to make the connection

[Kath]

It seems like choice is fun, but lack of choice gives more feels (even though sometimes it's more like frustrated feels).

 

Agreed. And I am not upset by the ending of DA:I in this regard, sometimes you need a lack of choice to present plot devices and such. (Delicious feels.)

But when it comes to the final outcome, when the Inquisitor's story is over, wouldn't mind some multiple-outcome epilogue sliders. Or at least something I can work a happy headcanon out of, haha.

[zambixi]

I'd actually be fine with them having little more than a spring-time romance in terms of his life span. Feels a bit more poignant to me that they're willing to go through with it in spite of her mortality or his immortality. Though I do hope there's an option either way, so people can choose what best fits them.

 

I hope there's an option. I feel like if their mortality doesn't match up it leaves the weird power dynamic in play. I can't really articulate it, but that sort of romance makes me feel like Lavellan is lesser. It's not really a sacrifice for her because she gets to live her life with him. He's the one that's going to be hurt watching her age and die. It makes me a bit uncomfortable.

 

Hmm, I wonder if Bioware would consider fan desire for a happy ending or stick to their story direction no matter what. These days in Chinese drama they sometimes let the audience vote on whether they want a happy or sad ending. Seems a bit too much, but then I think I ultimately want a happy ending.

 

BW listens to their fan base, but I don't think they're going to change anything dramatically because a) the fan base has more varied opinions than what's on this thread (we're biased) and they have to stick to their vision and tell an engaging story. I find a lot of comfort in the fact that Weekes is playing through the Solavellan arc. I mean, I know he wrote it, but I feel like seeing it play out with a character you create is different and more personal. Plus he went out of his way to say that he felt for them when writing the arc. So I don't think he's going to make a decision either way lightly. He seems pretty connected to the feels.

 

 

Ohh I want this conversation

 

Solas: Now that you know who I am and what I plan to do, you understand why we can never be together.

 

Lavellan: Banal nadas Solas

 

Then she grabs him and gives him a passionate kiss. Cue epic music.

[Sine_Amore]

It seems like choice is fun, but lack of choice gives more feels (even though sometimes it's more like frustrated feels).

I don't know. If there is one thing I especially hate in RPGs it is the illusion of choice. "Sure, you can romance this guy... buuuuut we already have the ending decided." It definitely gives more feels, but not the good kind. I love the satisfaction of seeing my choices play out WAY more than when the choice is made for me, even if the outcome is horrendous.

[LapCat]

I just finished the game tonight (I'm a completionist) and I just can't stop thinking about it. Everything was so well written and I didn't guess a damn thing which was awesome. But damn, Solas' romance just left me distraught.

 

Narratively, I loved the ending. I truly think the next game is going to be with the Inquisitor protagonist ala Mass Effect. There was just enough of an opening, like the Inquisitor's quest wasn't finished and Morrigan's comments at the end about them being ready for anything just seemed to hint at that being the plan. The whole world just changed, it seems strange to build this power base then suddenly "bam, new protagonist." But, I was clearly wrong before. However, it does give me hope that Levellan will finally have that explaination she wanted.

 

I'm not sure what the consensus is on how much can be discussed openly without the spoiler tags...

[Birdy]

Hi I'm new to the forums.  I wrote my first fan fiction this week.  Not sure if it's any good though.  Nobody really commented.  I'm just going to leave this here....

 

http://archiveofouro...hapters/6173777

I'd totally love to take a look, once the internet will let me visit A03.   

[kalasaurus]

RE: Happy Ending with Solas

 

I honestly wouldn't mind either way, I love both tragedy and fluff, but the most satisfying ending for me would be one of MY CHOICE. 

Like, I could make choices in the game that dictate whether I get the good/happy ending, the well sh-t/tragic ending, or maybe a bit of both. Multiple outcomes sort of deal, makes everyone happy. 

When you are given an outcome you have no say in (especially a tragic one in these sort of games) a lot of the times it gives you that feeling of "What's the point?" Which I would really like to avoid. Icky feeling. 

 

Agreed, if he was made a romance and inevitably becomes someone we have to kill because he's now evil!Solas... then, that's kind of a messed up story.  I mean, I guess props to Bioware for trying a new angle on the romance path, but still.  It would definitely make me also wonder what the point was of his romance, besides giving our Lavellans some major trust issues O.o

 

That said, I'd be OK with a tragic ending as long as it's bittersweet.  There has to be some equal parts bitter and sweet in there.  Make me cry happy/sad tears at the same time, and I'll be sold.

[scintilla]

Indeed. Whatever mistakes the man has made, he deserves some real and (somewhat) lasting happiness. Gah, I just don't want BW to break my--I mean, Lavellan's heart again. ;<.<

 

Or Solas'. Especially Solas'.

 

Yeah, I don't care if things end poorly for my Lavellan (so long as her tragedy is well written) but I really don't want things to get worse for Solas.

 

RE: Happy Ending with Solas

 

I honestly wouldn't mind either way, I love both tragedy and fluff, but the most satisfying ending for me would be one of MY CHOICE. 

Like, I could make choices in the game that dictate whether I get the good/happy ending, the well sh-t/tragic ending, or maybe a bit of both. Multiple outcomes sort of deal, makes everyone happy. 

When you are given an outcome you have no say in (especially a tragic one in these sort of games) a lot of the times it gives you that feeling of "What's the point?" Which I would really like to avoid. Icky feeling. 

 

I think a lot of people feel that way about choice. I'm not sure DLC will give many options for that kind of ending and if Solas's story isn't concluded until DA4 (or maybe even after that?), it's hard to say if there would even be a choice.

 

There's a difference between being introduced to someone and finding out in the introduction that they're an elven god (though I think Lavellan should have been a bit more shocked by that), and discovering that someone you fought with, traveled with, and potentially slept with is not only a god but the god you're supposed to not engage. Oops.

 

I should have put a smiley after that. I meant it to be a joke. 

[Birdy]

I just finished the game tonight (I'm a completionist) and I just can't stop thinking about it. Everything was so well written and I didn't guess a damn thing which was awesome. But damn, Solas' romance just left me distraught.

 

Narratively, I loved the ending. I truly think the next game is going to be with the Inquisitor protagonist ala Mass Effect. There was just enough of an opening, like the Inquisitor's quest wasn't finished and Morrigan's comments at the end about them being ready for anything just seemed to hint at that being the plan. The whole world just changed, it seems strange to build this power base then suddenly "bam, new protagonist." But, I was clearly wrong before. However, it does give me hope that Levellan will finally have that explaination she wanted.

 

I'm not sure what the consensus is on how much can be discussed openly without the spoiler tags...

Welcome to the Solas Recover Wing

We don't really use Spoiler tags much anymore.    

 

*Insert hug gif here, if it would let me  *

[Eivuwan]

I don't know. If there is one thing I especially hate in RPGs it is the illusion of choice. "Sure, you can romance this guy... buuuuut we already have the ending decided." It definitely gives more feels, but not the good kind. I love the satisfaction of seeing my choices play out WAY more than when the choice is made for me, even if the outcome is horrendous.

 

I think a good mixture of choice and no choice is good. No choice for plot relevance and feels and choice because otherwise it's not an rpg. We already had the no choice of Solas leaving. Let us have the choice of how to deal with it.

[madrar]

So who here is hoping for a bittersweet/tragic ending to the Solas story and who is hoping for a happy ending above all else? I want to get an idea of the percentage.

 

I'm begging for a happy ending for Solas- it doesn't even have to include Lavellan.  Just one where he either manages to forgive himself, or in which he's satisfied that his sacrifice meant something and was worthwhile.  

 

That said, I'd set the chance at 0%.

 

Between the lines, Solas is pretty much the most tragic character Bioware has crafted to date.  He kills me.

[Birdy]

Wow, so Arlathan is like Atlantis. Surprised it took me so long to make the connection

Ha, Only Atlantis only sunk under the water, Arlathan was put in the Fade. Though maybe that's when the Veil came down, and Arlathan got trapped on the otherside.

[Eivuwan]

I just finished the game tonight (I'm a completionist) and I just can't stop thinking about it. Everything was so well written and I didn't guess a damn thing which was awesome. But damn, Solas' romance just left me distraught.

 

Narratively, I loved the ending. I truly think the next game is going to be with the Inquisitor protagonist ala Mass Effect. There was just enough of an opening, like the Inquisitor's quest wasn't finished and Morrigan's comments at the end about them being ready for anything just seemed to hint at that being the plan. The whole world just changed, it seems strange to build this power base then suddenly "bam, new protagonist." But, I was clearly wrong before. However, it does give me hope that Levellan will finally have that explaination she wanted.

 

I'm not sure what the consensus is on how much can be discussed openly without the spoiler tags...

 

I am hoping they would make an expansion instead because I don't want to wait 4 years or longer for DA4

[Birdy]

I am hoping they would make an expansion instead because I don't want to wait 4 years or longer for DA4

If not an expansion, I'm totally willing to wait for DAI part 2, which without an expansion, really seems the only way to continue the story. A DLC just isn't enough content.

[Jaderail]

Who don't want a happy ending…but have to be realistic, for a character like Solas I just don't see BW will give a happy ending easily. But still I hope they will invest more time on it. Solas/Lavellan has the potential to develop into something worth noticing in BW's game history.

 

I agree, but BW has at least, in some cases, given us the option of a happy ending through choices we make through the game. In Origins you could marry Alistair and become his queen, or his mistress. Or, you could just have broken it off from there. I'm not saying I expect that level of choice in the future, but it would be nice.

[SamanthaJ]

He walked the Golden City? I thought Corypheus said it was already black? Am I mishearing/mis-remembering?

 

Bye Solas...

[zambixi]

Who don't want a happy ending…but have to be realistic, for a character like Solas I just don't see BW will give a happy ending easily. But still I hope they will invest more time on it. Solas/Lavellan has the potential to develop into something worth noticing in BW's game history.

 

I could see this becoming something that people talk about in a positive way for years if done correctly. I think I finally figured out why FFX ending works well for me too. The tragedy isn't that they can't be together by itself, it's that up until that very last moment they are so in love and so happy. Right now Solavellan aren't together and aren't happy. If they continue being unhappy and separate and then we get to the end of the arc and they're still unhappy and separate it won't be satisfying. It needs to go somewhere from here, not just to greater levels of depression (for me, personally. Other people may feel differently). Tragedy works best when you believe that it will work out until the very moment it doesn't. Also, entertainment media is filled with stories about how Things Just Don't Work Out these days. I want a Neo-Romantic movement please!

 

It seems like choice is fun, but lack of choice gives more feels (even though sometimes it's more like frustrated feels).

 

This:

 

I don't know. If there is one thing I especially hate in RPGs it is the illusion of choice. "Sure, you can romance this guy... buuuuut we already have the ending decided." It definitely gives more feels, but not the good kind. I love the satisfaction of seeing my choices play out WAY more than when the choice is made for me, even if the outcome is horrendous.

 

It would make the romance seem so hollow to me. I think they handled Blackwell's romance very well in this regard. I'd love if we get the same sort of flexibility with Solas.

[Birdy]

He walked the Golden City? I thought Corypheus said it was already black? Am I mishearing/mis-remembering?

 

Bye Solas...

Cory did say it was Black, but who knows what the blight has done to his mind and memories. The Architect was obviously a magister and he had little memory of his life before.