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I ultimately decided on this style for my new Solas waifu Lavellan.  She's a rogue archer, and her appearance is loosely inspired by Jack from Mass Effect.

 

*beautiful elf babe*


Omg she's soo cool! Which preset did you use? :)
 

 

So I finally finished my first PT and Solas romance.....

 

I need that DLC. Like right now. 


You're not alone *hugs*


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I used the second preset, and the second-to-last face shape on her :)


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On the dwarf topic...

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She's a child of stone, too. I met her in Emprise du Lion, she was staring at red lyrium like that.


Sorry but this was hilarious
 

 

I used the second preset, and the second-to-last face shape on her :)

 

Thanks! ^_^
 


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On the dwarf topic...

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She's a child of stone, too. I met her in Emprise du Lion, she was staring at red lyrium like that.


Sorry but this was hilarious

 

There is nothing creepier in DAI. I was mystified the first time I saw her in my game.


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That's the whole charm of it,Solas is Fen'harel and he's nothing like the Dalish legends present him.
Not a trickster,although he's undoubtedly Cunning and witty.
Not a traitor but a wise,intelligent individual who probably rebelled to a system that was cruel to its subjects,because he wanted to improve things for them and the rest of the world.Heck even for the rest of the creators who would probably slaughter each other mercilessly,if it meant they got more power.
This why the revelation made him even more interesting to me,although I already took an interest in him before the game launched,and afterwards that interest turned into appreciation through the discussions he has with the inquisitor.
He's the type of character that makes you rethink,either when it comes to your inquisitors views about the setting or your own.

 

What I meant to say (but didn't actually write) was that I'm more interested in who Solas is rather than who fans think Fen'Harel is.  It's very likely that the Dalish legends about him are completely wrong, and mythologies are often twisted to suit the culture their adapted to (look at Disney's version of the Heracles story where Hades becomes a more Devil-like figure, or The Mummy where Anubis is an evil god rather than a god of the dead).


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I was going to spend the day with laundry and my Mage Trev finishing crestwood but I got a sleeping nephew in my arms and prancer on tv so I think I just am gonna sit tight and read everyone's excellent theories. Love them!
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BLESS THIS POST. You should totally post it in the dwarf thread. :ph34r: Just sayin'.

I wonder, then, if the dwarves allying with Tevinter had anything to do with the final fall of Arlathan? I mean, we know now Arlathan mostly succumbed to itself, but the details are a bit fuzzy. Perhaps the dwarves were "punished" by taking away their magic? Err... these are just thoughts. No idea what I'm saying, really. But I do think it would be interesting if the Provings were a response to suddenly having no magic...

 

The more I think about it, the more I think the dwarves have always been different. I suspect that there's more to their relationship with lyrium, but that perhaps they were never mages in the proper sense. Without the Veil they would not have been disconnected from the Fade like they are now right? Unless the Stone protected them from it (maybe that's why there's such an ingrained aversion to the surface). They seem to be supernatural; they are very resistant to disease and sickness aside from the Blight and unable to wield magic.

 

Hm...it doesn't seem like their society suffered from violent change the way that Elvhenan did. Whether that's because dwarves didn't have the political problems that elves did, or because their relationship with magic was never quite as strong as the elves' and thus a change in that relationship was not as traumatic...we don't really have enough information to draw a definite conclusion about that, but their fall seems to be more tied to the blight than to whatever impacted the elves.

 

I do think they're different from what they are originally though. The alliance with Tevinter was probably a way to secure a foothold in the changing world, or access magic? (I forgot to put the date in there for when a Proving Ground is constructed in Minrathous: -1200 Ancient) It seems like Tevinter culture and Dwarven culture was pretty intertwined for two nations that no longer talk to one another.

 

Re: relationship to elves in general:

 

Their language seems different from elven too. We don't really get to see it in action, but I pulled this from World of Thedas: amgarrak (victory), amgeforn (sacrifice), amgetoll (duty), isana (lyrium), kallak (war), salroka (friend "one at my side"), wim and wam (whine and plead). Very un-elven sounding words.


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There is nothing creepier in DAI. I was mystified the first time I saw her in my game.

Yeah, I assumed that was a bug.  A freaky, stand-the-hairs-on-the-back-of-your-neck-up bug.

 

*shivers*



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Isn't there some creepy lady in the hissing wastes? I've never even made it to that area. Or the emprise du lion either actually

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I apologize for the interruption.

 

This is my favorite thread that has ever happened, and instead of originally planned programming, I present you with something I just found on the magnificent website that is Tumblr.

 

I'm sorry that this is not Solas related but it is making me laugh so hard I am crying.

 

Carry on, Wolfpack!


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I do wonder how much time passed between Solas awakening and the game start? Corypheus says that the Inquisitor "interrupted a ritual years in the planning" when we first meet him. Did he start planning after he obtained the orb? Before? Was Solas any part of it?



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I'm making a new Lavellan for Solas (again... I have way too much fun with the CC).  Which hairstyle do you think is better for this face?

 

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or

 

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(And I'm sorry if it seems like I'm spamming the thread with random stuff.  This is just my favorite DA: I thread!)

They both look so good! You probably already chose, but if I were a rogue, I'd definitely want those badass shaved sides.


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Isn't there some creepy lady in the hissing wastes? I've never even made it to that area. Or the emprise du lion either actually

 

I think there's a random Chanter who roves around the Hissing Wastes.  Even Cole was a bit freaked out by her.



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I do wonder how much time passed between Solas awakening and the game start? Corypheus says that the Inquisitor "interrupted a ritual years in the planning" when we first meet him. Did he start planning after he obtained the orb? Before? Was Solas any part of it?

 

I think since Legacy is intended to be played in early Act II that's when it took place in terms of the official timeline (since the Keep doesn't let you pick when Legacy was played.)  I'm guessing Solas woke up at some point after that, so it's likely been a few years.



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I think there's a random Chanter who roves around the Hissing Wastes.  Even Cole was a bit freaked out by her.

 

The random Chanter gives you a weapon and disappears, after saying something about the darkness and the light. Solas's response to this was, "Ah, I see." Some sort of spirit maybe?

 

I do wonder how much time passed between Solas awakening and the game start? Corypheus says that the Inquisitor "interrupted a ritual years in the planning" when we first meet him. Did he start planning after he obtained the orb? Before? Was Solas any part of it?

 

He doesn't recognize Solas, so I think the prevailing theory is that Solas didn't personally hand him the orb. Solas will also say he didn't think Corypheus could use the orb to it's full extent, which suggests he didn't offer any guidance.

 

It's possible Solas has been awake for a few years. Long enough to try approaching the Dalish and to form very firm opinions on the state of the world, at least.

 

Yeah, I assumed that was a bug.  A freaky, stand-the-hairs-on-the-back-of-your-neck-up bug.

 

*shivers*

 

 

I mean. It probably is a bug. Unless we're meant to assume she cut off someone's face and is wearing it and no one says anything about this (although, would you really want to bring it up with someone who cut someone's face off?). But she seems to show up in a lot of people's game that way.



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This made the ending so funny to me. It's like my Lavellan is going, "thank god that loser is finally gone." She wasn't even bothered. I was giggling through a significant part of the epilogue.

It's kind of poor writing though, yeah. His disappearance should have had more acknowledgment than it did.


Dont forget smiling at the balcony. I am like wth is going on :/
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One last thing before work, because some of the Solas/Sera antagonism is being used to support his characterisation as prideful, arrogant, or even "racist":

 

What drives him insane about Sara is not the fact that she's not "elfy" enough.   It's that she's so willfully resistant to having her worldview challenged.  Her temperament is the precise opposite of all that he hopes for from his People: the openness, the curiousity, the desire to understand.   Instead, because of her particular background, every time she's faced with anything that might plant a seed of doubt in her mind, she (metaphorically) plugs her ears and sings as loudly as she can.  

 

He makes her head hurt.  She rejects him over and over, and he still doesn't give up trying to reach her.   

 

This is the Solas we know.  Stubbornly clinging to a threadbare hope that there's something salvageable in the epic mess he's created.  He is broken.  He is tired.  But still, he will not give up without a fight.   Give the guy credit where it's due.


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I do wonder how much time passed between Solas awakening and the game start? Corypheus says that the Inquisitor "interrupted a ritual years in the planning" when we first meet him. Did he start planning after he obtained the orb? Before? Was Solas any part of it?

He got away, spent some years as mage warden Larius, got contacted by Bianca (she is such a ******)  found red lyrium, made it work for his purposes, got wardens freaked out with the calling, got templars and samnson to join him.. a lot of years before that explosion.

 

From what I read, Solas was asleep in Uthenera and the orb was taken (stolen) from him by Cory. He blames himself because he was careless but I don't think he gave it willingly, more like he left it lying around in the place he was sleeping thinking no one would find it and if they did no one would know how to use it.



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One last thing before work, because some of the Solas/Sera antagonism is being used to support his characterisation as still prideful, arrogant, or even "racist":

 

What drives him insane about Sara is not the fact that she's not "elfy" enough.   It's that she's so willfully resistant to having her worldview challenged.  Her temperament is the precise opposite of all that he hopes for from his People: the openness, the curiousity, the desire to understand.   Instead, because of her particular background, every time she's faced with anything that might plant a seed of doubt in her mind, she metaphorically plugs her ears and sings as loudly as she can.  

 

He makes her head hurt.  She rejects him over and over, and he still doesn't give up trying to reach her.   

 

This is the Solas we know.  Stubbornly clinging to a threadbare hope that there's something salvageable in the epic mess he's created.  He is broken.  He is tired.  But still, he will not give up without a fight.   Give the guy credit where it's due.

 

Do you admit to Solas having any flaws? This is an honest question. I'm not sure how to approach answering this if you don't want him to be wrong in any way.



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Now that i have completed the game, finally, and no longer fear spoilers, I'd like to ask.

 

What is the general fan reaction to the big Solas reveal?

 

Personally, i found it fascinating. More-so than any character, Solas shocked me with a level of quality I haven't seen in a while. Further, while I imagine many might dislike the truth, I feel it further cements him as one of the best characters Bioware has ever made.


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I apologize for the interruption.

 

This is my favorite thread that has ever happened, and instead of originally planned programming, I present you with something I just found on the magnificent website that is Tumblr.

 

I'm sorry that this is not Solas related but it is making me laugh so hard I am crying.

 

Carry on, Wolfpack!

Hahahahahaaha T_T.  And yup, knew what song it was gonna be.  Oh man that was great.



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One last thing before work, because some of the Solas/Sera antagonism is being used to support his characterisation as prideful, arrogant, or even "racist":

 

What drives him insane about Sara is not the fact that she's not "elfy" enough.   It's that she's so willfully resistant to having her worldview challenged.  Her temperament is the precise opposite of all that he hopes for from his People: the openness, the curiousity, the desire to understand.   Instead, because of her particular background, every time she's faced with anything that might plant a seed of doubt in her mind, she (metaphorically) plugs her ears and sings as loudly as she can.  

 

He makes her head hurt.  She rejects him over and over, and he still doesn't give up trying to reach her.   

 

This is the Solas we know.  Stubbornly clinging to a threadbare hope that there's something salvageable in the epic mess he's created.  He is broken.  He is tired.  But still, he will not give up without a fight.   Give the guy credit where it's due.

Those who call Solas racist for disliking Sear don't know she calls a transwoman 

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and worse. SHE is the bigoted ******* , not Solas



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Now that i have completed the game, finally, and no longer fear spoilers, I'd like to ask.
 
What is the general fan reaction to the big Solas reveal?
 
Personally, i found it fascinating. More-so than any character, Solas shocked me with a level of quality I haven't seen in a while. Further, while I imagine many might dislike the truth, I feel it further cements him as one of the best characters Bioware has ever made.


It had me sitting there with my jaw on the floor, and it totally made up for the ending cutscenes I got(mine bugged and it was just my Inquisitor awkwardly listening to and responding to nothing, none of the other characters showed up, I didn't know there was a party until the end of my second playthrough >.>).

Theeeen I pretty much immediately turned around and started up a game to romance him, after trying to resist and building a few characters beforehand that only got an hour or two into the game.
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Now that i have completed the game, finally, and no longer fear spoilers, I'd like to ask.

 

What is the general fan reaction to the big Solas reveal?

 

Personally, i found it fascinating. More-so than any character, Solas shocked me with a level of quality I haven't seen in a while. Further, while I imagine many might dislike the truth, I feel it further cements him as one of the best characters Bioware has ever made.

I'm so glad you said that Theo!  It's mixed but most seem to like him, according the poll over in Scuttlebutt he's the 4th favourite companion, and when it comes to the best romance poll...well he's totally won that with a landslide, makes me feel all fuzzy.



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There is a lot of confusion it seems though, people tend to immediately think "Oh next big bad!" but I don't think there's a great deal of thought behind that.