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[jellobell]

I waffle back and forth on whether they slept together, but I like to think they did after the Halamshiral ball. For Solas, watching his Vhenan outmaneuver the best players of the Game in Orlais (he super-approves if you manage to reunite Celene and Briala and get enough court approval to have Florianne executed) must've been intoxicating.

[The Oracle]

Ah, thanks for this. I think I'm still going to go for the "Close but not fully intimate" headcanon for my Quizzy. I just think that if they were sleeping together (and not in the snooze sense) then I'm not sure what would make him pause and then break up with Quizzy in the final cutscene. It always looked to me like their final kiss was what nearly threw him off the deep end and he would have taken her there and then  if not for the realisation that there would be no leaving her. If he was already that deep in, removing her tattoo seems pretty trivial in my mind, though I totally respect other peoples headcanon of them taking it further. I mean, geez, it's a very VERY nice thought afterall.

[phaonica]

I think that's on purpose.  The Dalish tried hard to preserve the language but not all of it was saved.  What they were able to preserve; common names/phrases  - they've peppered in.   What's interesting with Solas is that he actually speaks in sentences of full elvish fairly often which is abnormal.  I think the point was - after the big  reveal - the player was supposed to go "Ohhhh".  Or something.

 

Ah, is their language not complete? They haven't created something new over time? I'm surprised.

[SS7]

Mostly, I have trouble justifying him letting things go that far physically. I mean, consequences much. 'Course, there might be some magical birth control I missed in a codex entry or a conversation somewhere. Otherwise, I'm not sure what they'd have been able to get their hands on in the moments it would've been possible for them to consummate. But then again, I'm all pragmatic and what not.

[Abelas]

So I typed Solas as an INTJ, and was reading their problem areas and:

 

• May be unaware (and sometimes uncaring) of how they come across to others
• May quickly dismiss input from others without really considering it
• May apply their judgment more often towards others, rather than towards themselves
• With their ability to see an issue from many sides, they may always find others at fault for problems in their own lives
• May look at external ideas and people with the primary purpose of finding fault
• May take pride in their ability to be critical and find fault in people and things
• May have unrealistic and/or unreasonable expectations of others
• May be intolerant of weaknesses in others
• May believe that they're always right
• May be cuttingly derisive and sarcastic towards others
• May have an intense and quick temper
• May see so many tangents everywhere that they can't stay focused on the bottom line or the big picture

 

Well, then. 

[scintilla]

Ah, is their language not complete? They haven't created something new over time? I'm surprised.

 

One of the Dalish's primary traits is a focus on the past. They don't do a whole lot of creating new things, at least not intentionally.

 

Mostly, I have trouble justifying him letting things go that far physically. I mean, consequences much. 'Course, there might be some magical birth control I missed in a codex entry or a conversation somewhere. Otherwise, I'm not sure what they'd have been able to get their hands on in the moments it would've been possible for them to consummate. But then again, I'm all pragmatic and what not.

 

Could grow Witherstalk in the garden. 

 

http://dragonage.wik...ry:_Witherstalk

[dragondreamer]

For my part though I just can't. Dude, if they had slept together there's no way Solas could have left. I just think if he let it go that far, he would have been done. Couldn't leave. Note this is coming from a huge romantic who married her high school sweet heart. We also were together 10 years before getting married. I know the slow dance, so yea, love means something to me. If I think they slept together it makes Solas's leaving so much more mean. I would definitely have to choose the angry options at the breakup, instead of the "I love you" ones, if that were the case.

 

I will say I love how BW really made this one completely ambiguous. You really can headcanon and play it however you like, which is masterful imo.

 

I like to think his feelings for Lavellan would have been the same with or without sex being involved.  Leaving would be difficult either way.  I do appreciate that it was left to headcanon as much as it was.

[Uirebhiril]

For my part though I just can't. Dude, if they had slept together there's no way Solas could have left. I just think if he let it go that far, he would have been done. Couldn't leave. Note this is coming from a huge romantic who married her high school sweet heart. We also were together 10 years before getting married. I know the slow dance, so yea, love means something to me. If I think they slept together it makes Solas's leaving so much more mean. I would definitely have to choose the angry options at the breakup, instead of the "I love you" ones, if that were the case.

 

 

I see it sort of differently. Getting into bed is exactly as he says it - an enjoyable side benefit. Something two willing adults can engage in, but it doesn't define them or their relationship because the relationship itself is separate from that. He's already given himself up to it as much as he can at that point in time. Compared to the emotional intensity, the sexual aspect is minor, almost meaningless and hardly something that would make a difference when it comes to staying or leaving. I can't believe it's the being naked part that would make it impossible for him to leave. It just doesn't seem to fit right in my head.

[SS7]

One of the Dalish's primary traits is a focus on the past. They don't do a whole lot of creating new things, at least not intentionally.

 

 

Could grow Witherstalk in the garden. 

 

http://dragonage.wik...ry:_Witherstalk

 

Haha, alright then! Rewind headcanon!

Naw. I'm keeping 'em pure.  
I imagine their conversations akin to getting frisky. They might've meant to, but instead got carried away in some such long winded yammering. 

[Sable Rhapsody]

I need to actually better lay out my thoughts on the comparison between both, but I agree that he's a lot different from Anders. No matter even the consequences he seems to realize might be needed for change... Solas lacks Ander's sadism. I'm actually a big fan of Anders, but his anger could corrupt a lot in him. Solas has matured from that, if he ever was even close to Anders in the first place. I remember how awful Ander's hypocrisy was regarding Fenris, and how much he was blind to all other kinds of opression except the one he was involved in, and the hatred for the people in the opressed group who did not agree with him. I think it was well written (I mean, not always, I had my gripes here and there), because it does happen in people like him (read: incendiary, rebels, etc), and people like him are often needed. But I'm glad this is something Solas lacks.

 

Ah, I'm bad at explaining 

 

To clarify, I don't think Solas and Anders are particularly similar as characters.  I meant that they have the same emotional impact on me as a player--I love them both, and at the same time I really want to punch some sense into them.  That's about where the similarities end.

 

In general I tend to like characters who inspire emotional extremes as a player.  But two characters can have the same effect on me, and be very different characters in execution.

[_Lucinia]

I see it sort of differently. Getting into bed is exactly as he says it - an enjoyable side benefit. Something two willing adults can engage in, but it doesn't define them or their relationship because the relationship itself is separate from that. He's already given himself up to it as much as he can at that point in time. Compared to the emotional intensity, the sexual aspect is minor, almost meaningless and hardly something that would make a difference when it comes to staying or leaving. I can't believe it's the being naked part that would make it impossible for him to leave. It just doesn't seem to fit right in my head.

I agree.  But I see both sides of it too.  I can't make my mind up if they did or not.  I am leaning more towards they did, just because of their body language in that final scene.  Then I also think he pulled back because he maybe senses that consummating the relationship is a bigger deal for her than it is for him.  *sigh* I dunno.  

Ok no more waffling, I am gonna say that, for me, they did.  The intensity of their feelings for each other is way deeper and more significant than what getting physical would be.  That's my head cannon.  I made a decision and now I am gonna stick with it, lol!  

[RebbyWriter]

Patrick had this to say retweeting this link http://kotaku.com/dr...ined-1671137779

Patrick Weekes ‏@PatrickWeekes

Re RT: Great to see fascinating theories from what we've out out there. No comment on what's warmer or colder.

 

 

You just love this, don't you? WEEEEEEKESSS!

[Abelas]

Ah, I'm bad at explaining 

 

To clarify, I don't think Solas and Anders are particularly similar as characters.  I meant that they have the same emotional impact on me as a player--I love them both, and at the same time I really want to punch some sense into them.  That's about where the similarities end.

 

In general I tend to like characters who inspire emotional extremes as a player.  But two characters can have the same effect on me, and be very different characters in execution.

 

Don't worry, I got what you meant. I was just adding my two cents after what jellobell said. Anders was a favorite of mine in DA2, one that... was hard to have without repercussions online so I completely get you in terms of emotional impact. I do like Solas a lot more as a person, though. As a character too, but then again he has climbed so high in the favorite lists it may be unfair to even draw comparisons anymore. 

[Uirebhiril]

I waffle back and forth on whether they slept together, but I like to think they did after the Halamshiral ball. For Solas, watching his Vhenan outmaneuver the best players of the Game in Orlais (he super-approves if you manage to reunite Celene and Briala and get enough court approval to have Florianne executed) must've been intoxicating.

 

This has been my exact feeling on the matter since I finished the romance. Teasing, flirting, even shared dreams up to that point... and then the unbridled release of being drunk in the moment making it one heck of a night for them after they dance. It just seems like the right time and place for that intimacy to come up, for all the reasons that you stated.

 

I've seen some people say they hated the ball. I loved it.

[Abelas]

Patrick had this to say retweeting this link http://kotaku.com/dr...ined-1671137779

 

You just love this, don't you? WEEEEEEKESSS!

 

So that means someone out there was warm. 

 

Yes, Weekes. We can work with that. 

[sunhair]

Patrick had this to say retweeting this link http://kotaku.com/dr...ined-1671137779

 

You just love this, don't you? WEEEEEEKESSS!

Patrick Weekes  Why you have to be so cruel 

[Sable Rhapsody]

I've seen some people say they hated the ball. I loved it.

 

I found elements of the ball frustrating--buggy sidequests, weird issue with Briala disappearing through the floor, etc.  But I still loved it.  Probably one of my favorite parts of DA:I.

 

My generally sweet, gentle Lavellan loved the Ball, to my surprise.  She played the Game like a boss, and I think she really liked being able to stick it to the Orlesians who look down on and fetishize her people.  Solas greatly approves 

[Aetheria]

Patrick Weekes Why you have to be so cruel 

Don't you know we're human toooo...

 

Oh wait, I guess in-game we're not. Never mind

[RebbyWriter]

Spoiler

http://dragonageconf...th-this-new-guy

 

 

Solas, you liferuiner.

[_Lucinia]

Don't you know we're human toooo...

 

Oh wait, I guess in-game we're not. Never mind

Ok so I'm not the only one that had that song stuck in their head.  Haha good to know!

[sunhair]

Don't you know we're human toooo...

 

Oh wait, I guess in-game we're not. Never mind

lol I'm glad someone caught the song ref 

[Eivuwan]

Spoiler

http://dragonageconf...th-this-new-guy

 

 

Solas, you liferuiner.

 

Lol, I hope that's just a joke because if it's true, that would really suck. What real life man can match up to Solas?

[Dr. Doctor]

So, if you drink from the Well of Sorrows and tell Solas that you intend to use its power to make he world a better place, he asks what that would entail. If you respond that you'll figure it out as you go he comments that knowing that someone else is willing to keep trying to make the world despite any failues than maybe there is still hope.

I get the impression that Solas still wants to help his people, but his past failures have painted him as a villain among those he wants to help. Also I get the impression that he was Shartan:

“It was my dream for the people to have a home of their own, where we would have no masters but ourselves. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, and thus we followed Andraste, against the Imperium. But she was betrayed, and so were we.”

[Sable Rhapsody]

What real life man can match up to Solas?

 

Nicholas Cage? 

 

 

 

...I'm sorry I'll go now.

[arelenriel]

Ah, is their language not complete? They haven't created something new over time? I'm surprised.

I think they kind of gave up on creating anything new after the Dales were taken from them by the Chantry and Orlais after they refused to help fight the Second Blight other than a few Grey Warden conscripts. The Dalish refuse to create anything permanent and the City Elves have assimilated into the dominant cultures where they live with the exception of the vhenandahl tree and the position of Hahren including accepting the languages of the nations they live in and the Andrastean faith .. They may have added new words to the language during the times of the Dales but nothing after that