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I definitely think there's some truth to it. Solas was apart of the pantheon. If he was just a humble elf practicing magic, he wouldn't have caught the eye of the people or been a point of worship. I could see the Solas of the past being something of a villain. He probably used his intelligence and magic to mess around with the people. The way he fondly talks about tricksters in mythology makes me think some part of him probably did enjoy getting the better of people.

 

The breaking point was that the other elven gods went so far that Fen'Harel realized he was the only sane one left. Which must have been terrifying. 

 

Yes! The way he asks Varric about tricksters and actually was entertained by Orlesian intrigue. What awesome character details. That trickster is still there.



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Mortarion

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Hey anyone here knows what are Solas's comments if you ally or conscript the templars?



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Looking at the handy Tumblr chart, it's probably Dirthamen's then. They both have... trees. <_<  The CC really needs to come with a handy dandy notation for whose tattoos are whose and what they mean. It's a character decision choice and left as it is feels more like oooooh pretty/shiny.


There's a chart? Ooh could you link it? Haven't seen that. :)

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Whennnn are weee goinnggg to hearr about a dlccc????


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I mean, he did seem to name himself "Pride" so he knows he has some kind of problem. Like I said, I haven't finished the romance story yet, so I wonder if "pride" is something he's over or something he still suffers.

 

Yeah I think he changed a lot throughout the game.  He seemed resolute in his plan for the future at the beginning but the Inquisitor, her companions, and his experiences throughout the story helped open his eyes to new possibilities.  I'm excited to find out what direction he takes :)  And nervous, definitely nervous :P



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Hey anyone here knows what are Solas's comments if you ally or conscript the templars?

 

He's not happy but if you make the right argument I remember you can get approval off him (I did on my first playthrough) and if you do a bunch of stuff in the Hinterlands helping refugees to net approval you can negate his "Greatly Disapproves" hit when you ally with them and still get his personal quest early at Skyhold. ;)

 

You may want to go to talk to the Mages first just so you can recruit that Tranquil for Cullen, but so long as you don't go to the Chantry you're not committed to the quest.

 

He's anti-establishment. He gets upset. If you conscript the Templars, he's happy though.



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Whennnn are weee goinnggg to hearr about a dlccc????

I feel you.  I hope it's an expansion. Or unified DLCs - like the Half-Life 2 episodes WERE SUPPOSED TO BE(sob).  I'm optimistic it will be those instead of a brand new game since BW has the assets already done.  They just need to add content. Also, I kind of like how the stories are self-contained in these games.  The universe expands based on the major events of the game/add-ons but it's not one long story.



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There's a chart? Ooh could you link it? Haven't seen that. :)

 

For your vallaslin needs: http://www.glitterdu...vallaslin-lore/

Tumblr version: http://posts.glitter...ost/11438706436

 

Artwork showcasing vallaslin by hyperbali: (http://hyperbali.tum...ost/90224410100)

 

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Take note these are based on DA:O's vallaslin. ;)


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Hey anyone here knows what are Solas's comments if you ally or conscript the templars?

 

Solas actually Greatly Approves if you conscript the templars.  He says that he tries to understand them even if he doesn't like them, and sees their uses.


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There's a chart? Ooh could you link it? Haven't seen that. :)

 

I don't have the link anymore but I downloaded the chart. I didn't make either of these.

 

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Heh, you guys are picking vallaslin based on their meanings.

 

I just went, "Oooh, those look badass."


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Heh, you guys are picking vallaslin based on their meanings.

 

I just went, "Oooh, those look badass."

 

Same. I just pick whatever looks pretty and then look up their meanings afterward. xD


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I want my halla markings back. :[ I hope this is one of the things modding might eventually be able to add. The new one is pretty, but it doesn't really look like horns. 



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Nah, I just want to know what they mean now because fanfiction. I am going to make an elf with the Mythal tattoos though. It will happen.... someday... :ph34r:



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Sometimes, when I get that "who cares what you did Solas, I won't leave you alone" feeling I imagine my Lavellan puts on a mask for the Inquisition, playing along with the Herald of Andraste idea to give people hope, and the only time she can just be herself is around Solas.  They're willing to go with the Herald angle in public but they're blasphemers in secret :) Everyone expects so much of her and pushes their beliefs on her, but she just wants to run away with him to learn more about the ancient ways and explore new possibilities for the future.

That sort of matches my headcanon.

 

My Inquisitor is very conscious of how much pressure she's under. She's bros with Bull, Sera, Cass, and the others. She hangs out with them and has fun. But what really washes away the stress of being the Herald of Andraste is talking to Solas. He knows just how much pressure she's under, and how necessary it is for her to be a beacon of hope (he says as much during that conversation after The Dawn Will Come). He doesn't sugarcoat it either. He acknowledges that it's necessary for her to be a symbol, and that people may still turn against her. And she finds that comforting. She's usually so strong, but she lets herself relax when she's around him.

 

That's why the last romance scene hurt so much. And afterwards, when he told her "harden your heart". Because you can't be strong all the time.

 

Even still, I'm not sure she'd forsake everything to be with him. And honestly? I don't think Solas would want the Inquisitor to do that. He values her integrity, her principles. He approves of her using her power to help people, and admires it when she says that she'd keep fighting to change things no matter what. Abandoning the people who rely on the Inquisitor isn't something he'd want her to do at all. And I wonder if trying to avoid a conflict of interest like that is part of the reason why he left. He doesn't want to have to make her choose between him and her principles.


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Heh, you guys are picking vallaslin based on their meanings.

 

I just went, "Oooh, those look badass."

 

Yeah, me too. Just went with the one I thought was pretty.



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Anyone here have Solas angry when low approval?

 

Yes. My 2nd playthrough is the rage side of my Solas heartbreak. He hates my character's guts and it makes me laugh. 



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That sort of matches my headcanon.

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I'm all out of likes but I love everything you said so much I needed to manually give you one.

 

So, *like*


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Ah, I see, thank you kala and nightwolf :)

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did you guys see this ?

 

http://kotaku.com/dr...ined-1671137779

 

 

Dragon Age: Inquisition's Ending, Explained
for most of us, Solas being the Dread Wolf is a bombshell...provided you know who the Dread Wolf is.

The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle: the Dread Wolf, aka Solas, is not perfect, as he is a real person, and as such was capable of doing awful things. Perhaps the Dread Wolf could even be noble; perhaps there was a good reason he sealed away the gods. That's my take, anyway

let's reconsider the Dread Wolf. I can't help but wonder: was he actually more of a Robin Hood-like character, as Sera is? He seems empathetic to the idea of creating chaos, but only if it has a purpose, only if it serves the greater good. The question then becomes: if the Dread Wolf wasn't as bad as the fables made him out to be, what was his purpose?78
 
What Does The Dread Wolf Hope To Accomplish?
 
It's hard to speculate on things the game doesn't explore. What we concretely see in the game is that Solas is interested in the lost history of the Elves. This is something that he has a personal stake in, not just because the world's understanding of Elven lore is so wrong, but because some of that lore includes stories of his supposed maleficence. While it's possible that the fables about the Dread Wolf are true, we can assume that the story around Mythal is not. According some tales, the Dread Wolf killed Mythal. But as we see in the epilogue, Mythal and the Dread Wolf seem to have no animosity between them.
 
Then again, the Dread Wolf does seem to absorb Mythal at the end—which is not something a friend would do, presumably. Could it be that the stories about him are right all along, and he is actually a backstabbing jerk? It's hard to say, because we don't know what the elven gods are planning. All we know is that Mythal wants revenge for some betrayal, per what she says to Morrigan in the Fade. We also know that binding/spirit transfer, like the kind that would allow Flemeth to possess Morrigan's body, can only occur with willing servants. Wouldn't Flemeth have to be willing in order for the consuming to happen? While the final scene is ambiguous and seems like a betrayal, that might not actually be what happened. For all we know, Flemeth isn't actually gone. Flemeth didn't actually die when the Hero of Ferelden struck her down, after all.9
 
Maybe it would help to consider what the Dread Wolf wants. We know that the orb that Solas gave Corypheus was probably a "foci," an item used to channel the power of the Elven gods. Presumably Solas wants to go into the Beyond to do something with the Elven gods...but what? If he sealed them there, why would he suddenly want to release them?
 
So many questions. The ending is a cliffhanger, and a damn good one at that. Those that follow the Dragon Age lore closely can't help but wonder what happens next. This is where things get particularly interesting, because everyone has theories

 

 

 

 

 

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did you guys see this ?

 

http://kotaku.com/dr...ined-1671137779

 

I was just reading through it. It's pretty long. Taking me a while to read it and do other stuff at the same time, heh.



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Y'know, when Solas says that when he was young he was all hot-blooded and cocky, was it to Varric?  Anyway, am I the only one who pictures Zevran?  I mean, not totally like Zev, but similar.  Not sure if a young Solas ever said that he was ridiculously awesome, though.   ;)


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For your vallaslin needs: http://www.glitterdu...vallaslin-lore/

Tumblr version: http://posts.glitter...ost/11438706436

 

Artwork showcasing vallaslin by hyperbali: (http://hyperbali.tum...ost/90224410100)

 

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Take note these are based on DA:O's vallaslin. ;)

 

 

 

I don't have the link anymore but I downloaded the chart. I didn't make either of these.

 

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Thank ye kindly. :)

 

Looks like I ended up with Ghilan'nain's. I think it fits my Inquisitor pretty well, even though I just chose the one I thought looked coolest.



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The under eye vallaslin in my profile picture doesn't look like it belongs to any of the gods.



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It would be kinda funny though if you removed the vallaslin and then put it back on with a Mirror of Transformation thing, and Solas shows up again and stares at you like, "Lavellan what... after all that conversation we had..." :P

 

In my fic, considering who Solas is, and what his intention would be in removing vallaslin, I decided that it was effectively "Fen'harel anansal," and sort of like Fiona's Blight cure, vallaslin can no longer be applied to my Inquisitor's face.

 

I doubt it would actually work that way, though.  Probably if you reeaaaally wanted, you could go get vallaslin done again.

 

There is actually NPC banter about the vallaslin removal; a couple of NPCs talk about it by the shops in the courtyard at Skyhold.  The weird thing is they misgendered my Inquisitor.  "But he doesn't look like ME anymore."  ... Um, Lady Lavellan is a woman... not a he...