Not specificly, I don't think so. The only difference between the classes is in that early dialogue where Solas remarks on what he finds fascinating/admirable about you. For mage it's the indomitable focus, for rogues it's their grace, and for warriors... I totally forgot. Their muscles, I think.
Ah, thank you 
A friend was wondering so she could decide which elf got him and which got Cullen, since he has mage-specific romance dialogue.
Rogues (and presumably) warriors get to ask about blood magic, too IIRC. They just don't get the option to ask him to teach it to them.
I found it pretty cool that he said he would if only he knew it. I really do like his views on blood magic, how it's just a tool and no more evil than any other form of magic. It was refreshing.
Also, while we're on the subject of magic, I'll just put my gushing about Solas and magic in here (this was originally in another thread but it died).
Personally, I find Solas's ideas about spirits and the fade rather revolutionary. If the widespread belief that magic is inherently dangerous, and fear of possession by demons actually contributes to both of those things being "true" then that has profound implications going forward. And it's even backed up by established lore if you think about it. Magic draws from the Fade, which is raw potential. But it's shaped by the mage who draws upon it. Circle teachings both teach and restrict, by directing what mages believe to be possible. That's why all circle-trained mages do the same spells. Hedge-mages, though, who haven't had any formal training aren't able to do the sorts of things circle mages can, because their way of thinking about magic hasn't been directed. So hedge mage powers take on strange and unpredictable forms. Saarebas, who are treated basically like guns (dangerous things used to make war) are only able to make big, destructive explosions with their magic (confirmed by David Gaider in a pre-release interview). With magic, it seems that belief above all is what gives it form. It could even explain stuff like limited mana pools.
And if we accept that to be true, then perhaps we can see how the ancient elves were so powerful. If they did not have the same sorts of restrictive beliefs about what magic could do, then they could conceivably reshape reality with a thought. Perhaps it was also a consequence of no veil separating the magic of the fade from the "real" world. Though I swear there was a codex entry that also said that the image of the veil as a physical barrier was deceptive, because entering the Fade relies more on a change in perception. The Fade corresponds to places in the "real" world, after all. Solas said he had to physically travel to find new areas of the Fade to explore. Therefore, the Fade is all around us. We simply can't access it unless we are a mage, or have some other means (such as the anchor).
Just listen to these banters with Vivienne. Solas basically comes out and says that she could be so much more powerful if she thought outside the box that her chantry training has put her in.
https://www.fanficti...1/Crystal-White
Lol. It's tots cool to share things that isn't smutt. XD In fact I have one that's not smutt
https://www.fanficti...1/Crystal-White
It's set back in the Elven Empire, and pretty interesting so far. And funny. XD
I didn't know that was yours!
I am in love with that story. Seriously, I check on it all the time. I was really happy you threw it up on AO3 and ff.net, because kink meme can be a bit cumbersome to read on.
You have my love. I adore AUs especially good ones, like yours.
I didn't know that was yours!
I am in love with that story. Seriously, I check on it all the time. I was really happy you threw it up on AO3 and ff.net, because kink meme can be a bit cumbersome to read on.
You have my love. I adore AUs especially good ones, like yours.
Hehe, thank you but it's not mine. 
I sadly can't write fanfiction just original. No, I was just sharing what I found.
I found it pretty cool that he said he would if only he knew it. I really do like his views on blood magic, how it's just a tool and no more evil than any other form of magic. It was refreshing.
Also, while we're on the subject of magic, I'll just put my gushing about Solas and magic in here (this was originally in another thread but it died).
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Yeah there's duality to the entire world that's been thinly separated by the Veil, but the Fade is still all around us everywhere (whoops, apparently forgot what world I'm living in 
). This also reminds me of what Solas says to Cass about Templar abilities. Just in case someone doesn't want party banter spoiled for them...
I only heard this while my husband was playing in the background but that was the gist of it. I think this supports what you said before, that mages could be capable of so much more if they weren't restricted by narrow views of possibility and reality.
So curious, I haven't seen it asked before so here we go: What class do you see as your canon, and (probably the same thing) what do you think best suits a Solas romance?
At first I would have answered mage, duh, but after playing my rogue I really loved the class and honestly... I'm kind of digging it. A trickster smart ass rogue, quick with her blades and quicker with her tongue, being in awe of this elf who, while a really elfy mage (as Sera would say) also shares a lot of her humor. And as a rogue, she hasn't had much first hand experience of the Fade, so finds the whole thing fascinating.
I know there are a lot who like the mentor/mentee teacher/student paradigm you get with a mage, but I'm kinda getting bored of mages XD
I don't know, so hard to choose.
Mage, though my back-up is an archer. Anyway, it doesn't seem to matter in the game (except Lavellan is like the worst Keeper ever: "who is this Mythal" smh), but I like the possibilities it opens up in fanfiction and headcanon. I like to imagine my Lavellan gets super-into sympathetic magic, "hearing" magic (the way Cole can), trying to learn to be a Dreamer (not sure if that's possible), etc. There are so many cool things they've introduced in DA lore lately and I like having Lavellan as an avenue to think about them.
My Hawke was a mage too, and there's something satisfying about being able to say "see? Mages are great. They've saved the day twice now." I think my next protagonist for whatever comes after Inquisition will be a rogue though. Haven't had one in my canon yet.
Sorry to interrupt.... *clears throat*
Fanart time!
This is an interesting take on Fen'Harel....
^ Artwork by Esuerc on Tumblr : (http://esuerc.tumblr...o-draw-fenharel)
^ Artwork by powersimon on Tumblr: (http://powersimon.tu...-and-a-smoother)
I found it pretty cool that he said he would if only he knew it. I really do like his views on blood magic, how it's just a tool and no more evil than any other form of magic. It was refreshing.
Also, while we're on the subject of magic, I'll just put my gushing about Solas and magic in here (this was originally in another thread but it died).
Personally, I find Solas's ideas about spirits and the fade rather revolutionary. If the widespread belief that magic is inherently dangerous, and fear of possession by demons actually contributes to both of those things being "true" then that has profound implications going forward. And it's even backed up by established lore if you think about it. Magic draws from the Fade, which is raw potential. But it's shaped by the mage who draws upon it. Circle teachings both teach and restrict, by directing what mages believe to be possible. That's why all circle-trained mages do the same spells. Hedge-mages, though, who haven't had any formal training aren't able to do the sorts of things circle mages can, because their way of thinking about magic hasn't been directed. So hedge mage powers take on strange and unpredictable forms. Saarebas, who are treated basically like guns (dangerous things used to make war) are only able to make big, destructive explosions with their magic (confirmed by David Gaider in a pre-release interview). With magic, it seems that belief above all is what gives it form. It could even explain stuff like limited mana pools.
And if we accept that to be true, then perhaps we can see how the ancient elves were so powerful. If they did not have the same sorts of restrictive beliefs about what magic could do, then they could conceivably reshape reality with a thought. Perhaps it was also a consequence of no veil separating the magic of the fade from the "real" world. Though I swear there was a codex entry that also said that the image of the veil as a physical barrier was deceptive, because entering the Fade relies more on a change in perception. The Fade corresponds to places in the "real" world, after all. Solas said he had to physically travel to find new areas of the Fade to explore. Therefore, the Fade is all around us. We simply can't access it unless we are a mage, or have some other means (such as the anchor).
Just listen to these banters with Vivienne. Solas basically comes out and says that she could be so much more powerful if she thought outside the box that her chantry training has put her in.
This is probably my favorite aspect of this game. So far we've only been able to guess and pretend what the Fade and Veil are. Now we actually have a pretty damn good idea, if not what they are, at least how they work. And it makes sense based on everything we've seen thus far in the games. It really adds to the universe. Personally, I'm inclined to believe everything Solas says about the Fade, because it makes sense. Of course, it might not make sense to our PC. Because they haven't seen the last two games and all of the explorations of magic within.
It's wonderful.
Btw, I was thinking... didn't the Warden physically go into the Fade in the Black Marsh in Awakenings? Why isn't that known? I mean if even a whisper of that got out wouldn't it become a huge deal? Everyone is like "omg quizzy you walked into the Fade. so cool you're the first since the magisters." And I'm just sitting there thinking ... uh no?
Ugh, I just realized that my words no longer make any sense. *hangs head* So tired, think I'll go to bed.
Ugh, I just realized that my words no longer make any sense. *hangs head* So tired, think I'll go to bed.
Wait!
Take Solas with you!!
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Help me name my Lavellan.
I think I"m going to work on her CC tonight and she's got to be perfect, but naming is the hardest. Do you guys just come up with names out of thin air or do you use a generator or website?
I realise I'm a bit late, but I normally use this website: http://www.behindthename.com/
I found it when I read somewhere that David Gaider sometimes uses it when he names characters. It's also the best site for name etymology that I've been able to find, and I personally love that. I don't just pick names that I find phonetically appealing, I tend to want to know a bit about their history and established meaning as well.
If there was more of the dragon age elven language, I'd probably use that for naming elven characters, but as it is now, I find it hard to construct appealing names with what's available to us. I actually headcanon that my Lavellan was born a city elf but driven away when her magic manifested, only to be found and raised by the Lavellan clan. That's my excuse for her having a first name that isn't genuinely elfy. Most of the NPC elf names are just random, made up, elfy syllable combinations, I imagine, so that could certainly be a way to go. Others are actual combinations of elven words, such as Felassan (felas = slow + assan = arrow) in The Masked Empire. Anyway, here's all of the available dragon age elven language, as far as I know: http://dragonage.wik.../Elven_language
Or, if you want to use a more realised elven language and just pick a name that seems to fit the Dragon Age setting, there's always Tolkien's elven languages. This is a wonderful resource for LotR elf names (as well as names in other Tolkien languages): http://www.realelvis...t/namelists.php
Sorry for going so far off-topic. Just trying to help people create new Lavellans for Solasmancing purposes. 
I don't know, I agree with you. Originally I didn't lean towards them being intimate but then as the game progressed (especially their physical familiarity in the final scene), I thought that maybe they did. I suppose it really depends on how the player views sexual intimacy and emotional intimacy. The strength of the Solas and Lavellan relationship is in the intensity between them, the emotional charge. It's the meeting of two souls who are grasping each other tightly from across the ages, everything they do is incredibly intimate. And I'm not sure anything they do in dreams would be any less real for both of them than it would be when it happens in the flesh. He just looks at her so reverently. Of all the relationships in Inquisition, I'd define their relationship as the most spiritual, even godly. It's... loving the person, yes, but also so much more. It's practically religious, which is probably why I put down so many with either blatant or religious undertones in their playlists. In her way, she really is his savior.
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I found it pretty cool that he said he would if only he knew it. I really do like his views on blood magic, how it's just a tool and no more evil than any other form of magic. It was refreshing.
Also, while we're on the subject of magic, I'll just put my gushing about Solas and magic in here (this was originally in another thread but it died).
Personally, I find Solas's ideas about spirits and the fade rather revolutionary. If the widespread belief that magic is inherently dangerous, and fear of possession by demons actually contributes to both of those things being "true" then that has profound implications going forward. And it's even backed up by established lore if you think about it. Magic draws from the Fade, which is raw potential. But it's shaped by the mage who draws upon it. Circle teachings both teach and restrict, by directing what mages believe to be possible. That's why all circle-trained mages do the same spells. Hedge-mages, though, who haven't had any formal training aren't able to do the sorts of things circle mages can, because their way of thinking about magic hasn't been directed. So hedge mage powers take on strange and unpredictable forms. Saarebas, who are treated basically like guns (dangerous things used to make war) are only able to make big, destructive explosions with their magic (confirmed by David Gaider in a pre-release interview). With magic, it seems that belief above all is what gives it form. It could even explain stuff like limited mana pools.
And if we accept that to be true, then perhaps we can see how the ancient elves were so powerful. If they did not have the same sorts of restrictive beliefs about what magic could do, then they could conceivably reshape reality with a thought. Perhaps it was also a consequence of no veil separating the magic of the fade from the "real" world. Though I swear there was a codex entry that also said that the image of the veil as a physical barrier was deceptive, because entering the Fade relies more on a change in perception. The Fade corresponds to places in the "real" world, after all. Solas said he had to physically travel to find new areas of the Fade to explore. Therefore, the Fade is all around us. We simply can't access it unless we are a mage, or have some other means (such as the anchor).
You're views on magic are wonderful my friend! Is there a magic support thread by chance? There seems to be a support thread for everything else. I think that a place where constructive conversations about the arcane could be discussed would be an excellent idea.
I have to say, that Solas is my favorite DA character! His perspectives, personality, possible motives, and origin are simply fantastic! I never thought that I would meet a mage in-game that has such wonderful views on not only magic, but the world in general. This is the first character in the series to blow my mind more than Flemeth did.
I hate to mention this, but I suspect this essentially a setup for a potential DLC path. The closest I believe we'll get to a happy ending is Solas making a final sacrifice and dying in Lavellan's arms. That would technically tick all the 'happy' boxes: atonement, redemption, new hope for his People, not dying alone, while still being the Worst Happy Ending Ever. TwT
I'm more in favor of Quizzy and Solas having to sacrifice to fix Thedas. Like maybe they both die or maybe they both go to the fade and live there making sure the breach never happens again. To me their new Tarot card would be "The Lovers". Is a nice way to make Quizzy disappear without having to create lame mysteries like they did with Hawke and Warden.
You're views on magic are wonderful my friend! Is there a magic support thread by chance? There seems to be a support thread for everything else. I think that a place where constructive conversations about the arcane could be discussed would be an excellent idea.
I haven't seen one around. You should start one! I love magic in Dragon Age, and I think Inquisition's provided a lot of new fuel for discussion.
I'm going to repeat my perfect happy ever after for Solas and Lavellan...
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Ya but not without a reason. Neither Lavellan nor Solas are quitters, they act when people are suffering. So there would have to be a need for them to do it. Like they would be the guardians of Thedas there, preventing another breach
I haven't seen one around. You should start one! I love magic in Dragon Age, and I think Inquisition's provided a lot of new fuel for discussion.
I think I will I am going to quote your previous comment to get it started however 
I think one of my favorite things about Solas is that he spouts a lot of Heideggarian ideas. Every time he talks about being limited by preconceptions and wants people to explore what the world really is my toes curls in pure delight. I'm a nerd.
I think I will
Sounds great!
I think one of my favorite things about Solas is that he spouts a lot of Heideggarian ideas. Every time he talks about being limited by preconceptions and wants people to explore what the world really is my toes curls in pure delight. I'm a nerd.
Right?! I'm an Anthro student, so Solas talking about perception shaping reality makes me go, "yes! Solas has read Bourdieu!" And then he talks about how Chantry/institutional teachings determine perception and I mentally add "and Foucault!" I'm in nerd heaven whenever I listen to him.
I think one of my favorite things about Solas is that he spouts a lot of Heideggarian ideas. Every time he talks about being limited by preconceptions and wants people to explore what the world really is my toes curls in pure delight. I'm a nerd.
And you thought DA's elven language was hard to translate already, wait till you find out it has a word for In-der-Welt-sein D:
They do?! Just when I thought I couldn't love the elves more. I love Heidegger language, but I feel sorry for people who has to read him in English. Both in Norwegian and ofc German it's pure poetry and so freaking precise and expressive. I've read Sein und Zeit 3 times the last year in three languages.
They do?! Just when I thought I couldn't love the elves more. I love Heidegger language, but I feel sorry for people who has to read him in English. Both in Norwegian and ofc German it's pure poetry and so freaking precise and expressive. I've read Sein und Zeit 3 times the last year in three languages.
Blah, I wish I could read it in the original German. 
I'm awful with languages though.
All this talk of philosophy reminds me of the cutscene where Solas gives you his personal quest. And how he says that his friend, the spirit of Wisdom, would "happily discuss philosophy with you." I wish we'd gotten the chance. 
They do?! Just when I thought I couldn't love the elves more. I love Heidegger language, but I feel sorry for people who has to read him in English. Both in Norwegian and ofc German it's pure poetry and so freaking precise and expressive. I've read Sein und Zeit 3 times the last year in three languages.
Nah, not that I'm aware of. But if any language in DA does, that'd probably be it
edit: also if I could read German I probably would have actually read more Heidegger... in English it's, uh, a bit of a struggle...
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