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[NekOoNinja]

The artwork.... Soooolaaas! Whyyyy!

Yes, after the second playthrough I get why you want to protect Lavellan. Lavellan does not care. she thinks, you need lots of hugs and a serious talk about why you, Solas, are wrong about a lot of things. Spent too much time in the fade. Not healthy.

 

We need a DnD style expansion with epic levels. Bring on the lame Elvhen pantheon! It would't be that bad, if Lavellan could only achieve Lvl 40. Right? Right? Oh well.

 

I fear that he may have become another Anders. Oh the disappointment.

 

 

Anyone else feel sad when riding throguh the Emerald graves post game? The green forest, the music...

I have decided to let my quizzy rest next to the lone wolf statue in the western part of the forest. Taking a nap. Thinking.

 

Perfect epilogue for me, and hopefully a good intro for eventual Solas related DLC. 

[BlackCat]

From Twitter (not sure if anyone posted this yet?)

User

@PatrickWeekes After the break up with Solas Cole mentions pain & Solas says this isn't a pain he can fix is he talking about his own mistake pain or hurting the inquisitor?

 

Patrick Weekes

@user Sorry, no way I can answer that without implicitly answering a bunch of stuff we aren't spoiling yet. So... your call!

 

Oh my god, yes... Solas DLC 

[Ajna]

Oh my god, yes... Solas DLC 

[NekOoNinja]

Oh my god, yes... Solas DLC 

Can't fangirl enough about it, despite thinking how pointless the Morrigan DLC for Origins was. That was back then, and now I am in the same boat. The irony.

[Mortarion]

Can't fangirl enough about it, despite thinking how pointless the Morrigan DLC for Origins was. That was back then, and now I am in the same boat. 

Funny how things change, isn't it? ANyways, cna't wait for Solas DLC

[TwoWardens]

I do however think that since we now have information our inquisitor doesn't re:Solas, she'd have to find it out really early on in any forthcoming DLC. It's one thing to hunt for spoilers online, but to actually be spoiled by the game itself? That shouldn't happen. Unless she rereads her quest journal and discovers that "All New, Faded For Her" is actually an anagram...

Spoiler

"Fen Harel, Dread Wolf"

 

My second playthrough, I thought to myself, that's an...odd quest name. OH WAIT.

 

My Lavellan looked at her quest journal and discovered that "All New, Faded For Her" is an anagram for

 

Spoiler

Ah, fellow fade nerd!

 

, so she was unconcerned 

[drake2511]

 

Comes this I-don't-even-have-words piece of art:

 

 

source: http://al-teya.tumbl...ge/105342463260

 

_{don't look at me I'm not drooling}

A like isn't enough for this. Someone should tweet this to Weekes! 

EDIT: Ok I did it, it's too beautiful not to show him.

Modifié par drake2511, 16 décembre 2014 - 01:01 .

[scintilla]

From Twitter (not sure if anyone posted this yet?)

User

@PatrickWeekes After the break up with Solas Cole mentions pain & Solas says this isn't a pain he can fix is he talking about his own mistake pain or hurting the inquisitor?

 

Patrick Weekes

@user Sorry, no way I can answer that without implicitly answering a bunch of stuff we aren't spoiling yet. So... your call!

 

Wouldn't he be able to answer if it was just hurting the Inquisitor since that happened in game?

[Abelas]

Wouldn't he be able to answer if it was just hurting the Inquisitor since that happened in game?

 

My guess is that it's both. Cole speaks, even before the breakup, about an ancient pain in him. And the love he has for Lavellan is also really connected to his loneliness and isolation, with his mistake. I mean, it's not easy to define pain and hurt: it's a collective. Something that takes over all of you, not just one part. 

[Lorien19]

From the brilliant artist that brought us this sexy pic:

Spoiler

Comes this I-don't-even-have-words piece of art:



source: http://al-teya.tumbl...ge/105342463260

_{don't look at me I'm not drooling}

This is breathtakingly beautiful!Irrelevant, but I noticed that this is the first DA game,where we don't have at least one song in elvish!
GDL should do one, he sounds so natural when he speaks DA elvish! xD

[Friera]

I thought Solas was allright... until the very end. (after credit)

 

Now I HAVE TO romance him. God, please BW make a Solas DLC fleshing him out. DA:I almost felt like a prequel to even more epic game exploring the elven lore. I will be dissapointed if we have to wait another 3-4 years for the continue of Solas´s story.

 

Ending spoiler:

 

Spoiler

I interpeted that Solas is a good guy who made a terrible mistake in the past that he want to fix. (although that might be bad news for the other races in Thedas ) I hope Solas will not be some ultimate bad guy/final boss aka Darth Vader in future DLC/games. That would be typical. Although it would be a well balanced antagonist that would be next to impossible not feel sympathy for.  

 

The ending felt anticlimax. Not really as epic as expected. I am hoping for some big DLC that will conclude more of DA:I. Only thing we really concluded was mage/templarwar and the Chantry...

[scintilla]

My guess is that it's both. Cole speaks, even before the breakup, about an ancient pain in him. And the love he has for Lavellan is also really connected to his loneliness and isolation, with his mistake. I mean, it's not easy to define pain and hurt: it's a collective. Something that takes over all of you, not just one part. 

 

I'd like this if I could. 

 

I'm in the minority of people who don't think Solas sounds too upset about the breakup in the Cole banter. In the grand scheme of things, the relationship wasn't necessarily that significant.

 

My point stands that if there wasn't something else going on, he probably could have answered. Responding to that at all, while nice of him, implies that there's more going on there. Then again, the "warmer and colder" about the article also implies that someone is at least partially right. I suppose that could be deliberate misdirection.

 

Either way, he must be having a lot of fun watching people try to make sense of it all.

[vertigomez]

There's a word for that. In fact, it's the word that I think really describes Solas as a character. "Saudade". It's Portuguese and means, roughly, "a deep emotional state of nostalgic or profound melancholic longing for an absent something or someone that one loves." That's basically the romance. Beautiful, full of longing, but tinged with melancholy at the knowledge that it can't work. It's also (imo) the emotion that Hallelujah evokes. 
 
Maybe there's a god above, but all I've ever learned from love is how to shoot at somebody who outdrew you.

Reminds me of lathbora viran, "the path to a place of lost love", a longing for a thing one can never really know.

[Shechinah]

(to scintilla) Oh, I bet he is. I still stand by my opinion that the writers are snickering whenever they read the forum theories regardless whether it is about the story or its characters.

[Mims]

Shoot, I would love a print of that art. 

[MadameQuizzy]

So, after replaying that area last night I have a headcanon that the temple in the Oasis was one once built by Solas and that he is taking the inquisitor there to see if she's worthy of entering and receiving the perks hidden there:

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

And in other news I think in my fic I'm going to make Solas struggle so hard with his desire for Lavellan that he turns to arrogance to scare her away. Of course this won't help much but it might give for interesting little chapters of bickering.

[Chari]

Andraste's break, it's amazing O_O 

A significant but kinda subtle dark aura of Solas compared to bright and pure light of Lavellan... a great composition

[scintilla]

(to scintilla) Oh, I bet he is. I still stand by my opinion that the writers are snickering whenever they read the forum theories regardless whether it is about the story or its characters.

 

The only theory the devs need to see is the Creators/Gilligan's Island one. By far the best idea to come out of the game. 

[Lorien19]

I thought Solas was allright... until the very end. (after credit)

Now I HAVE TO romance him. God, please BW make a Solas DLC fleshing him out. DA:I almost felt like a prequel to even more epic game exploring the elven lore. I will be dissapointed if we have to wait another 3-4 years for the continue of Solas´s story.

Ending spoiler:

Spoiler

I interpeted that Solas is a good guy who made a terrible mistake in the past that he want to fix. (although that might be bad news for the other races in Thedas ) I hope Solas will not be some ultimate bad guy/final boss aka Darth Vader in future DLC/games. That would be typical. Although it would be a well balanced antagonist that would be next to impossible not feel sympathy for.

The ending felt anticlimax. Not really as epic as expected. I am hoping for some big DLC that will conclude more of DA:I. Only thing we really concluded was mage/templarwar and the Chantry...

I agree about the ending,I was like "alright" rather than "Wow".
But my interest came back after watching the post credit scene,it was completely unexpected despite the clues in the game,that you notice only after the first playthrough.

[Cheerios789]

I'd like this if I could. 

 

I'm in the minority of people who don't think Solas sounds too upset about the breakup in the Cole banter. In the grand scheme of things, the relationship wasn't necessarily that significant.

 

My point stands that if there wasn't something else going on, he probably could have answered. Responding to that at all, while nice of him, implies that there's more going on there. Then again, the "warmer and colder" about the article also implies that someone is at least partially right. I suppose that could be deliberate misdirection.

 

Either way, he must be having a lot of fun watching people try to make sense of it all.

 

I agree that Cole dialogue was not about the relationship.  Personally, I believe Solas is anguishing over a mixture of what he has already done coupled with what he must now do.  He is depressed and yet resolute in his decision.  If you strip away any friendship with the quizzy and/or relationship, the conversation is one last goodbye and apology for the only person/spirit he cares about.  Because you already get the apology and similiar conversation with Solas in your relationship/friendship.  He says "what we had was real"/"I respect you."  That is his goodbye and apology.  The fact that he also gives one to Cole (presumably the only other individual he cared for) is worrying.  He is truly saying goodbye and it is final.  He is set on the path.

 

Honestly, I feel like the relationship with him is real and the emotions are honest, but he is set on the path already.  So in the end the love only hurts him.  The quizzy is just one more person, in presumably a long line of people, that he has utterly failed and betrayed.  That hurts and is awful and is tragic.  If we actually cared about the guy ... maybe we shouldn't romance him.

 

Of course I will ... always, because I like a good tragedy and I love that dumb man.

 

However, this raises so many questions about what and why he is doing this.  Because it's very very hard not to trust Solas.  If he truly feels like he needs to do something, what is it?  I think that all of the things we talk to him about and everything the companions talk to him about and all of the times he concedes to another's wisdom and point is only because he allows the conversation to venture into topics he is willing to change his opinion on.  Solas is controlling and manipulative.  Those are not necessarily bad traits, but they can be. 

 

edit- To quote my BF "Honey, put a damn point on it."  Sorry guys, I rambled.

[Cheerios789]

The only theory the devs need to see is the Creators/Gilligan's Island one. By far the best idea to come out of the game. 

 

It is my favorite.  It makes me want to write short episodic comedies around the gods and their antics. 

 

*Opens Microsoft Word*

 

Sigh, I guess I'm doing this now...

[MadameQuizzy]

It is my favorite.  It makes me want to write short episodic comedies around the gods and their antics. 

 

*Opens Microsoft Word*

 

Sigh, I guess I'm doing this now...

 

Do. Want. 

Please. 

 

[Abelas]

I'd like this if I could. 

 

I'm in the minority of people who don't think Solas sounds too upset about the breakup in the Cole banter. In the grand scheme of things, the relationship wasn't necessarily that significant.

 

My point stands that if there wasn't something else going on, he probably could have answered. Responding to that at all, while nice of him, implies that there's more going on there. Then again, the "warmer and colder" about the article also implies that someone is at least partially right. I suppose that could be deliberate misdirection.

 

Either way, he must be having a lot of fun watching people try to make sense of it all.

 

I think that, regarding the breakup, he's mostly upset about the pain he caused to Lavellan. Obviously he sees it as him having used her, as him being selfish. She's important to him, colossaly so probably (taking everything that he is into account, and taking his worst fear and desires), but that goes beyond the breakup, I think. From the beginning he couldn't have this. And despite how selfish it all was, I think he's pretty selfless in general. This heartbreak for him is a smaller consequence. By that I mean: For him it's more important that he saves the world, whatever that might mean to him. That he fixes what went wrong, even if also for her sake, who knows. Whatever he suffers is of least importance to him, although obviously, it hurts. A lot. 

 

There's probably always going to be some part of him screaming against everything, the part where he cares about himself, what he wants. The part that is so so so afraid of ending up alone, but: it's a small cost to pay if he can make things right.

(If only you knew you are probably still making things wrong.)

[Lorien19]

I agree that Cole dialogue was not about the relationship. Personally, I believe Solas is anguishing over a mixture of what he has already done coupled with what he must now do. He is depressed and yet resolute in his decision. If you strip away any friendship with the quizzy and/or relationship, the conversation is one last goodbye and apology for the only person/spirit he cares about. Because you already get the apology and similiar conversation with Solas in your relationship/friendship. He says "what we had was real"/"I respect you." That is his goodbye and apology. The fact that he also gives one to Cole (presumably the only other individual he cared for) is worrying. He is truly saying goodbye and it is final. He is set on the path.

Honestly, I feel like the relationship with him is real and the emotions are honest, but he is set on the path already. So in the end the love only hurts him. The quizzy is just one more person, in presumably a long line of people, that he has utterly failed and betrayed. That hurts and is awful and is tragic. If we actually cared about the guy ... maybe we shouldn't romance him.

Of course I will ... always, because I like a good tragedy and I love that dumb man.

However, this raises so many questions about what and why he is doing this. Because it's very very hard not to trust Solas. If he truly feels like he needs to do something, what is it? I think that all of the things we talk to him about and everything the companions talk to him about and all of the times he concedes to another's wisdom and point is only because he allows the conversation to venture into topics he is willing to change his opinion on. Solas is controlling and manipulative. Those are not necessarily bad traits, but they can be.

I agree,the fact that he decided to end his relationship with Lavellan by itself indicates that he's determined to fulfil his task,whatever that is.
He is truly set on his path,and as you said so far the feelings he has for Lavellan,only cause him pain.
This is one of the reasons I want closure,I think Morriganmancers would understand,since she was also set on her own path.Although truth be told,I'm less optimistic about Solas.

[Ajna]

PESSIMISM BE GONE! *waves hand*