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[Shari'El]

I was thinking about this last night and I was curious to why the Mark wasn't mentioned during end game. I would have thought at least one character would have brought it up to why the Inq still has the Mark (I know it's there for gameplay purposes like you mentioned). I hope you're right that DLC will explain/expand and give us more Solas.

 

All of the dialog post game was kind of dull generally, maybe except that one line from Cole.

Anyhow, I just don't think they were surprised, it was known for quite some time it is permanent. Some one even said it (my brain is broken, I don't remember who, but it was someone with an opinion that matter so it's ok! [if some one remember who says that.. please help XD]), it's part of the Inquisitor.

Probably didn't feel the need to address it, OR didn't address for the sake of keeping a bit of the surprise (in case someone doesn't notice)?

[Vorathrad]

Oh god I'm not sure why but Solas' sexy time with spirits makes me cringe XD

And yes, I just quoted the part where he says that 'it's your fault Herald. You've interrupted a ritual years in the planning, and instead of dying you stole its' purpose'.

This sentence made me think about a lotttt of things.

Years in the making may indicate he was planning doing it, while knowing that he can achieve that with a Foci, maybe that's how he convinced Sols to give it to him, although... Geez. Anyone who looks like Corypheblech is not to be trusted.

Otherwise, maybe Solas awoke around the time Hawke freed Coryphemeh from its' warden prison.

 

I guess my lurking days are gone, now that I *finally" caught up with the thread. Sexy times with spirits makes me cringe as well, what with transparent bodies and...

 

ahem, let's better talk about Coripheus and the orb 

 

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My guess is that Corinuts awoke, thought "Now this is some shitty world" And then, very conveniently, he found a certain orb left around by a certain bald elven glory god, and started to figure out how he could use it to go back to the Black City. Finding a ritual that could activate the orb and give him the Anchor and build his agents network in order to carry it out was what took "years in the planning".

[Kulyok]

PSA: Do not read smutty fanfic first thing in the morning unless you want to be late for work.

Well, at least my husbands happy.

 

You're channeling me! Or I'm channeling you. Btw, if you know any good fanfiction, please, add it to this thread!

http://forum.bioware...ers/?p=18062605(I keep updating my post, but I can't catch everything)

[DragonRacer]

Actually, my theory is that the elven gods have to possess bodies, but Solas is somehow special and has gone through a Humanizing of Cole type process.

 

My theory about elves in general is that they are spirits-made-flesh.  That could be extended to the gods, but it seems the gods do have fleshly bodies, which can be corrupted.  If they didn't have bodies, they couldn't become Blighted.

 

Definitely an interesting theory. I ran across a codex entry the other day... I believe it was in the fade during "Here Lies The Abyss"... about the "Dumat's Tooth" statue/sacrificial stand thing. It was written by an elven slave and basically explained that the Tevinter magisters liked using elven slaves in their blood ritual sacrifices because they believed elves to have some sort of extra special connection to the Fade, compared to all other races.

 

I found that... interesting, to say the least.

[scintilla]

 

All of the dialog post game was kind of dull generally, maybe except that one line from Cole.

Anyhow, I just don't think they were surprised, it was known for quite some time it is permanent. Some one even said it (my brain is broken, I don't remember who, but it was someone with an opinion that matter so it's ok! [if some one remember who says that.. please help XD]), it's part of the Inquisitor.

Probably didn't feel the need to address it, OR didn't address for the sake of keeping a bit of the surprise (in case someone doesn't notice)?

 

Corypheus says the Anchor can't be removed.

[Vorathrad]

No one ever gets kicked out of the blanket fort!

 

It really depends on the kind of character being played.

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My Lavellan is a "doesn't need a partner to be happy" sort and will maybe move on if she falls in love again (if only Cassandra were into ladies!) or will maybe not if she doesn't. So long as the Inquisition exists and she's the Inquisitor, that's her first priority.

 

Thank you, I love it here in the blanket fort! 

 

Exactly, I think Lavellan's reaction post-game depends a lot on how you play her

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(unless we get some fantastic DLC with additional content on the romance and we can all stop thinking about moving on  ) My Lavellan doesn't need a partner to be happy but having her own family was her biggest dream pre-Inquisition stuff (I don't want kids myself but it's funny that she felt to me as that kind of person) She would have loved that Solas was the one to walk that path with, but as for the moment it seems impossible... she will be open to find love and that possibility again. Not just with anyone who is able to make elfy babies, of course. 

 

I love discussing how every one of us imagines her Lavellan and her reactions post-romance, so many different yet interesting approaches.

[scintilla]

Thank you, I love it here in the blanket fort! 

 

Exactly, I think Lavellan's reaction post-game depends a lot on how you play her

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(unless we get some fantastic DLC with additional content on the romance and we can all stop thinking about moving on  ) My Lavellan doesn't need a partner to be happy but having her own family was her biggest dream pre-Inquisition stuff (I don't want kids myself but it's funny that she felt to me as that kind of person) She would have loved that Solas was the one to walk that path with, but as for the moment it seems impossible... she will be open to find love and that possibility again. Not just with anyone who is able to make elfy babies, of course. 

 

I love discussing how every one of us imagines her Lavellan and her reactions post-romance, so many different yet interesting approaches.

 

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Here's to hoping.  Her big dream was probably eventually being Keeper and guiding and protecting her clan. That's probably never going to happen for her now but the Inquisition is a responsibility that can take it's place and give her purpose. She's not closed to the idea of another relationship, she just doesn't have a big attachment to the idea. Oddly enough, I don't want children but she struck me as someone who would. If the story allows for it, I could see her adopting if she never finds anyone else (Cassandra  ). Maybe she can adopt Cole. 

 

It's really neat to see how differently everyone imagines the end for their character.

[Shari'El]

I guess my lurking days are gone, now that I *finally" caught up with the thread. Sexy times with spirits makes me cringe as well, what with transparent bodies and...

 

ahem, let's better talk about Coripheus and the orb 

 

Spoiler

My guess is that Corinuts awoke, thought "Now this is some shitty world" And then, very conveniently, he found a certain orb left around by a certain bald elven glory god, and started to figure out how he could use it to go back to the Black City. Finding a ritual that could activate the orb and give him the Anchor and build his agents network in order to carry it out was what took "years in the planning".

 

Welcome to the freakin' club 

 

Anyhow

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Could be, but that would mean it happened 10 years before the events of DAI, he makes it sounds like he's been planning that for hundred of years (I seriously can see that guy, who lived for thousands of years, to stress over 10 years of work).

[AWTEW]

Did anyone else feel a sort of blankness, when Solas left levallen? When i first saw it, thats what I felt.. It was like 'wow okay thats over..' (and levellan seems to keep almost emotionless regardles, which does not help.) I enjoyed the solas romance, but i feel like its missing something..a key element..

I was thinking that the solas romance is meant to be an almost equivilant of morrigan romance. With morrigan male wardens get to have an OLd god baby,

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while female inquisitors get to romance a god.

nice to see solas has a lot of fans

[Shari'El]

 

 

 

Corypheus says the Anchor can't be removed.

 

 

Yeah that's obvious, but another person referenced it, later in the game.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Did anyone else feel a sort of blankness, when Solas left levallen? When i first saw it, thats what I felt.. It was like 'wow okay thats over..' (and levellan seems to keep almost emotionless regardles, which does not help.) I enjoyed the solas romance, but i feel like its missing something..a key element..

I was thinking that the solas romance is meant to be an almost equivilant of morrigan romance. With morrigan male wardens get to have an OLd god baby, (spoiler)while female inquisitors get to romance a god.(/spoiler)

nice to see solas has a lot of fans

 

The scene can feel rather blank as you put it if you go a specific route in the dialog options. Though I definetly do like picking the first sad option then ending with the angry option (the "Tell me you don't care,").

[Cosmia]

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Here's to hoping.  Her big dream was probably eventually being Keeper and guiding and protecting her clan. That's probably never going to happen for her now but the Inquisition is a responsibility that can take it's place and give her purpose. She's not closed to the idea of another relationship, she just doesn't have a big attachment to the idea. Oddly enough, I don't want children but she struck me as someone who would. If the story allows for it, I could see her adopting if she never finds anyone else (Cassandra  ). Maybe she can convince Cole to be a platonic life partner. 

 

It's really neat to see how differently everyone imagines the end for their character.

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I know Cassandra is straight, but my Lavellan would totally have been all up on that if not that + Solas... Maybe she can just have a like platonic love-fest three way relationship with Dorian and Cassandra. A woman can dream.

[scintilla]

Welcome to the freakin' club 

 

Anyhow

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Could be, but that would mean it happened 10 years before the events of DAI, he makes it sounds like he's been planning that for hundred of years (I seriously can see that guy, who lived for thousands of years, to stress over 10 years of work).

 

He was sleeping/trapped for a significant part of the time.

 

Yeah that's obvious, but another person referenced it, later in the game.

 

Hm. I can't think of anyone else who mentions it. =/ Sorry.

 

Did anyone else feel a sort of blankness, when Solas left levallen? When i first saw it, thats what I felt.. It was like 'wow okay thats over..' (and levellan seems to keep almost emotionless regardles, which does not help.) I enjoyed the solas romance, but i feel like its missing something..a key element..

I was thinking that the solas romance is meant to be an almost equivilant of morrigan romance. With morrigan male wardens get to have an OLd god baby,

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while female inquisitors get to romance a god.

nice to see solas has a lot of fans

 

A lot of people think it feels unfinished, I think. Probably in part because it's clear that he still cares, so there's an expectation of resolution of those feelings. Out of curiosity, which voice did you use? I thought Alix Wilton Regan (british) did a really good job of being emotional without overdoing it. Sumalee Montano (american) is less emotive.

 

It certainly has commonalities with the Morrigan romance.

 

He's an interesting character, yes. 

[dragondreamer]

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My Lavellan spent years avoiding being married off, she had her head in her studies, art, and explorations most of the time.  Solas "changed everything" for her as well when she fell in love with him, because he was the first one she could really see herself marrying and having kids with.  When he left, it didn't break her, though she feels that loss very deeply.  Trying to find someone new just so she won't be "alone", wouldn't be in character for her.  Solas was a special circumstance, she otherwise prefers her independence.  Her family is important to her, but she doesn't need to have children to have family.  And she's pretty much adopted Cole anyway.

[electrifried]

You'll see a little bit more of his personality in the romance but not much else. That little bit more has created a lot of sympathy in fans who did the romance though, so maybe it's worth it?

 

I romanced Solas in my second play through because I was so thrown by the ending and I wanted to understand more of his intentions and wth happened. I thought he was initially really annoying (had a pretty low approval with him at first, he even commented about it lol xD) but he's now my favourite character in the series. I misjudged him pretty bad; knowing his back story now adds so much more depth to the hints and clues you find in the game. It's making my second play through way more satisfying anyway, especially in contrast to the main coryshiz happening. The fact that he knew about Skyhold and that it's been there for ages as an old elven castle is pretty crazy when you think about it. What if he once lived there once upon a time?

[AWTEW]

The scene can feel rather blank as you put it if you go a specific route in the dialog options. Though I definetly do like picking the first sad option then ending with the angry option (the "Tell me you don't care,").

  Hmnn that might be it then, in that scene. But in the end game..she still seems blank.. about it. I dont know maybe it is just me.

He was sleeping/trapped for a significant part of the time.
 

 
Hm. I can't think of anyone else who mentions it. =/ Sorry.
 

 
A lot of people think it feels unfinished, I think. Probably in part because it's clear that he still cares, so there's an expectation of resolution of those feelings. Out of curiosity, which voice did you use? I thought Alix Wilton Regan (british) did a really good job of being emotional without overdoing it. Sumalee Montano (american) is less emotive.
 
It certainly has commonalities with the Morrigan romance.
 
He's an interesting character, yes. 

An expectation of a resolution? Now that you mention it, that's probably where that blankness comes from..I was expecting a resolution after the break up, sort of how you get one with fenris. The voice set was the british one: the other one was just too loud and didint seem to fit with an elf, at least in my head.

[Shari'El]

Thank you, I love it here in the blanket fort! 

 

Exactly, I think Lavellan's reaction post-game depends a lot on how you play her

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(unless we get some fantastic DLC with additional content on the romance and we can all stop thinking about moving on  ) My Lavellan doesn't need a partner to be happy but having her own family was her biggest dream pre-Inquisition stuff (I don't want kids myself but it's funny that she felt to me as that kind of person) She would have loved that Solas was the one to walk that path with, but as for the moment it seems impossible... she will be open to find love and that possibility again. Not just with anyone who is able to make elfy babies, of course. 

 

I love discussing how every one of us imagines her Lavellan and her reactions post-romance, so many different yet interesting approaches.

 

Mmm I'll join with my opinion.

 

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My Lavellan is the curious, inquisitive type. This has been reinforced by Solas compliments, he made that part of her even more prominent. Besides that part of her she tends to be more on the reserved side, with snarky comments with those who she feels close to (like Varric [she was attracted to the fact he is a writer, and really liked how he got along with Cole, though he is more of a companion than a full fledged friend], Dorian, Sera [she didn't get along with Sera at the beginning but they share opinions, and got close on that basis. After Solas broke up with her she went to Sera to sit with her on the roof :(]). In my headcannon she has a younger brother, a hunter, so she did her most to save what's left of her clan (and succeeded) for his sake, but she doesn't feel any special obligation towards her clan. Even though she cares much about her people, she always wanted to see world (for my headcannon - that's why she found herself in the conclave as well as ran in during the ritual). I imagine her heartbroken, to be honest I imagine Solas being the most meaningful connection she ever had with another being (seeing she was quite private). She never did seek love to sweep her off her feet but then came that guy who made her feel like her opinions and inquisitiveness aren't a bother, so she fell in love .

Post game I'd say she won't stop functioning, she'll be depressed but her reserved nature will suppress it, it would only be visible to her friends. She'll become more of 'OK, what is the problem?' straight on then asking questions. She'll work to keep herself distracted, and study when she could.

She won't return to her clan, she'll find it hard after Solas removed her vallaslin, and she would want to learn more of what happened to her People.

If the Inquisition stops existing she would travel the world, visiting Dalish clans and elven ruins.

 

Oh, and she does not want children. Although I thought it's because I don't want children, I later understood it just REALLY doesn't fit with her story. Children will bound her and won't let her grow. After she discovered she can grow, why would she give that up? Love doesn't mean that much to her.

 

Maybe only Solas' love.

 

And I've written a freakin' scroll. Jeez, I'm the worst.

[Ajna]

I romanced Solas in my second play through because I was so thrown by the ending and I wanted to understand more of his intentions and wth happened. I thought he was initially really annoying (had a pretty low approval with him at first, he even commented about it lol xD) but he's now my favourite character in the series. I misjudged him pretty bad; knowing his back story now adds so much more depth to the hints and clues you find in the game. It's making my second play through way more satisfying anyway, especially in contrast to the main coryshiz happening. The fact that he knew about Skyhold and that it's been there for ages as an old elven castle is pretty crazy when you think about it. What if he once lived there once upon a time?

This is great to see!  I wish everyone could do this rather than just write him off as black and white/evil/ugly/annoying *insert appropriate word here* and cry for a murder knife.

[Shari'El]

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My Lavellan spent years avoiding being married off, she had her head in her studies, art, and explorations most of the time.  Solas "changed everything" for her as well when she fell in love with him, because he was the first one she could really see herself marrying and having kids with.  When he left, it didn't break her, though she feels that loss very deeply.  Trying to find someone new just so she won't be "alone", wouldn't be in character for her.  Solas was a special circumstance, she otherwise prefers her independence.  Her family is important to her, but she doesn't need to have children to have family.  And she's pretty much adopted Cole anyway.

 

Hey that! Is almost like I treated mine. I forgot to mention Cole though. She pretty much takes him everywhere, he's such a kid.

[Ajna]

I'm actually in awe that people are finding this happening, he became my favourite too.  I hope Patrick Weekes feels pretty damn amazing about that, because he should!

[Addai]

Hm. I can't think of anyone else who mentions it. =/ Sorry.

Divine Justinia, in the Fade, says "the Mark is part of you, it cannot be removed without your death." Something like that.
 

A lot of people think it feels unfinished, I think. Probably in part because it's clear that he still cares, so there's an expectation of resolution of those feelings. Out of curiosity, which voice did you use? I thought Alix Wilton Regan (british) did a really good job of being emotional without overdoing it. Sumalee Montano (american) is less emotive.
 
It certainly has commonalities with the Morrigan romance.
 
He's an interesting character, yes. 

There are too many leading comments like "We can't, you'll see" and "I hope one day you understand." They're not finished with his story. If they are finished, we just burn Edmonton to the ground. lol

 

I do now feel for the Anders and Sebastian fans who were hoping for a DA2 expansion that never came. That would suck. I think there's less danger for DAI, though obviously anything could happen. PW could get hit by a bus, then Sheryl or Mary will take over the character and we'll be left drowning in a tub of our fangirl tears.

 

The voice acting is really good for the breakup scene on both sides. For the Inquisitor the lines "why not this one?" and for Solas, "I... can't" and "please, vhenan." Yep, I take the sobby options. Gotta do it. Solas holding his hands up as if to say "if I touch you one more time I won't be able to do this" gets me right there.

[Vorathrad]

Of course one does not need children to have a family; I have a pretty big one made of myboyfriend, me, our three cats and two guinea pigs I guess I just wanted to explore the mind of someone wanting a more "traditional" family, especially in the frame of a world so shaken up as Thedas. It's also not the only thing my Lavellan is interested in

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She's pretty set on building bridges between elves and humans, much as the Lavellan clan has been doing but on a larger scale and using the power of the Inquisition. Perhaps that's also why I don't picture her being paralyzed by the breakup: she has a big plan of her own.

RE: Coriphish

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I think most of the time he was kind of unconscious? He's pretty confused the first time he talks to Hawke; so his realizing that Tevinter as it was is gone and his desire to bring back its former glory must have come afterwards. Probably my bad memory is preventing me from recalling some lore or dialogue that contradicts this, but I get the feeling that the Foci plans are set in motion, or at least acted on, after the events of Legacy.

[Shari'El]

Divine Justinia, in the Fade, says "the Mark is part of you, it cannot be removed without your death." Something like that.

 

Yes! That rings a bell. I had an image of a chantry's robes so for some reason I thought it was Mother Giselle but that didn't make sense since I remembered someone more credible said that XD

[scintilla]

Divine Justinia, in the Fade, says "the Mark is part of you, it cannot be removed without your death." Something like that.
 

There are too many leading comments like "We can't, you'll see" and "I hope one day you understand." They're not finished with his story. If they are finished, we just burn Edmonton to the ground. lol

 

I do now feel for the Anders and Sebastian fans who were hoping for a DA2 expansion that never came. That would suck. I think there's less danger for DAI, though obviously anything could happen. PW could get hit by a bus, then Sheryl or Mary will take over the character and we'll be left drowning in a tub of our fangirl tears.

 

The voice acting is really good for the breakup scene on both sides. For the Inquisitor the lines "why not this one?" and for Solas, "I... can't" and "please, vhenan." Yep, I take the sobby options. Gotta do it. Solas holding his hands up as if to say "if I touch you one more time I won't be able to do this" gets me right there.

 

I definitely forgot about that.

 

His story is definitely not finished. I think the romance is though (I will gladly eat these words if proven wrong but *waves Team Pessimism flag*).

 

Of course one does not need children to have a family; I have a pretty big one made of myboyfriend, me, our three cats and two guinea pigs I guess I just wanted to explore the mind of someone wanting a more "traditional" family, especially in the frame of a world so shaken up as Thedas. It's also not the only thing my Lavellan is interested in

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She's pretty set on building bridges between elves and humans, much as the Lavellan clan has been doing but on a larger scale and using the power of the Inquisition. Perhaps that's also why I don't picture her being paralyzed by the breakup: she has a big plan of her own.

RE: Coriphish

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I think most of the time he was kind of unconscious? He's pretty confused the first time he talks to Hawke; so his realizing that Tevinter as it was is gone and his desire to bring back its former glory must have come afterwards. Probably my bad memory is preventing me from recalling some lore or dialogue that contradicts this, but I get the feeling that the Foci plans are set in motion, or at least acted on, after the events of Legacy.

 

Nothing wrong with creating a character that wants a traditional family. 

 

RE:Corypheus: Nope, you're right. Corypheus woke up confused that he wasn't in Ancient Tevinter. There's one theory out there that Solas gave the orb to him then. I guess my problem with that theory isn't that it has more holes than the "woke up recently" one but that there isn't a really good explanation for what Solas spent the next 1000+ years doing.

 

Basically, we need more information!

[Emerald Rift]

All of the dialog post game was kind of dull generally, maybe except that one line from Cole.

Anyhow, I just don't think they were surprised, it was known for quite some time it is permanent. Some one even said it (my brain is broken, I don't remember who, but it was someone with an opinion that matter so it's ok! [if some one remember who says that.. please help XD]), it's part of the Inquisitor.

Probably didn't feel the need to address it, OR didn't address for the sake of keeping a bit of the surprise (in case someone doesn't notice)?

 

I didn't realise someone mentioned it, I must have glossed over that conversation. I do hope they address it at one point later on. I need to know