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[BubbleDncr]

Don't remember if anyone's posted this yet, but this is my optimistic song for Lavellan and Solas. Which means it'll probably never happen...

 

 

Loved that movie.

[wildannie]

Yeah,I think dlc that expands upon what happens to Solas after the ending would appeal to many, not just those who had a romance with him in the game. More than being a companion-specific dlc, it would just be a continuation of the main story since Solas is one of the most important characters in the game. And everything occurs because of him. I think they left it ambiguous for that reason, it would be a wasted opportunity not to have post-game dlc. Especially since the main story is so damn short. 

 

And making a female PC LI so important to the plot is probably the only way female players would ever get to see a LI continuation in DLC  so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

[Adynata]

And making a female PC LI so important to the plot is probably the only way female players would ever get to see a LI continuation in DLC  so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

 

Afterall, the Morrigan people got their own DLC (the only one I haven't played), and the ladies have had nothing on par with that as of yet.

[NightSymphony]

*sighs* After 7 hours into my new game..I decided I don't like how my character looks, her nose bothers me...starting over...again. I hope they add something in a DLC where we can change the way our characters look...like they did in DA2...Black Emporium.

[BubbleDncr]

Afterall, the Morrigan people got their own DLC (the only one I haven't played), and the ladies have had nothing on par with that as of yet.

 

Hopefully it's better than Witch Hunt tho, cos that was kind of ****. Just a bunch of running through reused environments and then bugged in the end. The first time I played I stabbed her just because I was so frustrated with how shitty the dlc was.

[Uirebhiril]

Hopefully it's better than Witch Hunt tho, cos that was kind of ****. Just a bunch of running through reused environments and then bugged in the end. The first time I played I stabbed her just because I was so frustrated with how shitty the dlc was.

 

Somehow I doubt any DLC that has to do with exposition of what is potentially

Spoiler

the Dread Wolf

will be as shallow and lackluster as an add-on that lasted only a few hours. Or so I hope anyway.

[dragondreamer]

*sighs* After 7 hours into my new game..I decided I don't like how my character looks, her nose bothers me...starting over...again. I hope they add something in a DLC where we can change the way our characters look...like they did in DA2...Black Emporium.

 

I hear they're working on something like the mirror of transformation for DA:I.  So hopefully sooner or later.

[slmisfit]

Okay I thought this was pretty amazing, but others have told me it's all in my head and I'm an idiot. But I really think something like this would be intentional in DA:I, especially with Solas. 

 

 

 

So I guess until a dev confirms this I am officially an idiot of the internet.

Considering the frankly ridiculous amount of hints you start noticing once you know the truth, I honestly wouldn't put it past whoever created Solas's textures to stick a tiny little wolf and howling at a tiny little moon on his face and disguise it as a scar. lol

[dragondreamer]

Considering the frankly ridiculous amount of hints you start noticing once you know the truth, I honestly wouldn't put it past whoever created Solas's textures to stick a tiny little wolf and howling at a tiny little moon on his face and disguise it as a scar. lol

 

Even if it isn't, it makes for a cute headcanon.

[Korbin_Armand2]

Personally, I doubt that he's just dead.  Why bother breaking up with Lavellan, sketching out a last fresco in Skyhold, evading the Inquisition's agents, wiping Cole's memory of his destination, and seeking out Flemeth if he just wanted to die?  It would've been easier to just spike himself on one of Corypheus's head crystals or jump into a high dragon's stomach 

 

I think both Solas and Flemeth are still around in some form, but we just don't know enough from that short stinger to determine who has which body, and what souls are rattling around inside. 

 

 

And my reaction would be thus..

 

 

What a waste of an amazing character that would be, I can't see it myself. Honestly, if they shafted him like that I'd be done.

 

Something you both forget is that Mythal died, or was killed yet part of what she is remains. Remember what Sola said about his 'wisdom spirit' friend, that they are not truely dead.

I think whatever the Elvhen Pantheon is, they are beyond even what spirits are. Mythal isnt strong enough to survive another death, yet Solas is. Given his mistakes in the past, his ones lately he'd not risk Mythal at all, so we've not seen last of him, though I think the price he paid for his mistake with the Orb is that he can take a body, nor form himself. What he truely is hasnt passed nor who he is either, just reduced to a 'whisp' of what he once was, and like Mythal will take time to return or even join with another to semi return.

[Adynata]

It is a pretty unique little scar, so I wouldn't rule it out.

[BlackCat]

And making a female PC LI so important to the plot is probably the only way female players would ever get to see a LI continuation in DLC  so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. 

 

Especially since (I think) we're the only ones who have no choice in the outcome of the romance. He breaks it off and leaves, while other LI's talk about how they're going to be together afterwards. I chose Cullen as an LI the first time, and really like his romance as well. But it’s kind of disappointing to see how little content Solas has compared to Cullen. No sex scene is fine, but there isn’t even an option to kiss him whenever we’d like. I hope Bioware keeps this in mind for the future  

[Jaderail]

Afterall, the Morrigan people got their own DLC (the only one I haven't played), and the ladies have had nothing on par with that as of yet.

 

Also, it seems like they tried to make up for "lack" of romanceable male companions from all their past games this time around, making more options for female inquisitor than male. I feel like they are really trying to balance it out, and honestly I don't know why they'd stop with Solas. I have a hard time believing Bioware would leave us hanging like that. I watched the scene after Corypheus, just before the celebration again and I got this feeling when my quizzy said "He didn't even say goodbye" that it's just added drama and that we *will* be seeing him again.

 

I dunno, maybe I'm just in the optimistic part of denial right now.

[madrar]

Solas wants to restore what was; he wants everyone to see how magic is not to be feared. I mean isn't that one of his dreams, where spirits and people coexist? I wonder if Solas is actually some sort of spirit himself, sort of like Cole. I wouldn't be surprised if he was even the Maker himself (that would be pretty crazy but it also makes sense to me at the moment), trying to make his past actions right. The way he can talk through Cole after the final battle, and also make him forget is ...I dunno. Weird.

Morrigan said in the Temple that the dread old gods 'rise as archdemons, and they die'. So, could Solas, as the Maker, have actually sealed the old gods underground, turning them into archdemons? Which might explain why Solas decided to give the orb to Cory in the first place since he is an ancient darkspawn, and also explain's Kieran's old god soul from the archdemon killed in Origins. It would also explain why Solas hates the wardens so much.

[snip snip snip]

Ahhh, theres so much here, and I have no time. Much of this is true, but I think it goes off track a bit in a few places.

First, Solas cannot be exactly the same sort of being as Cole is: a pure, reactionary spirit made real, because such spirits cannot have existed before reality did, and we know with quite a bit of certainty that Solas existed in the pre-veil world. There are certainly similarities, and I believe that Cole may be a theoretical step toward recreating or reclaiming that kind of existence, but they are not quite the same.

Second, far as Solas being the Maker... this is debatable, and largely a matter of perspective. There are at least three onion-like layers to the term, so defining which one you're talking about matters a great deal.

The most proximate to the game is the literal Andrastean Maker as described in the Chant of Light. Personally I have little doubt at this point that Solas and Mythal were co-conspirators in coordinating the Tevinter slave rebellion and subsequent initial construction of the Chant and rise of the Andrastean religion. The Maker, in that context, is a carefully crafted fiction: half truth, half engineered to align with his concept of what should have happened and how things ought to be: a comforting Maker-loves-you-and-your-free-will message intended to stabilize and guide a new generation, acting as a counter and guard against opposing forces pulling society toward absolute Order and the tyranny, hierarchy, and cruelty inherent in it.

I'm in deep left field with all that, I know. There's not much direct support and it could be a giant red herring, but it's tough to ignore how well the pieces seem to fit.

Anyway. That said, he is almost certainly responsible for various actions attributed to the Maker, particularly where such things overlap and blur with Dalish myths of Fen'Harel and locking away the "old gods". That's been well chewed over at this point, so I won't waste space here.

To follow that up, The weight of available evidence suggests Solas is not "in league" with the arch demons, as you suggest. Their destruction at the hands of gray wardens distresses him, yes, but we have reason to believe his motives are more nuanced than that. They are his original People, and perhaps he believes they can be salvaged. Perhaps they are unwittingly fulfilling the archdemons' ultimate objective by combining them with moral men, and releasing them to a post-fade existence. It's yet unclear.

In the same vein, it beggars belief that Solas would willingly give his orb to darkspawn!Corypheus, given his extremely pronounced views on Blight magic as "unnatural", "wrong" and "poisoned", and the alternative timeline where that handoff occurs in ancient Tevinter seems far more consistent and satisfying. (Again, written up in far more detail elsewhere, so won't take up space here.)

[BubbleDncr]

Also, it seems like they tried to make up for "lack" of romanceable male companions from all their past games this time around, making more options for female inquisitor than male. I feel like they are really trying to balance it out, and honestly I don't know why they'd stop with Solas. I have a hard time believing Bioware would leave us hanging like that. I watched the scene after Corypheus, just before the celebration again and I got this feeling when my quizzy said "He didn't even say goodbye" that it's just added drama and that we *will* be seeing him again.

 

I dunno, maybe I'm just in the optimistic part of denial right now.

 

There needs to be some form of closure coming - otherwise its bad storytelling. It doesn't necessarily mean that our Lavellans will get happy endings or ever reunite with Solas, but I feel like even if our Lavellan's don't get closure, we fans will. If that makes sense.

[madrar]

Oh! Also going to retouch on an earlier issue quickly. To me, what makes Solas' contribution to that Wonderful Life banter with Cole so utterly gut wrenching isn't just that he's grim and fatalistic enough to conceive of the worst possible interpretation of the movie. That's bad enough, but if you assume he knows why Cole brings up the subject and understands that they are indirectly discussing his own story, (entirely possible) then the takeaway is that Solas explicitly does not believe that a path of redemption exists for him, and would dismiss any events that ought to convince him of the contrary as wishful self-delusion.

Granted, that's an assumption that isn't founded on much more than "it's Solas, and he seems to get how Cole works and is similarly able to access and process meta knowledge others can't", but it would go a long way toward explaining how resistant he is to allowing the hope he sees in Lavellan to alter his course. Not only is she the unwitting lure in a trap of Pride as discussed earlier, but even the dream of enacting positive change would be fundamentally illusory- saving a people who are not Real- and thus would not redeem him.

Given that, what would be the point of trying?

*wanders into the pillow fort, curls into a ball under the covers*

It's also an opportunity for the writers to nudge us again about the "true veil": the one between the game-world-as-Fade and us, but that whole mess will have to wait until I'm back at a real computer and not hunting and pecking at touchscreens. =w=

[Tabitha Jane]

Best that I could do with a mouse and keyboard.
 

Spoiler

This looks like an ex boyfriend I had once.

[kalasaurus]

Add this to the Solas playlist:

 

 

Spoiler

I'm standing alone on the cliffs of the world

No one ever tends to me
Sitting alone, covered in rays
Some things are so my mind can breath

Waiting is hard, ****** takes so long
Draped in sun, hands in sand
Earth acid cleanses me, cleanses me clean
But the world it never comes

It never comes
It never comes
It never comes

I lay on my side in the edge of the room
She never expects anything from me
When all the days, the days of the year
I know I miss that part of me

Waiting is hard, ****** takes so long
Draped in sun, hands in sand
Earth acid cleanses me, cleanses me clean
But the world it never comes

It never comes
It never comes
It never comes
It never comes
It never comes

[RebbyWriter]

So...

 

Have you noticed that where other character threads began with a bunch of questions that were later answered we are a thread that has been given a pile of more unanswered questions? Will the madness ever end!?

[Jaderail]

There needs to be some form of closure coming - otherwise its bad storytelling. It doesn't necessarily mean that our Lavellans will get happy endings or ever reunite with Solas, but I feel like even if our Lavellan's don't get closure, we fans will. If that makes sense.

 

Agreed. As it is, there was not enough closure there for me to feel completely satisfied, albeit it is definitely a great place for a cliffhanger. I think Bioware learned their lesson with Thane, but the thing about the Thane romance was that there was closure - despite being depressing. 

[TheLastArchivist]

Could this be related to Solas in any way (since he's a traitor of sorts)? 

 

 

It's the translation of what one of the voices in the Well of Sorrows says after you drink from it.

Its written in the Codex.

 

(Someone posted it in the Cullen thread. Idk if this entry's already been discussed here, but there it is.)

[TheLastArchivist]

He took on a form reserved to the gods.

He dared to fly

He took wings.

 

A dragon?

[madrar]

My god. I never noticed the wolf-orb scar. @w@ Kudos to whoever made that gif.

If we're not simply seeing things, there's definitely something suspicious about this in the context of the sunburst used for the rite of tranquility, made even more so when you consider evidence that the Chant's original tone, purpose and connection to a watery Mythal seems to have been perverted by an opposing order-centric influence that replaces her nature wholesale with embracing fire (the sun) and absolute obedience to the Chant.

Hmm. I've got to think about this for a bit.

[Brass_Buckles]

He took on a form reserved to the gods.

He dared to fly

He took wings.

 

A dragon?

 

I figure all the Creators/elven pantheon could turn into dragons.  Since Solas was considered neither among the Creators nor the Forgotten Ones as Fen'harel, it stands to reason that he was considered godly for some reason--he could become a dragon, too?

 

Of course, a winged shape doesn't necessarily equal "dragon."  What if he took the form of, say, a griffon?
 

(Assuming it's even Solas at all, but then he is known as a traitor.  Perhaps he needed to take that form for whatever reason?  Maybe the person who thought he and Ghilan'nain were an item at some point might be right?)

[Rabbitonfire]

Could this be related to Solas in any way (since he's a traitor of sorts)? 

 

 

It's the translation of what one of the voices in the Well of Sorrows says after you drink from it.

Its written in the Codex.

 

(Someone posted it in the Cullen thread. Idk if this entry's already been discussed here, but there it is.)

Abelas already said the dread wolf had nothing to do with betrayal. And it's already pointed out that it's Dirthamen. This is assumed to be what Dirthamen looks like: