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[Illyria]

Solas is opinionated about a lot. So the way he acts about magic and whatnot is also how he talks about other races/cultures. 

 

If youre on a rivalry path with him, he will call humans 'thugs' for example. But a lot of it is more about proper culture and how 'things used to be'. Like his dislike of Sera, or how he sees dwarven culture. But when he talks to someone like Varric, who can prove a point about not being slave to traditions one does not understand, he will gracefully concede.

 

In a way, he is elitist far more then racist and starts with a very low opinion of people and the way things are. His bar for 'worthiness' is set pretty high, youd think hes been around since a thousand years...

 

I don't see that as him being 'racist', more it being very difficult to trust people and understand them.  He spends most of his time (which is probably 2000+ years) hanging out with spirits who all embody one trait.  It can't be easy to deal with people people after that.

[RynJ]

I'm one of the people who exaggerates sometimes but that's mostly pushing back against people who make Solas out to be a better person than he is. I really don't like the idea that his interaction with Sera is him trying to "fix" his mistake or that questioning her identity is an act of benevolence (he may see it that way but that doesn't make it true). Interacting with Sera is one of those places where Solas is kind of a dick and that doesn't need justification; he doesn't need to be a martyr, hopelessly trying to help all the wayward sheep to be so much better than they are. He can be a dick and do unkind things and still be a good character that it's okay to like.

 

Agreed here. I mean, given that there are things that Solas was less than upfront about, I can understand questioning. I just don't see any evidence in game that he's the kind of person who would do something like that. Yeah, an entire game's worth of character development would be wasted if he was just faking everything. Since we can't say how much of a presence he will have in the future (he's got to be dealt with somehow, I think, but that doesn't mean he'll be around much), it would really be a big waste. I also don't think the Dragon Age team would have put in a romance that was pure manipulation without making that explicitly clear to the player.

 

Sera and Solas are dicks to each other. I don't like it when people justify it either way, and yet people always try to. I feel like some try to go too far either way. Either Solas is a terrible person or does no wrong, though I honestly see the former much more than the latter. Most people don't and can't ignore Solas' flaws, since they're pretty glaring.

[caridounette]

I also don't think the Dragon Age team would have put in a romance that was pure manipulation without making that explicitly clear to the player.

 

Thats where Im at. The romance to me is actually the only thing that is entirely true (or 'unmotived' for those who dont like thinking Solas lies by omission all the time). Thats why it kinda had to stop. The conditions under which it evolved werent right.

 

Also 'The People' could be all the elves, or the ancient elves, but it could very wll be spirits too. If you dont take the romance option in the Haven convo about spirits, solas will go about all the ways spirits are in fact people even if they got no body or free will... Hes pretty strongly positioned on that.

[NeverlandHunter]

According to an interview with Mike Laidlaw Mark Darrah, new areas to explore are very likely. I'm not sure about temporary companions but that may be necessary, since some people may have never recruited or driven away quite a few companions.

If the DLC is meant to be played after the end of the game we'll probably see some mention of Solas at least. If it can be played at any point, there may be cryptic codex entries instead of anything that actually furthers the plot.

Blehhhh. I don't want anymore mini sandboxes. I know this sounds spoiled buuut I really did enjoy all the scenery in the beginning.
I was like aaahhh this is so awesome and so lovely and look Solas I can jump! (Solas was eyeballing my inquisitor as she continually hopped around onto rocks and off of ledges). But then I kept playing and playing and my Lavellan was like "yo, why do I have to run around all these wild places I'm the leader of the Inquisition and the supposed Herald of Andraste?" And I told her to shut her ungrateful face and watch out for corpses in the mire... But then she crossed her hands and told me that with Solas gone (and the promise of new romance scenes) she didn't feel like doing anything anymore. So I told her to go play with her friends and she told me that she already finished up their quests and used up all their dialogue.... Uh...wow I just realized how empty this game feels now. Especially since there aren't anymore cutscenes (no more right?) So I'm supposed to keep playing without ever seeing my Lavellan's lovely face anymore.
Hmmm. I like replaying as new characters (goodbye Ithilia"ungrateful "Lavellan" and hello Maeve Trevelyan) but the maps are a bit overwhelming and how many times have I done that stupid druffalo quest?! No more!!! It is waaay too slow!!
In my humble über fan opinion I would prefer any money going into DLCs be put into neat mini-plots (Solaaaaas) and any new maps be made noooot be nature. My Lavellan might enjoy getting molested by a bear every 10 yards but I want cities! Or towns at the least! It almost makes me miss Kirkwall, but seriously anymore beautiful mountain scenery and I might throw up, I want people interaction. More people interaction, more cut scenes, more banter, more wicked grace meet ups, more romance *.*.
Haha I'm a spoiled fan! I can never have enough DA!! More more more for me please!!!

[Gervaise]

I do believe he genuinely loves her but has an odd way of showing it.   However, that may come from the fact that he has lived alone and seems a bit broken as well, plus he comes from a completely different era when elves were immortal, so could take a very long view of things.   The thing is, the reason I stuck with him is because of that grave stone in the Fade.   His biggest fear was "dying alone".   After seeing that there was no way she was going to abandon him, which is why it seemed all that more inexplicable (to her) why he went off the way he did.   If you fear dying alone, then share your troubles with me.    With the immediate danger past it is not as though I couldn't give a bit of time and effort to helping him.   

 

Where I think he was being manipulative is how every time you ask him about himself, he finds a way of deflecting it, the first time by hinting about his feelings, leading to that first kiss.    You notice that in banter with others as well.   He says something which strikes the listener as odd, given his cover story, but he finds as way of saving the situation.   When you query something he says, like him saying the events of Halamshiral bring back memories, you get a disapproval flag and then he covers by way of referencing what he has seen in the Fade, which I knew was a lie or why the disapproval?      At the end of the day, if he admires Lavellan so much why can't he be a bit more honest with her, even if he needs to stop short of revealing exactly who he is.     To say all those wonderful things before removing her Vallaslin and then almost straight after dismiss her the way he did was hurtful.   Then she can confront him yet again and again be given false promises.    Once you do know who he really is, it makes a deal of sense, but she doesn't.   

[Obadiah]

So I guess this means Kate Mulgrew's incarnation of Flemeth is gone?

 

...or will Mythal's (whatever happened) with The Dread Wolf change Solas somehow?

[BubbleDncr]

Blehhhh. I don't want anymore mini sandboxes. I know this sounds spoiled buuut I really did enjoy all the scenery in the beginning.
I was like aaahhh this is so awesome and so lovely and look Solas I can jump! (Solas was eyeballing my inquisitor as she continually hopped around onto rocks and off of ledges). But then I kept playing and playing and my Lavellan was like "yo, why do I have to run around all these wild places I'm the leader of the Inquisition and the supposed Herald of Andraste?" And I told her to shut her ungrateful face and watch out for corpses in the mire... But then she crossed her hands and told me that with Solas gone (and the promise of new romance scenes) she didn't feel like doing anything anymore. So I told her to go play with her friends and she told me that she already finished up their quests and used up all their dialogue.... Uh...wow I just realized how empty this game feels now. Especially since there aren't anymore cutscenes (no more right?) So I'm supposed to keep playing without ever seeing my Lavellan's lovely face anymore.
Hmmm. I like replaying as new characters (goodbye Ithilia"ungrateful "Lavellan" and hello Maeve Trevelyan) but the maps are a bit overwhelming and how many times have I done that stupid druffalo quest?! No more!!! It is waaay too slow!!
In my humble über fan opinion I would prefer any money going into DLCs be put into neat mini-plots (Solaaaaas) and any new maps be made noooot be nature. My Lavellan might enjoy getting molested by a bear every 10 yards but I want cities! Or towns at the least! It almost makes me miss Kirkwall, but seriously anymore beautiful mountain scenery and I might throw up, I want people interaction. More people interaction, more cut scenes, more banter, more wicked grace meet ups, more romance *.*.
Haha I'm a spoiled fan! I can never have enough DA!! More more more for me please!!!

 

Unfortunately, I think a city is the last place we should be looking for Solas. Unless that's the point, and he's been intentionally hanging out in cities cos he knows we won't look there!

 

Otherwise, I kind of expected each DLC will be a new "open world" location. Just makes sense with how the've set up the rest of the game - if they just made it the size of an operation, I'd be kind of pissed - I think all the operations in DA:I could be completed in 1-2 hours? And all the DA2 DLC was closer to 3-4 hours long. 

[Aetheria]

So I guess this means Kate Mulgrew's incarnation of Flemeth is gone?

 

...or will Mythal's (whatever happened) with The Dread Wolf change Solas somehow?

Well, it is possible that Flemeth now owns Solas' body but still has Kate Mulgrew's voice. Not sure whether that would be disturbing or hilarious. o.o

[RynJ]

I do believe he genuinely loves her but has an odd way of showing it.   However, that may come from the fact that he has lived alone and seems a bit broken as well, plus he comes from a completely different era when elves were immortal, so could take a very long view of things.   The thing is, the reason I stuck with him is because of that grave stone in the Fade.   His biggest fear was "dying alone".   After seeing that there was no way she was going to abandon him, which is why it seemed all that more inexplicable (to her) why he went off the way he did.   If you fear dying alone, then share your troubles with me.    With the immediate danger past it is not as though I couldn't give a bit of time and effort to helping him.   

 

Where I think he was being manipulative is how every time you ask him about himself, he finds a way of deflecting it, the first time by hinting about his feelings, leading to that first kiss.    You notice that in banter with others as well.   He says something which strikes the listener as odd, given his cover story, but he finds as way of saving the situation.   When you query something he says, like him saying the events of Halamshiral bring back memories, you get a disapproval flag and then he covers by way of referencing what he has seen in the Fade, which I knew was a lie or why the disapproval?      At the end of the day, if he admires Lavellan so much why can't he be a bit more honest with her, even if he needs to stop short of revealing exactly who he is.     To say all those wonderful things before removing her Vallaslin and then almost straight after dismiss her the way he did was hurtful.   Then she can confront him yet again and again be given false promises.    Once you do know who he really is, it makes a deal of sense, but she doesn't.   

 

He doesn't want you to know, I imagine, because what he's planning isn't good for you. Or anyone in modern Thedas. I think that's the "sacrifice" that pops up every now and then and why he internally freaks out about finding potential in modern Thedas, which is how I interpret Cole's mind-reading lines after the romance ends. If he shared his troubles, you'd probably try to stop him. Or maybe you'd join him and be doomed too.

 

I actually think he's weirdly honest, when I think back on it. He roundabout gave you a lot of information about who he is, was, and what he might do in the future. Knowing what Solas is, it's difficult for me to be hurt or angry on my Lavellan's behalf. Everything he hid or did made a lot more sense and I wasn't really offended by it. Annoyed and worried, sure, but that's mostly about what on earth that stupid elf is going to bring down on Thedas in the future not because he wouldn't tell my Lavellan anything. Though that's just me, and people are perfectly justified to be irritated by his treatment of Lavellan. Also, did he promise anything to us? Was it the "all will be made clear" thing? I don't really consider that a promise, though he might have planned on letting the cat out of the bag had the orb not gone all cracky crack.

[NightSymphony]

I've played the beginning of this game so many times in the past week, trying to make the perfect character for Solas to love. You can tell he cares about her in the first hour of the game. The look of concern on his face when her hand hurts her, standing there at the forward camp, talking about using the mountain trail or charging in with the soldiers. He's standing in the background, looking at her as she grabs her hand in pain, and you can see how bad he feels for her. This was all his fault.

[scintilla]

 

Sera and Solas are dicks to each other. I don't like it when people justify it either way, and yet people always try to. I feel like some try to go too far either way. Either Solas is a terrible person or does no wrong, though I honestly see the former much more than the latter. Most people don't and can't ignore Solas' flaws, since they're pretty glaring.

 

Yeah, they're both equally guilty and I don't like either being held up as "right" in their treatment of the other. They're both dicks. Yeah, there are people who go too far in both directions. I must hang out in the different parts of fandom than you because I see far more people trying to absolve Solas of all his flaws than I do people calling him irredeemably awful. He's a complex character, I don't like seeing him reduced to being perfect or to being pure evil.

 

So I guess this means Kate Mulgrew's incarnation of Flemeth is gone?

 

...or will Mythal's (whatever happened) with The Dread Wolf change Solas somehow?

 

We just don't know. She may have another amulet like the one she's resurrected from in DA2 somewhere.

 

I doubt they're getting rid of Solas, since he's a new. It would be sort of a waste of effort with DAI if they were just going to toss him aside.

[caridounette]

Sera and Solas are dicks to each other. I don't like it when people justify it either way, and yet people always try to. I feel like some try to go too far either way. Either Solas is a terrible person or does no wrong, though I honestly see the former much more than the latter. Most people don't and can't ignore Solas' flaws, since they're pretty glaring.

 

Solas having flaws is actually what makes him a romancable character in my eyes. It takes him away from godhood and makes him human. He makes mistakes, he needs helps, he can be surprised... that makes it possible for him to connect with others, and for others to connect with him. If just a very little bit. If he was the always right, omnicient, type the story would be pretty short.

[couslandia]

I really don't think Solas' entire personality was a front. I just honestly don't see any evidence for it in the game.  Like people have said, if he was trying to be ingratiating to the Inquisition he did a terrible job, given how much he can disapprove and yell at you about what you do. His purpose was to reclaim the orb, and he certainly lies/evades, but I wouldn't necessarily say he outright manipulates you. Plus, all the power of his story comes from his transformation from an outsider into a friend or lover, and the internal battle between loyalty to his goal and loyalty to the Inquisitor. Him being just a manipulative narcissist would be really... boring.

 

So given what I think happened in the ending (Solas/Fen'Harel "absorbs" Flemythal?), how do you think Solas' personality will be affected?  Will it be a multiple personality situation, or did he just absorb her 'power'? I'm leaning towards the latter, a little selfishly... it would be pretty weird for my Lavellan to have Morrigan's mom chilling out in Solas's head, as much as I love Kate Mulgrew! My interpretation is that he needed her power because he no longer had the power of the orb-- the Inquisitor did, and he wasn't willing to involve him/her in what he needed to do. In a weird way, he's both very selfish and selfless.

[Addai]

I agree, he was using the Quizzy, and the Inquisition to find the orb, and maybe as cover for own plans, but the relationship seems unexpected, and he is surprised when she turns out not to be what he thought. I think he probably expected the Quizzy to be more antagonistic, or possible enemy. But when she turns out to be more curious and thoughtful with a nuanced approach to leading, he becomes conflicted and starts to actually respect her.

Are people honestly questioning if he wanted only to recover the orb? He gives approval early on every time you talk about the Breach being the most important thing. I think he wants to undo what he did, and hopes to recover the orb at the same time. Many of your allies have things they hope to gain from helping you- self respect, power, a chance to put an old life behind, restoring the Chantry. It doesn't mean they're manipulating you. Solas withholds information, but I think his wish to help is sincere.

[Aetheria]

He doesn't want you to know, I imagine, because what he's planning isn't good for you. Or anyone in modern Thedas. I think that's the "sacrifice" that pops up every now and then and why he internally freaks out about finding potential in modern Thedas, which is how I interpret Cole's mind-reading lines after the romance ends. If he shared his troubles, you'd probably try to stop him. Or maybe you'd join him and be doomed too.

 

I actually think he's weirdly honest, when I think back on it. He roundabout gave you a lot of information about who he is, was, and what he might do in the future. Knowing what Solas is, it's difficult for me to be hurt or angry on my Lavellan's behalf. Everything he hid or did made a lot more sense and I wasn't really offended by it. Annoyed and worried, sure, but that's mostly about what on earth that stupid elf is going to bring down on Thedas in the future not because he wouldn't tell my Lavellan anything. Though that's just me, and people are perfectly justified to be irritated by his treatment of Lavellan. Also, did he promise anything to us? Was it the "all will be made clear" thing? I don't really consider that a promise, though he might have planned on letting the cat out of the bag had the orb not gone all cracky crack.

Yeah, I definitely got the impression that whatever he was planning, it wasn't going to be something that the Inquisition as a whole would like. Otherwise why all the sadface and "sacrifice for the greater good" and attempts to convince himself that everyone in modern Thedas is an ungrateful moron?

 

The line about "all will be made clear" sounds pretty much like "all will be made clear... when I blow up the entire world in a misguided attempt to change the course of history". D:

[Shari'El]

Blehhhh. I don't want anymore mini sandboxes. I know this sounds spoiled buuut I really did enjoy all the scenery in the beginning.
I was like aaahhh this is so awesome and so lovely and look Solas I can jump! (Solas was eyeballing my inquisitor as she continually hopped around onto rocks and off of ledges). But then I kept playing and playing and my Lavellan was like "yo, why do I have to run around all these wild places I'm the leader of the Inquisition and the supposed Herald of Andraste?" And I told her to shut her ungrateful face and watch out for corpses in the mire... But then she crossed her hands and told me that with Solas gone (and the promise of new romance scenes) she didn't feel like doing anything anymore. So I told her to go play with her friends and she told me that she already finished up their quests and used up all their dialogue.... Uh...wow I just realized how empty this game feels now. Especially since there aren't anymore cutscenes (no more right?) So I'm supposed to keep playing without ever seeing my Lavellan's lovely face anymore.
Hmmm. I like replaying as new characters (goodbye Ithilia"ungrateful "Lavellan" and hello Maeve Trevelyan) but the maps are a bit overwhelming and how many times have I done that stupid druffalo quest?! No more!!! It is waaay too slow!!
In my humble über fan opinion I would prefer any money going into DLCs be put into neat mini-plots (Solaaaaas) and any new maps be made noooot be nature. My Lavellan might enjoy getting molested by a bear every 10 yards but I want cities! Or towns at the least! It almost makes me miss Kirkwall, but seriously anymore beautiful mountain scenery and I might throw up, I want people interaction. More people interaction, more cut scenes, more banter, more wicked grace meet ups, more romance *.*.
Haha I'm a spoiled fan! I can never have enough DA!! More more more for me please!!!

 

Exactly my feelings! Especially the part about the jumping.

And how it feels empty without Solas. And how I always return to my other companions in hope for new dialog but ... nope.

 

 

 

Ugh BioWare,

[caridounette]

Are people honestly questioning if he wanted only to recover the orb? He gives approval early on every time you talk about the Breach being the most important thing. I think he wants to undo what he did, and hopes to recover the orb at the same time. Many of your allies have things they hope to gain from helping you- self respect, power, a chance to put an old life behind, restoring the Chantry. It doesn't mean they're manipulating you. Solas withholds information, but I think his wish to help is sincere.

 

I dunno... I think his endgoal is to find the orb and the Inquisition is the best way to do that and help at the same time. Its like his convo about taking steps you do not dislike to go the places you want to be. Its his whole 'side benefit' mentality.

 

Closing the Breach might also always have been on his agenda, specially if he got the orb back and could do it himself. 

 

I believe his approval of helping others is true. But it might not come from the same place as say Varric or Sera who want things back to normal for normal people. What he may be approving of is if you create a group like the Inquisition, it should be helping those in need and not ignoring them. He is always warry of groups starting with good intentions and then going off path (be cause thats always waht happens in the long term)

[Brass_Buckles]

OR, he approves of the Quizzy helping others and being nice because that would be easier to get the Quizzy to help him or control.  The best kind of manipulators are the ones you don't think capable.

 

He's also amazingly racist, think he could have stomached romancing other races?

 

Why would the writers go out of their way to make a false personality for him?

 

In-game, your Inquisitor has no way of knowing that doing things like that even makes him happy, unless he actually says so (and he doesn't always).  He wouldn't become closer to you for doing things to help others, and further away from you when you are closed-minded/do things like recruit the Wardens, if he didn't really have honest-to-goodness emotions about those things, one way or another.

 

Solas is far from perfect.  Yes, he's got some issues with the other races, too--but he's not "amazingly racist."  He frowns on modern elves as much as he does everyone else.  The problem is that, since he is from a couple thousand years ago, he knows the potential everyone has.  And I think he's the one who caused that potential to become lesser (in his estimation) than what it once was.  That's why he's so set on fixing it.

 

As for his plans... they are clearly dangerous, and that's why he doesn't want the Inquisitor involved.  I'm not sure that he thinks the Inquisitor would disagree, necessarily--you've proven yourself open-minded and caring or you wouldn't have gotten his approval enough to be in a relationship with him in the first place.  I think the problem is he might believe you actually want to help him, and that causes issues for him.  For one, it's too dangerous for Lavellan.  This is something he has to do alone.  And also... whatever happens, he's probably going to have to give up on their relationship anyway.  Maybe not even necessarily for Lavellan's safety, but because of whatever obligation or sacrifice he has to make to achieve his goals.  Or maybe because he will have to help rebuild the elven empire and bumping bits with Lavellan isn't going to further that goal because she's not Elvhen the way his people were Elvhen, no matter how much he loves her.

 

We don't know.

 

As for romancing other races... if not for the need to deal with elven culture and vallaslin, I think he could have.  For story reasons, it doesn't work.  However, given time to become more open-minded about other races?  Sure, he could have--the only possible reason not to being he simply doesn't want non-elf children, and I'd say that's actually pretty valid since we are learning there are quite a few things special about the elves as a race--things they've mostly lost.  Just would not be possible in the scope of DA:I--he immediately was closer to an elf than anyone else.  But, since he's probably never going to be a party member again, and since he has already been a romance in DA:I, that option will never open up no matter how comfortable he eventually becomes with the non-elves.  He can be closed-minded about certain things, but he is always willing to admit when someone else has a point or when he is flat-out wrong about something.

 

Edit:  And back to the topic of his goal...

 

We all tend to assume the worst about whatever it is he has planned, but we know that even if he is dropping the Veil, he's doing it in such a way that it won't be instantly catastrophic.  He wants the Breach and the rifts to be closed--they harm people and they harm spirits.  If he's waking the Forgotten Ones, well, as someone pointed out, Cole said they were hiding and hurting, not that they were angry and vengeful about being locked away.

[Shari'El]

So given what I think happened in the ending (Solas/Fen'Harel "absorbs" Flemythal?), how do you think Solas' personality will be affected?  Will it be a multiple personality situation, or did he just absorb her 'power'? I'm leaning towards the latter, a little selfishly... it would be pretty weird for my Lavellan to have Morrigan's mom chilling out in Solas's head, as much as I love Kate Mulgrew! My interpretation is that he needed her power because he no longer had the power of the orb-- the Inquisitor did, and he wasn't willing to involve him/her in what he needed to do. In a weird way, he's both very selfish and selfless.

 

That is entirely how I feel, I want him to have her powers, otherwise I feel things might get awkward D

[Addai]

So I guess this means Kate Mulgrew's incarnation of Flemeth is gone?
 
...or will Mythal's (whatever happened) with The Dread Wolf change Solas somehow?

You can kill her in Origins and yet here she is. The same ritual used to transport her spirit from Ferelden to Kirkwall might be used again, assuming Solas is only acting as a temporary vessel (that's a big if, of course). I wouldn't count Flemeth out for anything.
 
Solas even tells a story about her cabin that was abandoned for years and the Chasind wouldn't go near it because they knew she'd be back.

I dunno... I think his endgoal is to find the orb and the Inquisition is the best way to do that and help at the same time. Its like his convo about taking steps you do not dislike to go the places you want to be. Its his whole 'side benefit' mentality.

Closing the Breach might also always have been on his agenda, specially if he got the orb back and could do it himself.

I believe his approval of helping others is true. But it might not come from the same place as say Varric or Sera who want things back to normal for normal people. What he may be approving of is if you create a group like the Inquisition, it should be helping those in need and not ignoring them. He is always warry of groups starting with good intentions and then going off path (be cause thats always waht happens in the long term)

He's very determined to stop Corypheus. Assuming he wants to tear down the Veil, he might not have been so worried about the Breach as he was about the orb, but that's because he would see repairing the Veil as a temporary solution whereas if he had his mojo back, he could get rid of the root of the problem.

Anyone think all those spheres we're activating are actually going to be used for something else eventually?

[Shari'El]

The line about "all will be made clear" sounds pretty much like "all will be made clear... when I blow up the entire world in a misguided attempt to change the course of history". D:

 

Anders......

 

[Brass_Buckles]

Yeah, I definitely got the impression that whatever he was planning, it wasn't going to be something that the Inquisition as a whole would like. Otherwise why all the sadface and "sacrifice for the greater good" and attempts to convince himself that everyone in modern Thedas is an ungrateful moron?

 

The line about "all will be made clear" sounds pretty much like "all will be made clear... when I blow up the entire world in a misguided attempt to change the course of history". D:

 

I don't think it's anything that dire, but he did promise if you asked to talk later that all would be made clear.  He promised.  And yet, nothing was made clear because his orb broke.  Poor puppy, he needs a new ball to play with now.  We didn't have any doggy treats to bribe him with so he'd follow us back home to Skyhold.  No one warned us we needed one of those wireless fences to keep Solas in the yard...

 

Anyway, I think the sad ending has made us all a little prone to depressive theories and negativity.

 

I prefer to think that if there is something terrible he's planning, we'll be able to stop him without killing him, and maybe he and Lavellan will even be able to be together again, despite it all.

 

More likely, what he's planning won't be terrible at all, but what other people do as a result will be the future problem.  Remember Sandal's prophecy about the magic coming back?  All of it?  For everyone?  Even the dwarves?  Yeah, that kind of world would be awesome--everyone has magic in the next game, maybe, in some form or another?  But it would also be potentially disastrous, not because of what Solas had done but because of what other people would do with their newfound abilities.

[Aetheria]

More likely, what he's planning won't be terrible at all, but what other people do as a result will be the future problem.  Remember Sandal's prophecy about the magic coming back?  All of it?  For everyone?  Even the dwarves?  Yeah, that kind of world would be awesome--everyone has magic in the next game, maybe, in some form or another?  But it would also be potentially disastrous, not because of what Solas had done but because of what other people would do with their newfound abilities.

Sounds pretty plausible as a source of conflict on which to base a future game, since the mage-templar thing seems to have run its course. Only thing is, that makes me think that the storyline involving Solas will continue in the next DA game rather than DLC and so won't involve the Inquisitor.

[TheComfyCat]

I agree that Solas is not trying to manipulate the inquisitor. He hides his true motivations (like many of your companions), but he's not even a very good liar. He keeps using the same lie about the Fade, even when it's not a very good excuse. Like when you ask him why he was so comfortable in the Winter Palace, and he's like, "Uhhhhh..... the Fade. Yeah, the Fade."

 

He's very forthright with his opinions. He doesn't try to manipulate the inquisitor into doing things his way- he states his opinion and reasoning, then lets the inquisitor make up their own mind. If you choose an option he disagrees with, you can even gain some approval back if you offer sound reasoning for your decision. And many of his responses are emotional when you're talking about a topic he feels strongly about. That makes me think he's even a little impulsive in sharing his opinions, like he can't stand to hear the conversation continue without explaining his stance (and why he's right). For example, he can't help but argue about the Qun with Gatt during Bull's personal quest. That type of response makes me think he's generally a very genuine person, at least with how he interacts with others. He's obviously hiding a lot about himself, but while he is hiding his true identity (Fen'Harel), I don't think he's hiding who he really is as a person.

[Shari'El]

I don't think it's anything that dire, but he did promise if you asked to talk later that all would be made clear.  He promised.  And yet, nothing was made clear because his orb broke.  Poor puppy, he needs a new ball to play with now.  We didn't have any doggy treats to bribe him with so he'd follow us back home to Skyhold.  No one warned us we needed one of those wireless fences to keep Solas in the yard...

 

Anyway, I think the sad ending has made us all a little prone to depressive theories and negativity.

 

I prefer to think that if there is something terrible he's planning, we'll be able to stop him without killing him, and maybe he and Lavellan will even be able to be together again, despite it all.

 

More likely, what he's planning won't be terrible at all, but what other people do as a result will be the future problem.  Remember Sandal's prophecy about the magic coming back?  All of it?  For everyone?  Even the dwarves?  Yeah, that kind of world would be awesome--everyone has magic in the next game, maybe, in some form or another?  But it would also be potentially disastrous, not because of what Solas had done but because of what other people would do with their newfound abilities.

 

Yeah I've been thinking about Sandal's prophecy. I remember how scared I was when he said that >_> (and then decided it was nothing and I should entirely ignore him because ahhhhhhh)

".... And the skies will open wide... When he rises... Everyone will see"

I get shivers, it's distressing, but it does not speak of everyone dying, it speaks of magic returning and I think the part about "everyone will see" may relate to tearing the veil apart and having spirits walking among them.

 

5 pages ago I was certain of a DLC, now I think Solas will be really big in the next DA... Though I still hope there will be a bridge of some sort, I really want all of my Inquisitors to meet Solas again (especially my canon!Inquisitor - Lavellan).

 

 

Ugh, just a big freakin' UGH.

This game entirely ruined me!