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[Shari'El]

Oh!  Sad David Tennant, I'm sorry.  Here- is this better?

L:  I can't let you do this.

S:  Vhenan, do not force this choice on me.

L:  OKay, nevermind.  Let's kiss instead!

S:  Oh yes, kissing would be great.  I love kissing.

L:  Awesome, then let's kiss, and then we can get married and make a bunch of adorable elf babies and live for ever.

S: Yes, in a floating crystal palace in the trees.

L:  Awwwwwww, Solas!  You're going to stop this silly 'remaking the world' thing just build me a castle in the sky?  (She bats her eyes)

S: Anything for you Sugar-woogams!

 

Leliana sings (you know the one; the elf-funeral song that somehow became the DAO sex song) as the two walk off into the fade sunset, hand in hand.

 

 

 

There David Tennant- anything for you, just don't cry!

 

I ran out of likes

[Eomie]

LOL yeah. Seriuosly, ME3 ending burned me very bad, I got very low tolerance for unavoidable tragedy I will jump through every possible hoop if needed but I want my [relatively] happy ending.

Honestly, I am one of the few who are completely okay with the ending of ME3. They tell you from the beginning that not everyone is going to live. I will say this...I teared up a little when Mordin died. It is amazing how emotional invested you can become in a imaginary character.

[Blue Gloves]

 It is amazing how emotional invested you can become in a imaginary character.

 

Right?  I had, until the moment Mordin went up in that damn elevator, "Scientist Salarian" as my ring tone.  I couldn't bear it anymore after Tuchanka though.  It's been Bacon Pancakes ever since.  Bacon Pancakes make everything better.

[Yaslana]

Oh!  Sad David Tennant, I'm sorry.  Here- is this better?
L:  I can't let you do this.
S:  Vhenan, do not force this choice on me.
L:  OKay, nevermind.  Let's kiss instead!
S:  Oh yes, kissing would be great.  I love kissing.
L:  Awesome, then let's kiss, and then we can get married and make a bunch of adorable elf babies and live for ever.
S: Yes, in a floating crystal palace in the trees.
L:  Awwwwwww, Solas!  You're going to stop this silly 'remaking the world' thing just build me a castle in the sky?  (She bats her eyes)
S: Anything for you Sugar-woogams!
 
Leliana sings (you know the one; the elf-funeral song that somehow became the DAO sex song) as the two walk off into the fade sunset, hand in hand.
 
 
 
There David Tennant- anything for you, just don't cry!

Better!

Actually my Lavellan trys to convince me to headcannon her pregnat with Solas babe. But I think I don't want that... I already headcannon her being a mom but her babe was a mage and was sent away. She found her child a few days later dead. Her life is really one shity BS after the other...

[CardinalSin90]

LOL yeah. Seriuosly, ME3 ending burned me very bad, I got very low tolerance for unavoidable tragedy I will jump through every possible hoop if needed but I want my [relatively] happy ending.

I cried watching the ending. But then I thought..legends dont get to live very often t.t

[Kittn]

I didn't want to interrupt any theorycrafting, so I was putting off this post, but I need a little help ya'll. I lost my beloved Chesha save files earlier today thanks to my own stupidity. It was all the false starts for my rogue Lavellan, Tiger Festival, where I accidently deleted her character files instead of another throw away attempt at a similar face for the new one. There was a moment of utter horror as I stared at the screen, then hours of fruitless search for restorable files. Nothing.

I have since become resigned to my fate without my beloved 2h warrior Lavellan and seek the advice of my fellow Solas-smitten.

What to do now? New headcanon Lavellan? Possibly with a character named Tiger Festival? There would be fun in the challenge of taking a character by that name seriously and making her lore worthy in my head. She does look something like my Chesha, so that helps, but she doesn't have the giant sword and giant swords are always important. Alternatively, I could start a new Chesha and play with all the same choices and style as I did with her. It'd make for a redundant, much less fulfilling 90 hours, but I would have her for any future content.

Meh. Has anyone else been in a predicament like this? Please advise.

As thanks in advance and a way to stay on topic, have a screenshot of Solas's delicious growly face that I managed to grab while trying to get a cinematic of one of my Tiger attempts. Just... don't mind Cassandra trying to photobomb it with her derp eye.

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[Blue Gloves]

Actually my Lavellan trys to convince me to headcannon her pregnat with Solas babe. But I think I don't want that... I already headcannon her being a mom but her babe was a mage and was sent away. She found her child a few days later dead. Her life is really one shity BS after the other...

 

You just made David Tennant sad again.

[tanuki]

Right?  I had, until the moment Mordin went up in that damn elevator, "Scientist Salarian" as my ring tone.  I couldn't bear it anymore after Tuchanka though.  It's been Bacon Pancakes ever since.  Bacon Pancakes make everything better.

Mordin's death was really well done (as well as the rest of Tuchanka mission). I love that part of the game. The infamous ending... not so much

[CapricornSun]

LOL yeah. Seriuosly, ME3 ending burned me very bad, I got very low tolerance for unavoidable tragedy I will jump through every possible hoop if needed but I want my [relatively] happy ending.

 

Man, after I ended ME3 I was depressed for 3 months. Not even joking. I was too invested in that series and it destroyed me by end.

 

That's why I'm hoping there would at least be a chance at a happy ending for Solas and Lavellan. I don't want to go through that pain again. 

[Eomie]

So am I the one that thinks all the eyes that quizzy is talking about in her fevered mumblings in the beginning are the dread wolf? I will say it is possible it is the fear demon as well....

[Blue Gloves]

I didn't want to interrupt any theorycrafting, so I was putting off this post, but I need a little help ya'll. I lost my beloved Chesha save files earlier today thanks to my own stupidity. It was all the false starts for my rogue Lavellan, Tiger Festival, where I accidently deleted her character files instead of another throw away attempt at a similar face for the new one. There was a moment of utter horror as I stared at the screen, then hours of fruitless search for restorable files. Nothing.

I have since become resigned to my fate without my beloved 2h warrior Lavellan and seek the advice of my fellow Solas-smitten.

What to do now? New headcanon Lavellan? Possibly with a character named Tiger Festival? There would be fun in the challenge of taking a character by that name seriously and making her lore worthy in my head. She does look something like my Chesha, so that helps, but she doesn't have the giant sword and giant swords are always important. Alternatively, I could start a new Chesha and play with all the same choices and style as I did with her. It'd make for a redundant, much less fulfilling 90 hours, but I would have her for any future content.

Meh. Has anyone else been in a predicament like this? Please advise.

As thanks in advance and a way to stay on topic, have a screenshot of Solas's delicious growly face that I managed to grab while trying to get a cinematic of one of my Tiger attempts. Just... don't mind Cassandra trying to photobomb it with her derp eye.

 

Dang, Cass really did have derp eye in that one.  Did you check the Keep to see if your save was there?  I have had to go manually in and delete save games from  the keep that I have already deleted on the console, the keep seems to save every attempt.

[scintilla]

True, and Solas does make comments the equivalent of "you have to break some eggs to make omelets," and it's pretty much a law that Solas' good intentions go awry. It would be in the reaction, I think, more than the actual change. Though I think he does have a case that this is already happening due to the unnatural separation. I mean, the mage vs. templar rebellion was started because of Justice's corruption and the Rite of Tranquility being found to be reversible, for instance. The Breach being another example.

 

I also come back around to the idea that the Veil may be collapsing on its own, judging by Sandal's and Flemeth's comments, so Solas may seek only to hasten what he sees as inevitable.

 

Unforeseen consequences are a possibility too. Will it really be that easy to just remove the Veil and merge what has evolved into two worlds without anything getting broken? It seems like there's a lot of potential not just for people to riot (because everyone's been taught forever that the Veil being removed would be the worst and that would probably mess with the spirits big time) but for things to not fit quite like they did before the Veil existed. Whatever happens, Solas will be at least partially responsible.

 

Morrigan says change is coming too. Tearing down the Veil may only be one part of that change. Or we could be wrong about the possibility of it happening and the change is something else entirely.

[Blue Gloves]

So am I the one that thinks all the eyes that quizzy is talking about in her fevered mumblings in the beginning are the dread wolf? I will say it is possible it is the fear demon as well....

 

Always figured it was that creepy freakin' spidery bit of the fear demon.

[Kittn]

Dang, Cass really did have derp eye in that one.  Did you check the Keep to see if your save was there?  I have had to go manually in and delete save games from  the keep that I have already deleted on the console, the keep seems to save every attempt.

 

!

 

I didn't think of checking the keep. I'll go check, but I'm uncertain how to locate it on there or how to recover it from there if it is present.

 

Edit: Found the playthrough states and Chesha's is there. So for now her decisions are safe. I think I will be toying with new headcannon Tiger Festival in the meantime, however. Best of both! Also, more Solas, and that's always a good thing.

[Blue Gloves]

Ack- it's one am here- I better get to bed.  Night all!

[Kulyok]

Got one more great line from Solas' main quest(All New, Faded For Her):

 

I reloaded and tried all the available responses from the conversation when he returns to Skyhold. To my horror, in one of the lines, when I said "I thought you weren't coming back", he said he considered it - for a very short time. Um, I'll write it off to shock talking, and possibly a line being written _before_ he was made a romantic interest.

 

But that was about bad news. The good news is: if you don't choose the flirt option, "I'm here for you"(we all know how that branch goes) and just tell him "I'll let you get back to work", he says it's important to him that you helped his friend, and even though you might've considered it strange, it matters to him. Then the camera slides back on him once more(so it's a separate line, perhaps even romance-only), and he says "You matter".

 

I melted, naturally.

 

 

 

(though now I have to overwrite that older save, because I went back to the Grotto hunting for Tier 2 chests and glorious Dalish Warrior Armor for my mage. Um, I don't think even 200 reloads would get it, but I'll do even more to show Solas some skin and my bare legs. Shame on me!)

[Ajna]

If there is a boss fight I'd still rather have one where we fight multi eyed wolf Solas and have an interrupt where we can hug him and the power of love changes him to peaceful looking wolf Solas and they live happily ever after and the dinosaurs spend the rest of their days entertaining children at the Museum of Natural History.

 

The worst time to be out of likes!

[Yaslana]

Ooooooohhhhhhhh.  Oh, that's good.  I read it and it just felt so, right.  I hadn't come across that theory before, but it kinda fits, yeah?

But why activate the artifacts to strengthen the vail?

Maybe it just crashing down is bad, but bring it down cotrolled is better?

[Yaslana]

You just made David Tennant sad again.

I'm so very sorry... :-/

[jawsisinmywc]

True, and Solas does make comments the equivalent of "you have to break some eggs to make omelets," and it's pretty much a law that Solas' good intentions go awry. It would be in the reaction, I think, more than the actual change. Though I think he does have a case that this is already happening due to the unnatural separation. I mean, the mage vs. templar rebellion was started because of Justice's corruption and the Rite of Tranquility being found to be reversible, for instance. The Breach being another example.

 

I also come back around to the idea that the Veil may be collapsing on its own, judging by Sandal's and Flemeth's comments, so Solas may seek only to hasten what he sees as inevitable.

Maybe that's what woke Solas up?

[Sylvanfeather]

 I know, right?  Since we're being morbid here, I'll go ahead and post the scenario like running around in my head for the final DAI DLC:

L:  I can't let you do this.

S:  Vhenan, do not force this choice on me.

L:  Choice?  What choice have you left me?  You would drown this world in fire as surely as Corypheus, all for your pride, and you speak to me of choice?

S:  I never wanted-

L:  What?  To kill countless people?  To decide the fate of every living being in Thedas?  The old world is gone, Solas, and remaking the current one... it's not your place.

S:  (progressively angrier) Not my place?  Whose then, if not mine?  You said you wanted to change things, but what did you actually change?  A Dalish mage may command the greatest of Thedas' armies, but your people still hide from the world, clinging to half-forgotten fairy stories and so wrapped up in bitterness and a desperate bid for survival that they would turn away from you in contempt.  It is not enough, to simply desire change, you must actually do something to cause it.

L:  No matter the cost?

S: There is always a cost.

 

Cue epic battle, Solas (of course) wins, catches Quizzies and gently lowers her to the ground.

She gasps, reaches to touch his face

 L: (hitched breathing) Is there... anything left?  Of the man I loved...

S: Ir Abelas, Vhenan.

 

She dies.  Solas pauses a moment, then rises.  Continues on to , presumably, carry out his plans.  We now have the whole delicious backstory for the DAI's major villain (a sympathetic bad guy, b/c those are always the best) and a clean slate for the new protag.  A similar scenario could work just as well for any quizzie too- just replace Vhenan with "my friend" and "Of the man I loved..." with "Of the man I knew..."

 

Why would you do that? That's the last outcome I want for either my Inquisitor or for Solas.

 

Though if we have to go for terrible soul crushing drama, take this same scenario but with Solas the one mortally wounded. Then as we can barely see the screen through all our tears, it turns out it was a demony thing pretending to be Solas. Maybe it has a goal to get rid of the Anchor or to keep the pair separated to thwart Solas' own plans.

 

As long as the scenario take us right to the edge of total depression and then swings back around for maximum celebrations.

 

 

Man, after I ended ME3 I was depressed for 3 months. Not even joking. I was too invested in that series and it destroyed me by end.

 

That's why I'm hoping there would at least be a chance at a happy ending for Solas and Lavellan. I don't want to go through that pain again. 

 

I was also one of the depressed after ME3, even though I didn't hate the ending, it really effected me. Which had never happened before. Thank goodness for multiplayer, it brought the fun back into the series for me.

 

I'd almost rather have the ending there is now for Solas and Lavellan, than to have DLC set it out in black and white there is no chance for the pair.

[Hedinve]

Activating the orbs prevents demons from crossing over. A controlled veil removal may let spirits remain spirits. I'm still not sure if that is his plan.

[Ajna]

Why would you do that? That's the last outcome I want for either my Inquisitor or for Solas.

 

Though if we have to go for terrible soul crushing drama, take this same scenario but with Solas the one mortally wounded. Then as we can barely see the screen through all our tears, it turns out it was a demony thing pretending to be Solas. Maybe it has a goal to get rid of the Anchor or to keep the pair separated to thwart Solas' own plans.

 

As long as the scenario take us right to the edge of total depression and then swings back around for maximum celebrations.

 

 

 

I was also one of the depressed after ME3, even though I didn't hate the ending, it really effected me. Which had never happened before. Thank goodness for multiplayer, it brought the fun back into the series for me.

 

I'd almost rather have the ending there is now for Solas and Lavellan, than to have DLC set it out in black and white there is no chance for the pair.

 

I've seen Weekes do this in is own novels, he can do it!  Anybody else read The Prophecy Con?

[Patchwork]

So is there a possibility that Lavellan knows who he is by this point? I mean we know because of the extra scene at the end but if she drank from the Well, maybe she finds out eventually?

 

It was part of an idea that Lavellan or any Inquisitor who drank from the Well finds out the truth when Flemythal "dies" because until then she's been controlling what the voices tell the Inquisitor as a favour to her old friend. Morrigan does say the voices should be louder.

[Hedinve]

I think we are missing a big peice of the puzzle. It may tie in with the veil and the trapped gods. If this is a set up for later games, I think something big is coming, way worse than anything we've seen until now. Something that was prevented by the creation of the veil and locking away the gods and probably a whole bunch of stuff we don't know about. I think this is what Sandal is talking about. Solas is dead set on something, and it does not make any sense that he wants to release his former mates or bring down the veil as end goal. There is a reason he is desperate enough to let a blighted magister unlock his orb. Cory is a minor event, closing the breach is urgent because it may contribute to whatever is going to happen next or serve as a distraction from the real big bad. I don't think Solas would take such risks if it wasn't extremely important. I do think Flemythal knows too, and any of them, sacrificed, combined or now in control over to powerful souls, will do anything to prevent or fight this thing. 

 

I hope... I refuse to battle Solas.