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[Avejajed]

I've never done the pro Templar version, both of my full playthroughs are pro Mage.

I just love Dorian and I was afraid I would hate Cole which is why I did the mages my first time around. I play a Mage in this one so mages it was.

[kalasaurus]

I've never done the pro Templar version, both of my full playthroughs are pro Mage.

I just love Dorian and I was afraid I would hate Cole which is why I did the mages my first time around. I play a Mage in this one so mages it was.

 

I'm generally pro-mage, but I decided to roleplay a Lavellan who went with the templars because the mage route was a trap that could kill her (she was pretty pro-survival after being forced into the shem world).  It made transitioning to the templar route smoother, and she still conscripted them.  She didn't like them, but she agreed with Solas- they could be used for the greater good.

[Avejajed]

I'm generally pro-mage, but I decided to roleplay a Lavellan who went with the templars because the mage route was a trap that could kill her (she was pretty pro-survival after being forced into the shem world). It made transitioning to the templar route smoother, and she still conscripted them. She didn't like them, but she agreed with Solas- they could be used for the greater good.

So Solas doesn't hate you if you go the Templar route?

[kalasaurus]

So Solas doesn't hate you if you go the Templar route?

 

He actually greatly approves if you conscript them.

[Avejajed]

Good to know. I'll have to try it with my new Lavellan.

[SamanthaJ]

In my current playthrough I allied with the Templars (Ser Barris is just too nice and it wasn't his fault his superiors were deuches) and he greatly disapproved (as expected), but when I talked to him afterward he just commented something about them being useful and was pretty neutral emotionally. He wasn't excited like he was when allying with the mages (obviously). When asked if he had a problem or something to that affect he said something about them having their issues, but then something pragmatic (I think). Then I was able to flirt with him and gain approval that way. Though I already had high approval since I was able to get the "Inquisitor, that's not why I stayed" line (or however it actually went).

 

^

I think I have memory issues. I haven't slept since noon the day before yesterday.

[Brass_Buckles]

I heard you can still side with the mages if you choose to go do the templar quest.  Is that true?

[Sable Rhapsody]

I heard you can still side with the mages if you choose to go do the templar quest.  Is that true?

 

Nope.  Mage main quest and templar main quest are mutually exclusive.  You can get a few small war table follow-up missions, but that's it.

[TheComfyCat]

Ah, Solas looks so good in the Keeper Robe armor. Getting that schematic was so worth it.

 

A couple more pictures...

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I think it looked even better with white pants... but I didn't want to let him abscond with my tier 4 dragon materials. So I settled for the green pants.

 

Incidentally, I really like the female version, too...

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[Sylvanfeather]

I've been thinking something similar to this, since a Mage Inquisitor can comment during the Fade!Haven scene that the Fade has never looked so "real" in any of their previous visits there, which Solas comments on as being unusual? It makes me wonder if the Anchor somehow allows them to have a foot in both the real world and the Fade at the same time?

 

It makes me wonder if the Anchor has also made even non-mage Inquisitors into some kind of hedge-mage, as they seem to subconsciously know how to use it on sheer instinct as the magic works through them? And if perhaps they're also somehow bleeding some of the Fade into Thedas with it, possibly allowing them to manipulate reality outside of the Fade, at least on some small scale?

 

It would explain some of times they survived things that all logic says they shouldn't have, which the Inquisitor seems to chalk up to "divine bad luck".

 

Sort of the opposite of the Rite of Tranquility. Instead of cutting the bearer off from the Fade it allows a more enhanced connection. Although, that would put dwarven Inquisitors in an interesting position. Can they now dream?

 

It's my opinion as well that the Inquisitor has a foot in both the Fade and real world. That the Anchor really is just a key, one that opens and closes the Veil. Something that allows the Inquisitor, and apparently anyone in close proximity, to physically be on one side or the other. The Anchor may possibly even be a master key to the eluvians. Although, that seems less likely as they make a point of showing the person that drank from the Well as the one to open that eluvian.

[CapricornSun]

Ah, Solas looks so good in the Keeper Robe armor. Getting that schematic was so worth it.

 

A couple more pictures...

Spoiler

I think it looked even better with white pants... but I didn't want to let him abscond with my tier 4 dragon materials. So I settled for the green pants.

 

Incidentally, I really like the female version, too...

Spoiler

 

Seeing him in the Keeper robes never fails to take my breath away. Elven god indeed. 

[Ispan]

Ah, Solas looks so good in the Keeper Robe armor. Getting that schematic was so worth it.

 

A couple more pictures...

Spoiler

 

I think it looked even better with white pants... but I didn't want to let him abscond with my tier 4 dragon materials. So I settled for the green pants.

 

I spent a long time right before the Coffeeface fight dressing Solas up and arming him with the best gear, then he ditches me, dumps the clothes and puts his simple outfit back on.  How ungrateful! I had flashbacks to Final Fantasy, felt like having my materia stolen all over again.  The anger helps distract from the heartache

 

Edit: Ugh he's gorgeous.  It's making my Trevelyan play through even harder

[TheComfyCat]

Seeing him in the Keeper robes never fails to take my breath away. Elven god indeed. 

 

Haha, agreed. I kept stopping to take screen shots in the Arbor Wilds. Like, wait wait wait, halt the inquisition. We're not in a hurry or anything, right? I gotta take a picture of Solas by this statue.

 

[Sinaxi]

Sort of the opposite of the Rite of Tranquility. Instead of cutting the bearer off from the Fade it allows a more enhanced connection. Although, that would put dwarven Inquisitors in an interesting position. Can they now dream?

 

It's my opinion as well that the Inquisitor has a foot in both the Fade and real world. That the Anchor really is just a key, one that opens and closes the Veil. Something that allows the Inquisitor, and apparently anyone in close proximity, to physically be on one side or the other. The Anchor may possibly even be a master key to the eluvians. Although, that seems less likely as they make a point of showing the person that drank from the Well as the one to open that eluvian.

 

I think it's important to note that Solas is not at full capacity in the entire game, he didn't have the strength to unlock his own orb - and a large majority of that power was transferred to the Inquisitor I believe. And, yeah, I'm a little hazy on whether or not dwarven Inquisitor's dream now or if the Haven fade dream is written off as being magically induced? I mean, dwarves can visit the fade, as it's happened in previous games but the dreaming would be new. The Anchor connects the PC to the fade though, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're capable of dreaming now.

So yeah, I agree that the Inquisitior is operating on more layers of reality - in a sense - just like Solas, and that the anchor functions as a key of sorts. Solas' life studies have revolved around the fade, and he is incredibly surprised to learn the Inquisitor is able to manipulate the fade so easily and dream with such focus there. He states it is because of the Anchor - which makes sense given the power they inherited from his foci when they interrupted Corypheus' ritual.

I've read a few posts back, and yeah I'm not sure if this would....be potentially related to the Inquisitor being immortal or something like that. The theory with the Eluvians does seem to be a popular one going around, though.

[Eivuwan]

Ah, Solas looks so good in the Keeper Robe armor. Getting that schematic was so worth it.

 

A couple more pictures...

Spoiler

I think it looked even better with white pants... but I didn't want to let him abscond with my tier 4 dragon materials. So I settled for the green pants.

 

Incidentally, I really like the female version, too...

Spoiler

 

I plan to do everythingg before the last core story mission so that even if he leaves looking nice, it's ok because there's nothing else to do in the game. Then I can take some screenshots of him in nice clothes saying that it waz real.

[CapricornSun]

Haha, agreed. I kept stopping to take screen shots in the Arbor Wilds. Like, wait wait wait, halt the inquisition. We're not in a hurry or anything, right? I gotta take a picture of Solas by this statue.

 

 

Basked under heavenly light. Perfect!

 

*sigh* All these beautiful screenshots.   Oh, if only I had a powerful PC or even a PS4 I'd be able to take magnificent (and clear) screenshots like this instead of relying on my camera phone.

[Eivuwan]

Hmm, come to think of it, they should have done the last cutscene with Flemeth with Solas wearing whatever he had on last. It feels more personal that way.

[caridounette]

I'm generally pro-mage, but I decided to roleplay a Lavellan who went with the templars because the mage route was a trap that could kill her (she was pretty pro-survival after being forced into the shem world).  It made transitioning to the templar route smoother, and she still conscripted them.  She didn't like them, but she agreed with Solas- they could be used for the greater good.

 

For me it was the whole 'lets sell ourselves to Tevinter' bit... My Lavellan has nothing against the mage being out of their circles, she just think the bunch that occupy Redcliffe are not in condition to help (she wont negociate with the Tevinter to borrow slaves, and she thinks the rebel mages are pretty dumb by that point) so she'll grab the Templars, keeping them off the rest of the mages and offering structure for the Templars who actually want to help.

[HurricaneGinger]

WELL Y'ALL I DID IT

 

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HOLD ME IT WAS SO PAINFUL

[DarthEmpress]

I didn't spoil myself with what would happen in the Solas romance so when I chose to remove the vallaslin it was because I felt my Inquisitor trusted him above all us and felt similarly about "freedom."  I think also that she fell in love with him because of his passion and intelligence, despite him being right or wrong in his intentions.  There's a great dialogue between the two before the last scene where if you say you would choose to make the world a better place and keep trying he seems impressed, almost happy, which is interesting in hindsight.  Under any other circumstances or another person telling her the truth about the vallaslin, she wouldn't have had them removed, but with Solas it was different - her implicit trust and admiration for him as well as the lost relics of their culture.

 

Kind of sad that she trusted him so much and he not only broke her heart, but left without any explanation.  As much as I hate it, I still love it.  You see so much more to who Solas is when he's in love with Lavellan.  In small ways, he does bear his soul to her.

[SamanthaJ]

WELL Y'ALL I DID IT

 

Spoiler

 

HOLD ME IT WAS SO PAINFUL

[caridounette]

I didn't spoil myself with what would happen in the Solas romance so when I chose to remove the vallaslin it was because I felt my Inquisitor trusted him above all us and felt similarly about "freedom."  I think also that she fell in love with him because of his passion and intelligence, despite him being right or wrong in his intentions.  There's a great dialogue between the two before the last scene where if you say you would choose to make the world a better place and keep trying he seems impressed, almost happy, which is interesting in hindsight.  Under any other circumstances or another person telling her the truth about the vallaslin, she wouldn't have had them removed, but with Solas it was different - her implicit trust and admiration for him as well as the lost relics of their culture.

 

Kind of sad that she trusted him so much and he not only broke her heart, but left without any explanation.  As much as I hate it, I still love it.  You see so much more to who Solas is when he's in love with Lavellan.  In small ways, he does bear his soul to her.

 

Nicely put!

 

There are so many ways to play out their last moments but they all turn out so meaningful. Thats what makes this romance so compelling with so little content.

[TheComfyCat]

WELL Y'ALL I DID IT

 

Spoiler

 

HOLD ME IT WAS SO PAINFUL

 

[kalasaurus]

[Sinaxi]

I didn't spoil myself with what would happen in the Solas romance so when I chose to remove the vallaslin it was because I felt my Inquisitor trusted him above all us and felt similarly about "freedom."  I think also that she fell in love with him because of his passion and intelligence, despite him being right or wrong in his intentions.  There's a great dialogue between the two before the last scene where if you say you would choose to make the world a better place and keep trying he seems impressed, almost happy, which is interesting in hindsight.  Under any other circumstances or another person telling her the truth about the vallaslin, she wouldn't have had them removed, but with Solas it was different - her implicit trust and admiration for him as well as the lost relics of their culture.

 

Kind of sad that she trusted him so much and he not only broke her heart, but left without any explanation.  As much as I hate it, I still love it.  You see so much more to who Solas is when he's in love with Lavellan.  In small ways, he does bear his soul to her.

Yeah, and I don't think there's a "right" answer to this. I feel like this is one of the most personal decisions in the game tbh, and that ultimately it comes down to how your Lavellan feels and their backstory. A lot of people want to police this choice, though, implying that if Lavellan has them removed then she's actively abandoning her culture and her people which I really don't think is the case. It's true, the Dalish have made the vallaslin cultural markers of their own, the meaning has changed, they've become a source of belonging and pride and they're a deeply integral thing to what "being Dalish" means - but they're not the be all, end all. Ultimately, they are tattoos. Having them removed does not necessarily make Lavellan ~less Dalish. She was still born and bred with her people, she will always be Dalish even if she doesn't have the vallaslin to prove it.

 

Anyways, I agree with you. My Lavellan feels similarily about it. I think it's important to remember as well that this happens after so many things are revealed in the Temple of Mythal, things the Dalish didn't know the full story about. Lavellan could also be struggling with the fact that they have just bound themselves to Mythal if they chose to drink from the well, so Solas' reveal could hit them even harder given her state of unease about her autonomy and they would want them removed. There's a variety of reasons why removing the vallaslin makes sense from a character standpoint, and a variety of reasons why it makes sense to keep them, because the vallaslin has always been a source of pride for their people, but it's ultimately heavily dependent on what kind of a person your Lavellan is.

 

I don't think either choice is "correct" - it's hugely up to player interpretation because it's a deeply emotional thing, something that defines Lavellan's integrity either way and how she feels about Solas divulging this truth to her. Some people hate that he tells them at all. I'm not one of those people lol.