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[Shari'El]

Already on it. Going through old videos for fade whispers. Trying to isolate fade rift sounds too. I know I hear things being said when I am near them fighting. It's just hard to make out with the other sounds.

 

How is that going? I'm really curious

[Shari'El]

Ohoho

 

 

http://ofcheeseandde...r-elf-is-my-new

 

Oh dear god oh dear god I'm blushing like mad right now.

Dear heavens, that is better than the rogue one, though I decided I like the mage's one best, it's quite... well.. ahem

[Shari'El]

I think it will, otherwise I can't imagine why they would have written the servant aspect into it at all. There are a number of different ways BW could have had Flemythal take the OG soul without needing to have either Morrigan or the Inquisitor under her will.  It seems like a silly thing to introduce if it's never going to matter again, and BW seems much, much more deliberate in their writing than they were in DA:O or even DA:2. The (main) DA:I story seems very tight and interconnected to me, without a lot of superfluous loose ends like the other two games.

 

This sounds hopeful, strengthens the ideas of seeing Inqi more in the context of Flemeth and Solas.

[Shari'El]

 

• Kieran can mention the elf Inquisitor's "old blood," but he can also ask why she chooses to look the way she does.  How could she choose or not choose how she looks?  Hmm, maybe if she were very connected to the Fade, she could manipulate reality on that level...  Unsure of the other things he can say; it depends what you say to him is all I know for sure.

 

Wat, wat?

He says that?

[Sable Rhapsody]

Oh dear god oh dear god I'm blushing like mad right now.

Dear heavens, that is better than the rogue one, though I decided I like the mage's one best, it's quite... well.. ahem

 

I love the rogue one.  "No, I am declaring it."  Stupid confident PERFECT hobo elf.  In fact, I love all three of the class-specific flirts.

 

Although it was funny getting the line about indomitable focus with my Adaar mage and not being able to follow up on it with a flirt.  Adaar was like, "Solas, we're bros but 1) you're kind of racist and 2) have you seen the eyes I make at Dorian?"

[CapricornSun]

Not sure if these were posted already... 

 

 

Source: http://shutterbones....o-if-i-would-be

 

 

Source: http://shutterbones....-egg-hell-and-i

[Shari'El]

I think it's important to note that Solas is not at full capacity in the entire game, he didn't have the strength to unlock his own orb - and a large majority of that power was transferred to the Inquisitor I believe. And, yeah, I'm a little hazy on whether or not dwarven Inquisitor's dream now or if the Haven fade dream is written off as being magically induced? I mean, dwarves can visit the fade, as it's happened in previous games but the dreaming would be new. The Anchor connects the PC to the fade though, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're capable of dreaming now.

 

Oh.

Oh.

I can't believe I forgot about that, my first Inqi was a dwarf and they had that talk in the fade, which I forgot was supposed to not be possible for dwarves.

Mmmmm... Either they missed out on something or a dwarf Inqi can now dream.

If they can now dream how come nobody said something?

If they can't dream how come Inqi isn't entirely freaked about the fact they dreamt for the first time in their life?

[Addai]

Solas mentions being surprised that the dream interlude was so focused. I think the Inquisitor was driving that encounter, not him. She probably functions something like a Dreamer. That's how I interpret some of the dialogue that she's the needle that pulls the thread, she can bring the Fade back to the other side and obviously vice versa.

 

I imagine that she made it so real that even she herself forgets it isn't, hence her surprise when he mentions it being the Fade. She exists now in both worlds so a dream of her own making is just like reality. Including Fade tongue.

[sunhair]

So yeah I'm still pondering over what Cole said to Quizzy about being too bright 

 

My Gif of the day 

Spoiler

 

 

 

[Kulyok]

I love the Fade scene, but it's really strange how a logical and rational Inquisitor fails to notice the Breach in the sky during the Haven Fade interlude, when she herself closed it days(weeks?) ago. I mean, the player notices, but the Inquisitor has no option to.

[Shari'El]

Solas.. something is.. I need help

 

Femquizzy saying it

http://ar-lath-ma-vh...ong-i-need-help

Mquizzy saying it

http://ar-lath-ma-vh...-does-he-say-it

 

then later

http://ar-lath-ma-vh...0/what-happened

 

Quizzy: Nothing is wrong with me, really, sorry to have bothered you

 

 

 

Is this in game ? Just found that among the sound files

 

Also found those

http://ar-lath-ma-vh...zzy-found-amongblowing a kiss

http://ar-lath-ma-vh...5936332120/whoaWhoa

http://ar-lath-ma-vh...ame-sound-filesDareth Shiral

 

The 'kiss' and 'whoa' is for the mounts XD

 

Never heard the "Solas.. Something is... I need help", I really want to know what is the context.

[drake2511]

Solas.. something is.. I need help

 

Femquizzy saying it

http://ar-lath-ma-vh...ong-i-need-help

Mquizzy saying it

http://ar-lath-ma-vh...-does-he-say-it

 

then later

http://ar-lath-ma-vh...0/what-happened

 

Quizzy: Nothing is wrong with me, really, sorry to have bothered you

 

 

 

Is this in game ? Just found that among the sound files

 

Also found those

http://ar-lath-ma-vh...zzy-found-amongblowing a kiss

http://ar-lath-ma-vh...5936332120/whoaWhoa

http://ar-lath-ma-vh...ame-sound-filesDareth Shiral

 

Uggh I really want to get the line in the first file! (and see his reaction ) I hope it's the bugged quest, but it could just be cut content

[ugobananas]

Given the enormity of this thread I haven't read all the posts (duh). But I wanted to chime in.

 

On my second playthrough I selected Solas as my love interest despite knowing....THINGS. I couldn't resist, I found him utterly charming in the first playthrough (though I had promised myself to pick Cullen for my first romance). I still can't believe that Solas wasn't originally going to be an option because... Best. Romance. Ever. In any BioWare game. Hell, better than Garrus. THAT'S SAYING A LOT. 

 

But UGH. I needed MORE. I need CLOSURE. 

 

My thoughts, for what they're worth:

Spoiler

First of all, the whole post-credit-thingy with Flemeth was very ambiguous. I think it leaves a huge opening for Solas to still be himself. I mean, Flemeth was still Flemeth after Mythal "took" her. She still talked about how she felt with Mythal found her. Second, I totally expected that Solas would appear to me in my dreams when I went back to my room at the end of the game. SO DISAPPOINTED that he didn't.

 

Please, please, please create a substantial Solas DLC. One where the romance can continue (read: sex please?) and if necessary (sigh) have closure. But you know, if things could just stay happily ever after, I would take back any complaint I ever made about ME3's ending.

[slmisfit]

Wat, wat?

He says that?

 

The specific dialogue is-

 

Kieran: Mother never told me the Inquisitor was an elf.

Inquisitor: That's not such a terrible thing, is it?

Kieran: No. I just don't know why your people want to look like that.

or

Inquisitor: The ears gave me away, didn't they?

Kieran: No. Your blood is very old. I saw it right away.

 

He's not necessarily talking about the Inquisitor specifically in either response, but more likely elves as a whole. If that's the case, he's implying that the ancient elves might have literally chosen their forms somehow. That's a good thing for theories where the elves/the elven pantheon started out as spirits like Cole. As for the very old blood comment... he could simply mean that the elves are an ancient race and he could sense that in her blood. Or the Inquisitor could be a direct descendant of a specific bloodline. I dunno, really.

[Shari'El]

 

The specific dialogue is-

 

Kieran: Mother never told me the Inquisitor was an elf.

Inquisitor: That's not such a terrible thing, is it?

Kieran: No. I just don't know why your people want to look like that.

or

Inquisitor: The ears gave me away, didn't they?

Kieran: No. Your blood is very old. I saw it right away.

 

He's not necessarily talking about the Inquisitor specifically in either response, but more likely elves as a whole. If that's the case, he's implying that the ancient elves might have literally chosen their forms somehow. That's a good thing for theories where the elves/the elven pantheon started out as spirits like Cole. As for the very old blood comment... he could simply mean that the elves are an ancient race and he could sense that in her blood. Or the Inquisitor could be a direct descendant of a specific bloodline. I dunno, really.

 

 

I got the second dialog, I figured he just meant that the elves are an ancient race, though it's kind of weird for him to mention it. It's quite obvious the elves exist for a long time, why would he say that? Yes, it could be just some boring dialog but since he is Kieran...

I want to know what he says to other races.

[tanuki]

 

I love the Fade scene, but it's really strange how a logical and rational Inquisitor fails to notice the Breach in the sky during the Haven Fade interlude, when she herself closed it days(weeks?) ago. I mean, the player notices, but the Inquisitor has no option to.

I decided to think it's because s/he is in a dream, actually. Sometimes while dreaming you (well, me, at least  ) can see things as perfectly logical but remembering the dream after waking up you can see how it was totally irrational. The whole Haven dream sequence has some kind of "surreal" feel IMO. In some points of the dialogue the Inquisitor can even notice that. "Didn't we talk about this before?" "That is not what you said". I think even the kiss was partly inspired by this surreality "Hey it's a dream anyway why won't I try to kiss him".

[BlackCat]

As you do, i am of the personal opinion that the vallaslin have their own meaning now and the fact that they come historically from slave symbols does not take away from the meaning the Dalish impart to them with their coming of age ritual. Elves used to be slaves and they took back the slave symbols and made them their own. Godd for them. 

 

But my Lavellan actually accepts to have the vallaslin taken. Its jsut how she feels at the moment. She may find a rational for it afterwards but the truth will remain that she did it out of trust and love. Just like the Cole banter says, she feels embarassed about it for a while and angry at herself. But then I guess it will force her to move forward, for the future of all elves. Some mistakes jsut work out in the end.

This

 

My inquisitor even tells him that it doesn't matter because her people have reclaimed them. But then she gives in at that moment and allows him to remove them, since he is someone she loves and trusts. And she doesn't realize he is about to break up with her two minutes later. I love that part of the scene with the two of them kneeling on the ground; the way he stands her up, how he looks at her and tells her she’s so beautiful. I like that he is assertive but gentle with her, it’s so cute.  

 

Although I do think a Lavellan who doesn’t have them removed would have more reason to feel proud that she didn't allow herself to be persuaded by him, only to be dumped after. 

 

 

[slmisfit]

I got the second dialog, I figured he just meant that the elves are an ancient race, though it's kind of weird for him to mention it. It's quite obvious the elves exist for a long time, why would he say that? Yes, it could be just some boring dialog but since he is Kieran...

I want to know what he says to other races.

I think all non-human Inquisitors get the "I didn't know you were a qunari/elf/dwarf." dialogue, and they all get "Is that a bad thing?"/"What gave it away?"/"Who is your mother?" responses.

 

The "what gave it away" response for dwarves is something like, "You can't be taller. Not without the Titans." (I suspect the dwarf Inquisitors make a joke about how Kieran was probably expecting them to be taller.)

 

The "what gave it away" response to qunari is, "I noticed your blood. It doesn't belong to your people."

 

I don't know the "Is that a bad thing?" responses for dwarves or qunari, and unfortunately, there aren't any easily found youtube videos of it. Boo.

 

(His response to asking who his mother is is always the same: "Mother is the inheritor, she who awaits the next age.")

[Vorathrad]

Just going to say, it's okay to choose to let him go, but it's also okay to choose to pursue him.  He is not an unwilling participant in the romance--he takes the Inquisitor up to her balcony to tell her "Hey about that kiss, I totally remember it and I totally like it and you."  He hesitates when she waits for another kiss, but he does go for it anyway.  Same thing can be said of the Fade kiss--she starts it, but then he completely joins in.  Note that he says "But without you--" and tells the Inquisitor he loves her in the second scene, despite his hesitation.  Those aren't the words of someone who's getting involved in something he doesn't want to be involved in.  The trouble is more that it's clear to him it will be painful for Lavellan, so it's a bit selfish of him to be okay with it knowing that.

 

Of course both options are ok, I didn't intend to be judgemental , only share my feelings about it. At first I felt the same way as you, and like caridounette said too: that it was a "We shouldn't be doing this but I just can't help it". It felt like passion overcoming self-control and letting yourself in a love that may last only a few moments and then hurt but is worth living it anyway. Up until I learned about the "thank you" line if you decide to break up. Then it became a "We shouldn't we doing this but I just can't help it and I really don't want it" Solas knows that he has to leave sooner than later and he can't stay, so Lavellan will be hurt. But then if you choose to stop the relationship, he could have said something along the lines of "It hurts me to make this decision but I think this is best for both of us". But thanking you?!? To me, that reads as "I don't want this" It felt really strange because of what you said: on the balcony he reminds you of the kiss, he says he loves you right afterwards and pretty early in the romance... and then he says he appreciates you leaving the whole thing? I had to take a break from the relationship with my bf years ago because of issues we both had; it's something we both needed but I would never have thought of actually thanking him for agreeing to break up. It hurt too much to be thankful for it.

 

This are just my feelings, of course I understand that the romance itself is delightfully written and many people want to experience it again and again. It's just that the emphasis of "we shouldn't be doing this" has become too strong for me to want to pursue the complete romance again.

[Cheerios789]

Wait, wait, wait, back up. 

 

I just caught up on the thread since I just finished my canon completionist PT.  Ps.  Ouch, my heart.  Why is it out of my chest?

 

Anyways, someone found out what the voices from the well were saying?

 

"She speaks, she's fallen."  "Go to him?"

 

And the whole time they are whispering "Mythal"

 

Mythal is fallen?  Is this referencing how crazy vengeful Flemythal is?  Ugh, I need more.  This is my addiction and you people are enablers.

 

I love you, don't ever stop.

[MidgetNemo]

Wait, wait, wait, back up. 

 

I just caught up on the thread since I just finished my canon completionist PT.  Ps.  Ouch, my heart.  Why is it out of my chest?

 

Anyways, someone found out what the voices from the well were saying?

 

"She speaks, she's fallen."  "Go to him?"

 

And the whole time they are whispering "Mythal"

 

Mythal is fallen?  Is this referencing how crazy vengeful Flemythal is?  Ugh, I need more.  This is my addiction and you people are enablers.

 

I love you, don't ever stop.

I wonder what the calling part means,because if it has to do with the actual calling maybe this is them hinting at future dlc? One that deals with weisshaupt and another one that deals with Solas?

[Shari'El]

Of course both options are ok, I didn't intend to be judgemental , only share my feelings about it. At first I felt the same way as you, and like caridounette said too: that it was a "We shouldn't be doing this but I just can't help it". It felt like passion overcoming self-control and letting yourself in a love that may last only a few moments and then hurt but is worth living it anyway. Up until I learned about the "thank you" line if you decide to break up. Then it became a "We shouldn't we doing this but I just can't help it and I really don't want it" Solas knows that he has to leave sooner than later and he can't stay, so Lavellan will be hurt. But then if you choose to stop the relationship, he could have said something along the lines of "It hurts me to make this decision but I think this is best for both of us". But thanking you?!? To me, that reads as "I don't want this" It felt really strange because of what you said: on the balcony he reminds you of the kiss, he says he loves you right afterwards and pretty early in the romance... and then he says he appreciates you leaving the whole thing? I had to take a break from the relationship with my bf years ago because of issues we both had; it's something we both needed but I would never have thought of actually thanking him for agreeing to break up. It hurt too much to be thankful for it.

 

This are just my feelings, of course I understand that the romance itself is delightfully written and many people want to experience it again and again. It's just that the emphasis of "we shouldn't be doing this" has become too strong for me to want to pursue the complete romance again.

 

Here is my opinion:

I don't think it's "I don't want this", I think it's more like "I don't need this (this is a bad idea, this shouldn't happen)".

He wants it, he likes her, that much is evident pretty quickly - although he gets little romance content he still gets to say he loves her rather fast.

Want =/= need as you know, in my opinion he thanks her because he knows he should breakup with her but he can't bring himself to do so.

"Losing you..." he says, it's pretty obvious he doesn't miss being alone, but he knows that the path that lies ahead is a path he needs to walk alone.

Once she breaks up with him then the ball is her court, he can't do anything about it and it brings him a relief...

Maybe you've experienced it yourself - I had the opportunity to be in a relationship that wasn't working out and to which I saw no future, I wanted to end it but I pretty much took my time - I didn't want to face the consequences of hurting him (I did care for him), and wanted him to break up with me (I did break up with him at the end but that's after he did something really stupid, I still felt bad dumping him even after that!). I didn't love the guy, but I did care, think about the situation in which you love the person and even admire them, you know it won't work out at the end. You'd probably rather if they ended it on their own accord, that way you get the worse part of the deal and they get their closure.

[Shari'El]

Wait, wait, wait, back up. 

 

I just caught up on the thread since I just finished my canon completionist PT.  Ps.  Ouch, my heart.  Why is it out of my chest?

 

Anyways, someone found out what the voices from the well were saying?

 

"She speaks, she's fallen."  "Go to him?"

 

And the whole time they are whispering "Mythal"

 

Mythal is fallen?  Is this referencing how crazy vengeful Flemythal is?  Ugh, I need more.  This is my addiction and you people are enablers.

 

I love you, don't ever stop.

 

I wonder if this is some sort of foreshadowing...

 

End game spoilers

Spoiler

Flemythal speaks with Solas, she then falls after he absorbs her soul/powers.

'Go to him'... Go to Solas?

'The calling' - a way to hint that the blight relates to the elven gods? Or perhaps it's there to confuse - maybe hinting that the Inqi will find Solas using the voices of the well?

 

DLC CONFIRMED.

 

 

I'm spewing nonsense all over the place.

[Cheerios789]

I wonder what the calling part means,because if it has to do with the actual calling maybe this is them hinting at future dlc? One that deals with weisshaupt and another one that deals with Solas?

 

Yes, the calling bothers me.  Though we already know that the calling is linked to gods and the exertion of their will.  So if Mythal has fallen and now she is Calling ... who is she calling to and what are her plans?

 

I think that Solas did take over Mythal in the end, but I severely doubt she is gone.  I think it is more likely that she sent a part of her into the eluvian for safe keeping before he even got there.  So how does that match up with the Calling?  Was she planting the seeds of her control in the world before she took the long sleep with the rest of her kin? 

 

Gods.  I swear.  Both Fen'harel and Mythal are master manipulators and I can't imagine either of them gaining the upper hand on the other.  It is more likely that they both reached this conclusion.  Fen'harel knew he would be forced to do this and Mythal knew that too.  So what did she do to make it work towards her advantage?  Because there is no way that that the vengeful "She was betrayed as I was betrayed as the World was betrayed!" woman from earlier is not going to have her cake and eat it too.

[Vorathrad]

Here is my opinion:

I don't think it's "I don't want this", I think it's more like "I don't need this (this is a bad idea, this shouldn't happen)".

He wants it, he likes her, that much is evident pretty quickly - although he gets little romance content he still gets to say he loves her rather fast.

Want =/= need as you know, in my opinion he thanks her because he knows he should breakup with her but he can't bring himself to do so.

"Losing you..." he says, it's pretty obvious he doesn't miss being alone, but he knows that the path that lies ahead is a path he needs to walk alone.

Once she breaks up with him then the ball is her court, he can't do anything about it and it brings him a relief...

Maybe you've experienced it yourself - I had the opportunity to be in a relationship that wasn't working out and to which I saw no future, I wanted to end it but I pretty much took my time - I didn't want to face the consequences of hurting him (I did care for him), and wanted him to break up with me (I did break up with him at the end but that's after he did something really stupid, I still felt bad dumping him even after that!). I didn't love the guy, but I did care, think about the situation in which you love the person and even admire them, you know it won't work out at the end. You'd probably rather if they ended it on their own accord, that way you get the worse part of the deal and they get their closure.

 

I hear you and you're right; but isn't that a bit selfish? (I know Solas selfishness/selfless debate has been brought up quite a bit) Please don't understand that I'm calling you selfish, I'm talking about Solas, I woudln't dare to give an opinion on your personal life. I mean, he loves you but he can't be with you and also he doesn't want to be the one to tell you so (I guess our poor egg's mind is a mess) So what does he do? Muster his courage and tell you that you should definitely stop? No, he waits until you're the one to break it; and if you don't do, he waits until he can't delay the breakup no more.

 

Dammit I'm feeling bad for him now xD