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Again, even if he got around the physical appearance, and the voice, there's still the fact that he should have some remaining affection for Briala, if he were the same person.  He doesn't.  What he says about her if you support her, or end up exiling her, seems rather distant and certainly doesn't seem to hint at any prior friendship or emotional attachment.  Could he be hiding it?  Sure... but I think he'd tip us off somehow, if he were.  Having read the book, you can't tell me that he didn't care about Briala.

 

Being killed in the Fade generally makes an individual Tranquil--and I think it's irreversible, in that case.  Though, if the elven gods were spirits or spirit-like, I don't know, maybe it is possible?

 

Felassan was likely someone's slave--vallaslin, remember?--or willing servant.  Obviously, to one of the gods.  There are other gods in the elven pantheon, and, he communicated with whomever he was working for within the Fade.  Some think it was Fen'harel who killed him, and that's also entirely possible, although for a variety of reasons it doesn't seem to be the case (in my opinion).

 

As for who Felassan is... beyond "probably an ancient elf who sympathizes with and/or follows Fen'harel," I don't know.  We may never know, because he is now dead/Tranquil and it seems we'll never meet him, or at least never meet him in the state he was in prior to that event. (Which is sad, because he was interesting.)  Some speculate he was one of Mythal's sentinel elves.  I suspect he's from another group of ancient elves, and perhaps whoever he serves (I don't think that it is Flemeth/Mythal, OR Fen'harel) is awake and trying to escape the Fade.  But, he could be a servant of Mythal (those creepy whispers!) and working against (!!!!) Fen'harel (which would be interesting as they APPEAR to be allies, or to have been such in the past, and he clearly admires Fen'harel).  Or, he could have served Fen'harel--which would mean he's acting on his own, since I would think if Solas had any of the People stowed away somewhere serving him, he would probably not be wandering around the rest of the world.

 

It was obvious to me that everything Felassan did was a fake, because it was so overly done.  Even the vallaslin, because now we know he can manipulate them.  The chewing on the tree bark, the picking of the itchweed... he was playing the fool all too well.  It was like he was trying to decide on a personality -- maybe because he had just woken up?

 

And the conversation with Imshael, "How have you been?"  "Well, you know."

 

No, Felassan knew much more than any servant, willing or otherwise, could have.  But we will agree to disagree.   :)  I would be willing to take bets, though.   ;)

 

Edit:  Oh, and as for saying something about Briala or even reacting -- you really think he'd blow his cover like that?  Naw.



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I see all these fan fics about Solas being super jealous and possessive. It's hot and all but he doesn't really strike me as the jealous type. 

 

Like he'd be cool with having a casual third sometimes no big deal. He'd probably be really into seeing other men and women hit on her too. 

 

Oh no I'm being ridiculous again. 

 

I don't think he'd be jealous.  As others have said, I think he'd tend to get more sad about it if the Inquisitor were interested in another.  He might also distance himself, because encouraging her to pursue someone else would probably lead to less pain for her in the long run (even if it hurt him).  I think he might be amused if anyone else flirted with the Inquisitor with whom she wasn't flirting back, though.  Sort of:  "See, vhenan, they know how special you are, too, but you chose to pursue me instead."

 

I don't see him as being into threesomes... he seems to be a fairly private individual.  He might get pretty kinky one-on-one (who can say?), but he seems to prefer keeping what happens between himself and the Inquisitor, between himself and the Inquisitor.  Could he have been more open to that sort of thing/even having a harem in his younger, hot-blooded days?  I don't know.  But, I can say that it seems hard for him to forge a connection with anyone, and he seems to be the sort who wants that emotional bond with anyone he's going to be getting into bed with.  It's hard for me to picture him inviting an extra along with whom he does not already have an emotional connection.  Some people just prefer one-on-one relationships (and sex), while others don't.  And I think Solas is probably one of those one-on-one people.

 

The one actual wolf-like trait I attribute to Solas is that I think he'd be pretty loyal to his lover, and only take one lover at a time.  Wolves mate for life.  That's part of why I see him as being a one woman (or man, if he were bisexual) kind of guy.

 

To me, he's far too confident and comfortable in his own skin to get jealous. I see him as enjoying every second of attention someone else pays to her, because he knows who she goes home with at the end of the night.

He is pretty confident.  One might even go so far as to say he's arrogant.  He did name himself Pride after all... So yes, I think he'd be entertained watching others fawn over his loved one, but at the same time it would hurt his pride if he saw her flirt with someone else.  But getting jealous/angry/controlling over it?  Nah.  He'd just think that such a distraction from him would be better for her in the long run.

 

I'd imagine if there were a threesome he'd be picky as hell about it. Must be elven. Female preferred but not required. Don't be too dalish.

 

I don't even think he'd agree to one, because it takes quite a bit of effort, and connecting with him, to get him to be intimate at all--sure he's happy to kiss you in the Fade, but for anything more than that he has to actually like the Inquisitor personally.  The possible exception might be if he were at a brothel, where emotional entanglement wasn't a concern.  And yet, if he wanted just the sexual pleasure, he could probably enjoy that with some spirit or other in the Fade.  And knowing that... I think it's the emotional bond with an honest-to-goodness real person that is what matters.

 

Love isn't sex.  Sex is something you may or may not do with someone you romantically love.  Edit:  Or do casually without any love at all.  (But see above about how you have to get Solas to like you to even give you a second kiss in the real world...) So, I may be totally off on my guess.  I just imagine that if he did have sex with the Inquisitor, Solas would want it to be an intimate experience between the two of them, not between the two of them and someone else he didn't have the same kind of connection with (because let's face it, Lavellan is the only person with whom he seems to connect on a romantic level).

 

No idea if I'm making any sense at all...


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It was obvious to me that everything Felassan did was a fake, because it was so overly done.  Even the vallaslin, because now we know he can manipulate them.  The chewing on the tree bark, the picking of the itchweed... he was playing the fool all too well.  It was like he was trying to decide on a personality -- maybe because he had just woken up?

 

And the conversation with Imshael, "How have you been?"  "Well, you know."

 

No, Felassan knew much more than any servant, willing or otherwise, could have.  But we will agree to disagree.   :)  I would be willing to take bets, though.   ;)

 

Edit:  Oh, and as for saying something about Briala or even reacting -- you really think he'd blow his cover like that?  Naw.

 

Felassan had already been known to the Dalish for a while, and contrary to how Solas says the Dalish greeted him, Felassan seems rather... welcome, among them.  I almost wish he were Solas, because then, yay, Felassan lives!  But I just can't believe it.

 

As for bets, I bet on nothing.  All I have to go on is speculation, and nothing's a sure bet.  We also may never get an official answer, or it may be years in coming.  We only officially got word that Fiona is Alistair's mother shortly prior to the release of DA:I!  Sure, many already suspected or believed it, but it hadn't been confirmed.



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To me, he's far too confident and comfortable in his own skin to get jealous. I see him as enjoying every second of attention someone else pays to her, because he knows who she goes home with at the end of the night.

 

I think he really enjoys watching people realize how much of a force Lavellan is. He's confident, he knows that for now she is his and he is hers. He is honestly amazed by her. 

 

(Especially at the Winter Palace. We already know court intrigue excites him, mostly because it reminds him of home; it's familiar, easy - you could tell how comfortable he was there. I've said this a long time ago, but I think it's at the Winter Palace where he is so taken by how powerful she is. Lavellan is reigning in an entire empire and wrapping it around her pinky finger; she has stepped into a world so unlike her own and made it her ******. He's turned on by intelligence, and holy hell, you just know he's getting her into bed later. XD )


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I think that outfit really suit somehow Solas o.o'

I don't know why I can't take my eyes off, lol.

 

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It's probably because it shows off his figure more. I would be so happy to see Solas could wear Abelas' outfit.

 

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Come onnn body swapping with the mod tools. It'll get there eventually.

This may be terrible of me, but I'd love to see some artist's depiction of how Solas would look if he shouted ELVEN GLORY while doing it. I was not expecting that  at all when I talked to Sera on my first playthrough. I can totally see this serious, determined expression right before he shouts it. In elven, of course. 



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I think he really enjoys watching people realize how much of a force Lavellan is. He's confident, he knows that for now she is his and he is hers. He is honestly amazed by her. 

 

(Especially at the Winter Palace. We already know court intrigue excites him, mostly because it reminds him of home; it's familiar, easy - you could tell how comfortable he was there. I've said this a long time ago, but I think it's at the Winter Palace where he is so taken by how powerful she is. Lavellan is reigning in an entire empire and wrapping it around her pinky finger; she has stepped into a world so unlike her own and made it her ******. He's turned on by intelligence, and holy hell, you just know he's getting her into bed later. XD )

 

Well, I think he's already turned on at the Winter Palace.  You know how excited he is about that whole air of sex about the place.

 

Though as for having sex AT the Palace... I don't know, because first off he won't even risk dancing with you until you're finished with business, and then afterward there are dead bodies everywhere and that's just totally unromantic.  To achieve that goal, I would guess there'd be a lot of sneaking around the guest quarters to get to the Inquisitor's assigned rooms.  It's probably a couple weeks' ride to the Palace and back to Skyhold.

 

I think Numinera, my second Inquisitor, is more likely to do the deed with him in my headcanon.  Uth'shiral never did because she was too shy to ask and, well, Solas doesn't exactly press for anything relationship-wise.  He just seems happy to be in a relationship at all (happy and also unhappy).  I imagine Solas being terribly frustrated and maybe a little grumpy that after all that sexy stuff (to him) at the ball that got him totally high on power and intrigue and danger, she didn't approach him to ask if he'd meet her in her quarters later.  Or maybe in a tent at camp; he's probably not going to be picky, if she were to offer.



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Anyone need a Solavellan fic rec? My friend wrote a drabble (altho it kinda turned into a short story by how long it ended up lol). I really loved it because it has both fluff (i'm particularly fond of the scene she wrote for them in the study/fresco room) and nsfw stuff at the end and there's some pretty prose delving into Solas' thoughts. I highly recommend! 

 

It's on ao3 here :)


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It's probably because it shows off his figure more. I would be so happy to see Solas could wear Abelas' outfit.

 

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When we finally can swap mesh... Although.. I thin swapping mesh in game might be possible!!!



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Well, I think he's already turned on at the Winter Palace.  You know how excited he is about that whole air of sex about the place.

 

Though as for having sex AT the Palace... I don't know, because first off he won't even risk dancing with you until you're finished with business, and then afterward there are dead bodies everywhere and that's just totally unromantic.  To achieve that goal, I would guess there'd be a lot of sneaking around the guest quarters to get to the Inquisitor's assigned rooms.  It's probably a couple weeks' ride to the Palace and back to Skyhold.

 

I think Numinera, my second Inquisitor, is more likely to do the deed with him in my headcanon.  Uth'shiral never did because she was too shy to ask and, well, Solas doesn't exactly press for anything relationship-wise.  He just seems happy to be in a relationship at all (happy and also unhappy).  I imagine Solas being terribly frustrated and maybe a little grumpy that after all that sexy stuff (to him) at the ball that got him totally high on power and intrigue and danger, she didn't approach him to ask if he'd meet her in her quarters later.  Or maybe in a tent at camp; he's probably not going to be picky, if she were to offer.

There is always the fade and his cozy bedroom in Haven ;)



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Well, I think he's already turned on at the Winter Palace.  You know how excited he is about that whole air of sex about the place.

 

Though as for having sex AT the Palace... I don't know, because first off he won't even risk dancing with you until you're finished with business, and then afterward there are dead bodies everywhere and that's just totally unromantic.  To achieve that goal, I would guess there'd be a lot of sneaking around the guest quarters to get to the Inquisitor's assigned rooms.  It's probably a couple weeks' ride to the Palace and back to Skyhold.

 

I think Numinera, my second Inquisitor, is more likely to do the deed with him in my headcanon.  Uth'shiral never did because she was too shy to ask and, well, Solas doesn't exactly press for anything relationship-wise.  He just seems happy to be in a relationship at all (happy and also unhappy).  I imagine Solas being terribly frustrated and maybe a little grumpy that after all that sexy stuff (to him) at the ball that got him totally high on power and intrigue and danger, she didn't approach him to ask if he'd meet her in her quarters later.  Or maybe in a tent at camp; he's probably not going to be picky, if she were to offer.

 

 

I think sex is more implied with Solas. Since he and Cullen were late romances, there's not as much content for them, and therefore not necessarily eye candy scenes for us players. With Solas and Josephine, the actual sex act isn't as important as the emotional tie in the relationship itself. That being said, there's a couple lines of dialogue with Solas that says he and Lavellan are totally doing it. For example: "I am grim and morose. Getting you into bed is a side benefit"


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Well, I think he's already turned on at the Winter Palace.  You know how excited he is about that whole air of sex about the place.

 

Though as for having sex AT the Palace... I don't know, because first off he won't even risk dancing with you until you're finished with business, and then afterward there are dead bodies everywhere and that's just totally unromantic.  To achieve that goal, I would guess there'd be a lot of sneaking around the guest quarters to get to the Inquisitor's assigned rooms.  It's probably a couple weeks' ride to the Palace and back to Skyhold.

 

I think Numinera, my second Inquisitor, is more likely to do the deed with him in my headcanon.  Uth'shiral never did because she was too shy to ask and, well, Solas doesn't exactly press for anything relationship-wise.  He just seems happy to be in a relationship at all (happy and also unhappy).  I imagine Solas being terribly frustrated and maybe a little grumpy that after all that sexy stuff (to him) at the ball that got him totally high on power and intrigue and danger, she didn't approach him to ask if he'd meet her in her quarters later.  Or maybe in a tent at camp; he's probably not going to be picky, if she were to offer.

 

I'm torn by that too. I like to imagine that they both take to the forests surrounding the palace - or maybe there is a smaller estate a few miles off the Empress uses for her own personal use. 

 

I wonder if Solas told the announcer to say that he was her servant to stave off judgement? I think that's likely - he wouldn't want her to have less court approval. 



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Silly discussion time?

 

What do you all think Solas would dress like in modern day? How would your Lavellan dress?

 

Do you think Solas can play an instrument?


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Silly discussion time?

 

What do you all think Solas would dress like in modern day? How would your Lavellan dress?

 

Do you think Solas can play an instrument?

I imagine he would dress like a college professor during work, but at home or just walking down the streets he'd probably wear old jeans a few days in a row (tight ones, obviously) and sweaters and jackets with frayed sleeves. Sometimes with clashing colors. He'd have no street fashion sense. 

 

My Lavellan would probably wear obscenely bright clothes from Old Navy and never wear heels.

 

And I think Solas would probably be too busy painting murals on the walls of his house to play an instrument. If he did it would probably be a classical instrument. Piano or strings.

 

Edit: Oh, and he would teach ancient elven history at the local college (which explains why he dresses like a college professor) and Lavellan would be his new neighbor who teaches History of Thedas at a middle school. And...I think I'm going overboard.



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Silly discussion time?

 

What do you all think Solas would dress like in modern day? How would your Lavellan dress?

 

Do you think Solas can play an instrument?

I imagine him in jeans and a t-shirt with a grey trench coat, maybe a scarf. My Lavellan likes wearing dresses with flowers on them.

 

I can totally see Solas playing a violin.



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So, I have a wonder, based on the talk of who he believes his people are. Has this little snippet been chewed on before?

 

At the beginning of the game, Solas will remark on Lavellan's Dalish nature. If you question what he means by "crossed paths" he will reveal that he approached Dalish clans to share knowledge and was attacked for no better reason than their superstition.

 

How odd, no? In every game, when we approach the token Dalish clan, they are wary but they don't flat out attack us. They have always given a chance for parley, even to oh so filthy flat ears.

 

So, is he speaking of approaching them and being recognized as Fen'harel straight away and thus, being chased off and attacked? For them to know him on sight, it would have had to have been long before the Dalish were a thing, I think. We don't recognize him, and the Keeper in the plains doesn't either - if it were a keeper only thing. It could mean he tried to share some of the stuff he knows, and they attacked him for heresy or something. This could make sense, but again, the Dalish we've encountered have never been that incredibly knee-jerk hostile, even when their beliefs were challenged. Even Merril's clan can be talked down after the really bad thing she does.

 

That leads me to believe he approached some Dalish after he awoke, and tried introducing himself. He tried to make a connection and that was their reaction. Imagine if that is when he stopped seeing the Dalish as the remnants of his people, stopped believing he had a people at all anymore, as he fled away from elven arrows.

 

Welp, I just managed to make myself incredibly sad on his behalf. I'm so sorry, Solas. ; ;


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Silly discussion time?

 

What do you all think Solas would dress like in modern day? How would your Lavellan dress?

 

Do you think Solas can play an instrument?

 

He'd wear professor things like tweed suits, but then he'd break it out with something classy and hot like vests over shirts with rolled up sleeves.  My Lavellan would wear cute, flowy things outside, but enjoy her pajamas at home lol :3

 

Well, we know he can sing... he'd probably be able to play every instrument imaginable, the smooth jerk >_>



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Totally a pianist, or violinist! 

My Lavellan would be a total lolita goth and her Solas would be a prestigious professor with a lolita complex. 

Haha, I love the ways we encourage each other. <3



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Silly discussion time?

 

What do you all think Solas would dress like in modern day? How would your Lavellan dress?

 

Do you think Solas can play an instrument?

Solas would probably look fine as he is. Maybe change his vest into a winter vest or windbreaker but that's it. My clan interacts with humans more so we blend in with whatever modern clothing is passable with dalish accents and accessories. We're less likely to wear open-toe shoe ware though.



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So, I have a wonder, based on the talk of who he believes his people are. Has this little snippet been chewed on before?

 

At the beginning of the game, Solas will remark on Lavellan's Dalish nature. If you question what he means by "crossed paths" he will reveal that he approached Dalish clans to share knowledge and was attacked for no better reason than their superstition.

 

How odd, no? In every game, when we approach the token Dalish clan, they are wary but they don't flat out attack us. They have always given a chance for parley, even to oh so filthy flat ears.

 

So, is he speaking of approaching them and being recognized as Fen'harel straight away and thus, being chased off and attacked? For them to know him on sight, it would have had to have been long before the Dalish were a thing, I think. We don't recognize him, and the Keeper in the plains doesn't either - if it were a keeper only thing. It could mean he tried to share some of the stuff he knows, and they attacked him for heresy or something. This could make sense, but again, the Dalish we've encountered have never been that incredibly knee-jerk hostile, even when their beliefs were challenged. Even Merril's clan can be talked down after the really bad thing she does.

 

That leads me to believe he approached some Dalish after he awoke, and tried introducing himself. He tried to make a connection and that was their reaction. Imagine if that is when he stopped seeing the Dalish as the remnants of his people, stopped believing he had a people at all anymore, as he fled away from elven arrows.

 

Welp, I just managed to make myself incredibly sad on his behalf. I'm so sorry, Solas. ; ;

 

I always got the impression that he tried to "correct" their beliefs in his own abrupt, superior way and they got mad at him...  I guess I would too if a stranger started telling me I was wrong about my whole culture :3



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Anyone need a Solavellan fic rec? My friend wrote a drabble (altho it kinda turned into a short story by how long it ended up lol). I really loved it because it has both fluff (i'm particularly fond of the scene she wrote for them in the study/fresco room) and nsfw stuff at the end and there's some pretty prose delving into Solas' thoughts. I highly recommend! 

 

It's on ao3 here :)

 

I enjoyed that, thanks!

 

Silly discussion time?

 

What do you all think Solas would dress like in modern day? How would your Lavellan dress?

 

Do you think Solas can play an instrument?

 

Dressed?  Clothes?  I tend to not imagine him with clothes....

 

As for instruments maybe a theremin. ;)


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Double post sorry. ^_^  



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Silly discussion time?

 

What do you all think Solas would dress like in modern day? How would your Lavellan dress?

 

Do you think Solas can play an instrument?

 

I think his every day outfits would consist of simple worn in jeans, a nice retro style cotton shirt that is semi fitted but still flowy, sandals, and a leather wrist band. Maybe a simple necklace with a much smaller splinter of wolf bone. 

 

But when he needs to dress up, oh man. Oh man. He'll look like james bond if you take him to the opera.


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So, I have a wonder, based on the talk of who he believes his people are. Has this little snippet been chewed on before?

 

At the beginning of the game, Solas will remark on Lavellan's Dalish nature. If you question what he means by "crossed paths" he will reveal that he approached Dalish clans to share knowledge and was attacked for no better reason than their superstition.

 

How odd, no? In every game, when we approach the token Dalish clan, they are wary but they don't flat out attack us. They have always given a chance for parley, even to oh so filthy flat ears.

 

So, is he speaking of approaching them and being recognized as Fen'harel straight away and thus, being chased off and attacked? For them to know him on sight, it would have had to have been long before the Dalish were a thing, I think. We don't recognize him, and the Keeper in the plains doesn't either - if it were a keeper only thing. It could mean he tried to share some of the stuff he knows, and they attacked him for heresy or something. This could make sense, but again, the Dalish we've encountered have never been that incredibly knee-jerk hostile, even when their beliefs were challenged. Even Merril's clan can be talked down after the really bad thing she does.

 

That leads me to believe he approached some Dalish after he awoke, and tried introducing himself. He tried to make a connection and that was their reaction. Imagine if that is when he stopped seeing the Dalish as the remnants of his people, stopped believing he had a people at all anymore, as he fled away from elven arrows.

 

Welp, I just managed to make myself incredibly sad on his behalf. I'm so sorry, Solas. ; ;

I was just thinking about this when I encountered it on my whatever playthrough (I've lost count) and my Lavellan actually ignored him.  He says something like, "Oh, guess you don't feel like talking...", all rejected like.  It was worth ignoring him after what he did... does, I mean.  Yes.

In the conversation you're speaking of -- by saying 'crossed paths', it does seem like his distaste for the Dalish comes from how cruelly they received him.  Imagine, being who he is, but being treated as a city elf by the Dalish, a lesser creature.  I don't think his ego could stand such a reception.  I think he does genuinely start out with good intentions but his pride has a way of poisoning him against that intention, which can be slightly... villain, or martyr.  He's a martyr-villain.



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Went ahead and finished my second playthrough 'cause I was getting bored with the side zones. I don't think I've ever played a Dragon Age character that was forced to face this much personal challenge and introspection. It's really quite cool. What a phenomenal story!

 

It's also funny, when my character agreed to have her tattoos removed, I thought "Er, I guess I should have made sure I liked how she looked without the tattoo's too" .. but the new look is really growing on me. It's like an outward symbol of how she feels like she's a different person. The world is new and she is new; she's starting over.

 

I have a friend who is playing through the Dragon Age games. I'll have to see if I can nudge her towards the Solas romance on her first playthrough without spoiling too much.

 

I'm super jealous of those of you who played this romance story first! I can only imagine those feels.


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