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Why am I so passionate about a video game?

 

Same reason someone would be passionate about any hobby. I think video games have a lot of potential for human experiences. It forces someone to become a lot more emotionally invested by the fact that you must pretend to be the player character. You ARE them. When someone plays a game they say "I just fell down" and sometimes even say "own" then their character is hurt. You see a movie and "they got hurt", or "they fell down". It almost forces instant empathy and emotional investment.

 

That is such a powerful tool to telling a story. Sure it has it's draw backs when someone is forced to do something they would never do. But it has so much potential and I think relatively few developers take advantage of that emotional aspect in story telling.


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I think he would. I would love to see his reaction. I think a jealous Solas would be hot.

 

I don't think he'd necessarily be jealous, but more... I don't know... mad that she chose to be with a human instead of an elf???  Like, I can see him being a sad puppy if she choose an elf after him like "yes, you definitely deserved better than me," but a human?  I can't imagine that would go over well :3

 

Solas is so passionate about things whew...


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So, there's a weird texture bug when Solas has certain armor upgrades on him. The apprentice legs and arms seem to give his feet and hands an instant tan when you put them on. Not far enough into this playthrough to verify if it happens with other types of arm/leg upgrades, but it's pretty odd looking.

 

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I don't think he'd necessarily be jealous, but more... I don't know... mad that she chose to be with a human instead of an elf??? Like, I can see him being a sad puppy if she choose an elf after him like "yes, you definitely deserved better than me," but a human? I can't imagine that would go over well :3

Solas is so passionate about things whew...

Yes he really is!And his VA does an amazing job delivering this reserved passion,in each line when he talks about something that interests him.I'm currently on my completionist canon playthrough where I'm romancing him and just had that discussion about the veil.I chose the "this sounds strange"and his reply rather passionate,with a hint of anger and wistfulness.
Needless to say I wasnt really prepared for this.
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I don't think he'd necessarily be jealous, but more... I don't know... mad that she chose to be with a human instead of an elf???  Like, I can see him being a sad puppy if she choose an elf after him like "yes, you definitely deserved better than me," but a human?  I can't imagine that would go over well :3

 

Solas is so passionate about things whew...

 

I wonder if it would hurt his opinion of her. I think his dialogue with Trevelyan if she is romancing Sera suggests a bit of bitterness that Sera's not romancing an elf. I definitely think he'd be mad, but I can't tell if he'd think less of Lavellan or less of himself...? As in, "I thought you were better than that," or if he'd be arrogant enough to think, "oh man I hurt her so badly she's driven away entirely from elves what have I done?!"

 

Then again he isn't mad if Lavellan romances Blackwall in the first place IIRC so...don't know...? Might depend on whether it's a temporary thing or not. I imagine if she had a child with a human he'd be pretty disgusted.

 

When you figure out why, let us know.....I stopped searching for a reason. As soon as I find the sound clip, I am totally having Solas telling me to wake up be my alarm....

 

When you find this please share :D

 

Same reason someone would be passionate about any hobby. I think video games have a lot of potential for human experiences. It forces someone to become a lot more emotionally invested by the fact that you must pretend to be the player character. You ARE them. When someone plays a game they say "I just fell down" and sometimes even say "own" then their character is hurt. You see a movie and "they got hurt", or "they fell down". It almost forces instant empathy and emotional investment.

 

That is such a powerful tool to telling a story. Sure it has it's draw backs when someone is forced to do something they would never do. But it has so much potential and I think relatively few developers take advantage of that emotional aspect in story telling.

 

Which is a darn shame. BW doesn't even know what it has: I'd throw so much money at them if they capitalized more on their merchandizing and DLC. If they released a wolf jawbone pendant... I would be embarrassed to admit how much I'd pay for that. Anyway, regarding the rest you're totally correct. I did a major research paper on this topic in undergrad and while I can't say it was a very good paper, there's a lot of neat stuff about how unique video games are and their potential as not just entertainment but art and 'literature'.


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I don't think I've ever fully appreciated how beautiful the Hissing Wastes are before. With the enormous moon and the clear desert skies. You can look up into the sky and see forever. And just as I was thinking about that, Cole and Solas launched into this conversation about the stars. It was amazing.

 

 

And then a few minutes later poor Solas starts coughing because of the dry air. I really wanted to give him a hug. Or at least a cough drop.

 

 

I've never gotten these banters/comments before. I love this game so much. Sometimes everything just comes together so organically. With PSN down I think I'm gonna take Solas out to do some more stargazing.


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I just heard Solas asking Varric about tricksters in dwarven literature...ahaha... :P


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It's a pity we didn't get to hear Solas sing, GDL has a great voice:


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When you find this please share :D

 

 

Someone had posted it on tumblr. I just had to dig for it. Now I can add it to itunes and set it as my alarm. *hums happily* Now...if only I had the motivation to string "wake-up" With the slight chuckle he makes and "Sleep well?"

 

Mmmmm


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I got a moment with Solas today that was lovely- though wasted on my human Mage. I had her drink from the well so we went to go tame the dragon. I brought Solas thinking he might have something interesting to say, and he did.

It would have been a nice moment for my Lavellan, and I may drink from the well with her when I get that far just for this.

But basically you get there and you're like I feel it and he says yes, I feel it too. Then at the altar you say part of an invocation and he finishes it for you and compliments your translation. It's a really lovely moment, sort of a bonding thing I thought.
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I just can't bring myself to drink from the well.....but then again, I'm not fond of being told what to do, let alone being controlled.



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It may be a time and assets factor for them both, sure. But it doesn't not make sense for them to have the gating that they do. If they had made Sera refuse a female elf, that likewise would have made sense for her in its own way. And I still say considering who Solas appears to be, it's not a stretch to imagine he'd only be interested in elves, or that Cullen's lack of exposure to dwarves and qunari makes them too unfamiliar for him to find attractive in that way.

 

Actually, it would have been very interesting if Sera would flat out refuse to romance an elf. She's able to see past it enough to see the person and not the ears, but still. And I guess she does break up with an elf that refuses to renounce her religion and beliefs? Yeah, how's that gonna work post-Mythal meeting? :lol: I should go look that up on Youtube.

 

Happy Holidays to everyone, by the way. You've been an awesome group of people to spend the last year-or-so with while waiting for the game. And for offering cocoa and understanding after the game. :P

Wow, seriously?  She breaks up with an elf who refuses to give up her religion?

 

While it's realistic, it's still messed up.  I wonder if it's because the humans who raised her were particularly against elves, etc?  Another poster brought up that Sera seems to have a lot of self-loathing.  If the humans who raised her taught her that all of this elven stuff was bad, but SHE was fine because she's "just people," well... it would explain so very much about her.

 

And yet, deep as her character may be, I still don't like her because my Lavellan thought they were friends, and was sad about the vallaslin conversation, and she just laughed at her, mocked her... It was horrible.


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I just can't bring myself to drink from the well.....but then again, I'm not fond of being told what to do, let alone being controlled.


I did it only because of... Certain developments. For science.
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Does anyone else think Solas would be a little miffed if Lavellan, after their break-up, eventually got together with a human?  Just from some of his dialogue about humans, he seems like he might think her dating a human was "beneath" her.

 

Hm, probably.  I picture my Lavellan moving on in time and possibly finding someone else if there isn't any resolution between her and Solas and/or they don't get back together.  It seems likely that she'd end up with a human now that she's firmly established in human society (and doesn't carry much prejudice against humans after everything).  I wouldn't want her pining over someone for the rest of her life (especially since I headcanon that she's in her lower 20's).

 

If Solas will become jealous and bothered that she's with a human, it really isn't her concern, though.  He broke it off, so what she does afterwards is her business, not his.  I think his reaction would be complicated.  I'd like to think that he'd be happy that she's happy, though sad that it could not work between them in the end.  That she'd be with a human, he could be bothered because he wants her to have "better".

 

Unrelated, but behold creeper!Solas in my new human playthrough.  Creeping in the background, not saying a word in Val Royeaux.  I wish he said more and had more content (and not just in Val Royeaux, but in general) :(

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I just can't bring myself to drink from the well.....but then again, I'm not fond of being told what to do, let alone being controlled.

 

I think when the major bugs (Dorian why don't you let me do your companion quest) have been fixed and I do my completion/canon run, I'm going to just stop right before the Temple. I'll wait for DLC and then decide whether or not to drink. Is that wrong? I feel like it might be wrong >.>

 

also I don't wanna go through that last scene...

 

Happy Music Time!

 

This is the song that I would like the end (End, end, as in what we haven't seen yet) of the Solavellan romance arc to fit, if that makes sense.

 

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there's a short duet version too:

 

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Wow, seriously?  She breaks up with an elf who refuses to give up her religion?

 

While it's realistic, it's still messed up.  I wonder if it's because the humans who raised her were particularly against elves, etc?  Another poster brought up that Sera seems to have a lot of self-loathing.  If the humans who raised her taught her that all of this elven stuff was bad, but SHE was fine because she's "just people," well... it would explain so very much about her.

 

And yet, deep as her character may be, I still don't like her because my Lavellan thought they were friends, and was sad about the vallaslin conversation, and she just laughed at her, mocked her... It was horrible.

 

My Inq was in the same boat. Nhyme wanted to knock her out for that conversation. No more roof cookies. I even came close to kicking her out of the Inquisition just out of the hurt from it. In that moment, Sera came off as the most insensitive prat ever. Even worse than Vivi. I REALLY needed the option to have my mage hold a ball of fire and ask her to laugh ONE. MORE. TIME. Or to have my rogue flat out punch her. No one with a soul does that to their friend. It's called have some effing sympathy. Even if that sympathy is an offer to break the guy's face and get the friend shitfaced drunk.


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I don't think Solas would be too bothered by Lavellan being with a human.  He might disapprove, but I don't think he'd be enraged or jealous or anything, especially since he's the one who broke things off.  While I think he might be a bit disapproving (that human can never truly understand you, elves are different--and to some degree he might be right because elves have more of a connection to the Fade than humans), I also think he'd be pleased that Lavellan found happiness without him.  He might even feel relieved that she was able to move on, since it would free him from the guilt of believing he'd made her give up on love or that he'd somehow caused her to wait for him for the rest of her life.


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When you figure out why, let us know.....I stopped searching for a reason. As soon as I find the sound clip, I am totally having Solas telling me to wake up be my alarm....

ring tone!



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ring tone!

 

If I do splice it together tomorrow, then I'll post a link people can load it....since I don't think I'm the only one that would want it for an alarm.


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Why don't I ever get the fun bugs?

 

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http://cullen4tors.t...gs-in-this-game


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Damn but this Anders song fits Solas romance to a T

 


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Wow, seriously?  She breaks up with an elf who refuses to give up her religion?

 

While it's realistic, it's still messed up.  I wonder if it's because the humans who raised her were particularly against elves, etc?  Another poster brought up that Sera seems to have a lot of self-loathing.  If the humans who raised her taught her that all of this elven stuff was bad, but SHE was fine because she's "just people," well... it would explain so very much about her.

 

And yet, deep as her character may be, I still don't like her because my Lavellan thought they were friends, and was sad about the vallaslin conversation, and she just laughed at her, mocked her... It was horrible.

 

Sera is... remarkably closed-minded for someone who claims to be some kind of champion for the downtrodden and personal freedoms.  She really isn't so different from the nobles she hates in that she's unwilling to look beyond and understand anything outside what she's used to.  It's also really hard to like her when playing as an elf- she takes internalized racism to a whole new level.  Similar to Vivienne, I'm liking her more while playing as a human.


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Why am I so passionate about a video game?

I wish I could be as passionate about my actual life as I can be about fictional worlds and characters. lol

 

Speaking of Solas and Cole - I am totally siding with the Templars with my newest Lavellan so I can get Cole ASAP and make him and Solas permanent party members. I dunno who our tank will be, though. Maybe Blackwall. I hardly ever take him out with me, and I know some of his banters with Solas can be funny (particularly if you have Sera in your party too).



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The banter where Blackwall talks to Solas about having sex with spirits...priceless. Wish my Inq could respond and laugh.


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I wish I could be as passionate about my actual life as I can be about fictional worlds and characters. lol

 

Speaking of Solas and Cole - I am totally siding with the Templars with my newest Lavellan so I can get Cole ASAP and make him and Solas permanent party members. I dunno who our tank will be, though. Maybe Blackwall. I hardly ever take him out with me, and I know some of his banters with Solas can be funny (particularly if you have Sera in your party too).

But Solas doesn't like the templars! D: