153455 réponses à ce sujet

[AryBoBary]

To be honest I entirely support this :|

Even a general letter, not only Solas centered.

 

We rant here, because people listen to us here, but they don't even know how we are feeling about this.

I doubt somebody visits the threads and checks on how much angst we've gathered here.

 

Tragedy is good in places, but not all the freakin' time. Tragic is sometimes better when there is a happy ending afterwards (sometimes, like this time).

 

We should make our voices be heard.

 

I'm sure we could start an online petition at Change.org.  This is WORTH IT. 

[Uirebhiril]

I'm sure we could start an online petition at Change.org.  This is WORTH IT. 

 

That.... miiiight be taking it a bit far.

[RynJ]

It'd be nice if we could communicate what you all are saying somehow, yes. The male romances are always the ones that have these kinds of endings or unpleasant elements. Brass_Buckles was right that straight male players never have this kind of stuff happen with their romances and that many would raise holy hell if it did. The only one I can think of is Morrigan, and I distinctly remember a massive amount of fits being pitched over how her romance ended and then we got Witch Hunt.

[LliiraAnna]

I'm sure we could start an online petition at Change.org.  This is WORTH IT. 

As crazy as it sounds... I'd sign it. 

[Cheerios789]

It'd be nice if we could communicate what you all are saying somehow, yes. The male romances are always the ones that have these kinds of endings or unpleasant elements. Brass_Buckles was right that straight male players never have this kind of stuff happen with their romances and that many would raise holy hell if they did. The only one I can think of is Morrigan, and I distinctly remember a massive amount of fits being pitched over how her romance ended and then we got Witch Hunt.

 

I don't know.  I'm scared about complaining, because I'm not sure what I would be protesting.  My grievances can be boiled down to one brilliant fact. 

 

I love Solas.

 

I love the romance.

 

I love the big beautiful mythological setting and world-shaking consequences surrounding their dynamic.

 

I am upset we don't have closure and yes I do want need that.  But I don't want to complain, because I love this whole mess so very much.  I am floored that we all feel so incredibly strongly towards this fictional character.  It's not simply because he is literally a god, but also the tangible connection we feel towards him.  He feels real and alive.  I need more characters like him and I don't want to complain, because my complaint is "he's too real". 

 

I know the other romances are nice, but they don't have the same feel about them.  I don't feel like I am breathing life into my character when I interact with them.  It's like "and then Trevalyan snogged Cullen on the balcony and it was awesome."  It is awesome, but it feels like a story versus the feeling of actual passion and, yes, tragedy with Solas.  I don't really wonder what would happen after the game is over with the other romances.  I have a little headcannon, but that's it.  With Lavellan and Solas though I can't stop thinking about it.  I want to know more about him and I want to know more about her.  He makes me care about my own character.

 

Of course, I am aware how fangirly this all sounds.  And, yes, I did feel similarly with Garrus.  But that's my point ... I don't want to rock this boat because I freaking love the writing and character development.  It makes me fangirlly and silly and passionate.

 

I love you guys though.  You make this all better.

[Shari'El]

I'm sure we could start an online petition at Change.org.  This is WORTH IT. 

...

I'd sign that :X

 

 

It'd be nice if we could communicate what you all are saying somehow, yes. The male romances are always the ones that have these kinds of endings or unpleasant elements. Brass_Buckles was right that straight male players never have this kind of stuff happen with their romances and that many would raise holy hell if it did. The only one I can think of is Morrigan, and I distinctly remember a massive amount of fits being pitched over how her romance ended and then we got Witch Hunt.

 

I really think we should pass that information on to them, I've seen all of the colors of the tragic rainbow & while it is sometimes a fitting ending, they really need to stop playing that card. I already said that if there'll be a DLC with Quizzy killing Solas or Solas dying I'd rage quit, it's still true.

[AryBoBary]

*snip*

 

A friend asked me why I liked Solas so much, and you basically said exactly what I did (but far more eloquently than I, because of face-smashing the keyboard with all my feels.)

 

The romance felt intrinsic, difficult, surreal, and other-worldly.  Not to mention tied directly to the main story-line, and my Levellan's heritage.  Everything she knows about her world, "the People", has been a series of ill-fitted puzzle pieces in a life of seclusion and fear.  To understand herself, she needs to understand where she came from, and Solas is that link.  To have him leave without closure is cruel on many levels.

 

FANGIRLS, UNITE! 

[Shari'El]

I don't know.  I'm scared about complaining, because I'm not sure what I would be protesting.  My grievances can be boiled down to one brilliant fact. 

 

I love Solas.

 

I love the romance.

 

I love the big beautiful mythological setting and world-shaking consequences surrounding their dynamic.

 

I am upset we don't have closure and yes I do want need that.  But I don't want to complain, because I love this whole mess so very much.  I am floored that we all feel so incredibly strongly towards this fictional character.  It's not simply because he is literally a god, but also the tangible connection we feel towards him.  He feels real and alive.  I need more characters like him and I don't want to complain, because my complaint is "he's too real". 

 

I know the other romances are nice, but they don't have the same feel about them.  I don't feel like I am breathing life into my character when I interact with them.  It's like "and then Trevalyan snogged Cullen on the balcony and it was awesome."  It is awesome, but it feels like a story versus the feeling of actual passion and, yes, tragedy with Solas.  I don't really wonder what would happen after the game is over with the other romances.  I have a little headcannon, but that's it.  With Lavellan and Solas though I can't stop thinking about it.  I want to know more about him and I want to know more about her.  He makes me care about my own character.

 

Of course, I am aware how fangirly this all sounds.  And, yes, I did feel similarly with Garrus.  But that's my point ... I don't want to rock this boat because I freaking love the writing and character development.  It makes me fangirlly and silly and passionate.

 

I love you guys though.  You make this all better.

 

The tragedy in Solas romance wasn't what made the romance (IMHO), the writing of the character did. The character himself - Solas, did. I felt connected to him from the first PT (with a female dwarf) and not because he was a god, I didn't even know that about him! When he left I felt really sad, my dwarf lost a valuable friend and I lost a really good character. Now, with Lavellan.. After the 3rd romance scene I pretty much fell apart and found myself on this thread.

 

The tragedy is what made this thread so full with angst and made us so pessimistic :<

Solas is written so well that even a happy ending would've caused lots of feels.

I think that having a tragedy & then a happy ending with him is the best storywise and feelwise (think of the drama!!), the tragedy adds a little somethingsomething that adds to their romance, but only if they fill in this expectation. If they'll never address it, I'll have a hard time playing any more DA games.

[SamanthaJ]

You know, the ending of the romance will actually be less...I don't know if cliche is the right word, but couples in the Solavellan situation often don't have a happy ending. It would be more unusual and rewarding if, even if we have to take same amount as effort as it takes for a mage/non--human with Alistair (except no having Solas sleep with other women cause I am so done with that ****) to get there, they actually got to have at least something like a happy ending. 

 

And I kind of do think the developers of these games do need to be made more aware that romance options for straight women are more likely to end in tragedy than options for straight men and contain annoying tropes.

 

Like I said on the other thread: no cheating, no inevitable death, and no dead wives (or at least do these things in smaller numbers and spread them around...except the dead wives. No more dead wives ever.)

[CapricornSun]

I don't know.  I'm scared about complaining, because I'm not sure what I would be protesting.  My grievances can be boiled down to one brilliant fact. 

 

I love Solas.

 

I love the romance.

 

I love the big beautiful mythological setting and world-shaking consequences surrounding their dynamic.

 

I am upset we don't have closure and yes I do want need that.  But I don't want to complain, because I love this whole mess so very much.  I am floored that we all feel so incredibly strongly towards this fictional character.  It's not simply because he is literally a god, but also the tangible connection we feel towards him.  He feels real and alive.  I need more characters like him and I don't want to complain, because my complaint is "he's too real". 

 

I know the other romances are nice, but they don't have the same feel about them.  I don't feel like I am breathing life into my character when I interact with them.  It's like "and then Trevalyan snogged Cullen on the balcony and it was awesome."  It is awesome, but it feels like a story versus the feeling of actual passion and, yes, tragedy with Solas.  I don't really wonder what would happen after the game is over with the other romances.  I have a little headcannon, but that's it.  With Lavellan and Solas though I can't stop thinking about it.  I want to know more about him and I want to know more about her.  He makes me care about my own character.

 

Of course, I am aware how fangirly this all sounds.  And, yes, I did feel similarly with Garrus.  But that's my point ... I don't want to rock this boat because I freaking love the writing and character development.  It makes me fangirlly and silly and passionate.

 

I love you guys though.  You make this all better.

 

 

A friend asked me why I liked Solas so much, and you basically said exactly what I did (but far more eloquently than I, because of face-smashing the keyboard with all my feels.)

 

The romance felt intrinsic, difficult, surreal, and other-worldly.  Not to mention tied directly to the main story-line, and my Levellan's heritage.  Everything she knows about her world, "the People", has been a series of ill-fitted puzzle pieces in a life of seclusion and fear.  To understand herself, she needs to understand where she came from, and Solas is that link.  To have him leave without closure is cruel on many levels.

 

FANGIRLS, UNITE! 

 

The tragedy in Solas romance wasn't what made the romance (IMHO), the writing of the character did. The character himself - Solas, did. I felt connected to him from the first PT (with a female dwarf) and not because he was a god, I didn't even know that about him! When he left I felt really sad, my dwarf lost a valuable friend and I lost a really good character. Now, with Lavellan.. After the 3rd romance scene I pretty much fell apart and found myself on this thread.

 

The tragedy is what made this thread so full with angst and made us so pessimistic :<

Solas is written so well that even a happy ending would've caused lots of feels.

I think that having a tragedy & then a happy ending with him is the best storywise and feelwise (think of the drama!!), the tragedy adds a little somethingsomething that adds to their romance, but only if they fill in this expectation. If they'll never address it, I'll have a hard time playing any more DA games.

 

You all get my likes!   Beautifully said!

 

And yes, I think after the tragedy of his romance, I think a happy ending of sorts would be the best thing to happen storywise. After all those obstacles they have to face, all those tears shed, and after all the heartbreak... God, that would be nice.

 

But will we get that happy ending? Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe it'll all end in tragedy. I hope not. I don't think I could take it if everything ends with us killing Solas or Solas dying for whatever reason.

 

If the worst scenario actually happened, I'll probably fall into a pit of depression again. Maybe even longer than the depression I felt after ending ME3. I don't think my heart could take it.

[Cheerios789]

The tragedy in Solas romance wasn't what made the romance (IMHO), the writing of the character did. The character himself - Solas, did. I felt connected to him from the first PT (with a female dwarf) and not because he was a god, I didn't even know that about him! When he left I felt really sad, my dwarf lost a valuable friend and I lost a really good character. Now, with Lavellan.. After the 3rd romance scene I pretty much fell apart and found myself on this thread.

 

The tragedy is what made this thread so full with angst and made us so pessimistic :<

Solas is written so well that even a happy ending would've caused lots of feels.

I think that having a tragedy & then a happy ending with him is the best storywise and feelwise (think of the drama!!), the tragedy adds a little somethingsomething that adds to their romance, but only if they fill in this expectation. If they'll never address it, I'll have a hard time playing any more DA games.

 

I agree that the tragedy is not what made the romance.  I completely agree. 

 

However, I feel like the tragedy aspect swings around because of the "Solas is too real" part.  Many of the companions you can change and "fix" with a simple mission or a well said argument.  But how often is that actually the case in real-life? 

 

Morrigan is an example that gets thrown around alot and I agree with it.  You can't change Morrigan.  She is who she is and you can only breach the emotional barrier and not her ideals.  I like that a lot and I'm not even a big Morrigan fan.  Thane also gets thrown around, but I find that lacking a bit.  He seemed one-dimensional to me.  I mean I liked him, but not because he felt "real". 

 

I think the breakup was inevitable and it had to happen, but I do honestly believe there will be closure.  We just don't have it yet.  Solas is too dynamic and the only barrier we were able to slip into was his emotional one and I do think that will have consequences (for any "friendly" quizzy).

 

Now if I'm wrong and we don't get closure ... I will flip my sh*t.  I will seriously flip out.  Hell nor Void has no fury like my Lavellan scorned.  I will man the trebuchets right alongside you.  However, I'm giving Bioware the benefit of the doubt here.  Remember when everyone was all pissy about the DLCs coming out too early for DA2?  I think they already have a DLC raring to go and are simply biding their sweet money grubbing time.  I mean ... I hope so.  Because I have so many monies just waiting to be spent.

 

But good god almighty the writing ... ugh so delicious.  I cannot get over it... I'm dying again.

[AryBoBary]

You all get my likes!   Beautifully said!

 

And yes, I think after the tragedy of his romance, I think a happy ending of sorts would be the best thing to happen storywise. After all those obstacles they have to face, all those tears shed, and after all the heartbreak... God, that would be nice.

 

But will we get that happy ending? Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe it'll all end in tragedy. I hope not. I don't think I could take it if everything ends with us killing Solas or Solas dying for whatever reason.

 

If the worst scenario actually happened, I'll probably fall into a pit of depression again. Maybe even longer than the depression I felt after ending ME3. I don't think my heart could take it.

 

When Thane died... I sobbed.  I legit ugly-cried.  Fast-forward to the ending of ME3, I sat in stunned silence.  I couldn't move... the credits rolled, and that SONG, you know the one, began to play, and I just, sat there.  Once I got over the shock, my face started to leak, and didn't stop until my eyes were swollen shut and my face was raw.

 

I may be a little more emotionally-involved in video games than I'd like to admit.  *shrug* Tis what it is. 

[Shari'El]

You know, the ending of the romance will actually be less...I don't know if cliche is the right word, but couples in the Solavellan situation often don't have a happy ending. It would be more unusual and rewarding if, even if we have to take same amount as effort as it takes for a mage/non--human with Alistair (except no having Solas sleep with other women cause I am so done with that ****) to get there, they actually got to have at least something like a happy ending. 

 

And I kind of do think the developers of these games do need to be made more aware that romance options for straight women are more likely to end in tragedy than options for straight men and contain annoying tropes.

 

Like I said on the other thread: no cheating, no inevitable death, and no dead wives (or at least do these things in smaller numbers and spread them around...except the dead wives. No more dead wives ever.)

 

Yes, that's a good idea. I thought about that as well. It shouldn't come naturally, but there should be an option for a good ending :/

My canon DAO PT had a noble fem!dwarf who became Alistair's mistress, it felt very rewarding. This romance is complex, Solas is very complex, it shouldn't be happily ever after in default, you need to put your mind into it.

 

At first I thought I've done something wrong with my Solas romance, that's why I got to this thread in the first place, "can you avoid Solas dumping you?", I asked "no", said google.

[_Lucinia]

When Thane died... I sobbed.  I legit ugly-cried.  Fast-forward to the ending of ME3, I sat in stunned silence.  I couldn't move... the credits rolled, and that SONG, you know the one, began to play, and I just, sat there.  Once I got over the shock, my face started to leak, and didn't stop until my eyes were swollen shut and my face was raw.

 

I may be a little more emotionally-involved in video games than I'd like to admit.  *shrug* Tis what it is. 

That was me as well.  I actually sobbed through most of ME3.  So many bittersweet moments (Rannoch and Tuchanka, uggggh so many tears.)  The end wrecked me.  I couldn't even see the screen because I was crying so hard.  One of those ugly cries where your throat hurts.  And for weeks, every time THAT song played I would be a sobbing mess.  The end of Citadel DLC, I was again a mess.  lol

My love for (fem)Shepard is ridiculous.  She's one of my favorite characters in anything.  ME3 was so difficult for me.

 

[what-the-honk]

You know, the ending of the romance will actually be less...I don't know if cliche is the right word, but couples in the Solavellan situation often don't have a happy ending. It would be more unusual and rewarding if, even if we have to take same amount as effort as it takes for a mage/non--human with Alistair (except no having Solas sleep with other women cause I am so done with that ****) to get there, they actually got to have at least something like a happy ending. 

 

And I kind of do think the developers of these games do need to be made more aware that romance options for straight women are more likely to end in tragedy than options for straight men and contain annoying tropes.

 

Like I said on the other thread: no cheating, no inevitable death, and no dead wives (or at least do these things in smaller numbers and spread them around...except the dead wives. No more dead wives ever.)

 

yeah i agree. like i understand that some people might be wanting a tragic ending or bittersweet ending because, yknow, "realism" or whatever (i honestly dont know why ppl demand realism in a game with DRAGONS, ANCIENT ELVES and MAGIC) but i love happy endings. i friggin love cheesy good romantic happy endings and i think that if we pay f*ck-knows-how-much money on a game and additional dlc then by god we deserve to get that cheesy good romantic happy endin with solas.

 

i think that if bioware can pull off lost societies, ancient magical lore, ****-tons of foreshadowing, and multiple wide expansive and diverse areas then they can pull off an unlikely romance ending.

[Shari'El]

I think the breakup was inevitable and it had to happen, but I do honestly believe there will be closure.  We just don't have it yet.  Solas is too dynamic and the only barrier we were able to slip into was his emotional one and I do think that will have consequences (for any "friendly" quizzy).

 

 

I think the tragedy was inevitable as well (circumstances...) but a forever alone ending is not inevitable.

I don't know which is worse - them no addressing the romance at all (no DLC/irelevant DLC/DLC without any mention of the romance) or that romance is addressed but Lavellan needs to kill Solas :|

[what-the-honk]

thinking about it, i kinda want solas to like ask u to come back to him and apologise and whatnot and u get the choice to either reject him because he just did TOO much damage or to accept and run off with him or whatever

 

god im just thinking about rejecting solas and how heart-broken he would look oh ohohhoho i love it when he looks sad its so heart-wrenching

 

ALSO a question, do you think that after the solas dlc he'd return as a companion??? do you think that he should??

 

i mean you can play dragon age even after the campaign, that's something they havent done before, it'd be nice to see him return.

[SamanthaJ]

Will I get in trouble if I point out that "Take the Dread Wolf by the ear if he comes" is now kind of a dirty saying? Woof.

[Jackal19851111]

How are you supposed to have a happy ending with Solas?

 

Either than well, something like this lol:

[scintilla]

ALSO a question, do you think that after the solas dlc he'd return as a companion??? do you think that he should??

 

i mean you can play dragon age even after the campaign, that's something they havent done before, it'd be nice to see him return.

 

Only if he loses the power he took from Mythal. Right now he's a 'god' with the power of a 'god' and he's basically too powerful to be a consistent ally to the heroes. He can do what Flemythal did and nudge, he can remain uninvolved entirely, or he can lose the power if he's to rejoin the Inquisition.

[MidgetNemo]

See I don´t expect much when it comes to the happy ending part,although I don´t think he´ll be the "big bad" probably something like what happened with Anders,with him doing something game changing and the inquisitor being able to react to it, I doubt they would kill him off after one game,maybe he´ll end up as Morrigan? At the same time female romances do have a tendency to end badly so I don´t know

[AWTEW]

See I don´t expect much when it comes to the happy ending part,although I don´t think he´ll be the "big bad" probably something like what happened with Anders,with him doing something game changing and the inquisitor being able to react to it, I doubt they would kill him off after one game,maybe he´ll end up as Morrigan? At the same time female romances do have a tendency to end badly so I don´t know

As long as it's not another Jacob scenario..

[MidgetNemo]

As long as it's not another Jacob scenario..

You find out that the reason he´s doing all of this is because Andruil is carrying his baby and they´re madly() in love?

[scintilla]

You find out that the reason he´s doing all of this is because Andruil is carrying his baby and they´re madly( ) in love?

 

She's better for him and she knows it!

[AryBoBary]

You find out that the reason he´s doing all of this is because Andruil is carrying his baby and they´re madly( ) in love?

 

OMG.  I would literally throw my shoe into my monitor if that were the case...