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[AryBoBary]

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Except Solas apparently only absorbed Flemeth's power, not the essence of godhood. I'm pretty sure that part was put into the Eluvian. If anything we'll be bound to Morrigan since Mythal's essence is supposed to go to her.

 

I really hope there won't be too many kinky fics about it. Solas would hate it if the Well of Sorrows thing actually did lead to her being bound to him because he would have power over her will. And it would bring up consent issues as well which is the thing I really, really, really despise about a lot of Solas fanfiction that's out there. There are already so many painfully OOC fics...ugh.

 

I'd like to think it would play a very interesting role in any future romance between the two of them.  If it was spun tastefully and artistically, I believe a fic could play out in a very non-rapey way, and stick with Solas' character.

 

I do agree with the non-consent issue, however.

[Sashimi_taco]

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Except Solas apparently only absorbed Flemeth's power, not the essence of godhood. I'm pretty sure that part was put into the Eluvian. If anything we'll be bound to Morrigan since Mythal's essence is supposed to go to her.

 

I really hope there won't be too many kinky fics about it. Solas would hate it if the Well of Sorrows thing actually did lead to her being bound to him because he would have power over her will. And it would bring up consent issues as well which is the thing I really, really, really despise about a lot of Solas fanfiction that's out there. There are already so many painfully OOC fics...ugh.

 

You're right. I think if it does come into play, he just makes the same promise is mythal to just leave you alone. 

 

 

I have my canon solas who is a good person. and my non canon solas. I forget everyone else is not knowing what i'm thinking. 

[jellobell]

I think you need to reevaluate how you look at what forced assault is. 

My post was with the assumption that the story was not, in fact, true. I don't think we can take the myths that Felassan told at face value. I do realize that a sexual assault does not involve the victim allowing themselves to be taken advantage of. However, I don't think that story means that Fen'harel was actually sexually assaulted by Andruil at some point in the past. It strikes me as a mythologized version of a love triangle, or Fen'harel simply not being interested in Andruil's advances. I don't think the elven gods actually went around attacking each other like that, especially if they started out as friends, which Solas and Cole's dialogue implies.

[Ajna]

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But you won't be bound to Solas because he just absorbed her power, you'll eventually be bound to Morrigan *cackles*

 

Oh yeah, morning!

[Brass_Buckles]

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But you won't be bound to Solas because he just absorbed her power, you'll eventually be bound to Morrigan *cackles*

 

Oh yeah, morning!

 

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Somehow I doubt Morrigan would be as nice about the not-ordering-you-to-do-stuff as, say, Flemeth or Solas.  Actually it could put you at odds with Solas, depending on what their individual goals might be.

[Sashimi_taco]

My post was with the assumption that the story was not, in fact, true. I don't think we can take the myths that Felassan told at face value. I do realize that a sexual assault does not involve the victim allowing themselves to be taken advantage of. However, I don't think that story means that Fen'harel was actually sexually assaulted by Andruil at some point in the past. It strikes me as a mythologized version of a love triangle, or Fen'harel simply not being interested in Andruil's advances. I don't think the elven gods actually went around attacking each other like that, especially if they started out as friends, which Solas and Cole's dialogue implies.

 

I get where you are coming from now. Sorry I misjudged you. 

[Eomie]

You're right. I think if it does come into play, he just makes the same promise is mythal to just leave you alone. 

 

 

I have my canon solas who is a good person. and my non canon solas. I forget everyone else is not knowing what i'm thinking. 

Mythal does not promise to leave you alone....she simply says there is nothing she needs from you at the moment......_{I think..}

[jellobell]

I get where you are coming from now. Sorry I misjudged you. 

No problem. And it does need to be said. I should have been more clear.

[Ajna]

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Somehow I doubt Morrigan would be as nice about the not-ordering-you-to-do-stuff as, say, Flemeth or Solas.  Actually it could put you at odds with Solas, depending on what their individual goals might be.

 

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Oh I don't know, being a mother has changed her, I think. Edit, but ofc if she's not a mother...ok what do we know about her character if there is no Kieran?

[Renmiri1]

soo anyone for more white sweater Solas ?

 

 

anyhow the mod for this is here

 

http://www.nexusmods...tion/mods/100/?

 

[SamanthaJ]

I don't even know why I feel the way I do. He's just a fictional character. People should be able to write want they want...

 

But I feel like the Solas fandom is being flooded by fanfiction featuring a dominant, rape-y Fen'Harel while sticking to the Dalish legends rather than using the new information and Solas's personality that is actually presented in game. I know we don't know everything about him, but we know enough to know that he is unlikely to enjoy a relationship where someone submits to him, and he is especially not going to use force. The way I've seen some people write him is just beyond wrong. Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places for fanfiction. I just want to read about Solas the man, not Fen'Harel the wolf. 

[HurricaneGinger]

 

When he was in uthenera (asleep) for thousands of years, he was exploring the fade. His body was living off the fade and he should have been able to see everything that was happening.

 

Why didn't he wake up? Was he not able to wake up?

 

Was he forced through watch these past thousands of years, the slow fall and pain of his people? If that is true, then maybe this was a living hell. 

 

 

I've thought about this, and I don't know why it only just now feels absolutely horrible.

 

I think Uthenera is a time-sensitive thing. 

 

This state did not necessarily equal death, as some would return after centuries of sleep and share the secrets of dreams with the People. Yet many would never wake up: their bodies would deteriorate and they would in fact die.

...

Some elves in uthenera were able to reach "perfection" and draw sustenance from the Fade rather than dying in their sleep. It is possible that some still live, and retain some amount of control over the world of dreams. Elves in uthenera were tended by servants to prevent discomfort from waking them, and who bathed them in scented oils to provide them the spark of wisdom on their journey. Sacred herbs were thrown onto a "eternal fire" in the sleeping chambers (also sometimes doubling as burial chambers) of the Dreamers to guide them to the Beyond.

An elf who had perfected themselves no longer required the potion of water, honey and herbs used to keep mages alive during uthenera (this was determined by brushing the potion on the lips at the full moon and determining at the new moon if it had been imbibed or not). Such elves were moved into beds of pure white, signifying their achievement. -DA Wiki

 

So, perhaps Solas is "perfected", but he was so weak upon locking the Creators away, he could not awaken his body easily.

[AryBoBary]

I don't even know why I feel the way I do. He's just a fictional character. People should be able to write want they want...

 

But I feel like the Solas fandom is being flooded by fanfiction featuring a dominant, rape-y Fen'Harel while sticking to the Dalish legends rather than using the new information and Solas's personality that is actually presented in game. I know we don't know everything about him, but we know enough to know that he is unlikely to enjoy a relationship where someone submits to him, and he is especially not going to use force. The way I've seen some people write him is just beyond wrong. Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places for fanfiction. I just want to read about Solas the man, not Fen'Harel the wolf. 

 

This has been posted before, but this fanfic is beautifully written, and keeps with Solas' stoic demeanor.  There is sexy-time, but it's done in such a beautiful way, that I think you would appreciate it.  Just, keep a cool cloth nearby so your cheeks don't burn off your face. 

 

https://www.fanficti...1/Crystal-White

[scintilla]

I don't even know why I feel the way I do. He's just a fictional character. People should be able to write want they want...

 

But I feel like the Solas fandom is being flooded by fanfiction featuring a dominant, rape-y Fen'Harel while sticking to the Dalish legends rather than using the new information and Solas's personality that is actually presented in game. I know we don't know everything about him, but we know enough to know that he is unlikely to enjoy a relationship where someone submits to him, and he is especially not going to use force. The way I've seen some people write him is just beyond wrong. Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places for fanfiction. I just want to read about Solas the man, not Fen'Harel the wolf. 

 

Welcome to fandom, where that one awful misinterpretation of your favorite character is the one that sticks and you end up hating everything. Good fic is always hard to find but a character like Solas is unfortunately going to attract a lot of people who aren't really interested in who the character is but what he is. The kinkmeme may not be the place to look though, stories there are often more about the kink than the characters, and a lot of fic now is coming from prompts there.

 

Maybe Solas thread needs to do writing prompts.

[Ajna]

I don't even know why I feel the way I do. He's just a fictional character. People should be able to write want they want...

 

But I feel like the Solas fandom is being flooded by fanfiction featuring a dominant, rape-y Fen'Harel while sticking to the Dalish legends rather than using the new information and Solas's personality that is actually presented in game. I know we don't know everything about him, but we know enough to know that he is unlikely to enjoy a relationship where someone submits to him, and he is especially not going to use force. The way I've seen some people write him is just beyond wrong. Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places for fanfiction. I just want to read about Solas the man, not Fen'Harel the wolf. 

 

I get you Sam, I'm avoiding fics because of it tbh, I don't tend to read smut anyway, I'm for fluff.  At the end of the day I'd be one of those that would be over the moon if I got just Solas back, and by that I mean, Solas without the god...

[RynJ]

I don't even know why I feel the way I do. He's just a fictional character. People should be able to write want they want...

 

But I feel like the Solas fandom is being flooded by fanfiction featuring a dominant, rape-y Fen'Harel while sticking to the Dalish legends rather than using the new information and Solas's personality that is actually presented in game. I know we don't know everything about him, but we know enough to know that he is unlikely to enjoy a relationship where someone submits to him, and he is especially not going to use force. The way I've seen some people write him is just beyond wrong. Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places for fanfiction. I just want to read about Solas the man, not Fen'Harel the wolf. 

 

I think a lot of fans that really enjoy that kind of stuff and enjoy the bad boy, trickster characters latched onto Solas after they found out who he was. That's why he has a crazy high percentage of fics so far with those elements in them when compared to the other characters. It almost seems like many like the version of Fen'Harel they've created in their heads and not the actual Solas. Or I've seen it treated like Fen'Harel and Solas are like two different people in one body and Fen'Harel "comes out" with his wolfish grins and dominance. This is especially strange, since it seems like that epilogue in the game wanted us to question how we thought about the Dread Wolf and what is or isn't true of what we know about him. 

 

So basically I think this happens for two reasons: there has always been and always will be a section of any fanbase that digs the more villainy, dangerous characters. The Loki-like fictional characters, if you will. They saw potential for that in Solas and latched onto it.

 

The second one: Solas as we know him does not seem like he's easy to write. At all. That's often a huge factor in realistic portrayals versus adjusting the character to suit your own needs. It's not easy writing genius characters in general but I can see why some would find it downright impossible to write anything from Solas' point of view, for example. There's too many unanswered questions for that.

[Kittn]

Off topic question for anyone who didn't roll a mage for their first Solasmance (purposely or not).

Did anyone else reroll their Lavellan after hearing Vivienne tell her that "mages need the company of other mages?" I originally created a rogue to be the typical Dalish archer, but for some reason that line really struck a chord me. I know she meant it as platonically as possible, but the idea of it affected me enough that I immediately went nopenopenope, and created a mage Lavellan instead.

I kept myself so spoiler-free about DAI that I knew literally nothing about the companions, the romances, or anything about the story. All I knew about Solas was what was introduced through his dialogue in Haven, but after hearing that line from Vivienne I couldn't get the idea that yes, Solas would be really cool to try and flirt with as a mage, but more importantly he might be willing to share more of his self than with a non-mage who can't explore the Fade as he does. The lonely apostate who could (potentially. no romance knowledge) take my Lavellan on Fade adventures they would remember? Too good of an idea to pass up.

I plan to try a mage Lavellan after my archer one. Oddly enough, I viewed Chesha, my 2h Warrior as my canon forever. Now Tiger Festival (lol) has endeared herself to me more. I like the unaccented voice much better and she feels more natural.

 

But in regards to the dynamic with Solas, I sort of prefer my Lavellan being mostly mundane. It allows her to be even more fascinated by him and what he can do, because she can't magic. Every spell he casts has the potential to amaze her. I also imagine it makes her dream-walking, that much more surprising to him. And in the end, when she finds out who he really is, not being a First will allow her to maintain her wide-eyed wonder instead of battling the duty taught preconceptions of a Keeper's First. Of course, she will share the same reservations as any downhome Dalish gal might once they discover they've been macking on the Dread Wolf, but she will not feel as if she had betrayed her purpose to her clan - something a First might.

 

Granted, that could add a whole different level, which I plan to headcanon for my magey Lavellan, but I like the Huntress idea better for the long run.

 

Also, being an archer instead of a warrior like Chesha was, she gets to fight at his side while her arrows shatter the opponents he has put on ice. She can also do backflips over his head while he's tossing out barriers and frozen pain, and still put herself between him and any hapless bad guy that gets too close. In my mind, the choreography between them is fantastic. Of course, in the actual game, half the time my backflip shot clips me off the side of a tree and rockets poor Tiger into orbit. But in my head? Fantastic!

[Yaslana]

My lovely Solassians ^^

 

I wanted to share this with you. It a version of Halleluja by the German band "Janus".

 

 

The lyrics are a little bit different but so fitting for our Solavellan.

 

I put an English translation under the spoiler for those who don't speak German. I hope I translated it okay :-/

Lyrics are hard to translate.

 

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Darling, I was here once

The room is still as empty

I lived here befor I knew you

Your flag in the wind, it is not enough

Love is no victory parade

She is just a weak halleluja

 

Halleluja, halleluja

Halleluja, halleluja

 

There was a time, when I knew

All the things about you

But you don't show me anything about it anymore

I remember, being inside you

Your hot breath was so near

And every of your sighs a halleluja

 

Halleluja, halleluja

Halleluja, halleluja

 

Maybe there is a god,

Maybe he lives in the same daily grind

And has long forgotten that we need him

He wont hear any complaint from me

I wont disturb you or him

This is just a quiet halleluja

 

Halleluja, halleluja

Halleluja, halleluja

 

I've done my best, it wasn't much

I know, this way we wont (archive the purpose/succeed)

But I am not here to trick you

Don't expect more of me

I'm standing in front of you again

With nothing more than a last halleluja

 

Halleluja, halleluja

Halleluja, halleluja

 

[_Lucinia]

As someone (and maybe one of the few) who didn't romance Solas as a mage (I romanced him as a rogue), I didn't feel the need to reroll my Lavellan. I like her as is already. I believe that Solas could equally share himself to a non-mage Lavellan like he does with a mage!Lavellan. And while I could see why people pair Solas with mage!Lavellan, I think his relationship with a rogue or warrior Lavellan works just as well.

 

Sorry, I just get a bit hurt when I see people say that mage!Lavellan is the best for Solas. Edited to add: It's like DA:O all over again when people said that F!Cousland is the best for Alistair just because she could marry him. 

If someone was looking for advice/opinions on what others thought was "best" Lavellan I would say mage, because for me personally I feel like it fits.  BUT I would never, ever tell anyone they were wrong for playing a rogue or warrior.  

I hear you on the DA:O though.  My canon Warden was always a mage. (I really resented needing to be Cousland if you wanted Alistair to be King and not leave you.  My first play through he wasn't hardened, was so upset when he dumped me.  I had to redo a bunch of stuff just to fix it, and stay together as wardens) I could never decide between Amell or Surana.  But with what happens in DAI, and the choice you have to make.... Cousland has to be my canon Warden, and I am not happy about that.

[javeart]

So, one thing I'm curious about: Am I the only one who ended up making canon exhiling the Wardens just because Solas says it's best?  I know it doesn't say much about me having my own opinions and such  but I can't help feeling that he has more information about everything and since his opinions and preferences 99% of the times match my own, I have kind of assumed that I should trust his advice even in this case, where I'd have done otherwise... Don't you think he knows something more than he says he does about all that? Ordo you think I'm going to regret in DA4 leaving my fascination with Solas blind me? 

[NeverlandHunter]

Hi internet friends! I just got caught up to the thread (not really, I cheated and skipped every other page) and would like to bring up the Cole, after Solas leaves, conversation again.
So I personally saw no reason to continue playing after I finished the main quest (after Solas left me :'c). For those who did continue, does anyone ever mention Solas again, other than Cole?
I was contemplating how Solas Jedi mind trick on Cole worked. Did it make Cole forget Solas completely? Or just his relationship with Solas? Obviously your Inquisitor and other companions will remember Solas and they may be hurt that he left so Cole would know who Solas was that way.
It could just be the bond that Solas makes Cole forget, or Cole's ability to connect with/find Solas. I remember a dialogue where Cole tells the Iron Bull about how his Tama is feeling and I.B. asked how he was able to do that when she was so far away and Cole said it was because they were connected. Which means anyone who formed a bond with Solas would have that connection, especially Lavellan. So with all this in mind Solas had to have messed with Cole's "all things are connected" ability, making it impossible for Cole to find and mind/feeling read Solas.
Okay those were all my ranty thoughts about that.
On a side note, as helpful as Cole is with easing people's passing and helping them overcome their guilt I just can't imagine him giving good post break up advice/guidance. Poor little guy just seems like he'd be out of his element there.

Double side note, I've been sick since last Saturday and this weekend has been especially bad with me sleeping most of it away, because of this I'm wide awake at 5:00 am and I'm very grateful for the Solas thread and it's different time zone posters.

[Yaslana]

So, one thing I'm curious about: Am I the only one who ended up making canon exhiling the Wardens just because Solas says it's best?  I know it doesn't say much about me having my own opinions and such  but I can't help feeling that he has more information about everything and since his opinions and preferences 99% of the times match my own, I have kind of assumed that I should trust his advice even in this case, where I'd have done otherwise... Don't you think he knows something more than he says he does about all that? Ordo you think I'm going to regret in DA4 leaving my fascination with Solas blind me? 

 

I think no matter what we do, we will regret it in DA4... Especially the "right" decisions... That's Bioware after all!

[TheComfyCat]

I dodged a bullet in Origins since I always romance Zevran.   I always marry Alistair off to Anora and recruit Loghain, so I don't think my canon playthrough is the way most people like to play it...

 

But I definitely agree with you all about Solas (and many characters in general) being terribly OOC in many fan fictions. That's why I generally don't read them (though I do read the stuff you guys write). The characterization I've seen in fan fiction reminds me of the typical heroes found in romance novels, particularly the urban fantasy romance ones with werewolves and such. Especially the shamelessly smutty novels, like Lora Leigh (omg now she writes some smuuuuutty smut!). So apparently lots of people like this "alpha male" thing, and it definitely works for some characters. But not Solas. Not even a little bit. I just don't see it at all.

[SamanthaJ]

So, one thing I'm curious about: Am I the only one who ended up making canon exhiling the Wardens just because Solas says it's best?  I know it doesn't say much about me having my own opinions and such  but I can't help feeling that he has more information about everything and since his opinions and preferences 99% of the times match my own, I have kind of assumed that I should trust his advice even in this case, where I'd have done otherwise... Don't you think he knows something more than he says he does about all that? Ordo you think I'm going to regret in DA4 leaving my fascination with Solas blind me? 

That was part of the reason why I chose to exile them. Solas seems to know more than he lets on. I almost wavered, though, because Clarel came to her senses. Then I found out the Wardens were there when the Divine died. Then they had to go. But that's not really their fault and they seemed eager to join the Inquisition...but the thing said they were still at risk of corruption and the pragmatic choice was to minimize the risk and send them away. Solas approved, Cassandra approved, and Cole approved. I forgot if Dorian approved or not, but that's three out of four characters whose approval I crave.

[jellobell]

So, perhaps Solas is "perfected", but he was so weak upon locking the Creators away, he could not awaken his body easily.

And this makes me think of As Long As You're Mine, one of my favourite songs for Solavellan. It's so perfect.

 

Every moment

As long as you're mine

I'll wake up my body

And make up for lost time

 

 

Full lyrics

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Kiss me too fiercely

Hold me too tight
I need help believing
You're with me tonight.
My wildest dreamings
Could not foresee
Lying beside you
With you wanting me
Just for this moment
As long as you're mine
I've lost all resistance
And crossed some borderline
And if it turns out
It's over too fast
I'll make every last moment last
As long as you're mine
Fiyero:
Maybe I'm brainless
Maybe I'm wise
But you've got me seeing
Through different eyes
Somehow I've fallen
Under your spell
And somehow I'm feeling
It's up that I fell
Both:
Every moment
As long as you're mine
I'll wake up my body
And make up for lost time
Fiyero:
Say there's no future
For us as a pair
Both:
And though I may know
I don't care
Just for this moment
As long as you're mine
Come be how you want to
And see how bright we shine
Borrow the moonlight
Until it is through
And know I'll be here
Holding you
As long as you're mine
Fiyero:
What is it?
Elphaba:
It's just...for the first time...
I feel...wicked.

 

So basically I think this happens for two reasons: there has always been and always will be a section of any fanbase that digs the more villainy, dangerous characters. The Loki-like fictional characters, if you will. They saw potential for that in Solas and latched onto it.

Exactly. There have been so many requests for a "villain romance" over the years. Solas isn't like that, but people seem to be trying to make him fit. Plus, Fen'harel the god has captured the Fandom's imagination ever since the first game. Now that you're actually able to romance him, it isn't surprising that they want him to be more like the mythologized version of himself that they've built headcanon around. The problem is...that's not him. All of the animalisitc growly werewolf-ish stuff that's in so many fics is so hilariously OOC. My friend who just finished the game (and who has no interest in romancing Solas but thought he was interesting) said that more than anything else Solas reminded him of one of those super-repressed British gentlemen from period dramas.

 

The second one: Solas as we know him does not seem like he's easy to write. At all. That's often a huge factor in realistic portrayals versus adjusting the character to suit your own needs. It's not easy writing genius characters in general but I can see why some would find it downright impossible to write anything from Solas' point of view, for example. There's too many unanswered questions for that.

Yeah, any writing from Solas's POV is gonna be guesswork at best until we know more about his motivations. I don't think it can't be done, but it has to be done very carefully. I dunno if I'd be comfortable enough to do it myself.

 

And I'm totally in favour of writing prompts in the Solas thread! I've got a bit of a plot bunny of my own, but I'd love some more ideas.