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[Rabbitonfire]

I'm beginning to think some of you guys are racist and think all male elves look alike.

[SamanthaJ]

It really is pretty common. Hooray for symbolism.

 

 

[Mims]

The pose is insanely common. If you gave an artist a design dock that said:

 

- elf

- religious pose

- holding X

 

There's a 90% chance it would end up looking like one of the above. Its just such an ingrained pose. For Solas, the pose suggests actual divinity. For Shartan, the key is representing freeing the slaves and his saint like qualities. [He is executed around the same time as Andraste, and seems to be here 'Peter' figure?] 

 

It is an interesting parallel though. 

[Shari'El]

It really is pretty common. Hooray for symbolism.

 

 

 

Mmmm.. Why do you think Shartan holds a key?

..

 

Is it... 

A...

Reference to...

 

THE ORB AND THE ANCHOR???

 

jkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjk

[Rabbitonfire]

This should be the Solas Thread Theme Song.  "Don't care what they say it hurts soooooo good.  I don't wanna stop.  I know I should."  Yeah that's us.

Ooh I listened to this song all the time! Though I prefer this faster remix of it.

[Wheels]

I'm wondering...

http://img2.wikia.no...raste_3_WoT.jpg

That one, right pic, Shartan holding a crown.

What does the crown stand for? The (non existing) elven homeland?

 

Also: Why would Solas go back to sleep after pulling a Shartan?

[Mims]

As far as what Solas is holding- in catholic art, the flame tends to represent the holy spirit. Which tends to impart knowledge. 

 

I imagine the fire in Solas's tarot represents both knowledge, and the anchor he once possessed. 

[SamanthaJ]

Page 1500 is almost 200 pages ago.

 

@Mims: In the Hermit tarot that is what the lantern represents, I think. The Seal of Solomon which symbolizes wisdom.

[Shari'El]

The pose is insanely common. If you gave an artist a design dock that said:

 

- elf

- religious pose

- holding X

 

There's a 90% chance it would end up looking like one of the above. Its just such an ingrained pose. For Solas, the pose suggests actual divinity. For Shartan, the key is representing freeing the slaves and his saint like qualities. [He is executed around the same time as Andraste, and seems to be here 'Peter' figure?] 

 

It is an interesting parallel though. 

 

That's why I may think they are referencing the mosaic with Solas' card, not to say he is Shartan but to draw parallels between their characters and perhaps goals.

But that's just speculation, could be purely accidental, which is still quite amusing.

[chibielf]

Going by the timeline posted earlier and the dev notes. Solas was asleep for 1000 years. Andrastate did her thing about 1000 years ago. The fall of Arlathan was about 2000 years ago. Which happened shortly after Fen'Harel sealed the gods. We can assume The Dread wolf could of been pretty old by that time as well.
So Solas is over prob around 2500 years old.
According to the dev notes he's only been sleeping for 1000. So whether he was Sharatan is up for debate. But I'd say its very likely he was around then. Already ancient at that point as well.
If he did know Andrastate, it would explain his eye rolls at the religion. The Chantry more than likely has her story just as wrong as the Dalish does the elven gods.

Just a summary of ideas and thoughts.

[Shari'El]

I'm wondering...

http://img2.wikia.no...raste_3_WoT.jpg

That one, right pic, Shartan holding a crown.

What does the crown stand for? The (non existing) elven homeland?

 

Also: Why would Solas go back to sleep after pulling a Shartan?

 

Isn't that crown is what Andraste wore on her head in the left drawing?

[vierrae]

By the way, am I the only one who sees Templar insignia in the bottom piece?

[Avejajed]

This thread is everything right now.

I love you guys so much.

[what-the-honk]

Lizardman for future companion and romance option?

 

It's a joke.

 

no its not and i am 100% on board for lizardman romance

[Roxy]

Holla, ladies. I just wanna share an entry in my 'activating all the Solas's elven artifact' journey. 

 

I accidentally soloed the level 21 Emprise du Lion Dragon today.

 

I was level 18 with the companions at level 17, was wondering around the area where the bridge was reconstructed when suddenly Solas went 'I sense an elven artifact nearby'. So I was like 'Yeah? Well buddy let's go get you your elven artifact fix now'. Then I climbed up this roundabout structure thinking the artifact must be somewhere up top. The moment I scaled the last step, there before my eyes, a great dragon butt with the red bar and level 21 on top of it. 

 

Before I could say 'Solas you dog! That's not an elven artifact!', the dragon turned around and got the party started. Within the first 2 minutes, my squad mates were wiped out and I was fending off a herd of dragon babies. It was a bitter, drawn out fight that lasted 30 minutes the end of which saw the entire plateau littered with dead dragon babies and one dead dragon mama. 

 

My sweet elf lady was a knight enchanter. Knight Enchanter is OP. 

 

The kicker though... I still couldn't find that elven artifact... even after the huge ass dragon boss fight and the dragon baby genocide. 

 

Solas... we need to talk about your direction giving skill. 

 

 

Yeah that happened to me as well a few weeks ago.I go up those stairs and what do I hear "ROAR" and see a cold breathing Dragon, haha I was like "Come here Solas so my Lavellan can kick you in the nuts!"  If she could 

 

*sigh*    

[RynJ]

The pose is insanely common. If you gave an artist a design dock that said:

 

- elf

- religious pose

- holding X

 

There's a 90% chance it would end up looking like one of the above. Its just such an ingrained pose. For Solas, the pose suggests actual divinity. For Shartan, the key is representing freeing the slaves and his saint like qualities. [He is executed around the same time as Andraste, and seems to be here 'Peter' figure?] 

 

It is an interesting parallel though. 

 

I'm sorry, but I can't ignore the similarities there. Everything from the pose to the hood to how Shartan looks. And knowing the story of Shartan and finding out Solas is Fen'Harel, who possibly was a god of rebellion, it makes sense. It's uncanny, really.

 

I know some of you don't like the idea but I don't think it should just be written off. If I've learned anything, it's that BioWare is super into connecting the different lore of all the races. Ancient elves and dwarves are hinted at being connected, elven pantheon and Andrastaism are also hinted at being connected. It's not a strange belief at all to think that certain important figures have a bunch of overlap that most aren't aware of also.

[scintilla]

As far as what Solas is holding- in catholic art, the flame tends to represent the holy spirit. Which tends to impart knowledge. 

 

I imagine the fire in Solas's tarot represents both knowledge, and the anchor he once possessed. 

 

The flame may just be the light that The Hermit carries. Solas's Hermit card is one of the ones that uses traditional elements.

 

Edit, top of page!:

 

 

Hello there, very serious Solas.

[Avejajed]

Also Bioware has totally gone against its own lore a bazillion times. Retcons everywhere. Man my human mage is going to be totally pissed off if Solas would sleep with freaking Andraste and not with her.

[Tielis]

I was taking pictures in the Temple of Mythal and that other Temple (forgot the name) earlier, some pretty creepy stuff among that...

Maybe someone with more lore knowledge can make some sense of it?

Spoiler

I would have said golden halla, but the horns don't match

And then there's this creepy thing Kind of hard to count, but it could be 8 patheons (without Fen'Harel?)

Same one in the other Temple

Maybe the red could be red lyrium, and their heads are empty because they hear the same song now? I'm bad at this stuff

Idkkk but creepy stuff

 

I think the first one is a golden halla, representing a "Golden Age" of elven culture.

 

The second and third look like elves riding into battle.

 

The fourth is definitely red lyrium sickness.

 

The fifth I believe represents the elves being taken over by the Imperium.

 

http://dragonage.wik...ellation:_Judex

 

Depicted as a downturned sword, the constellation Judex is oft-called "the Sword of Mercy" in common parlance - even though the sword image was assigned to these stars long before Andraste's time. "Judex" referred to the concept of justice in ancient Tevinter, and the downturned aspect of the sword indicated a guilty verdict - which, in those times, generally translated to execution.

 

Obviously, with its modern meaning and use as a symbol by the Templar Order, the old interpretation is frowned upon in scholarly circles.

 

--From A Study of Thedosian Astronomy by Sister Oran Petrarchius

[judasluca]

Well guys, I know we are pretty excited about our new topic but I just checked on Bioware Store today and they are about to RESTOCK the wolf T-shirt!!!!!! Prepare yourselves Girls!!! 

[Sashimi_taco]

Going by the timeline posted earlier and the dev notes. Solas was asleep for 1000 years. Andrastate did her thing about 1000 years ago. The fall of Arlathan was about 2000 years ago. Which happened shortly after Fen'Harel sealed the gods. We can assume The Dread wolf could of been pretty old by that time as well.
So Solas is over prob around 2500 years old.
According to the dev notes he's only been sleeping for 1000. So whether he was Sharatan is up for debate. But I'd say its very likely he was around then. Already ancient at that point as well.
If he did know Andrastate, it would explain his eye rolls at the religion. The Chantry more than likely has her story just as wrong as the Dalish does the elven gods.

Just a summary of ideas and thoughts.

 

 

I was starting to think I was wrong, but now i'm starting to think I'm right again. 

[Shari'El]

The flame may just be the light that The Hermit carries. Solas's Hermit card is one of the ones that uses traditional elements.

 

Agreed

 

 

The hermit has a hood, a cape, a cane and a lantern. The lantern is very important in terms of symbolism in this card, it's equivalent here is the fire.

 

Though it is a super religion pose, which doesn't have to do much with the hermit, but that's another issue.

[Tai]

Yeah that happened to me as well a few weeks ago.I go up those stairs and what do I hear "ROAR" and see a cold breathing Dragon, haha I was like "Come here Solas so my Lavellan can kick you in the nuts!"  If she could 

 

*sigh*    

 

That was very nearly me this weekend. I caught a glimpse of something large and growly and just dove over the edge of whatever I'd been standing on before it tagged me.

 

And some say Solas is not a trickster.

[RynJ]

Were Shartan and Andraste confirmed lovers? I thought that was just a rumor that was debated between some Andrastians.

 

I don't know, Solas and Mythal's interaction in the epilogue was intimate but not romantic intimate, to me? I don't think I'd call a former lover "old friend". Plus, those designer notes said Solas was Mythal's "oldest friend", not former flame. Them possibly being romantic together at some point doesn't bother me too much because whatever it was, it seems like it's way over and done with by the time he falls in love with Lavellan. And just because a character had a former lover doesn't mean their romance is all about comparing you to that other lover. I know that's a touchy subject because it's come up a lot for male LIs but stay positive!

 

Maybe Solas really was Shartan and Mythal Andraste and if you later asked Solas if they were together, he'd just start laughing about silly human rumors. 

[what-the-honk]

I was starting to think I was wrong, but now i'm starting to think I'm right again. 

 

dont lose hope im with u

 

(all speculation is good speculation in my book)