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Sashimi_taco

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By the way, does anyone have a good deconstruction of elven resource or should I make a pet project of ripping into it?

 

I don't want to waste my time if a good one exists already.  The wiki is a decent dictionary, but it lacks sentence construction and verb conjugation.  The only resource I have found has not been updated since 2012.

 

I'm not saying I would excel at this, but I know a few languages and I loooooooove me some puzzles.  Besides it would harken back to my old highschool days of teaching myself elvish ... oh dear god, did I just admit that.

 

Unfortunately there is not much sentence structure in the language at all. Or at least not an official one that has been released. Which is why translation is such guesswork. 

 

I usually look at it as how native hawaiian has to translate words it doesn't know. That is how I have to look at reading elvish. EX: No word for diamond, so you have to say shiny rock instead. And a lot of translations have to use context to make sense. 



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By the way, does anyone have a good deconstruction of elven resource or should I make a pet project of ripping into it?

 

I don't want to waste my time if a good one exists already.  The wiki is a decent dictionary, but it lacks sentence construction and verb conjugation.  The only resource I have found has not been updated since 2012.

 

I'm not saying I would excel at this, but I know a few languages and I loooooooove me some puzzles.  Besides it would harken back to my old highschool days of teaching myself elvish ... oh dear god, did I just admit that.

 

I've not seen any resources, but then again I haven't actively been looking so there may be one somewhere. The best I've seen is this here:

 

http://archiveofouro...g/works/2719730

 

If you do decide to make a resource, it may be helpful. 

 

Edit: There's also a Skyhold codex that has some translated Elven and talks about how it is a language of intents that you may find useful.

 

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Eh, I didn't like my lonely Inquisitor ending but that's probably all because of crushing disappointment.
I was like,
"Solas, where are you?"
"I'm waiting"
"I'll wait forever"
"Solaaaaaaas"
*epilogue rolls*
"I'll never love again"
*to the forums and away!!!*
Plus, doesn't your Inquisitor smile at the end? No Lavellan, you are crushed, body and soul, no smiling!

 

My Inquisitor wasn't smiling, she looked pissed. Like she was gonna hunt down Solas and murder him.

 

0:26 in the video

 


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BTW, I got this banter AFTER Solas dumped me :(

 

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Haha!

I knew I should not have trusted bald guys. 



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BTW, I got this banter AFTER Solas dumped me :(

 

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What a cruel joke.  Want me to set fire to those two? CUZ I WILL.  :devil:  ..... *cough*  :whistle:


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By the way, does anyone have a good deconstruction of elven resource or should I make a pet project of ripping into it?

 

I don't want to waste my time if a good one exists already.  The wiki is a decent dictionary, but it lacks sentence construction and verb conjugation.  The only resource I have found has not been updated since 2012.

 

I'm not saying I would excel at this, but I know a few languages and I loooooooove me some puzzles.  Besides it would harken back to my old highschool days of teaching myself elvish ... oh dear god, did I just admit that.

Is just a cypher: one word for another word, no grammar and very little in the sense of languages. I asked dedalvs the guy who does the game of Thrones languages and the Defiance alien languages and he told me

 

 

As far as I can tell from the wiki page, it’s basically an English cipher, with, perhaps, someone over there figuring out word types (e.g. noun vs. verb vs. adjective). Using restaurants as an analogy, it looks like the rough equivalent of, say, a guy selling burritos out of the back of his car, maybe? You may like them (depending on where you get them, homemade burritos can be excellent), but it wouldn’t be appropriate to compare it to the fare at a five star restaurant—or even a two star food truck.

For those who don’t create languages, I know it seems like it’s really difficult to create a language, but it’s actually very simple to create a bad one. If you decide that word order will decide which is the subject and which the object, you can create word forms for every single word in English, and, bam! New language. E.g.:
frondel = dog
zesten = cat
an = the
drok = chase
-ut = -ed
An frondel drokut an zesten.
"The dog chased the cat."
You can probably create a computer program to generate a thousand of these an hour. You can get slightly more complicated and make up kooky definitions for word forms, like zlefik, “the emotion one feels upon realizing that one wasn’t paying attention when a stranger entered the room and made their initial salutations to those in attendance”, but it doesn’t make the language more interesting. It’s still basically a coded form of English.
So, to answer the question, the language is not one like mine or that a conlanger would make, but given the type of creation it is, it can probably generate a large vocabulary rather quickly, and can be used for translation. It won’t be worthy of note, but if one likes it, then one can certainly enjoy using it.

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My Inquisitor wasn't smiling, she looked pissed. Like she was gonna hunt down Solas and murder him.

 

0:26 in the video

 

 

"****** i will find you." XD


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Unfortunately there is not much sentence structure in the language at all. Or at least not an official one that has been released. Which is why translation is such guesswork. 

 

I usually look at it as how native hawaiian has to translate words it doesn't know. That is how I have to look at reading elvish. EX: No word for diamond, so you have to say shiny rock instead. And a lot of translations have to use context to make sense. 

 

The nouns don't really bother me.  I mean you just kind of slap them together like German, but the verbs get me every single time.  Grr... surely we have enough snippets of elven to cobble together something ... right?  I don't know. 

 

I'm sick and I want a project.  And I'm whiny and my throat hurts.

 

Sorry I just lost my mind trying to piece together a sentence.  I'm okay.


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BTW, anyone got good fanmix about Solas? 



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Yay 1700 pages!
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Sorry I just lost my mind trying to piece together a sentence.  I'm okay.

 

That's why this group exists.  We understand, and enable such loss of one's mind.  


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BTW, I got this banter AFTER Solas dumped me :(

 

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I got the bartender comment about me bedding companions after Solas dumped me, and Sera and Viv still comment on your googly eyes/elven glory afterwards as well. Plus Cullen using that as an excuse not to shag you. 

 

So, basically the whole world still thinks Lavellan is Solas are banging. Tho other than Sera and Viv, I just headcannon that everyone's still spreading rumors about Lavellan and Dorian. It's a much happier thought.



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The nouns don't really bother me.  I mean you just kind of slap them together like German, but the verbs get me every single time.  Grr... surely we have enough snippets of elven to cobble together something ... right?  I don't know. 

 

I'm sick and I want a project.  And I'm whiny and my throat hurts.

 

Sorry I just lost my mind trying to piece together a sentence.  I'm okay.

 

What drives me nuts is how some words have multiple contradicting meanings. Ma can mean "you" or "me" and that kills me. 


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Yay 1700 pages!

 

Oh yea, hadn't even noticed. Hooray!



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It's weird that all the Solacmancers on reddit LOVE the "Solas was Shartan" idea. And everyone here hates it.

 

It's probably just too much awesome. Makes it less real?



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My Inquisitor wasn't smiling, she looked pissed. Like she was gonna hunt down Solas and murder him.

0:26 in the video

*shivers* maybe a bit of a creepy murder smile? No? Just me? Okay never mind.
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What drives me nuts is how some words have multiple contradicting meanings. Ma can mean "you" or "me" and that kills me. 

 

Yes!

 

Argh, sometimes I swear ... I just think they make up some of the definitions and go "eff it we'll just tell them the language changed."



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It's weird that all the Solacmancers on reddit LOVE the "Solas was Shartan" idea. And everyone here hates it.

 

It's probably just too much awesome. Makes it less real?

 

I don't hate it ... I was really upset that I missed that argument earlier when I was reading through the backlog.

 

The entire time I screaming "the stained glass window in Redcliffe!"

 

I was so happy someone posted it.

 

But then I like crazy theories.

 

Like I said before, "there is no plot, only Solas."


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Yay 1700 pages!

 

We should celebrate...  I know just the thing!

 

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I'm wondering if I should spoiler this for space sake... *contemplates while staring into dem eyes*


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I don't hate it ... I was really upset that I missed that argument earlier when I was reading through the backlog.

 

The entire time I screaming "the stained glass window in Redcliffe!"

 

I was so happy someone posted it.

 

But then I like crazy theories.

 

Like I said before, "there is no plot, only Solas."

 

 

Something something end of existence BUT SOLAS I MEAN HE WAS A PART OF THAT


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I've been on a Royksopp kick for months now.  I already linked one song earlier.  

Lyrics remind me of perhaps Solas' perspective.

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Sorry the only video I can find of the song is a live version, but it still sounds super close to the recording:


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Happy 1701 pages!

 

And I posted the latest installment of my fic.  It is very Scotch Bonnet Candy.

 

I still have no idea how that fic is going to end.  And it's kind of driving me up the wall that I don't, because I feel like I should.  It's like I'm driving a car and I meant to go one place but now there's been road work and I'm having to take a detour and I have no idea what part of town this is, so I'll just drive and hope I end up where I was heading anyway... and if not, well, maybe somewhere just as good?



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We should celebrate...  I know just the thing!
 
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I'm wondering if I should spoiler this for space sake... *contemplates while staring into dem eyes*

Out of likes :(
*Staring into dem eyes* Hmmm, yes... what are we doing?
I second that Solas is a desire demon! I think I already gave my soul to him too! Quick! Someone check! Am I possessed??

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Out of likes :(
*Staring into dem eyes* Hmmm, yes... what are we doing?
I second that Solas is a desire demon! I think I already gave my soul to him too! Quick! Someone check! Am I possessed??

 

Hmmm... I can't tell.

 

Would you like me to summon up a couple of strapping young templars for a second opinion?


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Me when I'm trying to figure out Fan Theories. 

 

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