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Oh that's perfect.  Hahaha!

 

edit:  Top of the page, have a Solas

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credit:  http://dragelove.tumblr.com/page/6

 

How can he be even sexier in black and white? Garaaarrgggghhhhhh!! Save me from this guy...


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#43252
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This is just...

 

 

adorable.


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Why do you like Solas? What about him? Why do you think he's better than the other options? Whats different about him?

 

I like him too. Just curious what other people think. :)

 

 

it would be easier to say what don't like about him, though I don't know what I'd say  :P I think it's a great character, everything about him it's great: personality, role, dialogues.  Also, I have a huge affinity with him when it comes to the choices we're offered.

Being more specific, I love that he's so smart, and wise, and experienced, and gentle, and calmed down and quite, and so passionate at the same time about his beliefs (when he confronts Vivienne or Iron Bull, for instance)

And as an LI, I find super attractive even his flaws, his arrogance, for instance or the fact that sometimes he seems kind of cold  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:

Also, the romance is beatiful, though I think it's almost better the part that is not specific of the romance: the fade date, the "world change" line, winning his respect, etc. 


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This is just...

 

 

adorable.

Agreed, it made me "d'aaaawwwwww"



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Wait, what? We get an interview, where Patrick Weekes talks about Solas? TODAY!? ohmygodohmygodicantwait 


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Why do you like Solas? What about him? Why do you think he's better than the other options? Whats different about him?

 

I like him too. Just curious what other people think. :)

 

 

To add to what javeart said, I like that he makes mistakes and admits to his mistakes. I like that he's open to learning (on most subjects). As far as the romance goes, it's both very gentle and very intense, it doesn't need a sex scene to be incredibly intimate, it's sad but the impression that Lavellan genuinely reached Solas, guarded as he tried to be, was very powerful.

 

Everything you said is what I think.

If the elves gain immortality, think of what will happen in Tevinter! It'll be madness..  It's the next gen of mage-templar conflict.

Plus, I also imagine that Quizzy will be used to achieve what Solas wants to achieve, because of the anchor. If Quizzy complies it will end peacefully, Quizzy lives, but will probably have to disappear, since people will hunt Quizzy down (a good excuse to make Quizzy disappear, better than the excuses given to HoF), on the other hand - if Quzzy refuses Solas kills Quizzy and uses the anchor.

We need a setting for the next game, having a new protagonist chasing Solas around without even knowing who Solas is in the first place (Solas won't be a known figure before he accomplishes his goal), kind of weird? I guess they can make up a entirely new story but it'll have to be at least as epic as dealing with the consequences of Solas' actions. I'm pretty sure that since people got a vague idea of what Solas wants to do they'll get annoyed if the next game will deal with anything that isn't as big (I know I will, I'd be like "that's all nice and dandy, but I want the world to flip already!").

 

-Waves team optimism flag yet again-

 

I'm not so sure BioWare's approach to pushing the Inquisitor to the side will be a choice between becoming a villain and death. The fan outrage would be impressive though. The writers would never want for tears again.  :lol:

 

I like the idea of Solas doing whatever he's gonna do in a DLC, the way Corypheus was released in one, but I think that may just be too big an event to make people pay extra for. They could pull an Inquisition and have the next/last/whatever-ith game open with Solas doing whatever it is. I'm kind of hoping they don't basically have him be Corypheus 2.0 that way though.

 

Maybe I'm wrong about the possibility of him being an antagonist. He does have some shady dialogue about cost of actions he finds necessary but maybe he's the answer to a problem not the problem itself.


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Wait, what? We get an interview, where Patrick Weekes talks about Solas? TODAY!? ohmygodohmygodicantwait 

 

Nerd Appropriate interviewed him, it's going up before the new year so..yeah today sometime.  I doubt it'll be all Solas, but I can hope...



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Doesn't the epilogue explicitly state that "new dangers await the Inquisition ahead" or something similar? Sounds very much like a Sequel Hook to me.
On the other hand, if they don't want to continue with this, they can just say that the Inquisition was disbanded as everyone has their own business to attend to after the finale. 

 

It did?

To be honest first time I've finished the game I was kind of distracted by the pain my chest that Solas left.

My 2nd PT is on hold, I'm doing everything possible in the game because Solas broke up with my Lavellan and I don't want to finish the game >_>



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Well...you might end up with an Inquisitor with the personality of Princess Unikitty:

 

Yeah this...

This is my Lavellan. Even after the break up... The only one who kicks Solas ass IS LAVELLAN.

If anyone tries to hurt him she goes all ELF HULK on them! GRAAAAARRRRR!



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It did?

To be honest first time I've finished the game I was kind of distracted by the pain my chest that Solas left.

My 2nd PT is on hold, I'm doing everything possible in the game because Solas broke up with my Lavellan and I don't want to finish the game >_>

 

From the ending slides:

 

"The Inquisitor is a symbol to many, a leader of the changing world order. To others, she has become a target. They linger in shadows, waiting for their day to come. When it does, the Inquisition will stand ready."


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Why do you like Solas? What about him? Why do you think he's better than the other options? Whats different about him?

 

I like him too. Just curious what other people think. :)

 

to me was physically not appealing. had a horse face, long face.. But an intellectual. So his attraction is mental. He's directly tied to the plot (before the big reveal) with the fade and history. Teaches you many things and when it's against his own opinions, he is negotiable and easiest to please. It felt like you were the one doing the leading. You always make the move first and he follows. After the reveal, I found the mystic and mystery interesting. Something about forbidden love makes me wanting to know more.

 

-My character was dalish who was content with being dalish and elfy so Sera not accepting who I am was no-no. You don't have to be elfy to make me adore you, but making me abandon my a part of my identity pissed me off. 

-Cullen is very sweet but I'd rather date my companions who i'm around all the time.

-Blackwall not my type, nor is iron bull. Too forward. 

-Cassandra is freaking cute. She's tough, understanding, and her embarrassing moments are great. 

 

-Regarding romances, nobody can beat the charm of Dorian. Freaking Dorian. Stupid, sexy teventer. 


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Wow it is so hard keeping up with this thread!  Couple of comments on what's been said while I was sleeping...

If the next game has events on the scale of the Breach? Then there's no excuse. The HoF is one person too far away to do anything. Hawke actually did show up to help. I know people really like the idea of Lavellan being a goddess but it isn't very likely.

 

He doesn't need to lose his power to disappear. He needs to disappear if he keeps his power. He can't be a permanent presence in the world if there are going to be more apocalyptic events because he's an easy fix for the problems.

 

Anders isn't a villain. If you ever consider him so, it's after he blows up the Chantry. Not during the entirety of the game wherein he's doing things that can be perceived as evil. Yes, once Anders lost story relevance, the player could choose his fate. Solas isn't going to do something world changing in DLC, that would be making people pay extra to see the whole story, which BioWare is accused of often enough when it isn't what they're doing. If anything DLC will set up for what he does in DA4.

 

Sandal's prophecy does say "he will rise" so that could mean ascend (although it could be... wake up).

I don't see why they wouldn't put it in a substantial DLC.  DAI was a massive game with tons of content,  it could hardly be a valid complaint that 'it should have been included in the main game' when we have so much already.  I think that to successfully demonstrate the size of the inquisition, the game had to be huge and I think that they likely intend to make story DLC for post game.

Bioware have had big events occur in DLC before (arrival in ME2).  The events happen regardless of whether the player played it or not.  I suspect that most fans would be happy to pay for a 'wolf hunt' DLC as it is so relevant to the world of Thedas and, unlike Morrigan and the OGB, it is important enough for any inquisitor to be interested in pursuing.  Also, any players who are not wanting to buy that would be able to record the choices they would like in the Keep.  We also don't know how this massive change will play out, it might be very obvious without being immediately catastrophic.

As I've said before, taking the inquisitor into DA4 has a ton of problems, not least the numerous romances.  I fear if that happened we would be in ME3 territory, with  a few of the LIs being absent aside from letters or to end like Jacob or Thane,  I am more confidant that Solas would get good treatment in that scenario though.

 

As much as I would love some Solas DLC...I really hope we get something like that mirror in the Black Emporium soon.  I'm so tired of playing a character for several hours and then starting over because her nose or lips bother me.

Oh yes please,  I've got a dual wield Lavellan seriously in need of a nip and tuck.



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From the ending slides:

 

"The Inquisitor is a symbol to many, a leader of the changing world order. To others, she has become a target. They linger in shadows, waiting for their day to come. When it does, the Inquisition will stand ready."

 

Ohhh, I also didn't see this through the tears...



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Why do you like Solas? What about him? Why do you think he's better than the other options? Whats different about him?

 

I like him too. Just curious what other people think. :)

 

 

I just thought he was cute when I first saw him. Reading a lot of other posts, apparently I was the only one...  :blink:

He's the only LI in the game I actually found physically attractive.

 

Once I met him ingame, there was obviously a lot of other things I liked about him too. I think he's sweet, and I like how flawed he is, whilst still being intelligent. I like the fact I can disagree with him, but gain approval by supporting my argument and convince him he's wrong on certain things. I like that he's a "good" person, but still willing to do bad things if the situation calls for it. I like that you get approval for supporting your own views, and lose it for relying on others to do that. And he has a great laugh!  :wub:


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Yeah, I'm way more stuck on the Inquisitor than I ever was on the Warden or Hawke, though I do love all three characters.  Part of it is that my Lavellan's story feels so unfinished; it might feel different with another quizzy.  My best friend is invested in Solas's story (partially because I won't shut up about it), but her quizzy doesn't particularly care what he's up to and is perfectly happy just riding off into the sunset with Cullen.

 

The other part of it is my Inquisitor's personality; she's not a badass in the traditional sense.  My Hawke and Warden were both Amell mages with very forceful personalities.  My Inquisitor is gentle, sweet, and forgiving--much more the Sansa than the Arya.  It's been a lot of fun to find strength in that character and watch her grow.  I feel like she still has so much more growing to do, even after DA:I.

 

I totally feel that, my Quizzy is very sweet, it even feels a bit out of place.

She makes difficult decisions that leave scars, but never alters her basic personality. I really wanted to see her grow more, that's why I have a bunch of headcanons of what she plans on doing after Cory's defeat, headcanons that have nothing to do with Solas.

Both my Quizzies are interesting in their own different ways. Lavelllan is my second PT character, my first PT is roleplaying someone with a personality like mine, second PT is about someone else. It was a bit like reading a book about a character, instead of being there myself, and a character I REALLY liked.

Something similar happened to me with DA2, first time round I was rogue Hawke with a snarky personality, second time - warrior Hawke, noble personality, second Hawke became my canon.

 

 

Agreeing with DAI's story feeling unfinished or just... kind of unimportant? After the stinger, Corypheus really doesn't seem like he was that big of a deal (also the weak boss fight). They did leave a lot of room for DLC though, so maybe we'll get something that's satisfactory out of that before we have to move on.

 

I think choosing the Divine is going to be an "illusion of choice" choice. It should be important but it only actually affects who may or may not have a cameo/mention in the next game. The same way choosing the king or queen of Fereldan doesn't really change anything.

 

 

Corypheus was underwhelming to say the least. I wasn't afraid of him since the moment he appeared, some part of me feels like it's because he is so unimportant that the ending was uber anti-climatic. I'm certain I wasn't the only person who was "that's.. it?" and then saw the stringer and screamed (and scared the cats).

 

While it's true it's a bit an "illusion of choice" it doesn't take from the fact that the Inquisition is a very powerful organization and can't just... Disappear.

I wrote it in another comment, what if there will be a choice in the DLC that will give an excuse for Quizzy disappearing? Quizzy either helping Solas, and then will be hunted down for it, or not helping Solas and dying in the process of him... doing whatever he tries to do.



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Bioware have had big events occur in DLC before (arrival in ME2).  The events happen regardless of whether the player played it or not.  I suspect that most fans would be happy to pay for a 'wolf hunt' DLC as it is so relevant to the world of Thedas and, unlike Morrigan and the OGB, it is important enough for any inquisitor to be interested in pursuing.  Also, any players who are not wanting to buy that would be able to record the choices they would like in the Keep.  We also don't know how this massive change will play out, it might be very obvious without being immediately catastrophic.

As I've said before, taking the inquisitor into DA4 has a ton of problems, not least the numerous romances.  I fear if that happened we would be in ME3 territory, with  a few of the LIs being absent aside from letters or to end like Jacob or Thane,  I am more confidant that Solas would get good treatment in that scenario though.

 

Arrival and Legacy don't really change the state of the world though. They're important for the story, sort of, I honestly don't remember if they explain Shepard's situation at the beginning of ME3 or if it's ever really relevant outside of the prologue, but they don't change things quite so dramatically as something like removing the Veil might. I don't know if that makes a difference but it does so much more than set up story.

 

I think BioWare really intends for a new protagonist each game. But there will be logistical issues either way. I wonder if they hate themselves for the whole choice thing yet?  :lol:



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Why do you like Solas? What about him? Why do you think he's better than the other options? Whats different about him?

 

I like him too. Just curious what other people think. :)

 

He's Mordin in a sexy, romanceable elf. What's not to like.   :D

 

By that I mean the nerdy, philosophical conversation is pure attraction to me. It doesn't hurt that he's got that dreamy, poetic tone of voice with just a bit of accent to make him interesting to listen to. His banters with Cole... I could listen to that all day. He's also got a charm that was surprising for me, at least. I like that he's introverted but confident at the same time- not awkward in a shy, tongue-tied way.

 

As far as the romance goes, its subtlety got me. In general the fact that these feel like more fully realized characters than DA2 and maybe even DAO- you can't buy their friendship with silly swag, and sometimes they're not into you that way.

 

As for the Inquisitor, I do think it's the best DA protagonist yet, but also for me the most limiting. Basically, Inquisitor= Lavellan. I can't like the other backgrounds or make them work in a heroic arc in this game.


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Erm I have to catch up (again. Stupid sleep) so I don't know if someone already mentioned it, sorry, but wanted to share this.

Regarding Soals= Shartan theory: someone a few pages back said that this man was Havard, carrying Andraste's ashes.

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But the codex says he was wounded when he tried to stop the soldiers from taking andraste, and he was too late to stop the execution: when he got there he only found her ashes.

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yet in the paintings we see him there, present during the execution:

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This of course could be nothing, but I found it interesting.

Now back to my new lovely Lavellan!

EDIT: omg english is hard


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to me was physically not appealing. had a horse face, long face.. But an intellectual. So his attraction is mental. 

I think that right there is the biggest reason why Solas has affected so many of us.  There's something to be said for relationships that are based on intellectual attraction instead of physical.

 

 I hate using real world comparisons, but I can't help it.  I've been with my fiance going on 6 years (we got engaged in June).  Our relationship is pretty deep.  Deep sounds so lame, but it's true.  It's a long distance relationship, so it comes with it's own hurdles.  To make up for not being able to be physically near each other every day, we communicate a lot.  Well we talk a lot.  We're amazed even going on 6 years later that it's never become old and tired.  We have never run out of anything to talk about.  We laugh a lot.  It's ridiculous.  In the beginning I was not attracted to him at all.  I thought he was a really nice guy, and he was cute.  But he just was not my type, not even a little bit.  The relationship started because of the connection we made intellectually.  To me when you see someone for who they are without physical attraction getting in the way, it can be a deeper thing.

 

Blah blah blah -- I didn't find Solas attractive either.  Cullen and Dorian?  Oh yes please.  Good gawd yes, those two are sexy.  I can't help but feel like Amy Pond when she talks about Rory and how she didn't find him attractive, but now he's the most beautiful man in the world.  That's my fiance, and that's Solas.  Bah that's enough personal crap!  Anyways, damn you Solas, you beautiful egg you.


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While I would rather continue to play as the Inquisitor to deal with Solas if that's what's happening next game (and I think it actually could be a possibility if that's how the story would make the most sense), I think they can easily switch things up without making Quizzy disappear or die. The Inquisition probably still has a lot to do in southern Thedas. It may not be feasible to travel to places like Tevinter (one of the likeliest next stops). Does the Inquisition even have a lot of power in northern Thedas? I just think it would be stupid to get rid of the Inquisition/Inquisitor with the way things ended, especially with the potentially easy "the Inquisition is busy in another part of the world, new protagonist, have fun dealing with **** here." This is all barring substantial DLC, though.



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It's probably meant to have her disciples all there mourning her, even if they weren't technically there. I said before that the tapestry/tiles are from World of Thedas and are in chronological order. The one with the guy in yellow carrying something is the final one, so I'm 99.9% certain that's meant to be Havard carrying her ashes out of Tevinter.


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Bioware have had big events occur in DLC before (arrival in ME2).  The events happen regardless of whether the player played it or not.  I suspect that most fans would be happy to pay for a 'wolf hunt' DLC as it is so relevant to the world of Thedas and, unlike Morrigan and the OGB, it is important enough for any inquisitor to be interested in pursuing.  Also, any players who are not wanting to buy that would be able to record the choices they would like in the Keep.  We also don't know how this massive change will play out, it might be very obvious without being immediately catastrophic.

As I've said before, taking the inquisitor into DA4 has a ton of problems, not least the numerous romances.  I fear if that happened we would be in ME3 territory, with  a few of the LIs being absent aside from letters or to end like Jacob or Thane,  I am more confidant that Solas would get good treatment in that scenario though.

Agreed.  I always figured Quizzie would not be the protag for DA4, and I haven't change my thoughts on that so far, but the more I think about it (and read about it) the more I think we get an arrival-like dlc where Quizzie is instrumental in helping/trying to stop Solas from tearing open the veil/doing whatever crazy thing he's going to do.  Either way, I figure Quizzie (and possibly Solas) will largely disappear after the DLC.  However, I really do think we're in some serious need of a good, lengthy story DLC to wrap up Quizzie's tale first.  As others have posted here, her story feels far less finished than either the Warden's or Hawke's.


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I'm not so sure BioWare's approach to pushing the Inquisitor to the side will be a choice between becoming a villain and death. The fan outrage would be impressive though. The writers would never want for tears again.  :lol:

 

I like the idea of Solas doing whatever he's gonna do in a DLC, the way Corypheus was released in one, but I think that may just be too big an event to make people pay extra for. They could pull an Inquisition and have the next/last/whatever-ith game open with Solas doing whatever it is. I'm kind of hoping they don't basically have him be Corypheus 2.0 that way though.

 

Maybe I'm wrong about the possibility of him being an antagonist. He does have some shady dialogue about cost of actions he finds necessary but maybe he's the answer to a problem not the problem itself.

 

 

-Shakes team optimism flag in a violent & desperate manner-

 

 

Nononononononononono

You are not taking my optimism from me!


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-Shakes team optimism flag in a violent & desperate manner-



Nononononononononono
You are not taking my optimism from me!

Hahaha seconded!

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-Shakes team optimism flag in a violent & desperate manner-

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Nononononononononono

You are not taking my optimism from me!

 

They could still deal with him in a DLC! There are some big story ones and the Dragon Age team didn't feel the need to baby people in regards to previous events in DAI.

 

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