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lol, I think the saying, "'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all." fits well here. 

 

edit: Also, HAPPY NEW YEARS Solas thread. With so many time zones, I'm being early. Have a great new year, may all your goals be succeeded! 


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Yeah, I do like the maps. But due to limited time and budget, if I had to pick, I would choose more Solas scenes and more core story missions and sacrifice maybe 2-3 of the maps.

 

I'm ready to sacrifice all of them. When I want to spend hours exploring I just play Skyrim till I get bored. I like DA for the story and the characters. I'm not happy with the direction DAI took in this regard. I enjoy the combat too (well, a little less now, I have to say), but "the cave" was enough for that...

 

I'm not sure they would get as much resources only to develope more the characters and the story, so maybe it's not a case between choosing one thing or the other, but if it was the case, I have no doubt


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So tempted to start Kickstarter to raise funds for Solas romance DLC. In case Bioware's budget needs more coin to justify doing one!
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So tempted to start Kickstarter to raise funds for Solas romance DLC.

I've been thinking about this, but decided it might be too complicated.  We'd have to figure out the IP rights, and get agreement from EA/Bioware et al.  Then Patrick Weekes would have to agree to write it.  But yeah, if all those obstacles were cleared, I'd be down.  



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Bah! I can't keep up. Will back track shortly, but felt the need to post.

First, thanks to all of those that posted the quotes/paraphrases of the interview. That is much appreciated by those of us that can't watch/listen at this time. :)

Next, my knee-jerk reaction is that I will once again be spoiling myself on everything related to him. In future DLC's, or whatnot. If sadness/death or some variation ends up being the only path, that will be my cue to move along. Ambiguous I can live with. Flat out DEPTHS OF DESPAIR I can not. :pinched: *heavy sigh*

I am admitting though, that this is my "knee-jerk" reaction (I do get those... :whistle: ). So we shall see.

Finally, the Mordin comparison. Honestly, I don't get why so many people don't see the one chance for him to live, as not having any redemptive qualities. I actually preferred what he says, how he involves himself with the current and immediate threat (to the WHOLE flippin' Universe), when you follow that path. Now, it does mean that in a play through such as that, that Eve is dead and Wreav is heading up the Krogans. So circumstances most definitely help to define what makes his "living path", rewarding. But he is very clear on his intent to return to the Genophage cure. And that he will not abandon it. Then he goes to work on the more eminent and severe task at hand: stopping the Reapers.

But the most important comparison for me (as I grasp futilely at the "optimism banner"), is the fact that there ARE choices with Mordin. A more classic death/redemption path, protagonist "is a douche-canoe" path, and the "live to fight another day" path. This is what I hope is considered, when fleshing out Solas' arc.

Fingers crossed. *shaky smile*
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Solas tries to do a lot of good, but he is also essentially selfish.  Although he has been analogized to Judas, I would argue that he might (if we're going to stay in the realm of Judeo-Christian myth) have more in common with Lucifer.  The best and brightest of all the angels, Lucifer is still deeply unhappy with the status quo, of being subjugated to the will of another.  "Non serviam," he says.  After his fall, he is not contrite, only more determined, despite an increasing pile of evidence that indicates that while his motivation might be moral, he's going about achieving his goals the wrong way.  As far as we know, no plucky heroines (no matter how callipygous) have managed to penetrate that unrelenting pride and bring the devil back to grace. ;)

Obviously, this metaphor extends only so far...Solas hasn't been twisted into something completely evil.  But I do think that in the 3rd scene, it shows him once again trying to exert his own will, instead of accepting what the world as it is has to offer.

 

Whoa...uh uh please don't compare Solas to Satan. Solas is not any where near as evil as the Devil.

 

Also I didn't say Solas was perfect he has his flaws but I think he deserves a happy ending. He tried to do good it just didn't end as well as he thought it would.



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I'm ready to sacrifice all of them. When I want to spend hours exploring I just play Skyrim till I get bored. I like DA for the story and the characters. I'm not happy with the direction DAI took in this regard. I enjoy the combat too (well, a little less now, I have to say), but "the cave" was enough for that...

 

I'm not sure they would get as much resources only to develope more the characters and the story, so maybe it's not a case between choosing one thing or the other, but if it was the case, I have no doubt

 

One thing that I don't really understand is their focus on MOOORREE maps. I mean, it's easy to add maps to DLC, but it's harder to modify the pre-ending core story missions with dlc. I would have personally gone with an unforgettable story and add more maps later so you get the best of both worlds.


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I've been thinking about this, but decided it might be too complicated. We'd have to figure out the IP rights behind it, and get agreement from EA/Bioware et al. Then Patrick Weekes would have to agree.


Yeah, that is indeed the problem. We can't really raise money for something EA & Co. might not agree to do. Bah.

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I have to say, that thinking about the "making it sadder" comment, I'm starting to be more worried about them planning to killing him or making him fail and end up miserable or something like that than for the happy ending for the romance itself, honestly.

 

So, right now, I'd settle for a happy ending for Solas. Maybe I could accept it even if he dies, but please, do not make him die miserable.  :(

 

As for the romance itself, however it ends, I have no regrets, I still thinks it very beatiful and it's worth the heartbreak


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Whoa...uh uh please don't compare Solas to Satan. Solas is not any where near as evil as the Devil.

 

Also I didn't say Solas was perfect he has his flaws but I think he deserves a happy ending. He tried to do good it just didn't end as well as he thought it would.

NB: "Obviously, this metaphor extends only so far...Solas hasn't been twisted into something completely evil."

Also, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. ;)


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NB: "Obviously, this metaphor extends only so far...Solas hasn't been twisted into something completely evil."

Also, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. ;)

 

LOL!

 

Uh you know Hell is an eternity of pain and sorrow...I don't think anybody would want to go there.  :P  



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Somehow I feel like this is relevant to Solas.

 

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Just listened to the Nerdist podcast...I almost cried when he was talking about the final Solas romance scene.

 

Damnit Solas, come back!!!



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I have to say, that thinking about the "making it sadder" comment, I'm starting to be more worried about them planning to killing him or making him fail and end up miserable or something like that than for the happy ending for the romance itself, honestly.

 

So, right now, I'd settle for a happy ending for Solas. Maybe I could accept it even if he dies, but please, do not make him die miserable.  :(

 

As for the romance itself, however it ends, I have no regrets, I still thinks it very beatiful and it's worth the heartbreak

 

Yeah, if it absolutely has to end badly for him at least let him find some peace or happiness before death/after things get messed up again. And his time with Lavellan doesn't count.  :angry: More happiness for the tragic elf!


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I have to say, that thinking about the "making it sadder" comment, I'm starting to be more worried about them planning to killing him or making him fail and end up miserable or something like that than for the happy ending for the romance itself, honestly.

 

So, right now, I'd settle for a happy ending for Solas. Maybe I could accept it even if he dies, but please, do not make him die miserable.  :(

 

As for the romance itself, however it ends, I have no regrets, I still thinks it very beatiful and it's worth the heartbreak

 

Well since it made him cry to write it I'd say the romance itself does in fact make it sadder..



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Just listened to the Nerdist podcast...I almost cried when he was talking about the final Solas romance scene.

 

Damnit Solas, come back!!!

I know, Weekes cried, Lavellan cried, the fans cried, Solas probably did too...everyone is sad now AND WHERE HAS IT GOTTEN US.  It's time to stop pretending that misery/suffering is elevating and bring on the happy ending we know we all deserve.  :P


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I know, Weekes cried, Lavellan cried, the fans cried, Solas probably did too...everyone is sad now AND WHERE HAS IT GOTTEN US.  It's time to stop pretending that misery/suffering is elevating and bring on the happy ending we know we all deserve.   :P

 

I agree.

 

I was worried about you for a moment there.  :P



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I know, Weekes cried, Lavellan cried, the fans cried, Solas probably did too...everyone is sad now AND WHERE HAS IT GOTTEN US.  It's time to stop pretending that misery/suffering is elevating and bring on the happy ending we know we all deserve.   :P

Exactly! There's only so much pain and despair people (well me, since I can't speak for everyone) can take before it just becomes not worth it, there has to be a payoff... more pain and despair will just ****** me off tbh and I feel it will likely ruin the pain and despair we already have, if that makes sense?

 

Edit: Top of page, Solas looking pleased with himself.

 

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Yeah, if it absolutely has to end badly for him at least let him find some peace or happiness before death/after things get messed up again. And his time with Lavellan doesn't count.  :angry: More happiness for the tragic elf!

 

At the very least, I hope that Lavellan has the opportunity to find out what he is, and still repeat her feelings for him. [Should she choose to.] I think it would be important for Solas to know that she didn't just love the lie. 


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I agree.

 

I was worried about you for a moment there.  :P

Ah, well, there is a difference btwn what I /want/ to happen and what I /predict/ will happen.  I am totally unashamed to admit that I want the sweetest, sappiest ending possible.  I want a picket fence and poetry readings by the fire for the rest of their lives and portraits of Solas holding babies(--doesn't matter what kind.  Elf babies, griffon babies, wolf babies...).  However, as Lavellan says (though she is hardly the first to have done so) , "We can't always get what we want, can we." 


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I'm also still optimistic! I never really imagined Patrick Weekes as an evil mastermind writing Solas but somehow I find it reassuring that he was just as heartbroken as we are, now it's time for a happier note in the Solas romance, right?  :P


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Exactly! There's only so much pain and despair people (well me, since I can't speak for everyone) can take before it just becomes not worth it, there has to be a payoff... more pain and despair will just ****** me off tbh and I feel it will likely ruin the pain and despair we already have, if that makes sense?

 

I'll be like Sera and go Pbhtttt cause I ran out of likes.  :lol:

 

Have a heart instead.  <3


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So where do you guys read/hear that Weekes cried?



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At the very least, I hope that Lavellan has the opportunity to find out what he is, and still repeat her feelings for him. [Should she choose to.] I think it would be important for Solas to know that she didn't just love the lie. 

 

Out of likes but agreed.

 

So where do you guys read/hear that Weekes cried?

 

A question asked at the end of the interview. The question is if he cried while writing Solas and the answer was yes, especially while writing the romance.



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So where do you guys read/hear that Weekes cried?

He admits as much in his interview w/ Nerd Appropriate.