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[Willow_Elessidil]

 

I definitely did not get that out of it. The romance arc helps add another layer to the character that romancing him helps you see and understand, but the rest? Not so much. His feelings were real. He wanted to be honest about it. But for reasons we - and Lavellan - couldn't know at that point in time, he had to pull away. And when you consider the truth, yeah, it's not something that one romance cut scene can adequately explore. It would have felt cheap for him to be all, "Yep, orb, Cory, Dread Wolf," and have you either gasp and chase him off or fall madly into his arms anyway. That would have been some weak writing and a very cruddy thing to do with Solas's character at that point, regardless of the stinger at the end.

 

And while Solas is flawed and makes bad decisions, just like the rest of us, we really don't know if he will be a villain when we see him next. He might end up like Hawke and oops another catastrophe, or he might be the direct result the world goes to **** (again?). Or he could be attempting to stop worse things from happening and that's why he had to leave to set things right. I'm not willing to find some manipulative ulterior motive to everything he was written to say and do. That weakens the character just as much, and Patrick Weekes has proven to be a far better writer than that.

 

Agree, I didn't take the podcast news as negative.  Nor do I think Solas is the villain he is made out to be.  No one who can love Lavellan like that can be infinite darkness.  

 

Heard this song on the radio today, realized its a very good Solas/Lavellan song. *starts crying*

 

"Miley Cyrus - Wrecking Ball" song

 

Solas, you wreck me. 

 

Sorry, don't hate me for saying this, but I cannot associate anything that comes out of Miley's mouth with Solas or Lavellan. D:

[Solassan]

Anyone else watch Once Upon a Time?

 

Mr. Gold and Belle, season finale. I really don't want that to be Solas and Lavellan.

 

Oh god why did you have to remind me about that? That utterly broke my heart when I first watched it

Solavellan cannot end up like that....

[Ajna]

*sigh*

 

Need to get out of this funk I'm in.

 

Here, have some Solas screenshots I took in the Hissing Wastes the other night. Hard to get screenshots (on console, for me) because any time I get close enough to swing my camera around, my companions start moving away. On that note, any way to get them to close that gap and "follow" you more closely? That would make group shots much easier.

 

Here's one:

 

 

And here's when I learned how to deactivate the HUD for better shots:

 

 

And here's my poor Mikayla. She only has a few more sidequests to wrap up before she gets to head off to the Temple of Mythal and then subsequently get her heart shattered.

 

 

Then don't do it DR, stay with me in fluffybunnyland aka pre Temple of Mythal, but this is your first time? In which case you must be strong

[BubbleDncr]

Agree, I didn't take the podcast news as negative.  Nor do I think Solas is the villain he is made out to be.  No one who can love Lavellan like that can be infinite darkness.  

 

 

Sorry, don't hate me for saying this, but I cannot associate anything that comes out of Miley's mouth with Solas or Lavellan. D:

 

I don't like her so much as I like the song. I kind of hate that she's the one singing it. That's why I posted the lyric version instead of her actual video...

[Bliss]

Anyone else watch Once Upon a Time?

 

Mr. Gold and Belle, season finale. I really don't want that to be Solas and Lavellan.

 

THIS! I dun want to play that....I will literally be in tears on my computer and not even you wonderful people would be able to console me (though I think we would all be in that boat).

[electricfish]

I think people forget that Corypheus has a bit appearance in the Legacy DLC, and we learn more about him/the age he lived in from the Abyss quest from all the codex entries.

We know he was a high priest of Dumat.

We know Dumat (and the other Old Gods) existed physically, and possibly people other than the priests saw them. There's a codex entry about the first blight where a person was faithful to Dumat and one day all the Old Gods stopped talking to the people. The last time he saw Dumat was when he was twisted, mottled and blighted.

 

Corypheus mentions that he tried to go into the Fade physically to serve the Old Gods in person. That makes me think that the Old Gods were using the dragon bodies as a ruse, or some kind of soul piece focus like Flemeth and her amulet. Totally capable of performing various functions outside of the Fade, but their goal was to eventually have Corypheus and Friends breach the Fade and do something while they were there. 

 

Assuming he actually made it and found only dead whispers, it could mean that he expected real gods to be there and not their remnants. Cue potential rampage, or lost focus and the spell holding them their went wrong, or he tried to open an Eluvian by force and corrupted himself + the other magisters.

He totally could have corrupted Dumat as the first Old God because he was the most powerful and maybe the spearhead for getting Cory into the Fade. The other Old Gods, seeing what a totally bad idea this was, sealed themselves into the earth until they were sure the proper kind of people could find them again.

 

The "song" they send out is their secret code for "come find me D:" that unfortunately has the ear of every darkspawn Corypheus and Friends accidentally created due to their innate physical corruption. While the original magisters don't hear The Call, the darkspawn probably do because they are tenuously tied to the Old Gods through leftover magic or ritual that lingers on these magisters.

 

And that's my crackpot theory of the day.

[Colonelkillabee]

He shows up at the end in a pair of flip/flops(even though it's winter), board shorts, a pack of natty light.

 

Solas: Anyone for a game of cornhole?

Lavellan: You are an abomination and must die.

 

That is the only scenario in which I would willingly kill him.

"I'm sorry, Lavellan... I've been asleep for so long, I... forgot how to express myself around one so astounding as you. Your eyes glitter like the spirits in the distance in my dreams. And like those eyes and your smiling face... I'm always chasing them."

 

*Instant forgiveness and squee from everyone here* You'd never kill Solas

[RynJ]

Oh my god have you all seen this? I don't know why this is so funny to me but I was in tears laughing!

 

 

From this ongoing and hilarious post: http://yukisamui.tum...orelikesoulless

[BoscoBread]

Oh man, finally got a chance to listen to the interview... and I love and appreciate team optimism- the world needs more believers in HEA!- but I gotta say, I took something completely different away from Mr Weekes' words about the romance.  The fact that Solas almost told Lavellan about the truth, and that she was almost enough to make him "give up his past" does not make me see hearts and rainbows in the future.  I mean, he loves her, really, really loves her, and he still couldn't step away from his goals?  If she couldn't change his mind then, I don't think anything will.

 

Ohhhhh the glorious sadness!  The tragedy of it all!  There must be something wrong with me- I'm addicted to the sorrow!

I don't know. She hasn't had a chance to confront him.  He may not have betrayed the elven people as people thought but he betrayed her. Betrayed the inquisition.  Usually when people are actually confronted with that, backed into a corner, things change.  He gave her no opportunity to consider anything.  He took the decision away from her which was incredibly unfair but it always removes the ability for her to convince him.  Which - with someone as smart as Solas - makes me think he considered that too.  He would likely have been too weak to say 'no' to her.  

[Blue Gloves]

Love isn't the end all and be all of everyone's existence.

 

Exactly my thought- but it leads me to a different conclusion.  My guess is that our darling, bald, wolfy apostate has pretty much decided to forgo companionship, since his goals, whatever they are, don't seem to be compatible with romance.  It also makes it all the more poignant a choice since on of his biggest fears is dying alone

[KyndredRaven]

Oh man, finally got a chance to listen to the interview... and I love and appreciate team optimism- the world needs more believers in HEA!- but I gotta say, I took something completely different away from Mr Weekes' words about the romance.  The fact that Solas almost told Lavellan about the truth, and that she was almost enough to make him "give up his past" does not make me see hearts and rainbows in the future.  I mean, he loves her, really, really loves her, and he still couldn't step away from his goals?  If she couldn't change his mind then, I don't think anything will.

 

Ohhhhh the glorious sadness!  The tragedy of it all!  There must be something worng with - I'm addicted to the sorrow!

 

Goals like his aren't easily stepped away from. He knows what he wants and he knows what he must do. Of course, people can be misguided. He leaves because he doesn't believe that Lavellan could follow where he needs to go or that he doesn't want her to be hurt following him. It wasn't that she was "almost" enough; it's just that he cares for her so deeply that he truly feels this is for the best. It's tragic and painful, but I think it really shows how deep his feelings run for her. 

 

For a relationship of this complexity to work, a lot of time might need to pass. The months that they had together were not enough time, and I truly believe that the way this ended was the only way it could have ended. They weren't ready for the next step, the full trust and acceptance of each other. We'll see what happens in the future, but I personally felt like the ending we saw did justice to the exceptional character that is Solas. 

 

If you think Blackwall's revelation was shocking and difficult to accept, then Solas's is multiple times worse, especially for a Dalish character. She has her own preconceptions of lore and legend, and although she does accept Solas and respects his views, the revelation might have shocked her too much. I don't see a strong person like the Inquisitor being blindly in love - so blind that she would just say "i don't care about any of that" and swoon into Solas's embrace. 

 

The truth is, they are both strong enough to weather this storm for now. It hurts and it's tragic, but I firmly believe in them. If their love survives this obstacle, they can find a solution. Though, it may take a lot of time like I mentioned before. It definitely isn't simple, but no true love ever is.

[Tai]

I had to dig up this post I read, jeez ages, ago.

*dies laughing. Again, as I am prone to doing while reading this thread* Thank you for digging that up. Wish I could like more than once.

[Ajna]

"I'm sorry, Lavellan... I've been asleep for so long, I... forgot how to express myself around one so astounding as you. Your eyes glitter like the spirits in the distance in my dreams. And like those eyes and your smiling face... I'm always chasing them."

 

*Instant forgiveness and squee from everyone here* You'd never kill Solas

 

That's totally different

[SamanthaJ]

Anyone else watch Once Upon a Time?

 

Mr. Gold and Belle, season finale. I really don't want that to be Solas and Lavellan.

If it's any consolation Solas is more moral and compassionate compared to Mr. Gold. While he is selfish he isn't selfish in the same way. He's at least working towards a cause.

[BubbleDncr]

THIS! I dun want to play that....I will literally be in tears on my computer and not even you wonderful people would be able to console me (though I think we would all be in that boat).

 

The only way I could see anything like that happening is if Solas actually does something villain-y when he comes back. Like kill some people. But if he came back and was like, "please use the anchor to help me bring down the veil," I'd be like, "Sure, let's cuddle after!"

[DragonRacer]

Then don't do it DR, stay with me in fluffybunnyland aka pre Temple of Mythal, but this is your first time? In which case you must be strong

 

This is my first time experiencing it in the flesh and not via thread spoilers and YouTubes, yes. So, it must be done.

[BubbleDncr]

If it's any consolation Solas is more moral and compassionate compared to Mr. Gold. While he is selfish he isn't selfish in the same way. He's at least working towards a cause.

 

Yea. Mr Gold is the villain you keep thinking could be a good guy, but never makes it there. 

 

Solas is the good guy you keep thinking could be the villain, and hope he never makes it there. 

[Tielis]

I wonder if it will be a lot like the genophage. One again, a character made a decision in the past based on events and circumstances that we as players have very limited knowledge of. The knee-jerk view is that those decisions are bad, because they would not be acceptable in the situation at hand, and because we're only privy to the resulting struggle. After listening to other accounts and amassing more evidence, the "bad" decision starts to seem less bad. Sure, one can still view the cost of the genophage as too high, and thus support Mordin 100% in curing it. You can adopt the approach that it was necessary, but with different circumstances it is no longer right to keep it in place. You can argue that the current circumstances mean it is still necessary, though it may not always be needed. Or you can believe that it is always necessary, and do everything in your power to stop Mordin from curing it. That's a pretty broad spectrum on how someone can feel and deal with the situation. I hope and pray we'll be able to act out a similar range of feelings in regards to Solas' actions.

 

Is it bad that I always sabotage the genophage cure?  Seriously, I do not want the universe to be overrun with krogan and I don't think they're smart enough to control themselves.

 

That having been said, yeah, I'd have no problem blowing up the world to be Solas' "Queen of Shadows" just to see it happen, but that wouldn't be my canon playthrough and I definitely would not enjoy it as much as I would having Lavellan find true happiness with another, even if "good" Lavellan has to kill Solas in the end.

 

It's about growing up.  Seriously.  I don't want my Lavellan to be stuck in tragic-emo-desperate first love forever.

[Addai]

Romance Solas. Heavy risk, but the thiiiiiiiighs.
 
He would have been such a great romance, but the liiiiiiiiiies.
 

 
Too much sadness in the air. Post happy headcanons about Solas or your Inquisitor and Solas!

LOL

Oh god, that Vega video. Shepard getting a gay subordinate drunk enough that she can crawl onto him and... Right, I didn't realize Shepard could be any creepier than she was in ME2 with Jacob, but that takes the priiiize.

Now I can't even play. I just passed that point in the game and every time I click on the Hierophant card or switch to Solas to activate a spell, I can't do anything but wibble.

[Sashimi_taco]

Hey anyone got those pictures of painting in the Temple of Mythal showing elves suffering from Red Lyrium Poisoning?

[Ajna]

This is my first time experiencing it in the flesh and not via thread spoilers and YouTubes, yes. So, it must be done.

 

That's what I was worried about. Well I'm here for you!  I'll have a blanket fort ready! And I'll find a lot of cute hug gifs.  It's such a shame because I love that mission so much, it's my favourite, but I don't want to do it again .

[Kulyok]

New Year here already, so Happy New Year, everyone! Fen'Harel enansal!

[electricfish]

LOL

Oh god, that Vega video. Shepard getting a gay subordinate drunk enough that she can crawl onto him and... Right, I didn't realize Shepard could be any creepier than she was in ME2 with Jacob, but that takes the priiiize.

Now I can't even play. I just passed that point in the game and every time I click on the Hierophant card or switch to Solas to activate a spell, I can't do anything but wibble.

 

 

You...can romance Vega? I was always under the impression that you can casually flirt, but he wasn't an actual romance option? I thought the only "active" ones for ME3 were Ashley/Kaidan, Liara, Garrus, with the "inactive" ones from ME2 if you went with Miranda, Jacob(lol) or Jack. <edit> forgot about Tali. But yeah.</edit>

[soragrey]

Exactly my thought- but it leads me to a different conclusion.  My guess is that our darling, bald, wolfy apostate has pretty much decided to forgo companionship, since his goals, whatever they are, don't seem to be compatible with romance.  It also makes it all the more poignant a choice since on of his biggest fears is dying alone

I think this, too. I think he will either turn into something horrible and we'll have to kill him, or he will sacrifice himself in some way to protect or help his people. I think he knows that, and thus does not want anyone else to hurt when his future is so certainly bleak.

 

 https://www.youtube....h?v=CWGQfKPRSE4

 

 

 https://www.youtube....h?v=rubPp42k6D0

[Bliss]

The only way I could see anything like that happening is if Solas actually does something villain-y when he comes back. Like kill some people. But if he came back and was like, "please use the anchor to help me bring down the veil," I'd be like, "Sure, let's cuddle after!"

 

Cuddle? Pfffffffffttttttt......cuddling may come later....but his wolfy rear is getting pounced on and ravaged. Once everything is out there is nothing holding anyone back....om nom nom nom nom....face noms.