Guess I'm finished with this piece at least for a while. I hate neck anatomy. Hate. It. Will redo it later...
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No more likes, but I like this, and I like you, and I like Solas, and I like this thread, and I like love. 
Guess I'm finished with this piece at least for a while. I hate neck anatomy. Hate. It. Will redo it later...
Happy New Year everyone! I love you all, guys, you're the best community!
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Oh my, no clothes?
BTW, I do like the colors and how it turned out...and no clothes for Solas is always a good thing.
Guess I'm finished with this piece at least for a while. I hate neck anatomy. Hate. It. Will redo it later...
Happy New Year everyone! I love you all, guys, you're the best community!
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HOLY **** UR REALLY FREAKING SKILLED!!! THIS IS AMAZING
It should be possible for me to play and get a story I'm reasonably happy with the first time. BW writers themselves have said that they don't want to write something where the player feels like they need to reload a save to have an outcome they're satisfied with. A lot of people have talked about having to spoil the game for themselves so they don't inadvertently pick the "tragic" romance, because they are so prevalent. I think that's a problem,
TBH I don't really see a way around this; it's an inherent catch-22 of romance content. BioWare has had romances that can end badly in most of their games. On one hand, you want there to be variety in the stories you tell, especially in something like romance where people have so many different tastes and the emotions cut so close to home. Happy romances, tragic ones, silly ones, sweet ones, etc. Treading too lightly around those emotions IMO neuters the whole point of writing a romance.
On the other hand, you don't want to set off really strong IRL fears and dislikes from the player, but there's no way to "warn" the player without spoiling the content, and different things upset different people. Books don't come with warnings about their endings, relationships, or twists; I know they're not interactive, but it doesn't prevent people from getting just as emotionally invested (see Harry Potter) and just as upset when things don't turn out the way they'd prefer. TBH I think they're doing their best, and Solas's story clearly isn't complete, so for all we know there could be a choice of how the story resolves.
Me tooooo!! I had a brilliant conversation with him about whether or not he's ginger when he has hair xD
I was JUST thinking about this after seeing pics of him w/ black dreads. I was like, I see why you think so, b/c the Dread Wolf has a black pelt...but look at his eyebrows. And the freckles. Methinks Solas is a ginger. Auburn, if you want to get fancy.
I was JUST thinking about this after seeing pics of him w/ black dreads. I was like, I see why you think so, b/c the Dread Wolf has a black pelt...but look at his eyebrows. And the freckles. Methinks Solas is a ginger. Or his hair is auburn, if you want to get fancy.
He and my Lavellan are going to have little ginger elf babies. Please, O Gods of BioWare, let it be so. Or if it be not so, give me a situation that I can easily headcanon to be so 
Otherwise, I would have no problem with dooming Thedas to be with Solas.
In your estimation, this would be considered a "happy" ending?
HOLY **** UR REALLY FREAKING SKILLED!!! THIS IS AMAZING
Oh my, no clothes?
BTW, I do like the colors and how it turned out...and no clothes for Solas is always a good thing.
No more likes, but I like this, and I like you, and I like Solas, and I like this thread, and I like love.
Gosh, you made me blush. I don't blush. Thankies!
My skills with clothes are even worse than with anatomy, so there and I like naked elves, oh yes
Yes, I've seen a few people post that they were giving up, even in this thread, if they didn't get their happy ending.
Again, I'm not that dramatic over it, but I do see that there's an overabundance of heartbreakers on the LIs-for-straight-female-characters side of things, and that imbalance isn't fair or right. And by heartbreakers, I mean "it ends badly without anything you do making any difference." I consider Blackwall one of those even if you can "end happily" with him, because leaving you alone naked in a barn post-sex and then learning later that he even lied about who he was... that's just not cool at all, and I don't know why the writers thought that it was a good idea to have him do that. It would have been better, and smarter, and way, way less skeevy, to hold off on the sex until after the reveal of his true identity, as part of his forgiveness arc.
Cut the man some slack, he thought he was going to die for his sins. As a man, I sure would want to be with the one I love one last time before I ended my life, if that's what I felt I had to do.
I was JUST thinking about this after seeing pics of him w/ black dreads. I was like, I see why you think so, b/c the Dread Wolf has a black pelt...but look at his eyebrows. And the freckles. Methinks Solas is a ginger. Auburn, if you want to get fancy.
I think he's got red hair. Probably not bright red, but a darker sort of auburn. The concept art was just development- fans have taken the art to represent him in the older days, because the designs were so unique that its unfortunate to loose them.
Could always be worth tweeting it to someone. I doubt the color of his hair is spoiler territory.
As someone who also has a red-headed Lavellan, our soulless ginger babies shall rule the earth.
ME franchise aside, there's still Anders and possibly Alistair which have people in a huff. The two female LI's from Origins can be deliberately killed or stabbed by the Warden, but show up and are made crucial characters in DAI. One of them can show up with your character's child. If Alistair shows up for an extended period of time, there's a 50% chance he dies. Then there's Alistair's romance in DAO, which made me so angry I thought about never playing the game again. Anders is...a whole different thing I don't really want to get into too much. I never romanced him because I didn't like his character in DA2, but a lot of people felt punished for keeping him alive in DAI because everyone seems to hate him. Not to say that the female LIs are perfect sunflowers - Merrill is a blood-mage and Isabela betrays you (usually temporarily) - but don't think it's fair to blame the grumblings about the male LIs only on the ME franchise.
I'm super-happy that straight human/elf women get so many options. I'm SUPER SUPER glad they added Solas (obviously) and Cullen. Especially Cullen, because otherwise we'd been left with borderline-ick/tragic Blackwall romance (and the Iron Bull - who is a lot of fun). I don't think it's unfair to ask that all romances have an option to end in a way that is not absolutely tragic. It's not like there's a big blinking sign when you start the romance with Solas that says "THIS ELF WILL BREAK YOUR HEART." Almost all of the LI's question the relationship, so it's not fair to say that's a warning sign. And you're locked into Solas' romance only after the worst part of it happens. By that time I was like 70 hours into the game, with one major mission left. I shouldn't have to start an entirely new play through to get a romance that won't be tragic (in the End, whenever that will be). It should be possible for me to play and get a story I'm reasonably happy with the first time. BW writers themselves have said that they don't want to write something where the player feels like they need to reload a save to have an outcome they're satisfied with. A lot of people have talked about having to spoil the game for themselves so they don't inadvertently pick the "tragic" romance, because they are so prevalent. I think that's a problem.
I dunno, I guess I get my kicks out of being involved in the romance that's most important to the plot. Which to me, has to always give it the possibility to be tragic. But I do think the important thing is that it involves player choice.
Alistair:
- don't want to get dumped? Either tell him to grow a pair, or don't make him king.
- want both of you to live? Have him impregnate a ****** with no idea what the consequences will be.
- don't want him to die in the fade? give up Hawke.
Morrigan:
- don't want her dump you? Impregnate her with potential demon spawn
- want to be with her forever? hop in the Eluvian
Anders:
- don't want to murder him? Become a pro-terrorism fugitive!
- don't want him to be left alone? sacrifice stroud! no one likes that guy anyways!
Isabella:
- don't want her to be imprisoned and re-educated by the Qunari? Duel the Arishok!
- don't want her to be left alone? sacrifice stroud! no one likes that guy anyways!
Cassandra:
- don't want her to become Divine? Don't ever listen to her advice!
We're just still waiting for that choice for Solas's romance.
Hey, y'all, I'm back and Happy New Year!
Hope I didn't worry anyone - that wasn't my intention. It's just...Solas' character hit me hard, and I had no idea why. I discussed it with my aunt who is so supportive in these matters, and we figured out why.
I don't know if any of you saw the Dragon Age Confession on tumblr with Solas + the emotional abuse...that was me. I can't tell you how hard it was to admit it, so now whenever I look at Solas I just want so badly for things to work out for him. Lavellan has become my hero.
I'm not going to quit BioWare games if something doesn't happen, but I do feel like tragedy happens too much in female romances. And, some tragedy is fine, I live for the hurt - but people are people. They have dark places inside them, and they don't need to be fixed, they just need to be touched and accepted. except for jacob because he never told us anything the jerkass
"You like people for their qualities, you love them for their defects." -Hellboy
So, I will continue with Team Optimism, and hope that we get the choice to stand by Solas' side.
In your estimation, this would be considered a "happy" ending?
Yes. Lavellan and Solas together is a happy ending.
ME franchise aside, there's still Anders and possibly Alistair which have people in a huff. The two female LI's from Origins can be deliberately killed or stabbed by the Warden, but show up and are made crucial characters in DAI. One of them can show up with your character's child. If Alistair shows up for an extended period of time, there's a 50% chance he dies. Then there's Alistair's romance in DAO, which made me so angry I thought about never playing the game again. Anders is...a whole different thing I don't really want to get into too much. I never romanced him because I didn't like his character in DA2, but a lot of people felt punished for keeping him alive in DAI because everyone seems to hate him. Not to say that the female LIs are perfect sunflowers - Merrill is a blood-mage and Isabela betrays you (usually temporarily) - but don't think it's fair to blame the grumblings about the male LIs only on the ME franchise.
Huh, well he did do a pretty unforgivable thing. Did people really romance such a polarizing character, spare him, and then choose to stay with him, because they cared so much what the world thought? I think that's missing the point of Anders' character. 
Even still, I thought they did a decent job in DAI if you made that choice. I liked what Hawke says about him, if you romanced Anders, about how he wasn't just a monster or a hero, maybe both. My Hawke told my Lavellan that when she asked...perhaps she will remember it when she finds out what Solas did. I thought that bit made good foreshadowing to be honest.
If anyone is bored and not easily offended, CAH is ready:
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Huh, well he did do a pretty unforgivable thing. Did people really romance such a polarizing character, spare him, and then choose to stay with him, because they cared so much what the world thought? I think that's missing the point of Anders' character.
Even still, I thought they did a decent job in DAI if you made that choice. I liked what Hawke says about him, if you romanced Anders, about how he wasn't just a monster or a hero, maybe both. My Hawke told my Lavellan that when she asked...perhaps she will remember it when she finds out what Solas did. I thought that bit made good foreshadowing to be honest.
My Hawke is an Andermancer, and I had no problem with how he was portrayed. I loved that conversation between Inquizzie and Hawke about him, too.
Guess I'm finished with this piece at least for a while. I hate neck anatomy. Hate. It. Will redo it later...
Happy New Year everyone! I love you all, guys, you're the best community!
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I'm out of likes. His face looks amazing in this pic.
Cut the man some slack, he thought he was going to die for his sins. As a man, I sure would want to be with the one I love one last time before I ended my life, if that's what I felt I had to do.
I wouldn't cut a real man slack if he did a woman that way, so no, I'm not cutting a fictional character slack either. He knew what he'd done, so he should have come clean up front at the beginning of the relationship. Barring that, he should have simply said no to sex. You know, men can say no, too; women are not the only ones who can give or deny consent. Leaving a woman naked and alone in a public place is wrong regardless of circumstances. To have also lied about his identity is completely unforgiveable. I am glad I didn't romance him. I had originally intended to try his romance at some point, but knowing what he does? No. No no no no no. No. And also? NO.
When I hear about how Solas' romance is a terrible burden for "straight" ladies, I feel the same way I do when I hear complaints about Alistair's romance. I have some non-straight male PCs that would've loved to take them off your hands. 
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That's why Sebastian was my favorite romance in DA2.
I'm out of likes. His face looks amazing in this pic.
I wouldn't cut a real man slack if he did a woman that way, so no, I'm not cutting a fictional character slack either. He knew what he'd done, so he should have come clean up front at the beginning of the relationship. Barring that, he should have simply said no to sex. You know, men can say no, too; women are not the only ones who can give or deny consent. Leaving a woman naked and alone in a public place is wrong regardless of circumstances. To have also lied about his identity is completely unforgiveable. I am glad I didn't romance him. I had originally intended to try his romance at some point, but knowing what he does? No. No no no no no. No. And also? NO.
Well I'd cut him slack. The lie was big, what he did was wrong, but first, it was in the barn that they were sleeping in together, so I'm not sure I'd consider it "public" exactly, but regardless, the man was about to let himself be executed to make up for a wrong he'd committed in the past. Guy was gonna die. I can't blame him for wanting to remember something good about his life before he ended it. It's not like he lied to get in your pants.
Yeah, nothing is confirmed yet. I think I've just been burnt by all my Dragon Age and Mass Effect games having sad endings, and all the other romances I've played having bad endings. I'm still going to keep hoping for a happy one, it just doesn't seem like the most likely option. Which will make it all the better if we actually do manage to get one!
Yeah, I always seem to go for the tragic romances. Siha and Vhenan are lonely... 
That's why Sebastian was my favorite romance in DA2.
I'm not that into chastity marriage 
And even with all this excessive angst, I still enjoy both Anders and Fenris
When I hear about how Solas' romance is a terrible burden for "straight" ladies, I feel the same way I do when I hear complaints about Alistair's romance. I have some non-straight male PCs that would've loved to take them off your hands.
Lol. Same here.
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