If you get over 90 approval or something from the Orlesian court, you get an option to reveal her plans in front of everyone and avoid fighting her. It's quite amusing, and reminded me a lot of when Vivienne tears that throwaway marquis a new one if you choose the "I don't care" option
Merril does in DA2. When you first bring her to Kirkwall she says something like "Elgar'nan. I didn't know elves lived like this"
Lol, well there you go. Awkward.... 
Merril does in DA2. When you first bring her to Kirkwall she says something like "Elgar'nan. I didn't know elves lived like this"
Am I the only one? Every time I see Merril dialogue I always hear it in her voice!
Same thing with Solas. Any time someone mentions "purpose" I hear it as Solas. 
I'm hoping the Solas romance is not simply given a cursory nod in any follow-up content. Solas' love for the Inquisitor, despite his assertions that it was a selfish mistake, should have consequences above and beyond that of having deep respect for a friend.
To Any and All Gods Who Would Hear Me
Whoever Solas truly is, wherever he came from, he has deceived us from the very start.
-Excerpt from correspondence between Inquisition Spymaster Leliana and Inquisitor Lavellan
Though I will it to steel, my rebellious heart will not obey
For it still loves a man whose name it never knew
And my traitorous body still craves his touch
That I fear I may go mad with longing and remembrance.
Teach it cunning, then,
To know all the secret ways that it might not be fooled again
Give me the heart of Fen'Harel
And I will serve you with all that is in my power to give.
Lol, well there you go. Awkward....
Especially since Merrill tended to use "By the Dread Wolf" as an exclamation of surprise...
Aw, I wish they'd kept that. A scene of Leliana and Josie storming into the quizzy's room to help (read: play dress up the inquisitor) her pick out a dress amuses me.
Then Vivienne walks in with an attendant and delivers a dress that unarguably perfect.
"This is tailored."
"Darling, I sized you up the moment we met."
Or worse Cassandra is in the room because she secretly wants in on all this but is hiding it by making comments about how the dresses will be debilitating in combat but only toward the dresses she doesn't like.
Lol, well there you go. Awkward....
It's gotta be awkward enough kissing someone who has your friend/enemy/rival's marks all over their face. Or maybe it makes him feel rebellious. Like "haha stealing Lavellan away from that loser June".
It's gotta be awkward enough kissing someone who has your friend/enemy/rival's marks all over their face. Or maybe it makes him feel rebellious. Like "haha stealing Lavellan away from that loser June".
Yeaaahh, I might have created a Lavellan specifically to use Andruil's slave markings Vallalsin. Even better, I made her an archery rogue. I know it's never addressed in game, but I giggled at how that might play out with Solas knowing who Andruil actually was like.
Anyone wish that instead of just letting Solas walk away after the battle, we could have sensed that something was up and talk to him more or hug him? I think when he was saying no matter what happens, I will always respect you, Lavellan should have known that he was about to say farewell. That's obviously a goodbye signal. I wish we could have ran up to him and just do something even if he fadesteps/teleports away in a puff of smoke.
Aaaaand this is why we have fanfic
(not caught up with lightning Solas Thread!)
About Solas dumping Lavellan
If you get over 90 approval or something from the Orlesian court, you get an option to reveal her plans in front of everyone and avoid fighting her. It's quite amusing, and reminded me a lot of when Vivienne tears that throwaway marquis a new one if you choose the "I don't care" option
I do love that option, you turn her from a sneering villain to a whimpering wreck in the span of a minute. Even better as the Inquisitor tears her entire world down in the most calmest, politest tone of voice you could possibly imagine.
I think the whole Cassandra calling the Inquisitor was meant to come of as more urgent, hence why she turned away. The cutscene didn't portray it well, in my opinion: they were almost crushed by debris and the Inquisitor doesn't even search for the other companions.
I think as well: Solas was FREAKED. His whole line "It was not supposed to happen this way" - the orb broken and his plans are coming apart at the seams(you'd think the guy would sense a pattern and just STOP TRYING TO HELP). I think he just well and truly panicked and fled because if he stayed a moment longer his grieving over the orb would have raised questions. If you don't romance him, the inquisitor will voice their concern that something more may be wrong. A poor besotted Lavellan just goes 'oh he didn't say goodbye'. It's like: Girl, get your head together. Something is up!
Then Vivienne walks in with an attendant and delivers a dress that inarguable perfect.
"This is tailored."
"Darling, I sized you up the moment we met."
Or worse Cassandra is in the room because she secretly wants in on all this but is hiding it by making comments about how the dresses will be debilitating in combat but only toward the dresses she doesn't like.
It's gotta be awkward enough kissing someone who has your friend/enemy/rival's marks all over their face. Or maybe it makes him feel rebellious. Like "haha stealing Lavellan away from that loser June".
"June still has followers?"
About Solas dumping Lavellan
Solas doesn’t believe he deserves to be happy. He believes he has to pay the price for his misdeeds and the only reason he doesn’t allow himsef to do the ultimate sacrifice is because “my people need me”So basically in his eyes he is living on borrowed time and the only reason he can justify himself being alive is to fix his misdeeds. He won’t do anything to make himself happy. And having happiness with Lavellan is a too cruel a reminder that he doesn’t deserve to be aliveWhat a gutless emo egg!
[Emotionally Defeated Noise]
Well, it definitely made me doubt his fashion sense. LOL. The worst part about his hat is how terrible the clipping is in the dance scene. It's so distracting how the little bangle on the front just goes through his nose.
The clipping was terrible, and then it gets worse if you decline his dance and he just throws his arm around Lavellan. That move also seemed out of character, so maybe the hat made him feel like a new man. Or maybe that's what all the ancient elves wore to their balls...?
It's gotta be awkward enough kissing someone who has your friend/enemy/rival's marks all over their face. Or maybe it makes him feel rebellious. Like "haha stealing Lavellan away from that loser June".
"June still has followers?"
"It's funny because they didn't even get the gender right, June was a woman! She had the most amazing pair of... tongs"
Really? I think it's great how bioware takes fan desires into account....and I agree with how they overuse tragedy sometimes, especially in the female romances, but on the other hand, I think that's going a bit far, and I seriously hope they don't cave into compromising their storytelling just because people are threatening to leave if it doesn't turn out the way they want. I mean it's one thing if you just plain don't enjoy the games, but I feel, there's a fine line between art and propaganda...and I feel always giving people what they want to see or telling fans what they want to hear is treading dangerously close to the later. So I respect when writers aren't afraid to push back on that attitude a little bit, even while being open and accommodating to what fans want to see.
I'm thinking you may be referring to me, if so let me clarify. Voicing and intention to not play the game is not a 'threat' to Bioware, I reeeeeaaaalllly love the game, but I am concerned that playing, and exposing myself to the angst is doing myself a bit of harm. Equally I think that if there is no conclusion, and no options for even a glimmer of hope in any of the endings, I would have to ask myself seriously if it might be better (for me) to kind of let Bioware go, not because they are not awesome, but because I personally can't cope with the angst, I'm not sure if I would ever be able to do that though... am an addict.
Yeah, if everything that fans claimed to be ruined actually was ruined, there'd be no game left
On happy endings and BioWare's female romances: So I'm probably opening a can of worms here, but y'all are nice people
And I don't think it's BioWare's fault if they write one really tragic LI, and then players choose to romance him out of a field of SIX potential LIs for Lavellan. No more than a brightly colored fruit is deliberately tempting you to eat it, in Solas's words
You're absolutely right about ME3, that is pretty much central to my current angst, rightly or wrongly, it is not actually possible for me to discount that experience when considering DAI.
If its not Bioware's 'fault' then whose is it? (I don't really think 'fault' is appropriate term in this context though) Going into the game blind, players are not to know that picking Solas as a LI would end the way it did. Sure, it is clear from the get go that there is going to be angst, but it would have been reasonable for a player to assume it would conclude with closure at the very least. I don't really think it would be fair to say 'tough, you picked the wrong guy' The choices are only relevant for multiple PTs as players pick the character that suits their PC, and that might only be one of them. As a player who always plays elven characters first when there's a choice, and who feels it is a central pillar of their characters to only romance elves, Solas was the only option... okay, there's Sera, but I do play straight characters also, and even if I didn't, she's so obnoxious I don't think I could put a PC through that.
I hear you
I picked DAI to cheer me up with some really sad RL **** (my son is very ill) and ... god damn it Bioware you did it to me again. hould have known better than to romance a mage.
Still on team optimism, if only because I want to believe Bioware would not do Anders, Thane and Solas all on a row to it's fans.. Could they ?
I'm so sorry to hear this, I hope that he will get well soon and send all my positive wishes to you both.
Other thoughts: Some have mentioned when talking about post game DLC that some may not have many companions left, but is it not the case that we potentially have Morrigan, Cullen and Leliana on standby? Is it possible to lose Cassandra any way aside from her becoming Divine? I Know Cullen is concerned about his ability but it would be pretty nice to have them all as companions in DLC.
I think as well: Solas was FREAKED. His whole line "It was not supposed to happen this way" - the orb broken and his plans are coming apart at the seams(you'd think the guy would sense a pattern and just STOP TRYING TO HELP). [...]
Solas is Harritt's vessel. He has bad luck. >>
Not for nothing, but I really wish that whenever I got lost in ancient elven ruins that Solas would give me a nudge in the right direction. 
The clipping was terrible, and then it gets worse if you decline his dance and he just throws his arm around Lavellan. That move also seemed out of character, so maybe the hat made him feel like a new man. Or maybe that's what all the ancient elves wore to their balls...?
To be fair, it's implied that he's quite drunk at the time.
I think as well: Solas was FREAKED. His whole line "It was not supposed to happen this way" - the orb broken and his plans are coming apart at the seams(you'd think the guy would sense a pattern and just STOP TRYING TO HELP). I think he just well and truly panicked and fled because if he stayed a moment longer his grieving over the orb would have raised questions. If you don't romance him, the inquisitor will voice their concern that something more may be wrong. A poor besotted Lavellan just goes 'oh he didn't say goodbye'. It's like: Girl, get your head together. Something is up!
You have to keep trying! Otherwise things will never get better!
Also, I think my Lavellan that romanced Solas was able to question that something more might be wrong... unless me yelling at him during the breakup scene effectively turned the romance off.
About Solas dumping Lavellan
Solas doesn’t believe he deserves to be happy. He believes he has to pay the price for his misdeeds and the only reason he doesn’t allow himsef to do the ultimate sacrifice is because “my people need me”So basically in his eyes he is living on borrowed time and the only reason he can justify himself being alive is to fix his misdeeds. He won’t do anything to make himself happy. And having happiness with Lavellan is a too cruel a reminder that he doesn’t deserve to be aliveWhat a gutless emo egg!
Ugh. More than anything I just want him to be happy. If we're not going to get a happy resolution to the romance, fine. But Solas should be happy. I can't remember if I made this comparison earlier or not, but here:
Mordin (ME3): Possibility that Mordin gives up his life for what he believes in. Not only does he have conviction, he's happy with his decision to cure the genophage. He's made his peace with the consequences (dying), even though he still has things that he would like to do. He doesn't have any doubts that what he's doing is absolutely the right course of action. He would cure the genophage whether it was necessary to fight the Reapers or not. If you let him die and cure the genophage, he comes off as a hero and his efforts help Shep. Mordin's death is a real redemption for his past actions: he caused the genophage and he dies to right that.
Anders (DA2): Possibility that Anders gives up his life for what he believes in. He has conviction, but he's not happy about his decision. All he can think about are the consequences, and how much he will be hated for what he does. There are things he would like to do, but believes they are unattainable in the world regardless of any efforts Anders makes to achieve them. Blowing up the Chantry is a last resort because he believes he has no other options, and he hates that. No one views his actions as a good thing, and if you kill him the response is basically "good riddance". Ander's death is vengeance: he doesn't cause the situation in Kirkwall, but he is punished for the (admittedly ridiculous) actions he takes to correct it.
The Mordin arc was great, the Anders one not so much (IMO). I'd be happy if Solas' takes a route similar to the former, and very unhappy if we get Anders 2.0. I just want Solas to feel like he deserves to be happy, because he does.
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