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[Renmiri1]

How can you be opposite factions?  Do you just fight each other constantly?

 

I'm an Orc, a proud Orc..

He switched sides when we broke up for 6 months, then when we got back together he had a nice guild and so did I

 

I eventually dragged  him back to horde but we have toons on both factions Is funny because he is so rebellious and I'm the law and order type but he is ally and I'm the horde rebel

[Ajna]

I wanted to romance Cullen at first, then Solas happened and now I cannot bring myself to romance anyone else. I was thinking about replaying some other game while waiting for the resolution, but... nope. I keep being dragged back into DAI because I MUST know how it'll end and I cannot concentrate on other games XD

 

I'm suffering this problem too, I spent a day in WoW over christmas dinging level 100 and I've not been back since.  Part of me wants to play other things but the part that is so hopelessly attached to DA won't let me, it's all Solas' fault, completely.

 

I've tried catching up with TV Shows online, nahp...can't even do that.  My mind is so unsettled it's not even funny..

[Renmiri1]

I'm suffering this problem too, I spent a day in WoW over christmas dinging level 100 and I've not been back since.  Part of me wants to play other things but the part that is so hopelessly attached to DA won't let me, it's all Solas' fault, completely.

 

I've tried catching up with TV Shows online, nahp...can't even do that.  My mind is so unsettled it's not even funny..

OMG I'm still at 90

 

Servers were lagging so much I said "f   it" and went to play DA2 in anticipation for DAI

[Ajna]

He switched sides when we broke up for 6 months, then when we got back together he had a nice guild and so did I

 

I eventually dragged  him back to horde but we have toons on both factions Is funny because he is so rebellious and I'm the law and order type but he is ally and I'm the horde rebel

 

Horde for life!  Luckily my ex was Horde, well obviously, since that's where we met, typical healer (me) main tank (him) thing happened.  I was a belf Paladin back then, my character tends to change with expansions...

 

And although he's my ex, doesn't mean they always have issues, and we do still get on. A couple of friends of mine, guildmates, met in game, different countries, they got married last year.  I like to think I helped play fairy godmother a bit with that one...it seems I gave good advice.  So there, if you needed inspiration and a happy story, there's one .

 

Sorry for going OT...Solassolassolas.

[Ajna]

OMG I'm still at 90

 

Servers were lagging so much I said "f   it" and went to play DA2 in anticipation for DAI

 

Well I played a lot while waiting for DA:I after Draenor released, but by the time DA:I dropped I'd only made it to 99, so I decided since I was on over christmas I may as well finish it off...

 

Servers are much better now.

 

Still...my gaming is broken.

[Hattress]

Eh! Just did some random chat with others in a discussion group when I mentioned how I felt obsessed with a game character. And one who probably assumed me as a naive immature child just came up with stuff like "oh It's simply because you want a perfect boyfriend that's what games do, Mary Sue and things like that."

 

First I wanted to argue Solas and other BW characters are not like that...instead I just quit that group...

Sigh...think those people would never understand

[kalasaurus]

http://mappeli.devia...iniel-500587354

 

http://yukisamui.dev...ading-503858885

 

http://ruxandralache...Solas-497934971

 

http://slugette.devi...ellan-504235952

[_Lucinia]

 

 

 

http://slugette.devi...ellan-504235952

Oooooh I like this one.  She has red hair almost as long as mine.  No I'm not pretending that's me in the picture.  Shhhh stop looking at me like that!

[Ajna]

I love that Solas is so popular, we get all this gorgeous fanart...

 

I like the top one, she looks very much like my KE...

[kalasaurus]

I love that Solas is so popular, we get all this gorgeous fanart...

 

I like the top one, she looks very much like my KE...

Me too, I have a lot of fun browsing deviantart for Solas and Cullen fanart.  There's so many talented fans out there- it's quite amazing.

[Vhenan In Fen'Harel]

http://mappeli.devia...iniel-500587354

 

http://yukisamui.dev...ading-503858885

 

http://ruxandralache...Solas-497934971

 

http://slugette.devi...ellan-504235952

The lighting in this is so incredible. I also love the others lol 

[Yaslana]

Hey guys, I still haven't chaught up with the tread.

 

But there is something I wanted to share. (Don't know if anyone already talked about it)

I need to get it out of my head.

 

Spoiler because tl;dr

 

But maybe the Queen of Theories wants to give me her opinion.

 

/snip

 

All Hail to the Queen of Theories

 

 

Spoiler

 

Yesterday there was this discussion about Cory being blue in DA2 and now red.

 

Okay I found this in the wikia in the Codex about Lyrium:

 

Mages have additionally been known to suffer physical mutation: The magister lords of the Tevinter Imperium were widely reputed to have been so affected by their years of lyrium use that they could not be recognized by their own kin, nor even as creatures that had once been human.

 

So I would assume, the way Coryshite looks is actually how he looked while being the High Priest of Dumat. This didn't come from the taint. This is just the side effect of addiction to DAs crystal meth - Lyrium.

 

It is said he got the taint when he entered the black/golden city. This way he could communicate through the taint with the Wardens.

 

But maybe its different.

Cory is a dreamer, like the other magisters who invaded the golden/black city I believe.

Maybe he didn't communicate through the blight directly at first.

Maybe being blighted (as the Wardens are blighted) makes you more open to the fade and dreams, and since it also makes you paranoid, etc. its easy for a dreamer to influence you.

 

This is what the wiki says about people with the taint:

 

 Those who come in contact with darkspawn blood or their taint often become diseased themselves, becoming ghouls. Once the taint progresses enough, the darkspawn recognize them as their own kind and ghouls can sense darkspawn. Such people show signs of insanity and schizophrenia and usually work for the darkspawn in order to craft their weapons and armor,

 

Since the Old Gods only become tainted after the Darkspawn finds them (or so they say) - why would they have the ability to influence them if they are not tainted yet.

The taint kills high though processes, makes you insane. The taint connects the darkspawn in form of a hive mind (with stronger, smarter darkspawn becoming Alphas/Omegas) And it allows a powerful dreamer/god/being to take control of them, or at least influence them.

 

I believe: The lyrium mutations in Corys body got infected AFTER the fight with Hawke.

 

Maybe (oh god I'm starting to hate this word) he started using red lyrium deliberately since it seems he have/give more power. In DA2 he could only influence the Wardens who are near to him. Not those far away. Red lyrium gave him the power to influence all of south Theads Wardens.

 

This leads me to the thought, that Solas gave his foci to an ancient tevinter magister who did NOT have the taint yet.

 

He was just looking monsterous from years of lyrium usage. He needed someone powerful.

Any Cory was a Dreamer and powerful mage. Cory being untainted... Besides him being a human there is nothing speaking against seeking help from him.

And Cory seems to be charming in his own creepy way. Many of his followers choose to follow him. 

 

----------------------------

 

This leads to the next question: The first Blight.

We know it needs broodmothers to make darkspawn.

So the Chantry says: "Tevinter magisters go to the golden city, taint it with their sin, are cast down and start the first blight."

But all the darkspawn from the first blight had to come from somewhere.

The darkspawn needed to taint women and turn them into broodmothers. Then the broodmothers needed to pop out new darkspawn. This takes time

 

In 800 TE (-395 Ancient) the magisters invaded the city. In 800 TE, the same year, the first Blight started and ended in 992 TE. That's 192 years.

 

Masses of Darkspawn just appeared and attacked everything.

 

I found this in the wiki:

 

The Andrastian Chantry teaches that the magisters were trying to usurp the Maker's throne and were cast out of the Golden City for their sinful pride. In their depravity they sought the Old Gods, and, finding Dumat slumbering deep within the earth, began the Blight. However, if the Chantry's history and Orzammar's Memories are both true, then Tevinter mages would have entered the Fade, been cursed, fled, found Dumat, raised an army, and then overrun the western thaigs all in one year. It seems more likely that the magisters had already been seeking Dumat for some time. A few Grey Warden scholars believe they may have even found him by that time, and that it was he who helped them to reach the Golden City. Different groups of mages may have been pursuing different agendas that were later fused.^[7]

 

So I believe that the Darkspawn was already breeding underground for quiet some time.

 

And what did Coryshite for 204 years until he was imprisoned? He was imprisoned in -191 Ancient. 12 years after Dumat was killed. When he wakes up he seems to remember nothing of this 204 years.

 

And only after the Third Blight (3:10 - 3:25 Towers - I want to remind that Flemeth was born in 3:00 Towers) did the Chantry start the story "Magisters invaded the golden City and started the Blights.

 

After the Third Blight, the Andrastian Chantry promoted the story that a group of magisters managed to physically enter the Fade and the Golden City of the Maker.^[4] According to that story, this act corrupted the city and led to the creation of the first darkspawn.

 

In Towers the Tevinter Chantry also split up with the the Orlesian Chantry.

 

Badbad Tevinter Magisters you caused all this is a very convenient story for the Orlais Chantry.

 

---

 

Also! The meaning of Fen'Harel changed in Towers.

 

The Dalish use "harellan" to mean "traitor to one's kin," but the word does not appear in any elven text before the Towers Age. The ancient root-word is related to "harillen," or opposition, and "hellathen," or noble struggle. The Dalish call Fen'Harel a god of deception, but I posit a far more accurate translation would be "god of rebellion."

 

 

Again its the Tower age. In which Flemeth was born. 

---------------

 

 

I have no idea what I want to say with that... I confused myself. But all this is so... To perfect with to many things that don't fit?

 

Maybe everything was not like the stories tell? Arrrghhh stupid obsession.

 

 

Edit: Another stupid idea!

 

Spoiler

 

Why Flemeth? Why in Tower?

 

There are always women who are betrayed. Why did Mythal go to Flemeth?

 

Maybe something did happen in Tower we don't know of yet.

 

Something that made the Mythal spirit realize that she had to do something. Now. Or at least as in, "I have to start now because this takes time and sooner or later time runs out for me to do it."

 

 

 

[jawsisinmywc]

So I am doing an Assquisitor run right now and I feel just horrible. BUT, it is really fun to hear Solas insult you. Also, I feel like you get to see yet another side of Solas. His contra to your statements is really great and you see how intelligent he is.

I do start to cower in front of my monitor though when he starts screaming at. I will have to follow up this playthrough with yet another Lavellan.

[mythlover20]

How can you even do an Assquisitor pt? I'm terrified that pissing Solas off now is going to have dire consequences in the DLC or future games.

Edit: Evil typos are evil.

Modifié par mythlover20, 02 janvier 2015 - 12:11 .

[Addai]

So I am doing an Assquisitor run right now and I feel just horrible. BUT, it is really fun to hear Solas insult you. Also, I feel like you get to see yet another side of Solas. His contra to your statements is really great and you see how intelligent he is.

I do start to cower in front of my monitor though when he starts screaming at. I will have to follow up this playthrough with yet another Lavellan.

Can you take screenshots or vids?

[Vhenan In Fen'Harel]

Hey guys, I still haven't chaught up with the tread.

 

But there is something I wanted to share. (Don't know if anyone already talked about it)

I need to get it out of my head.

 

Spoiler because tl;dr

 

But maybe the Queen of Theories wants to give me her opinion.

 

 

 

Spoiler

 

Yesterday there was this discussion about Cory being blue in DA2 and now red.

 

Okay I found this in the wikia in the Codex about Lyrium:

 

Mages have additionally been known to suffer physical mutation: The magister lords of the Tevinter Imperium were widely reputed to have been so affected by their years of lyrium use that they could not be recognized by their own kin, nor even as creatures that had once been human.

 

So I would assume, the way Coryshite looks is actually how he looked while being the High Priest of Dumat. This didn't come from the taint. This is just the side effect of addiction to DAs crystal meth - Lyrium.

 

It is said he got the taint when he entered the black/golden city. This way he could communicate through the taint with the Wardens.

 

But maybe its different.

Cory is a dreamer, like the other magisters who invaded the golden/black city I believe.

Maybe he didn't communicate through the blight directly at first.

Maybe being blighted (as the Wardens are blighted) makes you more open to the fade and dreams, and since it also makes you paranoid, etc. its easy for a dreamer to influence you.

 

This is what the wiki says about people with the taint:

 

 Those who come in contact with darkspawn blood or their taint often become diseased themselves, becoming ghouls. Once the taint progresses enough, the darkspawn recognize them as their own kind and ghouls can sense darkspawn. Such people show signs of insanity and schizophrenia and usually work for the darkspawn in order to craft their weapons and armor,

 

Since the Old Gods only become tainted after the Darkspawn finds them (or so they say) - why would they have the ability to influence them if they are not tainted yet.

The taint kills high though processes, makes you insane. The taint connects the darkspawn in form of a hive mind (with stronger, smarter darkspawn becoming Alphas/Omegas) And it allows a powerful dreamer/god/being to take control of them, or at least influence them.

 

I believe: The lyrium mutations in Corys body got infected AFTER the fight with Hawke.

 

Maybe (oh god I'm starting to hate this word) he started using red lyrium deliberately since it seems he have/give more power. In DA2 he could only influence the Wardens who are near to him. Not those far away. Red lyrium gave him the power to influence all of south Theads Wardens.

 

This leads me to the thought, that Solas gave his foci to an ancient tevinter magister who did NOT have the taint yet.

 

He was just looking monsterous from years of lyrium usage. He needed someone powerful.

Any Cory was a Dreamer and powerful mage. Cory being untainted... Besides him being a human there is nothing speaking against seeking help from him.

And Cory seems to be charming in his own creepy way. Many of his followers choose to follow him. 

 

----------------------------

 

This leads to the next question: The first Blight.

We know it needs broodmothers to make darkspawn.

So the Chantry says: "Tevinter magisters go to the golden city, taint it with their sin, are cast down and start the first blight."

But all the darkspawn from the first blight had to come from somewhere.

The darkspawn needed to taint women and turn them into broodmothers. Then the broodmothers needed to pop out new darkspawn. This takes time

 

In 800 TE (-395 Ancient) the magisters invaded the city. In 800 TE, the same year, the first Blight started and ended in 992 TE. That's 192 years.

 

Masses of Darkspawn just appeared and attacked everything.

 

I found this in the wiki:

 

The Andrastian Chantry teaches that the magisters were trying to usurp the Maker's throne and were cast out of the Golden City for their sinful pride. In their depravity they sought the Old Gods, and, finding Dumat slumbering deep within the earth, began the Blight. However, if the Chantry's history and Orzammar's Memories are both true, then Tevinter mages would have entered the Fade, been cursed, fled, found Dumat, raised an army, and then overrun the western thaigs all in one year. It seems more likely that the magisters had already been seeking Dumat for some time. A few Grey Warden scholars believe they may have even found him by that time, and that it was he who helped them to reach the Golden City. Different groups of mages may have been pursuing different agendas that were later fused.^[7]

 

So I believe that the Darkspawn was already breeding underground for quiet some time.

 

And what did Coryshite for 204 years until he was imprisoned? He was imprisoned in -191 Ancient. 12 years after Dumat was killed. When he wakes up he seems to remember nothing of this 204 years.

 

And only after the Third Blight (3:10 - 3:25 Towers - I want to remind that Flemeth was born in 3:00 Towers) did the Chantry start the story "Magisters invaded the golden City and started the Blights.

 

After the Third Blight, the Andrastian Chantry promoted the story that a group of magisters managed to physically enter the Fade and the Golden City of the Maker.^[4] According to that story, this act corrupted the city and led to the creation of the first darkspawn.

 

In Towers the Tevinter Chantry also split up with the the Orlesian Chantry.

 

Badbad Tevinter Magisters you caused all this is a very convenient story for the Orlais Chantry.

 

---

 

Also! The meaning of Fen'Harel changed in Towers.

 

The Dalish use "harellan" to mean "traitor to one's kin," but the word does not appear in any elven text before the Towers Age. The ancient root-word is related to "harillen," or opposition, and "hellathen," or noble struggle. The Dalish call Fen'Harel a god of deception, but I posit a far more accurate translation would be "god of rebellion."

 

 

Again its the Tower age. In which Flemeth was born. 

---------------

 

 

I have no idea what I want to say with that... I confused myself. But all this is so... To perfect with to many things that don't fit?

 

Maybe everything was not like the stories tell? Arrrghhh stupid obsession.

 

Have you read http://www.amazon.co...e/dp/1616551151 ?

It's a much simpler compilation of source material to look into with far less guessing mixed in and more of the canon possibilities. Also the RPG core book is interesting. As are many of the comics/movies/novels.

The one thing I can reply to, is I genuinely think Cory was always an asshat. And I am 80% certain that he was given the orb in a clever trickster way to kill him while using him as a tool... and it backfired because no one expected either the screw up or that he would live through the unlocking.

 

;}

[Vhenan In Fen'Harel]

In case anyone needs a laugh and to not be so sad about...things...for reasons....

I found this picture that Ispan posted:

http://i743.photobuc...autifulHair.jpg

http://forum.bioware...hns/?p=16322262

[mythlover20]

Oh my goodness. The Fabio hairdos. *Snickers*

Thank you everyone for the warm welcome, reunion, and conversation tonight. I am now heading to bed, but this time I will be back! This was a lot of fun!

Good night, all! *Waves.*

[Wheels]

Noooo! Out of likes! The first time that ever happened to me!

Any idea when it comes back? Still so much to like...

 

 

So I am doing an Assquisitor run right now and I feel just horrible. BUT, it is really fun to hear Solas insult you. Also, I feel like you get to see yet another side of Solas. His contra to your statements is really great and you see how intelligent he is.

I do start to cower in front of my monitor though when he starts screaming at. I will have to follow up this playthrough with yet another Lavellan.

 

I can't even imagine him insulting Quizzy. What did he say?!

[Illyria]

Obsidian did this almost exactly with the DLC for Fallout: New Vegas. It was actually applauded as a significant improvement story and gameplay wise for a game that had been thought as a subpar sequel to Fallout 3 (I mean I say New Vegas was better than 3 but I don't have the clout for it to mean anything).

 

Yeah no, Bioware should totally ape that all from NV. If the last DLC has the Inquisitor at The Crossroads convincing Solas not to launch the missiles Fade Veil bomb Veil shattering magic missiles at Orlais and Ferelden only to find out that he can't stop the launch sequence and can only choose whether the missiles set course for Orlais or Ferelden or ED-E Sandal sacrifices himself to stop the missiles from launching then I'm totally game.

 

FO:NV's model is exactly the sort of DLC model that Bioware should be following.  I love the way each peice of DLC works as a stand alone story but also how each of them fit together as a longer narrative and how they then tie into the wider NV story as a whole. Plus, Old World Blues is one of the most fun things I have ever played.

[Yaslana]

Have you read http://www.amazon.co...e/dp/1616551151 ?

It's a much simpler compilation of source material to look into with far less guessing mixed in and more of the canon possibilities. Also the RPG core book is interesting. As are many of the comics/movies/novels.

The one thing I can reply to, is I genuinely think Cory was always an asshat. And I am 80% certain that he was given the orb in a clever trickster way to kill him while using him as a tool... and it backfired because no one expected either the screw up or that he would live through the unlocking.

 

;}

 

I'm still trying to read the Calling ^^

 

But after that I think I have to read this...

 

Its really crazy. Everything is possible... I just... Need the DLC with all the answers NOW!

[sunhair]

So um yeah my Levellan and Solas aren't hitting it off too well in this pt 

Damn Solas why do you have to be so cold

 

Spoiler

 

[CapricornSun]

Not sure if anyone has seen this before, but on Instagram I found a cosplay couple who are going cosplay as Solas and Lavellan! Here's a shot of the constumes so far! 

 

http://instagram.com...lfq/?modal=true

 

Edit: I'll be keeping a close watch on these two. 

[kalasaurus]

So um yeah my Levellan and Solas aren't hitting it off too well in this pt 

Damn Solas why do you have to be so cold

 

Spoiler

 

Lol, Solas is such a dick to Lavellan at first.  On my next Lavellan, I'm going to pick the "Then you should know to be wary" dialogue choice with Solas when he brings up her being Dalish in the prologue... mwahahaha.

[jawsisinmywc]

How can you even do an Assquisitor pt? I'm terrified that pissing Solas off now is going to have dire consequences in the DLC or future games.

Edit: Evil typos are evil.

Oh it is in no way my head-canon! It's more of a what-if. I already have my perfect Lavellan for future content. It really does make me wonder what will happen to the Inquisitors that he hates in the future.

 

Can you take screenshots or vids?

Slight problem with that. I am going through this playthrough lightning speed and I have exhausted most of the Solas dialogue and with no saves. If I get to any interesting parts with dialogue I will take screen shots. There are of few videos online of a conversation with him where he basically tells you so suck and you have the option to hit him. Here is one for example:

Spoiler