If anyone is interested, David Gaider poster an explanation of the "almost rape" scene. It has nothing to do with Solas - thank...the maker? the creators? Thank someone.
That... was a weight lifted. Not sure why. Maybe knowing there is a limit to how far "messed up" will go. I'm glad Gaider makes these posts.
I am noticing the Sera Vs Solas fan competition and it's really quite childish. *shakes head*
It goes on in this thread. If one more person feels the need to trash Sera here, I may start screaming.
I've noticed it too. I guess it's not that shocking but it's still annoying. I feel like people decide that if their favorite character doesn't like another character, then they as their fans must dislike that character too. Reminds me of all the Fenris vs Anders silliness there used to be.
They must hate that character and fans of that character, I would just stay away from it guys...it's toxic and leads to only dark places... nurture the back of a duck.
I've noticed it too. I guess it's not that shocking but it's still annoying. I feel like people decide that if their favorite character doesn't like another character, then they as their fans must dislike that character too. Reminds me of all the Fenris vs Anders silliness there used to be.
It likely goes hand in hand with characters who don't tend to get along in game. Fenris and Anders bicker, so therefore, fans feel like they have to bicker.
The irony is that while Solas and Sera bicker, I actually think they do have an understanding. They just don't get each other as far as elves/magic are concerned.
Its true, sometimes Sera can go too far. But so can Solas. They're both dumb. In a good way.
It goes on in this thread. If one more person feels the need to trash Sera here, I may start screaming.
I may be guilty. I've been trying to be more fair now that the initial annoyance with her has worn off and I can appreciate her character. So, sorry if I've offended or offend in the future.
They must hate that character and fans of that character, I would just stay away from it guys...it's toxic and leads to only dark places... nurture the back of a duck.
Wha...what does that expression mean?
There's an actual competition? Whyyyyyy?
And Solas and Sera not liking each other...I don't think that's true? They don't get along, but it's more like a bratty youngster and an old fart not getting along rather than two people not liking each other?
Not an actual competition, but I'm noticing a rivalry and aggression between the two.
It's just...it's a classic "old man knows everything and knows how things are supposed to be and the youngster knows better because things don't have to be that way" situation. It's funny, nothing to get mad and one character or the other over.
I may be guilty. I've been trying to be more fair now that the initial annoyance with her has worn off and I can appreciate her character. So, sorry if I've offended or offend in the future.
Wha...what does that expression mean?
Haha, I mean in a "Water off a ducks back" type way 
There's an actual competition? Whyyyyyy?
And Solas and Sera not liking each other...I don't think that's true? They don't get along, but it's more like a bratty youngster and an old fart not getting along rather than two people not liking each other?
Exactly what I think, they don't hate each other, why should we? Why must fans antagonize each other? Can't we get along? I like both character, but even if I didn't I wouldn't hate other people for having a different opinion 
the internet can be silly.
Exactly what I think, they don't hate each other, why should we? Why must fans antagonize each other? Can't we get along? I like both character, but even if I didn't I wouldn't hate other people for having a different opinion
The internet is the silliest place in all of...everything...
Be unicorns my lovelies, always be unicorns.
I may be guilty. I've been trying to be more fair now that the initial annoyance with her has worn off and I can appreciate her character. So, sorry if I've offended or offend in the future.
It's not nearly as bad here as it is in a lot of places but I dread seeing Sera being brought up. Blackwall, too, actually.
The internet is the silliest place in all of...everything...
Be unicorns my lovelies, always be unicorns.
Hey, Solas and Your Trainer can talk shop with each other who knew?
How do these trigger? There are apparently dialogues between Cullen and a messenger too but I never get anything like that in Skyhold.
Exactly what I think, they don't hate each other, why should we? Why must fans antagonize each other? Can't we get along? I like both character, but even if I didn't I wouldn't hate other people for having a different opinion
Well, we can only rehash our Solas theories/post fanart/pine for Solas so much (OR CAN WE), so I suppose people do it in an idle sort of way, b/c the thought occurs to them, and they're bored.
Lol @Ajna I thought you were directly translating some idiomatic expression with that duck's back, like when "yoki-palki" is translated as "yule branches" instead of "darn it!" or something similar.
Wow, never heard those class trainer dialogues. Interesting. Was it cut, or did I just not pay attention?
On a tangent, I know its been asked before but- where does Solas's wolf fur armor come from? I'll go searching for schematics tonight.
I WAS RIGHT
Envy demon made me go
Wow, never heard those class trainer dialogues. Interesting. Was it cut, or did I just not pay attention?
On a tangent, I know its been asked before but- where does Solas's wolf fur armor come from? I'll go searching for schematics tonight.
Battlemage Mail is a random drop. You can save before opening a chest in Emprise du Lion or the Hissing Wastes and farm for the schematic. His iconic armor has the arm slot but not the leg one.
How do these trigger? There are apparently dialogues between Cullen and a messenger too but I never get anything like that in Skyhold.
I've had the Knight Enchanter trainer go stand near Vivienne after I picked a spec. I've heard her side of the dialogue but Vivienne never responds.
Battlemage Mail is a random drop. You can save before opening a chest in Emprise du Lion or the Hissing Wastes and farm for the schematic. His iconic armor has the arm slot but not the leg one.
Ah! That's brilliant. Any place I could do similar to get the dalish heavy armor, or is that on a completely different loot table?
I have not done the Champion of the Just quest yet, both playthrough were mage. I'm planning on doing the Templars this run through with my mage Lavellan for the first time. Is it really that creepy? Excited if so and very glad it wasn't Bull related or Solas related.
I'd like the try COTJ but I can't bring myself to kill my Wardens Mother in Law... do you really have to do that?
Edit: Top of page Solas.
I have not done the Champion of the Just quest yet, both playthrough were mage. I'm planning on doing the Templars this run through with my mage Lavellan for the first time. Is it really that creepy? Excited if so and very glad it wasn't Bull related or Solas related.
It's not horribly creepy, you just get a sense of unease.
It goes on in this thread. If one more person feels the need to trash Sera here, I may start screaming.
I'm sorry, I don't mean to. I do get frustrated with Sera, but I don't hate her by any means.
The internet is the silliest place in all of...everything...
Be unicorns my lovelies, always be unicorns.
Out of likes, have a vhenan 
Well, we can only rehash our Solas theories/post fanart/pine for Solas so much (OR CAN WE), so I suppose people do it in an idle sort of way, b/c the thought occurs to them, and they're bored.
Lol @Ajna I thought you were directly translating some idiomatic expression with that duck's back, like when "yoki-palki" is translated as "yule branches" instead of "darn it!" or something similar.
Hi drake! XD lol I'm so easily amused...
It goes on in this thread. If one more person feels the need to trash Sera here, I may start screaming.
I'm sure I've been guilty of it. But I also express reasons for it. I liked her, I really did, up until a point. My humans think she's great. My Lavellans are different. For obvious reasons. But that also makes the character interesting. *shrugs*
Ah! That's brilliant. Any place I could do similar to get the dalish heavy armor, or is that on a completely different loot table?
I've never found the dalish heavy armor. It appears to be a tier 2 schematic (battlemage mail is tier 3), so maybe Exalted Plains or Emerald Graves?
I'm sorry, I don't mean to. I do get frustrated with Sera, but I don't hate her by any means.
I'm sure I've been guilty of it. But I also express reasons for it. I liked her, I really did, up until a point. My humans think she's great. My Lavellans are different. For obvious reasons. But that also makes the character interesting. *shrugs*
There are good reasons to dislike the character, certainly. I'm not annoyed by personal taste. I'm annoyed that sometimes this thread becomes less of a Solas thread and more of a "why I hate Sera/why Solas is better" thread. The same thing happens with Blackwall, even though there are good reasons to discuss both characters in relation to Solas, it too often turns into a chain of posts about how the character who isn't Solas is the worst.
There are Sera and Blackwall fans in the thread. It couldn't hurt to be a little respectful of how it feels to come into a thread for appreciating one character only to have to put up with the disparaging of another.
How do these trigger? There are apparently dialogues between Cullen and a messenger too but I never get anything like that in Skyhold.
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