Statue definitely looks male to me, not like a dragon.
I think I missed the fashion vs form discussion but - ALWAYS FASHION!!! My characters all have to look pretty whilst saving the world!
I mean, they're all gonna be famous and have murals and statues made of them - would be so embarrassing to be pictured for all eternity in plaid!
In the post game conversation between Solas and Cole, Solas says "you might see the path I must now walk in solitude forever". The most common opinion on Solas' goals seem to be releasing the Elvhen gods. But why would that leave him in solitude forever? Sounds like that would be a pretty quick thing to bring them back, and then he wouldn't be alone.
I have trouble with this too. I can't possibly imagine what can Solas do that he's going to be alone forever and Lavellan can't be any part of it but she still is going to know when the time comes (or so one should think considering in one of his answer in the break-up scene he says "you'll see").
Usually the character in question would be simply facing dead and trying to protect his/her lover, but he's inmortal and Lavellan could have died in the battle againts Corypheus, so why would he be so protective all of a sudden?
I honestly have no idea what the writters have in mind (thouhg I'm not terribly imaginative, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised 
) All I can think is that he knows that if he tells you (you, or anyone else) you'd probable go "WTF?!" so he's afraid you'll try to stop him (and I guess he is afraid that you will succeed in stopping him, of course, or worse, that he will have to kill you).
Everything I can think about this keeps pointing to Solas becoming a villain 
I had a new thought about the Veil and one of Solas' potential goals.
He says that battlefields are the best places because lots of spirits weaken the Veil enough that he could practically pass through with a thought.
He's probably exaggerating a little bit, but what if restoring the Veil simply means weakening the curtain enough so that everyone has the capability to "cross" the Veil regardless of whether they are mages or awake?
The codex entry describing the Veil states it's more like a state of being and less a physical curtain. Like...shifting to the Shadow Plane in Neverwinter Nights 2/Shadows of Undrentide. It's a plane that mirrors the prime one, but is a little twisted and weird stuff roams around in there.
Ancient elves are also known to be so connected with magic and the Fade that it was a natural as breathing. Shifting between the mortal realm and the Fade would be as easy as counting to 3, and therefore lots of interaction with spirits, and the ability to alter the Fade. It probably wasn't as weird or dangerous for ancient elves to talk to spirits, make friendships, etc.
Now, Solas has you activating elven artifacts to strengthen the Veil in order to prevent tears from forming. I think that's an important part of the sentence that is getting a little overlooked whenever people bring them up. Tears in the Veil pull spirits through unwillingly, which greatly increases the risk of them turning into demons.
Therefore, it's not against his goal of weakening the Veil as a whole. He would much rather preserve all the non-hostile spirits and give them the choice of crossing the Veil, rather than force, say, a giant Breach in the sky to expand over the whole world. In the mage quest, Solas wasn't very happy at all that the Breach is everywhere. There might not have been a Veil left, but the fact that the giant whole still pulls all the spirits through forcefully means there probably weren't many non-hostile spirits left in the Fade.
I don't think he'd wake up someone like Falon'Din who wanted to wave his 'god' status around and butcher people to get more admirers, though. When you say you'd put things right "well, not exactly" Solas said he understood. He doesn't want things exactly like they were. I think there has to be some among the pantheon that aren't completely out of it, or perhaps there are other people like elves in uthenera trapped behind the mirror and Solas doesn't want to wake them to see the world they're in or something. He seems to care about the people referenced by Cole, and he shows no love for some of the 'gods'.
True, it probably isn't as simple as just releasing the gods. Or maybe they weren't as bad as the legends made them seem. The Fen'Harel legends aren't 100% true afterall. Cole said that he locked them away "to save them. Not to be right".
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I'm on the fence about who exactly Solas is trying to free from behind the mirrors. Maybe he's trying to release a trapped colony of ancient elves that aren't gods, but something feels off... "if you're real, everyone could be real"...? And the elven gods were the ones he sealed away, so that sounds more like what he's trying to undo. I still can't figure out why, but there's still a lot of questions concerning why sealing the gods away resulted in such dramatic changes to the elves, and potentially the world itself.
I think the line about being everyone being real, shows that he doesn't really view the modern people as real. When you go into the future, you can tell the other characters that that future "isn't real". Leiliana get's really angry about this, because she lived through that year. I think Solas see's the present in the same way. It wasn't how things were supposed to turn out, and he wants to restore the present to what it should be. He's really bad at not connecting to the current people, but he's trying too, because if they are real he has to accept that he's going to hurt a lot of people.
Ok, here are some flycam shots of the statue. Very definitely a hooded person:
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Awesome! I know the blood could be symbolic or something...but what if that person was alive? There was an alive statues in the mage origin. I remember because she talked to me.
Ok, here are some flycam shots of the statue. Very definitely a hooded person:
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Those are great! Thanks for taking them. At least we know for sure what we're looking at now.
Well, however this all goes, I hope there is a special ending for those Inquisitors who romanced him.
True, it probably isn't as simple as just releasing the gods. Or maybe they weren't as bad as the legends made them seem. The Fen'Harel legends aren't 100% true afterall. Cole said that he locked them away "to save them. Not to be right".
I think most of them had benevolent legends, though, and those are the ones that are turning out to not be true just like Fen'Harel's malevolent legends. I think there has to be a mix, some of them appear a lot more evil than they're made out to be in the Dalish legends (like Falon'Din) and some probably gray like Fen'Harel (though this is an assumption).
It's so creepy that there seems to be a proto templar in ancient elven art (unless that's from the Dales era). So many connections...
I'd suspect that is Dalish art - given that all of the Dales used to belong to them it could possibly be a retelling of the Second Exalted March from the perspective of the Elves- after all we get the Chantry/Orlesian perspective from the monuments in the Exalted Plains why would the elves not seek to depict their version of events. This is one of the things I love about DA. There is his side, her side, and the truth somewhere in the middle of both of them. In the case of all three games it is trying to figure out what the truth is when presented with what the Chantry, the Grey Wardens, the Elves, the Humans, the mages, and everyone else in Thedas who doesn't give a $%%^$ about any of these groups says -- are claiming to be the truth. And the only people who actually know the truth are the writers until we reach the final game in the DA series.
Arlathan and Tevinter existed at the same time. But it's been implied that the Elven Gods were all locked away long before Arlathan fell. I think it's pretty clear at this point that whoever betrayed Mythal was among the elves, and I suspect one of the other Creators. (Elgar'nan, I'm looking at you.) Tevinter might have dealt the final blow to Arlathan, but whatever brought the elves down low to begin with was conflict between the elves themselves, as Abelas says.
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True, it probably isn't as simple as just releasing the gods. Or maybe they weren't as bad as the legends made them seem. The Fen'Harel legends aren't 100% true afterall. Cole said that he locked them away "to save them. Not to be right".
Well... to save the gods, or to save the people? Do we actually know either way?
I think most of them had benevolent legends, though, and those are the ones that are turning out to not be true just like Fen'Harel's malevolent legends. I think there has to be a mix, some of them appear a lot more evil than they're made out to be in the Dalish legends (like Falon'Din) and some probably gray like Fen'Harel (though this is an assumption).
I'm more worried about the Forgotten ones: Geldauran, Daern'thal and Anaris
Why would Solas want to release the 'gods' if they're like Falon'Din or Andruil? I don't think he would unless there was a way to say cure Andruil from whatever was making her act the way she did. The only way I could see him wanting to release the 'gods' is if some of them aren't evil/insane. Maybe we're wrong about June, perhaps he's a reasonable sort and didn't do it all after all.
What about June? Feel like I missed some gossip or a codex or something.
Ok, here are some flycam shots of the statue. Very definitely a hooded person:
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Any way to get a good shot of the sword itself? Am curious if it's one we can recognize or has some type of meaning/symbolism carved on it. If there's anything obvious there, it may point to who murdered Mythal. Or whatever is going on in this crazy Fade scene.
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I think the line about being everyone being real, shows that he doesn't really view the modern people as real. When you go into the future, you can tell the other characters that that future "isn't real". Leiliana get's really angry about this, because she lived through that year. I think Solas see's the present in the same way. It wasn't how things were supposed to turn out, and he wants to restore the present to what it should be. He's really bad at not connecting to the current people, but he's trying too, because if they are real he has to accept that he's going to hurt a lot of people.
I think this is very true. He's also spent most of his time, possibly thousands of years, asleep. Everything must feel sort of...off. Not real. Nothing he knows is what it is supposed to be. If you look at the Exalted Plains, you really get the sense of the world as we know it being somewhat post-apocalyptic for anyone who remembered the greatness of the old days. Just endless ruins and graves.
I don't think he views the time itself as being unreal, since he can't travel through time. But I think he may have originally given the orb over to Corypheus with the thought that so many people had already died, what difference did a few more make? Especially if what he intended to do would fix things.
But that, quite literally, blew up in his face. It didn't make anything better. It made everything about a thousand times worse.
There's still the question though of what he thought he would be able to do. Or what his end plan is. Like I said earlier, I don't think its just that he wants to free the elven gods. Although I suspect that will inevitably be the outcome, whether he intends for it or not.
You guys move so fast!
Several pages back, there was a tweet about releasing the meanings of each valasllin. I was wondering if that has happened yet?
Thanks much!
I don't believe so. But, they were contacting Matt Rhodes! So, hopefully it will.
If I had to guess, its possible they were planning to release it and then someone internally snatched it away to release in the next Worlds of Thedas book.
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Any way to get a good shot of the sword itself? Am curious if it's one we can recognize or has some type of meaning/symbolism carved on it. If there's anything obvious there, it may point to who murdered Mythal. Or whatever is going on in this crazy Fade scene.
I had that idea, but didn't notice anything :/ I can take a close-up again later though,
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Gotta add my view to the "What is Solas' true plan and motivation and regret?" theory.
Solas hints many times that Ancient Arlathan society, nobility and/or "gods" were little better than Orlais or Tevinter; that there was corruption, tyranny, slavery, politicking and court intrigue just like now. Bring him to the Winter Palace and he mentions afterwards that he forgot how much he missed the dangers of court intrigue. Since we know who he is, he probably experienced it in Ancient Arlathan. When he reveals the truth of the vallaslin, that they were slave markings nobles carved into their slaves to honor their gods, Lavellan can lament that the Dalish try so hard to remember what once was, but they wind up holding onto relics of a time "no better than Tevinter."
The game also hints many times that Solas deeply regrets something he did in the past (which Cole touches on). That he's experienced war and intrigue and considers himself something of a veteran like Blackwall, who asks if he was involved with "some elven skirmish," which Solas cagily says he would not have heard of. Since the Dalish have pinned him as the one that trapped the Elven Gods (which Cole touches on when he mentions "they sleep, hurting"), and he strongly implies that he's done something to make this future, maybe...
If you drink from the Well of Sorrows and Solas asks you what you intend to do with it, if you say you want to make the world a better place, he rather heart-wrenchingly asks you "what if you wake up in the future and the world is worse than the one you sought to change?" If you say you want to rely on the advice of others, he says that while individuals help people, "groups never do." He feels that groups and organizations inevitably become corrupt and self-serving, and mentions that he knows firsthand how frustrating to see fools undermine all the good you sacrificed to obtain.
However, if you say you want to undo the damage Corypheus has caused and set the world straight again, he approves. EDIT: He seems the most cheered, and even smiles, "Perhaps our past can be restored."
It seems that Solas no longer believes in lofty ideas like "change the world for the better" or "rely on groups / organizations to help people," but he does believe in fixing a specific problem that had created a specific outcome. Which makes sense, when one keeps in mind the whole reason he's involved in the game is to try to undo his specific mistake of giving Corypheus the Orb. And before that, it's implied that the reason he gave Corypheus the Orb was to use it to fix a specific mistake he made in his past to create the current present. (Which might have something to do with the absence of the Elven Gods, which the Dalish pinpoint Fen'Harel as the culprit, which might have something to do with his many hints that they were like Orlais or Tevinter, which may or may not tie into Mythal's betrayal and murder.)
Add all this to the Stinger, where he tells Mythal that he knows he should pay the price for giving Corypheus the Orb but the People still need him, and it seems that he's determined to fix whatever mistake in the past he attributes to the world's current problems and believes he must do it alone; not rely on the Inquisitor, Inquisition, or anyone else.
Okay, well, maybe that was a little obvious. I just suspect that Ancient Arlathan's corruption as well as it's possible destructive war with the Forgotten Ones and/or it's possible connection to Mythal's betrayal and murder, might have motivated his past mistake. It's possible that in the past he might have thought the common elves of ancient times would be better off without the elven gods' politicking and power-play holding them down (slave-markings and whatnot) and did what he did because he wanted to help the People, but somehow slept through what happened next and "woke up" to find the world was worse after what he did than before, and wanted to use the Orb to fix it. Now that the Orb is broken, on to Plan B.
*exhales deeply*
Plaid actually looks surprisingly pretty on Vivienne! Put her in adventurere gear though, and blech! There is armour that makes Vivienne look like an overstuffed pillow!
Plaid actually looks surprisingly pretty on Vivienne! Put her in adventurere gear though, and blech! There is armour that makes Vivienne look like an overstuffed pillow!
Yes, it's testament to Viv's queenly bearing that she can even make plaidweave look good. 
However, if you say you want to undo the damage Corypheus has caused and set the world straight again, he approves. (In fact, it's the only answer you can give to his "What will you do with the Well of Sorrows?" question that he approves of.) He even smiles, "Perhaps our past can be restored."
He does 'slightly approve' if you pick the 'make the world better' option, though. So I don't think he has completely given up on the idea. Perhaps fixing past mistakes will make the world better in his vision.
Unless he can do Corypheus' trick...but I'm just gonna draw a line somewhere. 
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