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I think the Inquisitor was probably just a mortal with the Dread Wolf's own luck to be in the right place at the right time. Then touches the fovci in the ritual and now she's walking around with the power of a god in the palm of her hand. That's got to change a lass.


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Oh no.  Guys.   I just had a revelation, and it's- it's not good.  Solas is far more broken and far more dangerous than we realized.  

 

This is bad. And awesome.  But also very, very bad.  Typing as fast as I can, but need to find references.  Cuddle the fuzzball while he's still cuddleable, because he wasn't kidding about people having a face they want to show, and a face they do not. 

 

...two faces, really.  Though there's just one super problematic face.  Of the four, if you're counting.  

 

WEEKES.  GODDAMN IT, YOU KNEW ALL ALONG, WEEKES.

 

*shakes a fist at the sky*

Wt... I'm scared now

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Wt... I'm scared now

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Me too.  I am really tired and should be sleeping.  But I am feeling compelled to wait for whatever this is.



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Me too.  I am really tired and should be sleeping.  But I am feeling compelled to wait for whatever this is.

Let us all hold hands and damn Madrar's eyes.  :lol:


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Aw man, I watched a break up video on the final romance scene. While you were apologizing for leading him on, he kept shaking his head.

 

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You know what's the worst thing?

Reading though all the theories (which are awesome!), codex entries...

About Andraste's daughters and Morrigan and Flemythal, Shartan, and the fall of the Dales and June as Sandal, Dumat, and Eleni Zinovia and what not... And I know that there just has to be something in there, but we just don't see it!

It drives me insane!!!


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TOO LATE FOR NOPE.   I wanted to hold this in, I really really did, because it's a metric fuckton of nutbag in one tiny post.  But the poison must out.

 

Fen'Harel was three Old Gods.

 

One entity.  Three Pantheon gods.   I may be chasing an elaborate red herring, but there's simply too much evidence to ignore: Solas is Fen'Harel, but before that, he was Dirthamen / Falon'Din.  His powers are their powers, his sins are their sins, and it would finally explain both his transformation to the Dread Wolf and his redemption to the Pantheon under the watchful eye of Mythal.  

 

1.   "You're different, Solas.  You're in both places." 

This is the key to unraveling the core contradiction of the mythical Twins that are not Twins.  They are aspects of the same being- an entity existing both fully in the fade and fully in the physical.  (If this is indeed unique to Solas, this puts a wrench in some of my other theories- though it's possible whatever happened to entities that pre-existed the veil when it went up left him somehow intact while the rest were split).  

 

2.  "Ma ghilana mir din'an."  

"Guide me into death."  The final request of the spirit of Wisdom in Solas' personal quest.  Aside from Mythal, this is the character most likely to have known Solas before he was cast down as the Dread Wolf or restored to the Pantheon as Fen'Harel.  He greets her as kin -"lethallin"- and she responds in kind, speaking to him as the form in which she knows him best: Falon'Din, friend and guide to those on the other side of the Veil.  Solas as F'D hardly needs to be explained.  Solas.  Fade!  Solas.  Spirits are Awesome! Solas.

 

3.  "May her ashes be gathered by Falon'Din and carried safely."

Solas approves. ...yes, I know. "He's a compassionate person!"  But you don't get his approval from rescuing druffalo, do you.

 

4.  "You really don't let anybody see under that polite mask you wear, do you?"

~ insert appropriately snide and scathing comments about Dirthamen, God of Secrets, and the damned apostate elf whose favorite pastime is not telling anyone, anything, ever. ~

 

5.  "Though you reach out in compassion, I must now insist that you... forget."

This is the only direct clue we have that links him to Dirthamen as well as Falon'Din.  The important distinction here is the difference between Solas and Cole's abilities.  As a Spirit of Compassion, Cole's domain is pain and hurt, which allows him to see the path that Solas has chosen.  But there's not necessarily any hurt or pain involved in taking that away.  (Unless you assume that Cole was unduly upset by what he found.  Ignore that.  Stay with me.)  What Solas is doing is different.  What's being washed from Cole's mind is knowledge- or more accurately, a secret.  As we see at his temple, this is the core of Dirthamen's power and the boon he grants his followers: relieving them of the burden of their secrets.  

 

The secrets are madness in our ears, but they are ours

The Highest One cannot take them from us.
Only Dirthamen, our Keeper, only he
And if he does not take the secrets
they are ours forever.

 

6.  "I do not believe they sing songs about Falon'Din's vanity."

Vanity.  Arrogance.  Ego.  Pride.  They are all one and the same.  If Solas' sins are Falon'Din's sins, then he has more blood on his hands than any of us would ever have imagined.  "The blood of those who would not bow low filled lakes as wide as oceans", until he turned on Mythal.  Even then, with the combined force of an allied Pantheon, he only surrendered when his brethren bloodied him in his own temple. This, then, is his great crime- the treason for which he was first stripped of both his standing and form and cast as a monstrous beast into the Abyss.  This is how the Dread Wolf began.  

 

7.   "But Mythal’s magic sapped Andruil’s strength, and stole her knowledge of how to find the Void."

But how did the Dread Wolf end and Fen'Harel begin?  What service could he possibly have offered to the Pantheon to regain his place among them?  The answer lies in a threat to the Pantheon greater than any he had ever posed:  the blighted madness of Andruil.  Mythal needed him.  She could subdue Andruil with her magic, but only Dirthamen had the power to wipe Andruil's secret path to the Void from her mind.  In exchange for this service, the Dread Wolf rose to the Pantheon once more as Fen'Harel, loyal Hound of Mythal.  

 

8.  A picture is worth a thousand words.  

Don't tell me you don't see it.  You do.

 

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I know this is insanity, but screw it- I like it, and I'm keeping it.  It feels right.  Doesn't it?  

 

And not just because it makes Solas #3 on the Pantheon power list, instead of being some random elf punished, then inexplicably raised to Pantheon, then bound to Mythal.  It also means that if I'm right about Mythal's orb not just being a focus, but a physical representation of her leash on him and the restriction of his powers... 

 

...we are in for some serious, serious, badassery now that it's rubble.  

 

 

Solas: "Most tales paint Falon'Din's stubbornness second only to his self-regard."
Inquisitor:  "I'm surprised they let such a monster live."
Solas:  "One does not lightly kill a god, Inquisitor. Even in legend."
 

ohhh, you sly wolf. 


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Aw man, I watched a break up video on the final romance scene. While you were apologizing for leading him on, he kept shaking his head.

 

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Awwww the way he walks away, I've never seen this :crying:



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TOO LATE FOR NOPE.   I wanted to hold this in, I really really did, because it's a metric fuckton of nutbag in one tiny post.  But the poison must out.

 

Fen'Harel was three Old Gods.

 

One entity.  Three Pantheon gods.   I may be chasing an elaborate red herring, but there's simply too much evidence to ignore: Solas is Fen'Harel, but before that, he was Dirthamen / Falon'Din.  His powers are their powers, his sins are their sins, and it would finally explain both his transformation to the Dread Wolf and his redemption to the Pantheon under the watchful eye of Mythal.  

 

1.   "You're different, Solas.  You're in both places." 

This is the key to unraveling the core contradiction of the mythical Twins that are not Twins.  They are aspects of the same being- an entity existing both fully in the fade and fully in the physical.  (If this is indeed unique to Solas, this puts a wrench in some of my other theories- though it's possible whatever happened to entities that pre-existed the veil when it went up left him somehow intact while the rest were split).  

 

2.  "Ma ghilana mir din'an."  

"Guide me into death."  The final request of the spirit of Wisdom in Solas' personal quest.  Aside from Mythal, this is the character most likely to have known Solas before he was cast down as the Dread Wolf or restored to the Pantheon as Fen'Harel.  He greets her as kin -"lethallin"- and she responds in kind, speaking to him as the form in which she knows him best: Falon'Din, friend and guide to those on the other side of the Veil.  Solas as F'D hardly needs to be explained.  Solas.  Fade!  Solas.  Spirits are Awesome! Solas.

 

3.  "May her ashes be gathered by Falon'Din and carried safely."

Solas approves. ...yes, I know. "He's a compassionate person!"  But you don't get his approval from rescuing druffalo, do you.

 

4.  "You really don't let anybody see under that polite mask you wear, do you?"

~ insert appropriately snide and scathing comments about Dirthamen, God of Secrets, and the damned apostate elf whose favorite pastime is not telling anyone, anything, ever. ~

 

5.  "Though you reach out in compassion, I must now insist that you... forget."

This is the only direct clue we have that links him to Dirthamen as well as Falon'Din.  The important distinction here is the difference between Solas and Cole's abilities.  As a Spirit of Compassion, Cole's domain is pain and hurt, which allows him to see the path that Solas has chosen.  But there's not necessarily any hurt or pain involved in taking that away.  (Unless you assume that Cole was unduly upset by what he found.  Ignore that.  Stay with me.)  What Solas is doing is different.  What's being washed from Cole's mind is knowledge- or more accurately, a secret.  As we see at his temple, this is the core of Dirthamen's power and the boon he grants his followers: relieving them of the burden of their secrets.  

 

The secrets are madness in our ears, but they are ours

The Highest One cannot take them from us.
Only Dirthamen, our Keeper, only he
And if he does not take the secrets
they are ours forever.

 

6.  "I do not believe they sing songs about Falon'Din's vanity."

Vanity.  Arrogance.  Ego.  Pride.  They are all one and the same.  If Solas' sins are Falon'Din's sins, then he has more blood on his hands than any of us would ever have imagined.  "The blood of those who would not bow low filled lakes as wide as oceans", until he turned on Mythal.  Even then, with the combined force of an allied Pantheon, he only surrendered when his brethren bloodied him in his own temple. This, then, is his great crime- the treason for which he was first stripped of both his standing and form and cast as a monstrous beast into the Abyss.  This is how the Dread Wolf began.  

 

7.   "But Mythal’s magic sapped Andruil’s strength, and stole her knowledge of how to find the Void."

But how did the Dread Wolf end and Fen'Harel begin?  What service could he possibly have offered to the Pantheon to regain his place among them?  The answer lies in a threat to the Pantheon greater than any he had ever posed:  the blighted madness of Andruil.  Mythal needed him.  She could subdue Andruil with her magic, but only Dirthamen had the power to wipe Andruil's secret path to the Void from her mind.  In exchange for this service, the Dread Wolf rose to the Pantheon once more as Fen'Harel, loyal Hound of Mythal.  

 

8.  A picture is worth a thousand words.  

Don't tell me you don't see it.  You do.

 

tumblr_inline_nheswlDyyE1r06bfy.png

 

I know this is insanity, but screw it- I like it, and I'm keeping it.  It feels right.  Doesn't it?  

 

And not just because it makes Solas #3 on the Pantheon power list, instead of being some random elf punished, then inexplicably raised to Pantheon, then bound to Mythal.  It also means that if I'm right about Mythal's orb not just being a focus, but a physical representation of her leash on him and the restriction of his powers... 

 

...we are in for some serious, serious, badassery.  

 

 

Solas: "Most tales paint Falon'Din's stubbornness second only to his self-regard."
Inquisitor:  "I'm surprised they let such a monster live."
Solas:  "One does not lightly kill a god, Inquisitor. Even in legend."
 

ohhh, you sly wolf. 

You're either Dagoth Ur or Cassandra. (The Greek one, not the Nevarran one.)

EDIT: The lines he speaks to the spirit are very, very interesting in this context.

One of the problems I see is that the judged prisoner is a 'follower of Dirthamen' who assumed the form of the divine. The image of a creature with many eyes (The Dread Wolf often being depicted with six) is certainly striking and rings of Solas.

If Falon'din was as much of an ******* as 'What Pride Had Wrought' hints toward, then Solas's self-effacement makes sense.

What exactly am I supposed to see in the picture? Two wolves representing the double-duty as gods?

I dunno. It's a very interesting sort of madness. :D



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Unless some of you, I'm looking forward to seeing Solas become an antagonist then killing him with the next protagonist. Not out of vengeance for the break up but it makes the great tragedy. I romanced Anders, support him in every way such as memoirs and freedom of all mages. Then, I killed him. 

 

Personally preferred fenris but I'm a sucker for tragedies. So I made the second playthrough my canon.


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TOO LATE FOR NOPE.   I wanted to hold this in, I really really did, because it's a metric fuckton of nutbag in one tiny post.  But the poison must out.

 

Fen'Harel was three Old Gods.

 

One entity.  Three Pantheon gods.   I may be chasing an elaborate red herring, but there's simply too much evidence to ignore: Solas is Fen'Harel, but before that, he was Dirthamen / Falon'Din.  His powers are their powers, his sins are their sins, and it would finally explain both his transformation to the Dread Wolf and his redemption to the Pantheon under the watchful eye of Mythal.  

 

1.   "You're different, Solas.  You're in both places." 

This is the key to unraveling the core contradiction of the mythical Twins that are not Twins.  They are aspects of the same being- an entity existing both fully in the fade and fully in the physical.  (If this is indeed unique to Solas, this puts a wrench in some of my other theories- though it's possible whatever happened to entities that pre-existed the veil when it went up left him somehow intact while the rest were split).  

 

2.  "Ma ghilana mir din'an."  

"Guide me into death."  The final request of the spirit of Wisdom in Solas' personal quest.  Aside from Mythal, this is the character most likely to have known Solas before he was cast down as the Dread Wolf or restored to the Pantheon as Fen'Harel.  He greets her as kin -"lethallin"- and she responds in kind, speaking to him as the form in which she knows him best: Falon'Din, friend and guide to those on the other side of the Veil.  Solas as F'D hardly needs to be explained.  Solas.  Fade!  Solas.  Spirits are Awesome! Solas.

 

3.  "May her ashes be gathered by Falon'Din and carried safely."

Solas approves. ...yes, I know. "He's a compassionate person!"  But you don't get his approval from rescuing druffalo, do you.

 

4.  "You really don't let anybody see under that polite mask you wear, do you?"

~ insert appropriately snide and scathing comments about Dirthamen, God of Secrets, and the damned apostate elf whose favorite pastime is not telling anyone, anything, ever. ~

 

5.  "Though you reach out in compassion, I must now insist that you... forget."

This is the only direct clue we have that links him to Dirthamen as well as Falon'Din.  The important distinction here is the difference between Solas and Cole's abilities.  As a Spirit of Compassion, Cole's domain is pain and hurt, which allows him to see the path that Solas has chosen.  But there's not necessarily any hurt or pain involved in taking that away.  (Unless you assume that Cole was unduly upset by what he found.  Ignore that.  Stay with me.)  What Solas is doing is different.  What's being washed from Cole's mind is knowledge- or more accurately, a secret.  As we see at his temple, this is the core of Dirthamen's power and the boon he grants his followers: relieving them of the burden of their secrets.  

 

The secrets are madness in our ears, but they are ours

The Highest One cannot take them from us.
Only Dirthamen, our Keeper, only he
And if he does not take the secrets
they are ours forever.

 

6.  "I do not believe they sing songs about Falon'Din's vanity."

Vanity.  Arrogance.  Ego.  Pride.  They are all one and the same.  If Solas' sins are Falon'Din's sins, then he has more blood on his hands than any of us would ever have imagined.  "The blood of those who would not bow low filled lakes as wide as oceans", until he turned on Mythal.  Even then, with the combined force of an allied Pantheon, he only surrendered when his brethren bloodied him in his own temple. This, then, is his great crime- the treason for which he was first stripped of both his standing and form and cast as a monstrous beast into the Abyss.  This is how the Dread Wolf began.  

 

7.   "But Mythal’s magic sapped Andruil’s strength, and stole her knowledge of how to find the Void."

But how did the Dread Wolf end and Fen'Harel begin?  What service could he possibly have offered to the Pantheon to regain his place among them?  The answer lies in a threat to the Pantheon greater than any he had ever posed:  the blighted madness of Andruil.  Mythal needed him.  She could subdue Andruil with her magic, but only Dirthamen had the power to wipe Andruil's secret path to the Void from her mind.  In exchange for this service, the Dread Wolf rose to the Pantheon once more as Fen'Harel, loyal Hound of Mythal.  

 

8.  A picture is worth a thousand words.  

Don't tell me you don't see it.  You do.

 

tumblr_inline_nheswlDyyE1r06bfy.png

 

I know this is insanity, but screw it- I like it, and I'm keeping it.  It feels right.  Doesn't it?  

 

And not just because it makes Solas #3 on the Pantheon power list, instead of being some random elf punished, then inexplicably raised to Pantheon, then bound to Mythal.  It also means that if I'm right about Mythal's orb not just being a focus, but a physical representation of her leash on him and the restriction of his powers... 

 

...we are in for some serious, serious, badassery.  

 

 

Solas: "Most tales paint Falon'Din's stubbornness second only to his self-regard."
Inquisitor:  "I'm surprised they let such a monster live."
Solas:  "One does not lightly kill a god, Inquisitor. Even in legend."
 

ohhh, you sly wolf. 

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TOO LATE FOR NOPE.   I wanted to hold this in, I really really did, because it's a metric fuckton of nutbag in one tiny post.  But the poison must out.
 
Fen'Harel was three Old Gods.
 
One entity.  Three Pantheon gods.   I may be chasing an elaborate red herring, but there's simply too much evidence to ignore: Solas is Fen'Harel, but before that, he was Dirthamen / Falon'Din.  His powers are their powers, his sins are their sins, and it would finally explain both his transformation to the Dread Wolf and his redemption to the Pantheon under the watchful eye of Mythal.  
 
1.   "You're different, Solas.  You're in both places." 
This is the key to unraveling the core contradiction of the mythical Twins that are not Twins.  They are aspects of the same being- an entity existing both fully in the fade and fully in the physical.  (If this is indeed unique to Solas, this puts a wrench in some of my other theories- though it's possible whatever happened to entities that pre-existed the veil when it went up left him somehow intact while the rest were split).  
 
2.  "Ma ghilana mir din'an."  
"Guide me into death."  The final request of the spirit of Wisdom in Solas' personal quest.  Aside from Mythal, this is the character most likely to have known Solas before he was cast down as the Dread Wolf or restored to the Pantheon as Fen'Harel.  He greets her as kin -"lethallin"- and she responds in kind, speaking to him as the form in which she knows him best: Falon'Din, friend and guide to those on the other side of the Veil.  Solas as F'D hardly needs to be explained.  Solas.  Fade!  Solas.  Spirits are Awesome! Solas.
 
3.  "May her ashes be gathered by Falon'Din and carried safely."
Solas approves. ...yes, I know. "He's a compassionate person!"  But you don't get his approval from rescuing druffalo, do you.
 
4.  "You really don't let anybody see under that polite mask you wear, do you?"
~ insert appropriately snide and scathing comments about Dirthamen, God of Secrets, and the damned apostate elf whose favorite pastime is not telling anyone, anything, ever. ~
 
5.  "Though you reach out in compassion, I must now insist that you... forget."
This is the only direct clue we have that links him to Dirthamen as well as Falon'Din.  The important distinction here is the difference between Solas and Cole's abilities.  As a Spirit of Compassion, Cole's domain is pain and hurt, which allows him to see the path that Solas has chosen.  But there's not necessarily any hurt or pain involved in taking that away.  (Unless you assume that Cole was unduly upset by what he found.  Ignore that.  Stay with me.)  What Solas is doing is different.  What's being washed from Cole's mind is knowledge- or more accurately, a secret.  As we see at his temple, this is the core of Dirthamen's power and the boon he grants his followers: relieving them of the burden of their secrets.  
 
The secrets are madness in our ears, but they are ours
The Highest One cannot take them from us.
Only Dirthamen, our Keeper, only he
And if he does not take the secrets
they are ours forever.
 
6.  "I do not believe they sing songs about Falon'Din's vanity."
Vanity.  Arrogance.  Ego.  Pride.  They are all one and the same.  If Solas' sins are Falon'Din's sins, then he has more blood on his hands than any of us would ever have imagined.  "The blood of those who would not bow low filled lakes as wide as oceans", until he turned on Mythal.  Even then, with the combined force of an allied Pantheon, he only surrendered when his brethren bloodied him in his own temple. This, then, is his great crime- the treason for which he was first stripped of both his standing and form and cast as a monstrous beast into the Abyss.  This is how the Dread Wolf began.  
 
7.   "But Mythal’s magic sapped Andruil’s strength, and stole her knowledge of how to find the Void."
But how did the Dread Wolf end and Fen'Harel begin?  What service could he possibly have offered to the Pantheon to regain his place among them?  The answer lies in a threat to the Pantheon greater than any he had ever posed:  the blighted madness of Andruil.  Mythal needed him.  She could subdue Andruil with her magic, but only Dirthamen had the power to wipe Andruil's secret path to the Void from her mind.  In exchange for this service, the Dread Wolf rose to the Pantheon once more as Fen'Harel, loyal Hound of Mythal.  
 
8.  A picture is worth a thousand words.  
Don't tell me you don't see it.  You do.
 
tumblr_inline_nheswlDyyE1r06bfy.png
 
I know this is insanity, but screw it- I like it, and I'm keeping it.  It feels right.  Doesn't it?  
 
And not just because it makes Solas #3 on the Pantheon power list, instead of being some random elf punished, then inexplicably raised to Pantheon, then bound to Mythal.  It also means that if I'm right about Mythal's orb not just being a focus, but a physical representation of her leash on him and the restriction of his powers... 
 
...we are in for some serious, serious, badassery.  
 
 
Solas: "Most tales paint Falon'Din's stubbornness second only to his self-regard."
Inquisitor:  "I'm surprised they let such a monster live."
Solas:  "One does not lightly kill a god, Inquisitor. Even in legend."
 
ohhh, you sly wolf. 


If this theory is true... well, ****.
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TOO LATE FOR NOPE. I wanted to hold this in, I really really did, because it's a metric fuckton of nutbag in one tiny post. But the poison must out.

Fen'Harel was three Old Gods.

One entity. Three Pantheon gods. I may be chasing an elaborate red herring, but there's simply too much evidence to ignore: Solas is Fen'Harel, but before that, he was Dirthamen / Falon'Din. His powers are their powers, his sins are their sins, and it would finally explain both his transformation to the Dread Wolf and his redemption to the Pantheon under the watchful eye of Mythal.

1. "You're different, Solas. You're in both places."
This is the key to unraveling the core contradiction of the mythical Twins that are not Twins. They are aspects of the same being- an entity existing both fully in the fade and fully in the physical. (If this is indeed unique to Solas, this puts a wrench in some of my other theories- though it's possible whatever happened to entities that pre-existed the veil when it went up left him somehow intact while the rest were split).

2. "Ma ghilana mir din'an."
"Guide me into death." The final request of the spirit of Wisdom in Solas' personal quest. Aside from Mythal, this is the character most likely to have known Solas before he was cast down as the Dread Wolf or restored to the Pantheon as Fen'Harel. He greets her as kin -"lethallin"- and she responds in kind, speaking to him as the form in which she knows him best: Falon'Din, friend and guide to those on the other side of the Veil. Solas as F'D hardly needs to be explained. Solas. Fade! Solas. Spirits are Awesome! Solas.

3. "May her ashes be gathered by Falon'Din and carried safely."
Solas approves. ...yes, I know. "He's a compassionate person!" But you don't get his approval from rescuing druffalo, do you.

4. "You really don't let anybody see under that polite mask you wear, do you?"
~ insert appropriately snide and scathing comments about Dirthamen, God of Secrets, and the damned apostate elf whose favorite pastime is not telling anyone, anything, ever. ~

5. "Though you reach out in compassion, I must now insist that you... forget."
This is the only direct clue we have that links him to Dirthamen as well as Falon'Din. The important distinction here is the difference between Solas and Cole's abilities. As a Spirit of Compassion, Cole's domain is pain and hurt, which allows him to see the path that Solas has chosen. But there's not necessarily any hurt or pain involved in taking that away. (Unless you assume that Cole was unduly upset by what he found. Ignore that. Stay with me.) What Solas is doing is different. What's being washed from Cole's mind is knowledge- or more accurately, a secret. As we see at his temple, this is the core of Dirthamen's power and the boon he grants his followers: relieving them of the burden of their secrets.

The secrets are madness in our ears, but they are ours
The Highest One cannot take them from us.
Only Dirthamen, our Keeper, only he
And if he does not take the secrets
they are ours forever.

6. "I do not believe they sing songs about Falon'Din's vanity."
Vanity. Arrogance. Ego. Pride. They are all one and the same. If Solas' sins are Falon'Din's sins, then he has more blood on his hands than any of us would ever have imagined. "The blood of those who would not bow low filled lakes as wide as oceans", until he turned on Mythal. Even then, with the combined force of an allied Pantheon, he only surrendered when his brethren bloodied him in his own temple. This, then, is his great crime- the treason for which he was first stripped of both his standing and form and cast as a monstrous beast into the Abyss. This is how the Dread Wolf began.

7. "But Mythal’s magic sapped Andruil’s strength, and stole her knowledge of how to find the Void."
But how did the Dread Wolf end and Fen'Harel begin? What service could he possibly have offered to the Pantheon to regain his place among them? The answer lies in a threat to the Pantheon greater than any he had ever posed: the blighted madness of Andruil. Mythal needed him. She could subdue Andruil with her magic, but only Dirthamen had the power to wipe Andruil's secret path to the Void from her mind. In exchange for this service, the Dread Wolf rose to the Pantheon once more as Fen'Harel, loyal Hound of Mythal.

8. A picture is worth a thousand words.
Don't tell me you don't see it. You do.

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I know this is insanity, but screw it- I like it, and I'm keeping it. It feels right. Doesn't it?

And not just because it makes Solas #3 on the Pantheon power list, instead of being some random elf punished, then inexplicably raised to Pantheon, then bound to Mythal. It also means that if I'm right about Mythal's orb not just being a focus, but a physical representation of her leash on him and the restriction of his powers...

...we are in for some serious, serious, badassery.


Solas: "Most tales paint Falon'Din's stubbornness second only to his self-regard."
Inquisitor: "I'm surprised they let such a monster live."
Solas: "One does not lightly kill a god, Inquisitor. Even in legend."

ohhh, you sly wolf.


I'm gonna need an hour and a cup of coffee before I can respond with any thought process that would make sense, but I just think I love you and this theory.

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So I'm not convinced by the Dirthamen/Falon'din/Fen'harel theory, as mind-tingling as some of the evidence is. :)

I am convinced that it would make the best fanfiction/spin-off game ever.

Can someone get on that, please?


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So instead of his wolf form having 3 pairs of eyes because it's like a Pride demon, it could be because he's 3 Gods?  Dang that's a crazy and interesting theory.  Might be way out there, but it's a fun thing to think about.



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So I'm not convinced by the Dirthamen/Falon'din/Fen'harel theory, as mind-tingling as some of the evidence is. :)
I am convinced that it would make the best fanfiction/spin-off game ever.
Can someone get on that, please?

I am not entirely convinced either, but it sure is an interesting theory.
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@Nika: I'm excited to see how this plays through. 

 

Top page solas:

 

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Sorry I don't have many pictures. 


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When I said I missed your nut job theories madrar...I may have spoken too soon...


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I think she said something like "My thought was the thought of all dwarves", like she was... I dunno... In all their heads at once? And it happened when she was studying either lyrium or something else Fade-related, I don't remember. I found it really interesting, in a creepy kind of way.

 

When I had that dialogue, I thought they were just making a joke about her being high on lyrium and having a moment of stoner philosophy. But that doesn't mean she may not have been on to something!



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One of the problems I see is that the judged prisoner is a 'follower of Dirthamen' who assumed the form of the divine. The image of a creature with many eyes (The Dread Wolf often being depicted with six) is certainly striking and rings of Solas.

 

What exactly am I supposed to see in the picture? Two wolves representing the double-duty as gods?

I dunno. It's a very interesting sort of madness. :D

 

I think that first part was just supposed to prime us for the idea: the codex example is not actually Solas.  That's just random elf X.  The important take away is this: you cross the Pantheon, you get monster-tossed into the Abyss.

 

The picture is his halves, but in wolfy form. @w@   Reality and fade, dark and light.  Mix them together and you get gray, his favorite color and moral position.  yeahhhh.


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There are 4 wolfs on the mural :P

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I'm going to have to ruminate on this. Deeply. Not sold, but intrigued.

It certainly makes that "Mother?!" line in the dev notes at the post-credits scene a bit more poignant, if true.

 

 Dev notes?  For the stinger?  WHERE.