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#48501
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YEP.  Quick!  Someone make a meme!!!

It's been done on tumblr, found it again!

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http://geekeryshenan...olery-based-off

 

& welcome back Ispan, good to see you ;)


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#48502
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Found this while reading the Dalish page at the Wiki.

 

Alienage heraldry:

 

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And there that symbol beside Fen'Harel is again, although slightly modified.


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#48503
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Has anyone seen this? OMG

 

 

Brilliant.

 

They've even got the weirdly irrelevant character summaries and the stock dating sim backgrounds ahahah.



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Well, I caved.  Hanging up my Trevelyan to make another Levellan. *shakes fist* Curse you, Dread Wolf!

 

Here she is.  Arileth Levellan, my attempt at a "Halla-like" elf.  Irony is, she's a huntress... 

 

(I can't not make blondes... sigh sigh sigh) Edit: At least I've been managing to deviate from the pale green eyes I normally choose for my characters.  It's a start, right? Right? *twitch*

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More below...

 

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#48505
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Has anyone seen this? OMG

 

 

I... can't.... *dies of laughter*


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#48506
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I'm on the Gods-are-gods train. Well... gods are different. There's a crap-ton of talk about blood in DA lore. Everyone important has important magic blood. Alistair has it, Morrigan has it, elves have it, dragons have it, etc. Magic is carried down bloodlines, Qunari have some weird-ass blood thing going on. Blood can be tainted, its power can be used for magic and some blood is better for some magic than other blood. I think beyond being awesome mages, the elven gods have something that makes them more special and sets them apart from all of the other powerful mages that must have existed during that time. Because there definitely seems to be a you-have-it-or-you-don't specialness theme going on in DA.

 

I'm leaning closer to this theory than the "just powerful mages" part.

 

If the DAO Warden asks Alistair if the Archdemon is a dragon, he'll say "I'm not sure if it's a dragon, but it sure looks like one." Later, you learn that there really is the soul of an Old God within it to make it so intelligent, dangerous and powerful. If you talk to DAI Varric about red lyrium, he says "the red stuff is lyrium the way a dragon is a lizard." (I know, we learn it's tainted with the Blight, but bear with me.)

 

It seems there are different tiers of power and magic and souls as well as blood. Archdemons > mere dragons, red lyrium > normal lyrium, dragons > lizards. Whether or not the ancient beings that inspired the "elven god" pantheon were true gods as modern mortals have come to understand it, or extraordinarily powerful beings to garner the reputation, I'd like to think there was some essence, soul, or what-have-you to put them on a higher playing field than mortals.

 

People latch onto Solas speculating that they could have been powerful mages, but he also theorized "spirits, or something else we've never seen." We've seen there are "special" Old God spirits that pack more punch than regular spirits (like the Old God soul from Morrigan's ritual), and there's still the possibility of something greater that we have not yet seen. In Witch Hunt, Morrigan tells the Warden that she had thought Flemeth an abomination, but she's actually something much greater, something we've never seen. In DAI, we learn that this is true; Flemeth has the soul of an ancient elven god, which we had not seen yet. Now Solas speculates the ancient elven gods themselves might be something "we've never seen," so there's a possibility


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#48507
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Has anyone seen this? OMG

Holy ****, I'm crying xD
"Overly vague shiny headed hermit-kun" lmao
But I wanted for Solas to be Senpai, maybe even Sensei!
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Here she is.  Arileth Levellan, my attempt at a "Halla-like" elf.  Irony is, she's a huntress... 

 

(I can't not make blondes... sigh sigh sigh)

 

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She's pretty..I'm sure Solas will enjoy grabbing her butt romancing her.  :D


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Funny that you say that. I feel like you can't keep any secret with those owl statues around. Those owls, man. 

Has anyone else noticed that sometimes the owls are perched on (carrying?) ORBS (like in the creepy basement room of the keep).  I don't know what this means, I just felt it was significant.  But now when I play the game, I'm practically paranoid.  What does this mean??  WHAT ABOUT THIS?  I'm about *thisclose* to setting up one of those crazy walls/rooms where everything is connected by a web of string.


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#48511
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She's pretty..I'm sure Solas will enjoy grabbing her butt romancing her.  :D

 

Hah!  She'll gladly call him her Hahren, IF you catch my drift. *winky winky*


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Has anyone seen this? OMG

 

 

I am so dead right now...



#48513
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Since I just watched Ashe's speculation video, I thought I would post on here what I commented.

Perhaps Mythal was killed by a Forgotten One and in order to prevent mass war between both sets of Gods*which would destroy Thedas, the Veil, The Fade, etc*, Solas locked them all away so everyone and everything could be protected. This would change the whole story around of Fen'Harel and paint him as the anti-hero. The Dalish are wrong about a great many things, and I think this is just one more discrepancy they have construed for a false sense of comfort.

Mythal/Flemeth says that she is sorry to Fen'Harel/Solas before she "dies" or becomes petrified. I first have a few thoughts on her present state of Flemeth/Mythal. I think that she may have simply entered a state where she is asleep for a large length of time, until she regains her energy or is somehow awakened.

That is my weaker theory since I don't have as much evidence to support it, but I thought I would share it. Now, onto my theory on why Mythal was apologizing to Fen'Harel before she "departed. We could take it simply as apologizing for leaving Fen'Harel as the last of his kind in Thedas at the moment, we could take it as her apologizing for all the evil tales that are spun about The Dread Wolf, or we could take it as her apologizing for needed someone bounded to her by The Well of Sorrows. If that third idea is true then it could tie into your idea with the Well's "waters" being made up of special composition, which ties into your Darkspawn theory about being subjects of something like the Well's waters.

Perhaps those who originally drink from the Well are pure, but if they fail in the task given to them by the master they are bound to...maybe they become tainted, maybe they become Darkspawn. So we could take her apology for her needing to reactivating an ancient ritual/magic that was perhaps forever barred from use ever again


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Editted to move up the mosiac for Andruil here for easier comparison.

 

No offense, but I find this theory ridiculous.  (And I'm an artist too, but my medium is precious metal and gemstones.)  A drawn bow is a drawn bow is a drawn bow.  What other shape could it take?

 

End of story.


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I'm leaning closer to this theory than the "just powerful mages" part.

 

If the DAO Warden asks Alistair if the Archdemon is a dragon, he'll say "I'm not sure if it's a dragon, but it sure looks like one." Later, you learn that there really is the soul of an Old God within it to make it so intelligent, dangerous and powerful. If you talk to DAI Varric about red lyrium, he says "the red stuff is lyrium the way a dragon is a lizard." (I know, we learn it's tainted with the Blight, but bear with me.)

 

It seems there are different tiers of power and magic and souls as well as blood. Archdemons > mere dragons, red lyrium > normal lyrium, dragons > lizards. Whether or not the ancient beings that inspired the "elven god" pantheon were true gods as modern mortals have come to understand it, or extraordinarily powerful beings to garner the reputation, I'd like to think there was some essence, soul, or what-have-you to put them on a higher playing field than mortals.

 

People latch onto Solas speculating that they could have been powerful mages, but he also theorized "spirits, or something else we've never seen." We've seen there are "special" Old God spirits that pack more punch than regular spirits (like the Old God soul from Morrigan's ritual), and there's still the possibility of something greater that we have not yet seen. In Witch Hunt, Morrigan tells the Warden that she had thought Flemeth an abomination, but she's actually something much greater, something we've never seen. In DAI, we learn that this is true; Flemeth has the soul of an ancient elven god, which we had not seen yet. Now Solas speculates the ancient elven gods themselves might be something "we've never seen," so there's a possibility

That's a possibility, yes. However, we do not know if the elven gods were born/created/whatever different, or if they somehow gained the power and became more powerful than the others. People suggested they might have been a product of an elf/spirit fusion. So basically, yes, I agree that there was something different about them. But I am not sure if they were different from the start. 



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Can you guys imagine if Lavellan died at the end of DA:I...and that it was right after Solas broke up with her....this video...is just plain amazing.

 



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Since we're sharing Lavellans...

 

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I'm rubbish at roleplaying ,so I just figured she's in her yearly twenties, likes frolicking in the woods, books and whatever was is the Dragon Age version of dry Martini lol


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Has anyone else noticed that sometimes the owls are perched on (carrying?) ORBS (like in the creepy basement room of the keep).  I don't know what this means, I just felt it was significant.  But now when I play the game, I'm practically paranoid.  What does this mean??  WHAT ABOUT THIS?  I'm about *thisclose* to setting up one of those crazy walls/rooms where everything is connected by a web of string.

I don't know but all I know is that these owls are chosen animals for the elven god of secrets and knowledge. I know the god is trapped but I can't help  think he's peering through them like a hidden camera in the eye. I wouldn't care if we replace them with actual eyes of the inquisition!



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While I've subscribed to the idea of the elven gods being "god-kings" since a little while before DA:I, (and I'm not entirely away from that), I think it's a little more complicated than just very powerful mages.  What makes me doubt, is there's a dialogue with Morrigan after the Flemythal meeting in the Fade, and she says she had also believed the elven gods to simply to be god-kings, but after that, she believes there's something more to them.  At this point, I'm leaning towards the idea that they might be a type of being we haven't really seen before.  It's possible they were simply mortal to begin with, but they've become something else, kinda like how spirits like Cole can potentially change themselves.  Perhaps before the veil, everyone could potentially alter reality and themselves, and the elven gods are extreme examples of that.  I think the ancient elves, and the elven gods themselves have a duality, not spirit possession, but more like they're half physical and half spirit.  And just like how some spirits are just little wisps, and some are big pride or faith spirits, you also have that power difference between the ancient elves...


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So I have been thinking about the last last scene with Solas and Mythal from a story-telling perspective, that is, giving information to the player that protagonist does not have. Assuming that we will come into contact again with Solas as the Inquisitor or otherwise, I wonder if it will be done so that the protagonist "finds out on their own" or "puts the pieces together themselves" that Solas is Fen'Harel. If the player didn't already know that Solas is Fen'Harel then they would be like WTF is going on or Solas would have to spell out who he is. But since the player already knows, it makes sense for everyone to play their Inquisitor "suspicious" when it comes to Solas.

On another note, Lady Insanity just posted this video:


Edit: And by "just posted this", I mean it's old news and this thread moves really fast and I am always behind. *Lowers head in defeat".



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So I have been thinking about the last last scene with Solas and Mythal from a story-telling perspective, that is, giving information to the player that protagonist does not have. Assuming that we will come into contact again with Solas as the Inquisitor or otherwise, I wonder if it will be done so that the protagonist "finds out on their own" or "puts the pieces together themselves" that Solas is Fen'Harel. If the player didn't already know that Solas is Fen'Harel then they would be like WTF is going on or Solas would have to spell out who he is. But since the player already knows, it makes sense for everyone to play their Inquisitor "suspicious" when it comes to Solas.
 

 

I think there's enough info for Inquisitor to figure out that the Corypheus got the orb from Solas on their own (at least I think my rift mage Lavellan can figure that much out, just based on the fact that she can successfully do rift magic cos of the orb, and Solas is the only other person who can successfully do it, AND knew a bunch about the orb/was way too sad about it being destroyed). 

 

But I still think it's too much of a leap to get to "he's the dread wolf."

 

It's easy for us to find all the hints, because we know the answer. But when you don't know what you're looking for, I don't think the Inquisitor can take all the random things Solas/Cole said over the course of (at least) a year and put them together to get Fen'Harel. 


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#48522
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GUYS!

 


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Editted to move up the mosiac for Andruil here for easier comparison.

 

No offense, but I find this theory ridiculous.  (And I'm an artist too, but my medium is precious metal and gemstones.)  A drawn bow is a drawn bow is a drawn bow.  What other shape could it take?

 

End of story.

 

 

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Dear god.


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I think there's enough info for Inquisitor to figure out that the Corypheus got the orb from Solas on their own (at least I think my rift mage Lavellan can figure that much out, just based on the fact that she can successfully do rift magic cos of the orb, and Solas is the only other person who can successfully do it, AND knew a bunch about the orb/was way too sad about it being destroyed). 

 

But I still think it's too much of a leap to get to "he's the dread wolf."

 

It's easy for us to find all the hints, because we know the answer. But when you don't know what you're looking for, I don't think the Inquisitor can take all the random things Solas/Cole said over the course of (at least) a year and put them together to get Fen'Harel. 

Yeah.  When Abelas called Solas 'elvhen' and he kept calling me a shem, I knew something was up and then Cole kept talking about old pains.  I had figured - after Mythal - he was like Abelas because Solas said that 'his people still linger'.   Also I magically was able to get Vivienne to like me and she mentions something before you romance him 'Odd about our Solas - so much knowledge but so little personal history."  So I figured he was really different.


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So I have been thinking about the last last scene with Solas and Mythal from a story-telling perspective, that is, giving information to the player that protagonist does not have. Assuming that we will come into contact again with Solas as the Inquisitor or otherwise, I wonder if it will be done so that the protagonist "finds out on their own" or "puts the pieces together themselves" that Solas is Fen'Harel. If the player didn't already know that Solas is Fen'Harel then they would be like WTF is going on or Solas would have to spell out who he is. But since the player already knows, it makes sense for everyone to play their Inquisitor "suspicious" when it comes to Solas.

On another note, Lady Insanity just posted this video:
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So I was thinking at first about a DLC where you do a series of quest to discover Solas' true identity, maybe visit some old temples , the village he was suppose to be from, search for some old texts, talk to a few spirits. It has potential until I was suddenly like...but the player already knows, dang it. Then I drunk some more margaritas in hopes to be inspired once again, and all I could think of was either someone sends assassin's after the Inquisitor , the band goes after them to get some answers and bumps into Solas in the process. Or something that doesn't involve him at all, and he would never meet Lavellan again , and his story will be the center of DA3....s***.
I hate it when I know alot more than the protagonist...

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