Imagine if this happens in every Solas kiss scene. *Solas leans in close with affection and desire in his eyes. Suddenly he pulls back and says "We shouldn't do this." He proceeds to walk away. Scene ends.* I think we would be throwing cakes into Bioware's office.
Might be a bit of gasoline.
All BioWare romances relied on you filling in the blanks with your imagination but it's always pretty hilarious to take them at face value! You and Solas barely had any contact based on purely the scenes we got.
Especially if DAI really was over three years. What a relationship!
Three years? I thought it was just the one?
Three year relationship just makes it even more fucked up.
All BioWare romances relied on you filling in the blanks with your imagination but it's always pretty hilarious to take them at face value! You and Solas barely had any contact based on purely the scenes we got.
Especially if DAI really was over three years. What a relationship!
Yeah, I bring him everywhere and on every mission. I just imagine that we had a lot of interaction during these wanderings.
Three years? I thought it was just the one?
Three year relationship just makes it even more fucked up.
If it's 3 years, I don't see how it's possible that they didn't have sex. Solas must have god-like self-control. Well, I guess he IS god-like. 
If it's 3 years, I don't see how it's possible that they didn't have sex. Solas must have god-like self-control. Well, I guess he IS god-like.
Unless someone has said 3 years. I'm gonna stick with the one year time line. Lol I wish I could remember where I got that, I know it was from lore somewhere.
Preview of my fan art for the 2000 pages (I could not wait)
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Oh wow! Thank you so much for this! (We need more shirtless Solas, hehe) He is gorgeous! 
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Unless someone has said 3 years. I'm gonna stick with the one year time line. Lol I wish I could remember where I got that, I know it was from lore somewhere.
Somebody said one of the devs said three years? I never saw the source for that myself. We were all talking about how it didn't sound right though.
If it's 3 years, I don't see how it's possible that they didn't have sex. Solas must have god-like self-control. Well, I guess he IS god-like.
If they wanted to convey a 3 year timeline, they sure did a poop job of it. One of the few good things about DA2 is that they very clearly defined the time jumps and the timeline. If they wanted to make it seem like 3 years passed between the Inquisitor waking up and the Inquisitor defeating Cory, they probably should have handled it more like DA2. lol
Somebody said one of the devs said three years? I never saw the source for that myself. We were all talking about how it didn't sound right though.
Hm, 3 years seems kinda long.
Hm, 3 years seems kinda long.
At the same time, you just can't construct an Inquisition the way they did and have it get this big in only a few months. Same with renovating Skyhold. And I can just imagine all that travel time all over Thedas!
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And unfortunately, some of that is due in part to the lack of budget/time/zots delegated to Solas' romance. His was the very last put in, and only because they had that extra year to work on the game. It probably would have taken too much time/money to pay all the companion voice actors to voice appropriate lines for Solas/Lavellan romance.
Cullen was a late romance too, but he already has several scenes where they could easily input some flirt/romance dialogue. He doesn't get commented about much either. I think there are only a couple banters where companions acknowledge it.
Yeah... I know. 
I suspected as much even while playing, though it is kind of too bad the only person who seems to really acknowledge it is Sera, who just uses it to mock elves some more. ("Wonder if he shouts 'elven glory' in bed?" "Of course, the elf always takes the elf so the banging bits will mean something." Joke's on you, Sera. What we do (in the Fade) doesn't result in children. Plus, your derision just drove us closer together, so HA!)
Oh well, that's where the player imagination is supposed to fill in the blanks. I guess most affection was shown in private or the Fade for comanions to not have too much to say. =)
Sometimes I can't help but feel that Lavellan was sometimes walking around him as to not spook him from whatever it is they had. I think she understood that whatever they had was barely just beginning but it took a hold of them pretty fast and strong.
I almost see Solas trying to slow down, confused from all the rush of feelings he has for her in such a short time that when he realizes it's distracting him from his plans, he lets go.
I think that if Lavellan wants to be with a "God", that path was never meant to be easy.
I'm being so grim and fatalistic today.
Now that is grim and fatalistic. @w@
Don't worry about getting too philosophical- an ancient war of ideas battling it out for supremacy is the beating heart of DA.Order versus Chaos, Obedience versus Free Will. These conflicts form the foundation of everything, and it's all tied together.That said, I don't agree. The fundamental nature of the world (our world as well as Thedas) is indeterminate. It's built into the very fabric of reality at the most fundamental level in a physics sense, which finds echoes in Thedas in the nature of the Fade and Reality. From a certain perspective, the fade is our physics, writ large. It embodies fundamental principles and gives them a physical, observable nature that allows us to explore them directly.My background is cog sci, not physics, so this is going to miss subtleties others would spot and appreciate, but think about the fade for a moment as the ultimate indeterminate state of being. It is the particle in Schrodinger's box, waiting for an observer to decide its state. Cole actually references this directly in one of his banters with Sera: "In the soft, thin places, spirits push with memories that didn't happen. Or did. Or might. Before the door is open. They could let the cat out, and it would always be alive."This is the core nature of the fade, and the source of sentient beings' power within it. Their presence -their thoughts and feelings- directly shape the world around them in an immediate but impermanent way. "Change" in the fade, to drive home the point, is fundamentally an illusion. It isn't real.The real world of Thedas works differently. It is slower. Heavier. A being can no longer shape the world with idle thought, they must act on that desire. In the real word, thoughts and beliefs must be followed by choice. By action. Or they do nothing. As Cole notes, "here is what can change." And though being forced to shape the world this way is slow and heavy, those changes stick. Even if opposing forces twist or reverse that change, it cannot be erased. The world does not return to its original state- a quick glance at history will tell you that. Every action -every choice made- has echoes that persist.The Andrastean Chant is right in this: if there is a Maker, free will is his greatest gift. Choice grants power to all - not just mages - to change the world around them. That is why it is such a sacred, fundamental concept for Solas, and is the antithesis of what the Sun/Elgar'nan desires.I...yikes. I need to stop before I start off on a tangent about Order and Chaos, free will, and how that balance relates to the Song- the gradient from single melody through complex harmonies to dissonance.Anyway! Like I said, don't ever stop yourself from jumping into the philosophy. The game itself is prompting you to examine these things at every turn. Bioware wants us to think.
I don't mean to be grim and fatalistic, but simply accepting (unless the former gets Solas into bed, then I'm all for it). Actually, I don't believe in fate at all; nothing is inevitable in the sense that certain, specific events are foreordained. And I understand the juxtaposition that the Bioware writers are trying to set up. However, it seems to me that things--whether universes or viruses--are by their very nature cyclical; that is why in physics there can be no such thing as a perpetual motion machine; that is why no empire can last forever. And that is why this thread can never indefinitely maintain a solely pessimistic or optimistic outlook. Solas did not need to be Arlathan's betrayer; there could have been another Betrayer, or many, or none at all--the outcome would have been the same. One person's actions have a limited ability to alter the course of history, simply because so much is going on. That doesn't mean we should relinquish the idea of self-determination, but we should be realistic about the power of our intentions to shape an outcome. My feeling is that Solas fails to grasp this idea, and has an over-inflated sense of his own importance in world events.
(OT: I do consider that my analysis of characters/events in Thedas is limited by the fact that I necessarily relate to them via an idea set informed by this world, even though in DA one is forced accept dualism as a given. Whereas the rejection of dualism forms the core of my belief system IRL. What I mean is, if I have to start with the assumption that dualism exists, then the nature of the question of choice and free will is fundamentally changed. Still, I think that it's valid to posit that in both universes the impact of intention/individual action is restricted.
PS. This was fun, though! Thank you for the thoughtful reply. 
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From Random Enocounterz, b/c misery loves company (?):
http://random-encoun...-solas-romance/
ETA: Ach, someone already posted this. Sorry @ willthiswork!! I'll just add that the DA:I review the comic links to is worth a look.
It looks like a tooth is embedded in that fur. His sense of style is so strange.
And it's right over his crotch.
Seriously.
I'm having Sebastian flashbacks of Andraste belt buckle on his crotch.
Oh, God, make it stahp.
Finally got up with this thread again.. moving so fast =) All this art makes me so jealous, wish i could do something like that..but no.. =) It`s funny how quickly everybody goes from optimistic to pessimistic and back again. Trying to be Team optimistic here, i really cant go through something similar like mass effect 3. To me that game was mordin noooooo, thane nooooooo(i didn`t even romance thane), legion nooooooooooooooooo, and finally shepard NOOOOOOOOOO.. So please don`t make me go solas noooooooo.. I`m afraid that last words solas will say will be: "it had to be me, someone else might have gotten it wrong..NOOOOOOO(and sorry for bad english, can we all speak finnish? yeah, i didn`t think so, well i tried =) )
Viv comments on it! She says something like "Is it just me or have.. certain lingering looks passed between you and our Solas?"
AHA lingering looks. The best sorts of looks.
Definitely ALL of this. I think it's an intriguing idea, I love the research that went into it, but it's just a hit too much. It's why once it was revealed via Dev Notes that Flemeth only gave Solas/Fen'Harel her power not her godhood I felt instantaneously relieved. If late 90's era Marvel Comics about Rogue taught us anything, having several powerful multiple personalities hanging out in one person is bad news. And bad storytelling - it makes things too complex to comprehend for the reader and through that lack of understanding dehumanizes them and their motivations.
But they threw in time travel... so maybe they haven't learned enough?Time travel is sticky in narratives and never explained/ resolved in a way that is truly satisfying. It's like clones in the 90s and Spider Man. That was just one huge hot mess. Secret to success? Avoid clones and time travel... unless you're Chrono Trigger.
EDIT: I suppose that makes Solas our Magus equivalent? Oh no. No no no that so doesn't end out well for him. I mean, it kind of does. But ughhh no. Stop the sad. I shouldn't have made that connection!!
As much as love complex theories - I am 100% with you. Not a fan of "shoving the story/lore up its own butt because it's deep?"(I'm giving the side-eye to you Bioshock). I like when people who should know better screw up. I like doubt. I like when people are corrupted by power. I like redemption. I like the game's discussion of faith and how it can be manipulated. Makes the story fun.
I hope Solas is nothing but a super mage or some Abelas+ because at the end, you can actually talk to him. He's still a person and it makes sense that he would have person-like emotions and you can actually convince him what he may be doing is wrong. When you make him some a super-god imbued with the soul of 3 different gods it becomes less logical that he would actually be more "human". There would be no saving him. He would/should have no care for 'mortal' concerns.
As much as people love Flemeth, it was getting kind of ridiculous that she kept popping up - oh you need an easy out for the story? here comes dragon Flemeth to save the stranded plot threads! Kind of glad they killed her off. I hope beyond hope Solas is not someone who has hands in every proverbial cookie jar in Thedas' history because it would make his character the lesser. He is interesting not because he's a "god". Not because he's powerful. He's interesting because he conflicted and because he cares deeply for an actual cause to the point that he is willing to sacrifice his own happiness and spend an eternity alone to achieve it. He could have been an actual misguided hobo apostate a l Anders and my enjoyment of the character would not really have changed. There are a reason there are dozens of posts here "OMG I QUIT MY CULLEN GAME BECUZ SOLAS"(mine being one of them). Most probably didn't spoil the game for themselves, so why the need to make him more than just Solas. He's interesting as he is.
Finally got up with this thread again.. moving so fast =) All this art makes me so jealous, wish i could do something like that..but no.. =) It`s funny how quickly everybody goes from optimistic to pessimistic and back again. Trying to be Team optimistic here, i really cant go through something similar like mass effect 3. To me that game was mordin noooooo, thane nooooooo(i didn`t even romance thane), legion nooooooooooooooooo, and finally shepard NOOOOOOOOOO.. So please don`t make me go solas noooooooo.. I`m afraid that last words solas will say will be: "it had to be me, someone else might have gotten it wrong..NOOOOOOO(and sorry for bad english, can we all speak finnish? yeah, i didn`t think so, well i tried =) )
Yeah, honestly, I have no interest in Mass Effect 4. The universe is done for me. Well, I will probably buy the game eventually, but I won't be all hyped up over it.
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Viv comments on it! She says something like "Is it just me or have.. certain lingering looks passed between you and our Solas?"
Oooh, cool! I never take Vivienne with me everywhere (every word and decision from my Inquisitor earned her disapproval), so I didn't get that. I'm keeping it in mind. 
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