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[Adynata]

 

Trying to be Team optimistic here, i really cant go through something similar like mass effect 3. To me that game was mordin noooooo, thane nooooooo(i didn`t even romance thane), legion nooooooooooooooooo, and finally shepard NOOOOOOOOOO.. So please don`t make me go solas noooooooo.. I`m afraid that last words solas will say will be: "it had to be me, someone else might have gotten it wrong..

 

UG me too. I'm so over that crap. ME3's ending was so terribly depressing and unrewarding that I couldn't bring myself to pick it up for a second playthru. I uninstalled it as soon as it ended. I want to be team optimism, but all my Bioware romances end in tragedy. We can't seem to shake Morrigan and Leliana even if we tried to kill them, but Alistair, Anders, Fenris, they all stay dead...

[TanisLave]

even if they were lovers

 

kinda hard to hit that when you occupy the same body now

[Avejajed]

I think what madrar is saying is that The Husband/Wife/Lover are the more modern terms used in an allegorical metaphor for predating ideas which mortals may have difficulty understanding. The husband being an ancient, established belief and societal system, Solas being the new, rebellious flavour and Mythal choosing to defect from one to the other. So we can choose to see their relationships as literal, or not.

Am I right?

It also adds far more weight to Solas' "The Lover" tarot card. I love it.

Oh for sure! And it might even be literal. I just choose to put my fingers in my ears and go lalallalala like a three year old. Lol.

[_Lucinia]

I get you. When you feel so passionate about a character, it can be hard not to argue, but we must try. *argues with them in my head*

Yeah.  I read the other person's opinion.  

 

 

 

Why does it suck?  Well for starters, there is no sexual encounter.  While I could theoretically enjoy a romance story without a sexual component, it would have to be very well done in other areas in order to make up for it.  Lets face it, we are sexual creatures and sex is entertaining.  I’ve read many forums discussing Solas, and lots of people say ‘I don’t need a sexual component for Solas, just a little bit more content!’  I think this is horse ****.  I want to see Solas ass. 

It's one thing to say you don't like something, it's another to say it "sucks".  That's what ruffles my feathers.  If I don't like something as much as someone else, I chalk it up to not being for me.  I find saying "this is horseshit" is dismissive of other's peoples opinions, likes, etc.  It's also dismissive of the fact that the writer for Solas left it ambiguous on purpose, to allow the players to decide for themselves if it happened.  We all know why, but that was an important thing.

I enjoy reading differing viewpoints.  I find other perspectives help me grow as a person.  I am a stubborn person, I can admit that.  But I appreciate what seeing the other side of something, does to my own perspective on things.  Bums me out when an argument for or against something boils down to "it sucks!".  It's taken me years of growing up as an adult to be respectful, and not dismissive, of someone else's opinion.  I'm not so arrogant to think that my opinion of something is so correct that anyone who sees it differently is horse ****.  I like discussing opposing viewpoints with people (when it stays civil) but I find that an impossible feat in this case.

Sorry putting waaaay too much time and thought into this.  I know a lot of people might not care for Solas' romance.  And yeah I wish there was more content there too.  I just don't like dismissing the entire thing as sucky.  Patrick Weekes put a lot into writing this character.  Ah well, us who were the intended audience for it, appreciate it, and that's all that matters.  

 

Ok me done.

[madrar]

As much as love complex theories - I am 100% with you. Not a fan of "shoving the story/lore up its own butt because it's deep?"(I'm giving the side-eye to you Bioshock). I like when people who should know better screw up. I like doubt. I like when people are corrupted by power.  I like redemption. I like the game's discussion of faith and how it can be manipulated.  Makes the story fun. 

 

I hope Solas is nothing but a super mage or some Abelas+ because at the end, you can actually talk to him.  He's still a person and it makes sense that he would have person-like emotions and you can actually convince him what he may be doing is wrong.  When you make him some a super-god imbued with the soul of 3 different gods it becomes less logical that he would actually be more "human".  There would be no saving him.  He would/should have no care for 'mortal' concerns.  

 

 

 

Er.  No.  No, no- he's not "three gods".  At least, not in the way you're conceiving it.  He is, and has always been, Solas.  Stubborn.  Probing.  Idealistic.  Great fade-kisser.  Same guy, all through the ages, right up until the present.

 

It was only his representation in the Panthon that changed.  The "Gods" of the elvish Pantheon were like masks for the actual, real mage-rulers that used them.  They were a face to present to the rest of Elvhen society: at first to their subjects, then later to their slaves and worshipers as initial deference to the Pantheon's political authority warped over the ages into demands for absolute obedience and worship. 

 

Saying Solas is Fen'Harel, the Dread Wolf, and Falon'Din/Dirthmen does not make Solas greater than he is.  It doesn't give him magical "god" powers.  It simply tracks his history through the ages in terms of the Pantheon and his place in it via myths, the only scraps of twisted history that have survived.  

 

Make sense?

[OxidantsHappen]

So I finished the Lavellan-thing I was working on. It's not great.. But I had two choices: Replay the Solas romance or do something productive with my life! I chose neither and ended up making this abomination.

 

If the coloring looks weird it's because I'm legitimately colorblind for reds and greens. So i'll just leave this here and go back to reading all your theory-stuffs.

 

Spoiler

 

 

EDIT: So my friend just told me that the black stuff on her face looks like a bruise. That is most definitely NOT the intention, it's supposed to be mascara stains NOT an injury of any sort. Oh gosh I hope my lack of artistic talent didn't offend anyone.

[madrar]

even if they were lovers

 

kinda hard to hit that when you occupy the same body now

 

...or really, really easy.

 

@w@

 

*joins Ave in plugging her ears and singing loudly*

[RynJ]

Mythal and Solas being former lovers actually doesn't bother me at all. I don't think it's the case but hey, they both seemed to eventually be the odd ones out in the pantheon. That brings people together.

[chibielf]

Has this been shared on here yet?
 
http://thedosianimpo...e-you-know-that
 
It's a compilation of Solas' grunts.....my mother walked in partway through.....it was an awkward time.

I. Can't. Breath.
Lol, I love this fandom.

[TanisLave]

...or really, really easy.

 

@w@

 

*joins Ave in plugging her ears and singing loudly*

 

what I think your implying and what your actually implying are probably two different things. 

[AryBoBary]

I'm... I'm feeling feels you guys.  I'm impressed by the level-headed, rational, compassionate, NOT MEAN, support in this group... There's only one proper way to approach this...

 

[BoscoBread]

Sorry putting waaaay too much time and thought into this.  I know a lot of people might not care for Solas' romance.  And yeah I wish there was more content there too.  I just don't like dismissing the entire thing as sucky.  Patrick Weekes put a lot into writing this character.  Ah well, us who were the intended audience for it, appreciate it, and that's all that matters.  

That's the key.  It's not like 'Who is this rando?'  He has a ton of content and writing - take him on most major missions and he's got a lot to say.  He's a major character and has something to say about everyone. I agree, I wish there was more to the romance and I am deeply surprised it wasn't a major one early on because they could have done so much with it.  But I'm cheered that the community responded to his character so well - even as a friend people like the guy.   We'll see where the games go. I'm hopeful for closure - even if it's bad(I'm one of the freaks that really kind of liked ME3 - it was tragic but in this weird satisfying way that I have no interest in ever visiting those characters again in future installments). 

[kalasaurus]

So, this was shared in the Cullen thread, and I thought I should share it here too.

 

[madrar]

I think you may be there awhile. Do you want us to feed and water you?

 

*gasps weakly*

 

...no need... will just pull from the fade... 

 

*crawls toward her computer to start up DAI*

[madrar]

what I think your implying and what your actually implying are probably two different things. 

 

ohhh, I think you know what I'm implying.

 

*snickers like she's 12*

[Innsmouth Dweller]

From Random Enocounterz, b/c misery loves company (?):

 

http://random-encoun...-solas-romance/

 

ETA: Ach, someone already posted this.  Sorry @ willthiswork!!  I'll just add that the DA:I review the comic links to is worth a look.  

huh... well, i don't care for such content. it's fine as it is, ancient elves were really slow, right? and the 'teaching stuff about elves and fade'? just pick him, problem solved, the guy cannot shut up while exploring new places :3

tbh, this is why my 1st PC was interested in him - a unique perspective on eveything i've learned in previous games (lore sucker here), not some awkward kissing scenes with silly dialogue options, rawr. Solas was (is?) a walking codex, even when i had no idea about... the ending which made things he said even more interesting!

sure, i'd be happy to have some additional Solas content, but i'm not convinced there is a reason to create it, at least not to satisfy Lavellan's need for closure. well... unless he becomes next villain

[TanisLave]

 

via : http://lutecian.tumb...st/106577282056

 

 

ohhh, I think you know what I'm implying.

 

*snickers like she's 12*

 

 

[BoscoBread]

Er.  No.  No, no- he's not "three gods".  At least, not in the way you're conceiving it.  He is, and has always been, Solas.  Stubborn.  Probing.  Idealistic.  Great fade-kisser.  Same guy, all through the ages, right up until the present.

 

It was only his representation in the Panthon that changed.  The "Gods" of the elvish Pantheon were like masks for the actual, real mage-rulers that used them.  They were a face to present to the rest of Elvhen society: at first to their subjects, then later to their slaves and worshipers as initial deference to the Pantheon's political authority warped over the ages into demands for absolute obedience and worship. 

 

Saying Solas is Fen'Harel, the Dread Wolf, and Falon'Din/Dirthmen does not make Solas greater than he is.  It doesn't given him magical "god" powers.  It simply tracks his history through the ages in terms of the Pantheon and his place in it via myths, the only scraps of twisted history that have survived.  

 

Make sense?

I know    I got what you were saying.  Trust me. I'm a pretty smart cookie.  I should have edited my post - I wasn't really responding to you specifically. More the universal theory that Solas is EVERYTHING and the reason for EVERYTHING. So it was more a general comment on complex theories.  I apologize if I came off rude to you, I was responding emphatically to the other person. 

[Mims]

To be honest, I played through some of the other romances. They don't really have that much extra content. Solas mostly lacks a romance quest. Which would have been nice, but I don't feel too bothered by it. 

[dangereusegirl]

So I just did 'What Pride has Wrought,' and for the first time I had my Lavellan choose to drink from the Well. I had to catch myself, because when the screen went black all I could hear was Solas calling her T_T

 

Ugh, this next bit is going to be especially heartbreaking, because I headcanon that my girl has a bit of a breakdown when she meets Mythal, and the reality that she's now bound to this woman finally hits her. And, timeline-wise, the break up occurs right after.

 

Why did I sign up for this again?

[Tielis]

Interesting to note, the companions don't know either.

 

Ask Sera what she thinks about Solas after you two have gotten involved, and she says, "I've seen the way you look at him. I wonder if he shouts 'elven glory' in bed?" Note that she says she notices the way you look at him; not the way he looks at you, the way you look at each other, the way you act around each other, etc. It's implied the Lavellan is more open about her affection than Solas, but even then it's just fleeting glances and not more solid words or actions.

 

Also, after he leaves and Leliana says they haven't found him and probably won't, if you give the "teary-eyed" response, she just says, "I'm sorry. I know you two were close." Like Lavellan, even sharp-eyed characters like Leliana can't come up with a better word to describe what their relationship was. (Note: "I know you two are close" is also how Giselle describes the Inquisitor's friendship with Dorian, even if she's female and thus they can't be romantically involved.)

 

When even companions and advisers don't have a more definitive definition, you know it was... a bit wispy.

 

Yes, and I hope that this was done purposely so that if we are presented with a different LI in the future, it won't be such a stretch to say that Lavellan got over Solas.

[HurricaneGinger]

So I just did 'What Pride has Wrought,' and for the first time I had my Lavellan choose to drink from the Well. I had to catch myself, because when the screen went black all I could hear was Solas calling her T_T

 

Ugh, this next bit is going to be especially heartbreaking, because I headcanon that my girl has a bit of a breakdown when she meets Mythal, and the reality that she's now bound to this woman finally hits her. And, timeline-wise, the break up occurs right after.

 

Why did I sign up for this again?

 

'CAUSE SOMETIMES LOVE DON'T FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD

YOU MAKE IT

HURT SO GOOD

 

...i'll show myself out

[Sable Rhapsody]

Why did I sign up for this again?

 

Because it hurts so good, and the writers need our tears.

 

EDIT:  'd

[dangereusegirl]

'CAUSE SOMETIMES LOVE DON'T FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD

YOU MAKE IT

HURT SO GOOD

 

...i'll show myself out

 

XD Okay, now I don't feel as bad as I did before. Thank you