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Solas Thread - NOW OFFICIALLY MOVED to Cyonan's BSN (link in OP)
#49801
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 09:46
#49802
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 09:51
THIS SHOULD BE STICKIED SOMEWHERE. Thank you a billion times, thank you!
The rather shabby migration page will be finished as soon as I get to the Qunari Invasion and convert it to FA. ![]()
EDIT: For all those on other threads saying that the Inquisition should follow their forebears and hang up their swords, bear in mind that there is a gap of a 119 years or so between the Inquisition forming and the Nevarran Accord. We've got time for more DLC. ![]()
As for the pantheon's betrayer. I feel like an alliance of Elgar'nan and Falon'din is a likely bet, with Dirthamen doing shady things, Ghilan'nain off cross-breeding halla and dragon to create Qunari or some silliness, and Andruil pestering everyone about that whole five hundred year gap in her memory.
- Sugao aime ceci
#49803
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 09:54
Definitely a possibility as well. I could also see the Pantheon fracturing into groups who agree about how things SHOULD be - parts of me wonder if the main disagreement was over slavery OR some form of mind-control/ loss of free will (this could include something similar to the Blight or Red Lyrium which, while similar in that they are both tainted, are still distinct). We have no way of knowing at this time with the lore/ codex entries we currently have. BUT it was likely over a power struggle. A group of them likely saw one way to use or enhance their power, another group was revolted at that misuse of it. Differing points of view become a debate, fueling passion and competition, until they are left with nothing but anger and the desire to PROVE their point that leads to murder and betrayal.
Elgar'nan, given that he murdered his own mythological father, The Sun, could easily have turned against Mythal as well. Familial ties mean little to him. Power and 'being right' means everything.
Indeed. He seems to be the only one in the pantheon capable, as the rest are either their children (which could make their powers weaker than the parents) or don't have the type of temperament to betray one of their own. I definitely can see disagreements happening amongst them. Heck, two of them did fight until Fen'Harel broke it up (forgot the exact names of who, forgive me). The way I see it, Mythal was the peacekeeper to their constant bickering and general mistreatment of The People, which would explain why she and Fen'Harel got along and were so close. Probably closer than to him than she should have been to Elgar'nan?
#49804
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 09:56
Does anyone have the Wonders of Thedas book on hand?
The wiki only gives me dates on Ferelden tribes and the Neromenians. For Ciriane, Ingirsh, and Planasene, I just get where they ended up.
This is sort of old but I didn't see any dates associated with the Ciriane, Inghrish, or Planasene.
#49805
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 09:58
This is sort of old but I didn't see any dates associated with the Ciriane, Inghrish, or Planasene.
Damn. Thanks for looking. ![]()
#49806
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:05
The reason I was asking about when Corypheus got the orb is because I had a WEIRD idea that Fen'Harel gave the Orb to Corypheus PRIOR to the birth of Andraste and gave it to the Priest of Dumat/ Mythal because he thought they were on the same side. **** goes super down, Corypheus and the Magisters break through the Veil, First Blight. Mythal->Dumat->Andraste. Shartan (if he's Solas) joins up and the real reason they go against Tevinter is to get the Orb back.
But given that this is likely not true due to the very good references we have so far of Corypheus not having the orb until much, much later out of the Warden Prison, it's irrelevant.
EDIT:
This COULD still be a possibility if Corypheus HID the orb prior to being taken into the Warden Fortress and came back for it. Fen'Harel just would have had to have TWO uthenera periods. One after the sealing of the Elven Pantheon/ Forbidden Ones until the Magisters, another post-Andraste.
Mm there is that design note that says that Solas slept for a thousand years, which was roughly around the time of Andraste. The time of Arlathan was way before that , so if he actually is an ancient elf then it's likely he went through two sleeping periods like you say. The start of the First Blight was more than a thousand years ago however.
#49807
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:06
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- Caddius aime ceci
#49808
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:06
Migration of human tribes, along with the Qunari invasion. All dates in FA.
- Tielis, neonmoth et Sister Squish aiment ceci
#49809
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:08
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#49810
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:09
Another person gutted by that sneaky sneaky Tamlen reappearance. Of my DAO YouTube videos, that one got the most views except the ones that involved nekkid Alistair, and the most shocked comments from people who had never seen it. Mahariel definitely made a convincing Warden, also because she already had the taint.To any other Warden that midnight attack was just an annoyance, a sign that they needed to hurry and save Ferelden. To Dalish Warden, it was a stark reminder of the one she failed to save. More than that, it was a glimpse of the fate promised to her by the Calling, seen in the ghastly visage of a dear friend. Deep, ya'll.
I'm happy that I wrote a fanfic story comparing Mahariel to Fen'Harel because you end up being a lonely figure between two worlds, mistrusted by everyone, even though you're saving them. I guess I thought the statues of the wolf god facing away from the Dalish camps were sad. He's there but not accepted. The Dalish invoking him all these years while reviling him... argh, that's just...Random thought: I never in my Dragon Age-loving life would have ever expected that Fen'Harel, the Dread Wolf, would turn out to be some woobie, charming, bald elf Fade nerd who would break your heart (if you romanced him that is). I'm just thinking back to when I first played DA:O and DA2 and the image I had of Fen'Harel was so different (evil trickster wolf god deity thing). It's just funny how things turned out looking back.
Do you suppose he heard all those curses somehow? He must have, reflected in the Fade. Can you imagine being the kind of person Solas is, to know that you gave up everything to help people, and your name has become a curse word among the very people you tried to save? No wonder it's hard for him to claim that name in front of the woman he loves.
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#49811
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:10
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#49812
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:13
Interesting! So the Qunari and the Humans DO come from the same direction!!
Humans are generally thought of as the native inhabitants of Par Vollen. Along with the fex. It's unclear when they built the pyramids. It's possible they arrived by boat.
The Qunari arrived by boat and annexed Par Vollen and managed to take over most of Seheron before the Tevinter Imperium noticed. Qunari rogues are well justified.
EDIT: My favorite thing about going through the entire timeline is how many times you see 'Force X laid siege to Minrathous and gave up after Y years.'
Even the timeline seems disgusted.
- Sister Squish aime ceci
#49813
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:15
About Elgar'nan betraying Flementh, that's what I've always thought. My reasons, though, are weak, as usual: it's only that husband betraying their wives seems to be recurrent in DA history and I don't believe in coincidences
or at least, I believe writters shouldn't rely too much on them
Also, it'd explain why Mythal would sympathize with Flemeth so much.
But, as I still want to think that Falon'Din it's going to be the bad guy, I'm inclined to think that he was the responsible for Elgar'nan decision of turning against Mythal. Maybe he was resentful after Mythal rallied the other gods against him, and tricked Elgar'nan into thinking she was going to do the same thing to him eventually? something of the sort... Of course, nothing at all to support this theory either
#49814
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:20
Whoa
> Once upon a time there was a land of elves, ruled by Elgar'nan
> Mythal, queen of the humans, arrives onto this land's shores, forever becoming associated with the sea she crossed to get there
> Elgar'nan and Mythal marry, uniting the two peoples
> The secrets of magic are shared among kings and queens, including immortality - which involves transferring a soul to a new body
> Ghilan'nain in particular becomes obsessed with trying to perfect the ideal host
> Somewhere down the line, one of Ghilan'nain's experiments either go terribly wrong... or she intentionally unleashes it upon the rest of the world.
> Cue years of civil war
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#49815
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:20
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#49816
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:22
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#49817
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:24
What's interesting here though is that his statue is ALSO in the Temple of Dirthamen, not just Mythal's.
Maybe he was a protector of the pantheon as a whole. Not just Mythal.
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#49818
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:24
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#49819
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:28
Maybe he was the protector of the pantheon as a whole. Not just Mythal.
And adding to that, maybe even the peacekeeper between the Creators and the Forgotten Ones?
Mythal judges the mortals and settles disputes, Fen'harel settles disputes between the gods as amicably as possible?
Also:
Ancient and Divine Ages.
- flabbadence aime ceci
#49820
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:32
Perhaps he was a protector of the pantheon in general, when he locked them up, to maybe protect them (from themselves) he was just doing his job?
Edit: Still got
'd, I give up lol.
- scintilla, Sugao et Ser_Lurk aiment ceci
#49821
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:36
Perhaps he was a protector of the pantheon in general, when he locked them up, to maybe protect them (from themselves) he was just doing his job?
Edit: Still got
'd, I give up lol.
All in a good day's work. *pats self*
#49822
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:39
Hey Ajna! Feeling better today?
Making this relevant with Solas's "oh that's not good" face:

#49823
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:39
All in a good day's work. *pats self*
Job done, I can have a nap now.
The protector who is cast out by the people and twisted into something horrifying is incredibly sad
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- Ser_Lurk, Rabbitonfire et Caddius aiment ceci
#49824
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:41
Hey Ajna! Feeling better today?
Making this relevant with Solas's "oh that's not good" face:
Solas with hair?
What blasphemy is this?!
BURN THE HERETIC!
- Sugao aime ceci
#49825
Posté 08 janvier 2015 - 10:41
Hey Ajna! Feeling better today?
Making this relevant with Solas's "oh that's not good" face:
Ooooh my god. That shadow made it look like he had hair for a second. Horribly receding hair.
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