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[Sashimi_taco]

That grunt compilation made me think of.... things. Naughty things...    

 

*phew*

 

 

 

Link grunts pls.

[Prince of Keys]

Where? ....ahem.... *blinks*

 

 

Link grunts pls.

 

Here.

[Mims]

That would be interesting.  My thought is that he is an elf.  Like the gods of Greece - he's most well known by the animal that he's associated with(like the halla lady goddess) and in art is depicted as such(so like Athena and the owl).  Likely he can probably shapeshift(like Morrigan) into a wolf.   He picks the name pride because he values wisdom and wisdom and pride are two sides of the same coin.  Wisdom can be twisted into pride/arrogance(see his quest) and he feels that it was his pride that caused the elve's downfall.  It's a reminder of his failures.   

 

 Also he can't very well be running around with his actual name. 

 

 

It could also be meant to imply that the artisans/slaves who crafted the temple had little interaction with him. We've speculated that Solas probably did not have slaves, or if he did, it was a very small number.

 

He doesn't seem like a god that made himself overly known among the people. (Or if you subscribe to the theory that Fen'Harel was originally something of a villain, then they did not want to know him.) By depicting him as the wolf rather than an elf, they "de-humanize" him to a safe level.

 

Either out of respect ['we don't know who this guy really is or if he'll take retribution for a poor depiction'], or because they had reason to fear him. 

 

From an OOC perspective, depicting him as a wolf also is a visual clue to the audience that he was not like the other gods. 

[Janic99]

a friend of mine thinks that I look a lot like my Lavellan but I disagree with her XD

[TanisLave]

The grunt compilation just makes me laugh so hard. 

[wildannie]

Congrats on reaching 2000 pages, so much awesome everything!  I'll hopefully manage to get something vaguely artistic for 3000... maybe

[DragonRacer]

It could also be meant to imply that the artisans/slaves who crafted the temple had little interaction with him. We've speculated that Solas probably did not have slaves, or if he did, it was a very small number.

 

He doesn't seem like a god that made himself overly known among the people. (Or if you subscribe to the theory that Fen'Harel was originally something of a villain, then they did not want to know him.) By depicting him as the wolf rather than an elf, they "de-humanize" him to a safe level.

 

Either out of respect ['we don't know who this guy really is or if he'll take retribution for a poor depiction'], or because they had reason to fear him. 

 

From an OOC perspective, depicting him as a wolf also is a visual clue to the audience that he was not like the other gods. 

 

I can't remember, is Gil depicted as an elf or a halla?

 

If a halla... and we know she wasn't one of the "original" Pantheon but, instead, was raised up... then perhaps that means Fen'Harel was similar in that respect?

[Fialka]

So, just out of curiosity - do we know for sure if proximity to humans is what caused elven blood to 'quicken'?

 

Other than, of course, Dalish belief - which we know, due to being a result of a long game of 'telephone' (with a healthy dose of understandable bias thrown in), isn't exactly reliable as truth. I guess what I'm asking is, is there anything else to back it up? I know Solas (who I trust more as a source of information since he was presumably there) confirms that the ancient elves were, in fact, immortal, as does Felassan in TME (who is very likely an ancient elf as well) but I don't remember him confirming humans were the cause. I just re-read the Masked Empire and Felassan doesn't - he just says something about the mess humans leave behind or some such.

 

Just wondering if I missed something... Otherwise, I wonder if the 'quickening' wasn't a result of something else, with humans just acting as a convenient scapegoat.

[legbamel]

Human/elf (mages): You reach across, mindful, meaning. You pull it through to this side, make it real here.
Elf (non-mages): Pulled, blood that is not blood, a tiny trace of time. Lips struggling to shape language your parents lived.
Dwarf: The stone, still there, silent and reaching up for the blood that walks. No dreams with the cord cut. You sell it.
Qunari: Old blood, deeper, passion pounding pulsing, unchecked. Raw rage, but only an option.
 
Edit: looks like it depends on PC's class, after all. At least for elves. Dunno about humans.
Edit2: or not. I give up. XD

I got the one labeled for Qunari on my two-handed human warrior, if that helps. Maybe it's both race and class variables.

[Rabbitonfire]

I can't remember, is Gil depicted as an elf or a halla?

 

If a halla... and we know she wasn't one of the "original" Pantheon but, instead, was raised up... then perhaps that means Fen'Harel was similar in that respect?

Elf riding a halla. Still, based on the story, it sounds like she was risen up. 

[DragonRacer]

Here.

 

*insert George Takei "Oh, My" here*

[dragondreamer]

I can't remember, is Gil depicted as an elf or a halla?

 

If a halla... and we know she wasn't one of the "original" Pantheon but, instead, was raised up... then perhaps that means Fen'Harel was similar in that respect?

 

I don't know about depiction, but at least in the original Dalish stories, she was literally transformed into a halla.  She was the first halla, hence the "halla-mother".  In the revised version, she creates the halla, but there's nothing about her literally being a halla.

 

The interesting thing about Fen'Harel that sets him apart in the stories is that he's considered to belong to both pantheons, Creators and Forgotten Ones.  So there's always a sense of him being a bit set aside from all the other elven gods.  He belongs, but he's also different.  Depicting him as a wolf probably adds to that.  Lone wolf, and all.

[Roxy]

Wheeeeee, page 2000 celebrations! GO US!

I'm not good at the art stuff, so I figured I would put my credit-card swiping skills to good use instead and request a few words of comfort from Gareth David-Lloyd for us heart-broken Solavellans. And here's his message to us, just in time for page 2000:

 

 

*squeeeels*

 

I was giggling like a school girl lol! I kept saying OH MY GOD over and over..

 

Thank you TwoWardens. 

 

 

Also Sorry I'm late but Happy page 2000! 

[Eivuwan]

a friend of mine thinks that I look a lot like my Lavellan but I disagree with her XD

 

i thought you were going for the Daenerys Targaryen look.

[BoscoBread]

I can't remember, is Gil depicted as an elf or a halla?

 

If a halla... and we know she wasn't one of the "original" Pantheon but, instead, was raised up... then perhaps that means Fen'Harel was similar in that respect?

Halla.  Possibly, it's an interesting thought.  We won't know for some time, I'm sure.  I like Mims' thought - that depicting him as a wolf it's to represent that he stands outside of the full pantheon which seems to fit with what we find out about Fen'harel.  On a more pragmatic front - if they had Solas depicted as Fen'Harel in those mosaics it makes even less sense that the Inquisitor is not questinioning who he is.  If you bring him to the ToM - the hints become SO heavy handed.   Hell, when Abeles was all "ELVHEN SUCH AS YOU".  I was like 'uh...explain yourself Solas(also Abelas you're coming home with me. k. thx.)???'

[Willow_Elessidil]

The grunt compilation just makes me laugh so hard. 

 

Oh my, it's like angry sexytime or something....

[DraconisWolf]

Abelas was giant? I recall him being tall but not unusually so.

Cutscene magic ofcourse!

You know those elven archers that point their arrows at your party? They all look the same hight , and they seem really tall in regards of average elven hight. But when the cutscene ends I ran to them so I can check them out up close. They were totally not same. One was a little tiny thing , and one was as huge as that awesome Avvar you can get as an agent. I was like DUUUUDE, you are huge! 

 

I can't say if Abelas is taller since we don't get to interact with him outside of cutscenes.

[Janic99]

i thought you were going for the Daenerys Targaryen look.

Haha not really I don't watch game of thrones but anyways I did not mean to make her look like me.. only things I wanted to be similar were that she is blonde with blue eyes but I wanted her to be innocent looking mage with dashing ice blue eyes and kissable looking lips

[soragrey]

That would be interesting.  My thought is that he is an elf.  Like the gods of Greece - he's most well known by the animal that he's associated with(like the halla lady goddess) and in art is depicted as such(so like Athena and the owl).  Likely he can probably shapeshift(like Morrigan) into a wolf.   He picks the name pride because he values wisdom and wisdom and pride are two sides of the same coin.  Wisdom can be twisted into pride/arrogance(see his quest) and he feels that it was his pride that caused the elve's downfall.  It's a reminder of his failures.   

 

 Also he can't very well be running around with his actual name. 

That gives another perspective to All New, Faded for Her.  Wisdom dies.. the "good" side of the coin, his coin.  Maybe he was mourning more than a friend passing, more than a rare spirit. Maybe it felt like part of himself died, too, or that it represented a worthy side of him dying due either his past deeds or his planned future ones. Poor guy

[Sashimi_taco]

Here.

 

k i'll be gone for a while.

[Willow_Elessidil]

k i'll be gone for a while.

 

I keep hitting replay...why.....

[Eivuwan]

Here.

 

I didn't notice that my volume was maxed out when I clicked on it. It startled me lol.

[chibielf]

Oh my, it's like angry sexytime or something....

I wish I had access to each of those files. Compelling them into a much more suggestive file, could be a fun challenge.
I listen to waaaay to many r18 japanese otome drama CDs.
And... Ill just show myself out

[dragondreamer]

So, just out of curiosity - do we know for sure if proximity to humans is what caused elven blood to 'quicken'?

 

Other than, of course, Dalish belief - which we know, due to being a result of a long game of 'telephone' (with a healthy dose of understandable bias thrown in), isn't exactly reliable as truth. I guess what I'm asking is, is there anything else to back it up? I know Solas (who I trust more as a source of information since he was presumably there) confirms that the ancient elves were, in fact, immortal, as does Felassan in TME (who is very likely an ancient elf as well) but I don't remember him confirming humans were the cause. I just re-read the Masked Empire and Felassan doesn't - he just says something about the mess humans leave behind or some such.

 

Just wondering if I missed something... Otherwise, I wonder if the 'quickening' wasn't a result of something else, with humans just acting as a convenient scapegoat.

 

We don't know for sure.  At this point, I think it's probably something related to what happened when the elven gods were sealed away and any changes to the veil.  If humans began to populate Thedas at roughly the same time, and elves began aging and getting diseases from humans at the same time, the elves may have believed the humans were the cause.

 

But it might be half true, depending on what's going on with elven immortality and so forth.  I think if they've got a spirit duality, that may have resulted in their reality being altered by human presence.  Elven reproduction weirdness may suggest they're imitating similar to what spirits do.  But humans themselves probably aren't the root of the issue.  I think we need to know what changed the world exactly and why that's significant to them.

[Rabbitonfire]

To give an analogy to how ancient elves feel, would it be better to think of the world as post-apocalyptic? For elves is describing floating spire as we attempt to describe skyscrapers to children who have only seen ruins. Or seeing modern magic look as simple as parler trips as we would be bow and arrow with guns. Just imagine the perspective of an ancient elf like you would look at playing fallout series. Tunnel Snakes rule.