Oh My. Why haven't I heard of this before? Well I don't have enough likes for this.....Where is the cat breathing heavy pic when you need it!
Solas Thread - NOW OFFICIALLY MOVED to Cyonan's BSN (link in OP)
#50401
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 12:38
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#50402
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 12:46
Sorry to interrupt your... reveries. I seem to recall people here owning Solas Bioware T-shirts. How is the quality? Is the size what it says on the page or actually smaller/larger?
#50403
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 12:48
Just checked the chart. My 2nd playthrough Dalish Inquisitor had Mythal's markings on her face. Cool.
#50404
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 12:48
Sorry to interrupt your... reveries. I seem to recall people here owning Solas Bioware T-shirts. How is the quality? Is the size what it says on the page or actually smaller/larger?
there is solas t-shirts? all I found was that one dread-wolf tarot.
#50405
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 12:48
At first I wrote this test as a joke but now I'm genuinely curious how many of you said yes to these questions.
#50406
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 12:49
In all the fantasy and science fiction I've surrounded myself with, this is a notion I never fully accepted. Seen from a scientific point of view, anything organic decays and to be "immortal" cells must renew just as quickly as they decay. Since every split second means decay, they must renew faster than that, which again would mean that the being cannot be killed because it would renew even faster than the act of killing could actually be executed.
I ran out of likes. Also, wish to couple this idea with these:
Yes! He said it was inherent! So the only thing I can compare it to IRL is cancer cells. Cancer cells are considered 'immortal' because the cell line continually reproduces (defective apoptosis = no determined cell death). So I assume this is like how the elven immortality is. If their immortality does not have a programmed "death" stage, their lifespan continues to grow and grow. The quickening can act like a regulator, therefore "stimulating" the death recognition cycle. I think. Maybe. Please poke holes if you find them, I'm kind of going off the deep end here.
Uthenera is another thing I've been chewing on. So compare uthenera to cell stasis and apply that to my cancer cell-immortality theory. Chemotherapy utilizes cytostatic treatments as a way to regulate cell growth. Uthenera could be a way of "pausing" growth/immortality/life (entering a dormant phase) rather than simply sleeping.
EDIT: Because my original post was a crazy raving abomination that was an affront to science. And I don't know where I'm going with this. I think I fried my brain.
And happy 2000+ pages all! ![]()
I am slowly working through catching up!
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#50407
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 12:50
BLLLLBLLLBLLLLLBBBBBBLLLLLL
Also because of this post I kept squinting and imagining him as Solas. Now I can't sleep.
I also googled...why did I do this to myself... AND I AM EVEN SINGLE DAMN IT!
'' Don't do that ''
I like to rebel a little..maybe it is why I like Solas.. now I hate myself hahahha
#50408
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 12:51
#50409
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 12:52
If Solas grunting should last for longer than 4 hours, seek immediate healer attention.
4 hours is nothing
listen on loop until you have to change your clothes.
*Solas' goddy style intensifies*
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#50410
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 12:53
At first I wrote this test as a joke but now I'm genuinely curious how many of you said yes to these questions.
Spoiler
If you said yes to the last question, show and tell some time when it happens. Remember, if doesn't count as an obsession until you have 5.
Are you worried for us?
#50411
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 12:56
I definitely agree, it's a perfect location as it symbolises both Solas and the Dalish-born Lavellan being trapped between the past and the future.
Solas is unable to let go of his past mistakes and keeps trying to fix them, regardless of his own desires to perhaps give up and find peace with Lavellan, as well as against all the advice of some of his oldest friends (like Flemeth) who try to convince him to abandon his quest.
Lavellan and the Dalish are likewise, trapped by the past as they seek to emulate it in their own incomplete way, not realising that they are marking themselves with ancient slave markings and trying to restore a culture that in some ways, deserves to be forgotten in how it treated it's citizens. Instead of seeking to start over and find a new home for themselves, they keep themselves apart from the other races in Thedas and even ostracise their own kin for living in human cities.
And it also shows the dichotomy between them.
Solas champions the past, while Lavellan is (for better or for worse) a figure and symbol for the future.
Yes, definitely. I managed to hit upon a really crushing combination in that scene as Solas' standoffishness about the Dalish was always a sore point for my Lavellan, and then he just delivers this final killing blow that the vallaslin is a symbol of our people's slavery, as my Lavellan asks if this is "just another thing the Dalish got wrong" in that perfectly heartbroken tone of voice. *shivers* How can one meet in the middle, truly, when Lavellan, representative of elves who have forgotten but who still try to glory in their past and cling to it, and Solas, who knows what was actually lost and sees how far elves have strayed... it really is like the elves of today are not elves. It was sweet and beautiful to have him love her for who she was, and yet I view the Dalish traditions as a fragile, if fierce, pillar of strength for their entire culture - to have that pulled out from under you is a huuuuuuuge slap in the face. It started with Abelas and his whole you-are-just-another-shemlen thing, but Solas put the last dagger in.
I was vacillating for quite a bit over whether or not to remove the vallaslin for this same reason, but it came down to this in me: my Lavellan, who is proud to be Dalish in that kind of desperate way that people cling to the crumbs of what they once were, has to sacrifice her past - not just her own, but her people's past - in order to be able to fully accept what Solas has to offer and learn the truth, look to the future of elvenkind. It's like an offering towards what is blossoming between them and what the future of elves can be in general. Solas is prepared to do the same with his almost-confession... and then he chooses not to, perhaps realizing that he might crush this blossom before it ever saw the light of day for just a fraction of the truth coming to the surface. And also (which makes it all so much worse) not only does he realize he cannot let go of the past because he must rectify his mistake, he may even realize that he must fix what he messed up for her sake as well, to give the people, her people, something more to cling to than misunderstood symbols of their time as slaves.
Then again, I thought that keeping the vallaslin would be equally potent - it should be understood for what it is, BUT it is also a symbol of remembrance. Conquering what was done to them by owning it. Those are slave markings? No more. Now they symbolize what was done to elves and their defiance in the face of that. It would totally fit. But I chose removal because of what my Lavellan wanted from Solas and she was willing to come halfway to meet him - which is why it hurt so much that he wasn't willing to do the same (regardless of how good a reason he had).
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#50412
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 12:56
I ran out of likes. Also, wish to couple this idea with these:
And happy 2000+ pages all!
I am slowly working through catching up!
science, man
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#50413
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 12:58
there is solas t-shirts? all I found was that one dread-wolf tarot.
I meant that one.
Although, now that you brought it up - I'm certain one of my friends had a customised (GTV) T-shirt printed for her husband. Perhaps if enough people were interested, we could draw/choose an art and have it printed for the group?
Personally, I would love to have this as tee or poster, but I don't even know who the artist is to ask for permission.
#50414
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 12:58
there is solas t-shirts? all I found was that one dread-wolf tarot.
Edit: Argh. Double post.
#50415
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 12:59
Does that mean you don't know either?
Oh no. I know.
#50416
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 01:00
Sorry to interrupt your... reveries. I seem to recall people here owning Solas Bioware T-shirts. How is the quality? Is the size what it says on the page or actually smaller/larger?
I own it! Quality is nice, but I wouldn't pay 25 dollars for it. I got mine on a buy two for 25. The ink is very thick, it may crack over time.
As far as sizing goes, I'm not sure. I can say that I tend to be a large in 'younger' cut shirts. I got an XL just to be on the safe side, and it is pretty huge on me. Really too big to wear in public, unfortunately. I've thought about taking it in, but I'll probably just pass it on to my brothers. Material is thin rather than thick. [Ladies size, that is.]
#50417
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 01:02
Yes, definitely. I managed to hit upon a really crushing combination in that scene as Solas' standoffishness about the Dalish was always a sore point for my Lavellan, and then he just delivers this final killing blow that the vallaslin is a symbol of our people's slavery, as my Lavellan asks if this is "just another thing the Dalish got wrong" in that perfectly heartbroken tone of voice. *shivers* How can one meet in the middle, truly, when Lavellan, representative of elves who have forgotten but who still try to glory in their past and cling to it, and Solas, who knows what was actually lost and sees how far elves have strayed... it really is like the elves of today are not elves. It was sweet and beautiful to have him love her for who she was, and yet I view the Dalish traditions as a fragile, if fierce, pillar of strength for their entire culture - to have that pulled out from under you is a huuuuuuuge slap in the face. It started with Abelas and his whole you-are-just-another-shemlen thing, but Solas put the last dagger in.
I was vacillating for quite a bit over whether or not to remove the vallaslin for this same reason, but it came down to this in me: my Lavellan, who is proud to be Dalish in that kind of desperate way that people cling to the crumbs of what they once were, has to sacrifice her past - not just her own, but her people's past - in order to be able to fully accept what Solas has to offer and learn the truth, look to the future of elvenkind. It's like an offering towards what is blossoming between them and what the future of elves can be in general. Solas is prepared to do the same with his almost-confession... and then he chooses not to, perhaps realizing that he might crush this blossom before it ever saw the light of day for just a fraction of the truth coming to the surface. And also (which makes it all so much worse) not only does he realize he cannot let go of the past because he must rectify his mistake, he may even realize that he must fix what he messed up for her sake as well, to give the people, her people, something more to cling to than misunderstood symbols of their time as slaves.
Then again, I thought that keeping the vallaslin would be equally potent - it should be understood for what it is, BUT it is also a symbol of remembrance. Conquering what was done to them by owning it. Those are slave markings? No more. Now they symbolize what was done to elves and their defiance in the face of that. It would totally fit. But I chose removal because of what my Lavellan wanted from Solas and she was willing to come halfway to meet him - which is why it hurt so much that he wasn't willing to do the same (regardless of how good a reason he had).
I just don't think Solas can change his nature, which is to cause change and rebellion, rather ironically. He states in Cole's PQ something about one can't change ones nature (I loved Verric's come back "Ya don't think?" and then Solas' icy stare). He gets close, but he just can't.
Any who, what really hurt was Abelas calling my Levellan a Shemlan. It's true, but still.
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#50418
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 01:02
Are you worried for us?
Until the obsession destroys lives, I am amused. It's like instead of watching a celebrity's every move, you enjoy watching the fans and paparazzi standing at the gate of their house. Watching them pinning tributes of love of signs and scented candles on their gate. Sobbing and shouting, "WE LOVE YOU SOLAS".
Of course I'm at the location too but I'm standing across the street. What if he needs to get out of his driveway? Sometimes I come up to read the tributes, but I walk back to where I was.
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#50419
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 01:02

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#50420
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 01:04
Until the obsession destroys lives, I am amused. It's like instead of watching a celebrity's every move, you enjoy watching the fans and paparazzi standing at the gate of their house. Watching them pinning tributes of love of signs and scented candles on their gate. Sobbing and shouting, "WE LOVE YOU SOLAS".
Of course I'm at the location too but I'm standing across the street. What if he needs to get out of his driveway? Sometimes I come up to read the tributes, but I walk back to where I was.
Well I don't think it's destroying any lives yet.
Unless you count my exhausted husband now that I read so much smut. Horniness has increased exponentially.
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#50421
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 01:06
+10 Court ApprovalCongratulations on hitting two thousand! *waves party flag*
I'm fashionably late.
I enjoyed it. It's very sad if you have any feeling for the character, but obviously not as sad as Solas'. I'm probably not giving a very ringing endorsement. I just didn't like Trevelyan much, so I wasn't that enthused about the game.I have no attraction whatsoever toward Blackwall, so I'm pursuing this merely for story purposes and curiosity. Has anyone tried it here? Is it worth it?
(I'm asking this here because the Blackwall thread would undoubtedly reply with a 'Yes!'.)
Mm, this minds me of a banter between Solas and Sera that I couldn't quite catch that Lavellan can comment on - I didn't hear most of it because we just entered battle and my dearest Solas put a noisy, enemy-sucking vortex right next to me just at that instant. I got the gist of it, though, that Solas and Lavellan want to bring back the glory of ancient elves (in mocking tones) or something like that? I think she was basically saying we're elitist pricks and wants to burst our bubble, to which Lavellan can reply "that's ridiculous" and something else. I really wish I hadn't entered battle at just that instant. Does anyone know what was said there?
Sera: So, you and the Lady Inquisitor. Interesting.
Solas: Your interest is not my concern.
Sera: That's all right, because I meant boring. The elf always takes the elf so bumping bits will mean something.
Solas: It is not a topic for discussion.
Sera: Oh, come on, drop 'em and rebuild the empire. Phwoar!
Lavellan: Sera! No more!
Sera: Hmph! Fine. Whatever.
Solas: Don't concern yourself, vhenan. She is... apart from herself.
You can also laugh it off:
Lavellan: You're ridiculous!
Sera: Not me, it's him! And you!
Solas: Only one of us is looking sad and foolish, Sera.
Sera: Oh, go twam your ears!
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#50422
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 01:09
Yes, definitely. I managed to hit upon a really crushing combination in that scene as Solas' standoffishness about the Dalish was always a sore point for my Lavellan, and then he just delivers this final killing blow that the vallaslin is a symbol of our people's slavery, as my Lavellan asks if this is "just another thing the Dalish got wrong" in that perfectly heartbroken tone of voice. *shivers* How can one meet in the middle, truly, when Lavellan, representative of elves who have forgotten but who still try to glory in their past and cling to it, and Solas, who knows what was actually lost and sees how far elves have strayed... it really is like the elves of today are not elves. It was sweet and beautiful to have him love her for who she was, and yet I view the Dalish traditions as a fragile, if fierce, pillar of strength for their entire culture - to have that pulled out from under you is a huuuuuuuge slap in the face. It started with Abelas and his whole you-are-just-another-shemlen thing, but Solas put the last dagger in.
I was vacillating for quite a bit over whether or not to remove the vallaslin for this same reason, but it came down to this in me: my Lavellan, who is proud to be Dalish in that kind of desperate way that people cling to the crumbs of what they once were, has to sacrifice her past - not just her own, but her people's past - in order to be able to fully accept what Solas has to offer and learn the truth, look to the future of elvenkind. It's like an offering towards what is blossoming between them and what the future of elves can be in general. Solas is prepared to do the same with his almost-confession... and then he chooses not to, perhaps realizing that he might crush this blossom before it ever saw the light of day for just a fraction of the truth coming to the surface. And also (which makes it all so much worse) not only does he realize he cannot let go of the past because he must rectify his mistake, he may even realize that he must fix what he messed up for her sake as well, to give the people, her people, something more to cling to than misunderstood symbols of their time as slaves.
Then again, I thought that keeping the vallaslin would be equally potent - it should be understood for what it is, BUT it is also a symbol of remembrance. Conquering what was done to them by owning it. Those are slave markings? No more. Now they symbolize what was done to elves and their defiance in the face of that. It would totally fit. But I chose removal because of what my Lavellan wanted from Solas and she was willing to come halfway to meet him - which is why it hurt so much that he wasn't willing to do the same (regardless of how good a reason he had).
Well said!
My Lavellan removed them because she felt that to brand themselves with their own shackles, long before they ever were slaves to the Shemlen, was anathema to their identity of how they like to think of themselves as the last "free" elves.
I think AWR's delivery of that line "My people vowed never again to submit" was perfectly delivered (and I'm curious to see Sumalee's take on it) in capturing that this was a rejection of that part of their history, not a rejection their identity as a proud member of the Dalish.
Well, that was my take on that line, anyway?
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#50423
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 01:11
Well said!
My Lavellan removed them because she felt that to brand themselves with their own shackles, long before they ever were slaves to the Shemlen, was anathema to their identity and how they like to think of themselves as the last "free" elves. I think AWR's delivery of that line "My people vowed never again to submit" was perfectly delivered (and I'm curious to see Sumalee's take on it) in capturing that this was a rejection of that part of their history, not a rejection their identity as a proud member of the Dalish.
Well, that was my take on that line, anyway?
I played Sumalee's VA! She did very good as well, she's mostly emotionless and monotone on delivering most comments, but she did that very very well.
#50424
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 01:11
I just don't think Solas can change his nature, which is to cause change and rebellion, rather ironically. He states in Cole's PQ something about one can't change ones nature (I loved Verric's come back "Ya don't think?" and then Solas' icy stare). He gets close, but he just can't.
Any who, what really hurt was Abelas calling my Levellan a Shemlan. It's true, but still.
I agree - but also I'd say that at this point it goes beyond rebellion and change. He's still in the fight and he has changed due to the relationship whether he admits it or not; the question becomes not can he change, but can he prevent himself from changing at a critical moment when he still has a chance to change something much larger than himself or even his relationship with Lavellan, so long as he stays the person/god/entity that has the power, will and motivation to do so? I kind of viewed their relationship as integral to his decisions: he fell in love, he knows he cannot have that and does not deserve it (though I'd be willing to prove the opposite), and suddenly he is not just on a quest to right wrongs and save his fellow gods and the people, but he must save her and the world for her. He does sacrifice in a big way, it's just that Lavellan is not initiated enough into the intimacies of his situation to know it, thus huge heartbreak instead of understanding.
Yes, I agree on that point. Being called a shem was the first huge crack in Lavellan's beliefs.
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#50425
Posté 09 janvier 2015 - 01:14
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