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#50476
Sifr

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What if Solas is like Cole and Solas' amulet is his wolf necklace?

 

Solas talks to cole all the time about how to stay calm and focused. As if he has first hand experience. 

 

Cole says that Solas HAS seen someone like him before, despite solas saying he has not. Cole is like "yeah but you have i just saw it in your head". 

 

It would fit into the theory that the Elven Gods were a type of spirit, so maybe Solas did know someone like Cole before, but made himself "Forget" to protect himself and keep himself pure to his purpose. He seems to be trying to do the same (and failing) with his relationship with Lavellan after he breaks it off with you.

 

I have often been wondering about that amulet as well, I wonder if it does have any significance?


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Precisely, there's a so much Kick The Dog Dalish moments in this game, it's actually kinda sad to think about.
 
Your Gods aren't really Gods at all (from what you can tell), Mythal has spent the last few thousand years possessing Shemlen women, actual Ancient Elves completely reject you as children playing dress up in the woods, Sera constantly mocks you and your beliefs (and after the vallaslin scene, I really wanted to punch her for being so insensitive about it), Solas reveals that you've been walking around wearing slave markings this entire time and you find out that it was the Elves own fault for starting the entire clusterfrack that was the Exalted Marches...
 
Then you have all this stuff about Corypheus and basically giving you the nagging fear that the human's religion seems to be shaping up to be far more on the ball and closer to the truth than your own...
 
:huh:

The Dalish are pretty low. If you've read TME, it's even more depressing. Don't forget that you can get your entire clan killed, which I did before I knew what I was doing.

But it will hopefully be a healing pain. The Dalish are suffering so that the elvhen can come back into at least some dignity, reclaim their true heritage and maybe move into something more hopeful. At this point the Dalish have to change or die out. Lavellan's pain can be a healing pain if she can effect some positive change. I hope it will, anyway. I said that about Mahariel, too, and thus far it hasn't worked out, but she's not done in my game yet, either.
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#50478
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I come back and there's porn and funnies and sexy pictures.

 

I love you all so much. 

Right? I snorted soda up my nose and got looks from my roommates. Mind-blowing theories, intellectual debates, and smutty porn. This thread is glorious.< 3


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I actually also started doing this little bit nauhgty photo XD it is just a beginning plus the light was awful so sorry about the quality

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#50480
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Don't worry. We accept all bits here. Especially the naughty ones.



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Sera: So, you and the Lady Inquisitor. Interesting.
Solas: Your interest is not my concern.
Sera: That's all right, because I meant boring. The elf always takes the elf so bumping bits will mean something.
Solas: It is not a topic for discussion.
Sera: Oh, come on, drop 'em and rebuild the empire. Phwoar!
Lavellan: Sera! No more!
Sera: Hmph! Fine. Whatever.
Solas: Don't concern yourself, vhenan. She is... apart from herself.

You can also laugh it off:

Lavellan: You're ridiculous!
Sera: Not me, it's him! And you!
Solas: Only one of us is looking sad and foolish, Sera.
Sera: Oh, go twang your ears!

 

You can hear the second one here, if you're so inclined!:

 



#50482
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Yes, definitely. I managed to hit upon a really crushing combination in that scene as Solas' standoffishness about the Dalish was always a sore point for my Lavellan, and then he just delivers this final killing blow that the vallaslin is a symbol of our people's slavery, as my Lavellan asks if this is "just another thing the Dalish got wrong" in that perfectly heartbroken tone of voice. *shivers* How can one meet in the middle, truly, when Lavellan, representative of elves who have forgotten but who still try to glory in their past and cling to it, and Solas, who knows what was actually lost and sees how far elves have strayed... it really is like the elves of today are not elves. It was sweet and beautiful to have him love her for who she was, and yet I view the Dalish traditions as a fragile, if fierce, pillar of strength for their entire culture - to have that pulled out from under you is a huuuuuuuge slap in the face. It started with Abelas and his whole you-are-just-another-shemlen thing, but Solas put the last dagger in.

 

I was vacillating for quite a bit over whether or not to remove the vallaslin for this same reason, but it came down to this in me: my Lavellan, who is proud to be Dalish in that kind of desperate way that people cling to the crumbs of what they once were, has to sacrifice her past - not just her own, but her people's past - in order to be able to fully accept what Solas has to offer and learn the truth, look to the future of elvenkind. It's like an offering towards what is blossoming between them and what the future of elves can be in general. Solas is prepared to do the same with his almost-confession... and then he chooses not to, perhaps realizing that he might crush this blossom before it ever saw the light of day for just a fraction of the truth coming to the surface. And also (which makes it all so much worse) not only does he realize he cannot let go of the past because he must rectify his mistake, he may even realize that he must fix what he messed up for her sake as well, to give the people, her people, something more to cling to than misunderstood symbols of their time as slaves.

Then again, I thought that keeping the vallaslin would be equally potent - it should be understood for what it is, BUT it is also a symbol of remembrance. Conquering what was done to them by owning it. Those are slave markings? No more. Now they symbolize what was done to elves and their defiance in the face of that. It would totally fit. But I chose removal because of what my Lavellan wanted from Solas and she was willing to come halfway to meet him - which is why it hurt so much that he wasn't willing to do the same (regardless of how good a reason he had).

 

Damn you put it so well! <3 <3

 

This is all my thoughts too. Wish I could write in english half as well as you did


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#50483
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*Quietly sobs in desperation for answers*

 

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I actually also started doing this little bit nauhgty photo XD it is just a beginning plus the light was awful so sorry about the quality

Spoiler

 

This is in no way inspire by the video i suggested people to not look up earlier. I can tell. It's not like it at all. 

 

:3


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Right? I snorted soda up my nose and got looks from my roommates. Mind-blowing theories, intellectual debates, and smutty porn. This thread is glorious.< 3

 

Do you mind if I use this as my signature? I've never had one on the bsn before and I think this is most worthy.


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Intriiiiiguing. 



#50487
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Don't worry. We accept all bits here. Especially the naughty ones.

Right?

Solas/F!Travelyan
I have no interest in the pairing, but it seems to be a sweet nice one for a change.'

 

NSFW?
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#50488
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Do you mind if I use this as my signature? I've never had one on the bsn before and I think this is most worthy.

xD Go for it! 


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#50489
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You guys I seriously love my elfy inqisitor.

Even more than my first girl. I love her. So. Much.

I'm really attached.
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#50490
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Damn you put it so well! <3 <3

 

This is all my thoughts too. Wish I could write in english half as well as you did

 

Why, thank you! *blush* As a writer, I am always happy to hear such feedback.  <3



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This is in no way inspire by the video i suggested people to not look up earlier. I can tell. It's not like it at all. 

 

:3

I told you I watched it XD


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This is in no way inspire by the video i suggested people to not look up earlier. I can tell. It's not like it at all. 

 

:3

I liked 2 different positions pretty much because they were looking pretty artistic so I was planning on using the other position too. Obiviously censured


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#50493
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I'm sort of impressed everyone seems unfazed by porn. Legit porn. Lol.
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I'm sort of impressed everyone seems unfazed by porn. Legit porn. Lol.

 

It's nice. My friends don't talk about these things haha.


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Maybe that's the way you see. I can't see it that way.

 

I personally admire what Solas and the Dalish are trying to do, even though I think they're mistaken in how they're going about it.

 

My answer to their struggles isn't "the past sucks and you shouldn't waste your time trying to remember or fix it. You should just forget about it and move forward without it." I feel that's throwing out the good with the bad. My answer instead would be would be, "Tread with caution. Stay flexible. Keep an open mind. Be willing to ask for help when you need it, and/or accept help when offered. Be willing to alter your course when you come across new obstacles and/or new information instead of trying to charge blindly through." But then you can say that about any endeavor.

 

(Besides, every culture in Thedas has negative aspects of itself worth forgetting, not just ancient Arlthan. The Chantry, for example, has encouraged magic-phobia against mages, racism against non-humans, sexism against men, and fundamental religious intolerance by branding all religions besides their own "false, heathen, and savage" for centuries. Should we disband the whole Chantry and dismiss it as "deserving of being forgotten"? Or modify/reform it? Maintain the good while fixing the bad? If all Thedas empires/nations/societies/cultures have flaws, I think the elves deserve to have their own rather than the ones that others push on them. As Merrill tells Anders: We have our own stories. I don't need to borrow yours.)

 

Besides, the Dalish can show a bit of flexibility on recovering the past. When Solas reveals what the marks meant in Arlathan, Lavellan can basically respond, "Whatever they were used for before, the Dalish have reclaimed them. This is what they mean to us now." And Solas will admit that despite what he's said about the Dalish, he admires that indomitable spirit.

 

And that's why my Lavellan chose to keep her vallaslin. She got it to honor her heritage, and she still thinks it's a heritage worth honoring, even if it's not worth replicating down to the last detail. And how would she know there were details not worth replicating if she didn't learn about it? She believes in learning about the past and educating the Dalish as much as possible and letting them decide for themselves which parts of the past are worth keeping and which parts are worth forgetting; which they can't do if it's all forgotten.

 

Oh no, I entirely agree with you that the Dalish are admirable for how they're trying to keep their culture alive and intact, despite how incomplete some of it is. It's a noble goal and it's worth preserving, as despite all the flack they get from people like Sera and some of the criticisms that Solas and Abelas give them, they are really the only bastion of that culture in the modern world that's out there.

 

As Lavellan can say to Solas in that first meeting when he comments on this, the Dalish aren't perfect, but they are trying.

 

Similarly, when you can call Abelas out when he comments that by taking the knowledge of the Well, it will be "lost" forever, by pointing out that by hording that knowledge and culture in a crumbling ruin, rather than sharing it with the elves that still exist in the world, it already is lost.

 

What I meant was, the Dalish in some ways are no different from Abelas and the Sentinels, in that they also tightly cling on to the past that is lost and are content to horde their knowledge from their kin, looking down on the "flat-ears" for being little more than Shemlen. They could be doing so much more to help, teach or reach out to the other elves, but they refuse to do so, out of pride and stubborness.

 

To be honest, that moment when Abelas rebuffs Lavellan is actually quite a nice little parallel to that Dalish's own attitude sometimes, as we're now seeing how much it utterly sucks to be on the recieving end of "I'm the true Elf and you're just a pretender".

 

I like to think that Lavellan learnt quite a great deal about the value of tolerance and acceptance of others over the course of the game, evolving from the relatively sheltered individual they were implied to be at the start (judging by some of their comments about how the clan avoided outsiders), to someone who's become rather versed in various peoples and cultures.


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#50496
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I'm sort of impressed everyone seems unfazed by porn. Legit porn. Lol.

Whats wrong about that. Sex is a natural thing in life.. I don't understand those ones who get scared of seeing something sexual. 


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#50497
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It's nice. My friends don't talk about these things haha.

Aww :( I share things with many of my friends.. we have these girl groups and we talk about everything lol XD


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#50498
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Whats wrong about that. Sex is a natural thing in life.. I don't understand those ones who get scared of seeing something sexual.


No no, you misunderstand. I love that this thread is so open. Many threads would not be.

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xD Go for it!

<3 Thank you!
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#50500
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*Spits raspberry tea all over the screen*
REVEAL YOUR SECRETS!!
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