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[Eivuwan]

Andruil went crazy because she kept going into the Void, prior to that we don't know her personality (other than the fact she had a thing for Solas).
I think all of Sera's actions fit with her childhood and life experiences. Even her loosing it and murdering that noble, although shocking at the time, made sense for her as a character.
I'm definitely not on board the Andruil is Sera theory train. I loathe reincarnation stories, loaaaatttthhhhee. I much rather a character be who they are because of how their lives shaped them, not because they were once X person in this life. Or they must hate this person or love this person because five lifetimes and a chocolate chip cookie ago they hated or loved them. Bleh, no thanks.
But, I'm sure no matter what Dragon Age does it will be clever and interesting.

 

Most of my posts here are jokes, theories or stories that I find amusing, or random postings of hot Solas pics. Don't take me too seriously. =D

[NeverlandHunter]

Most of my posts here are jokes, theories or stories that I find amusing, or random postings of hot Solas pics. Don't take me too seriously. =D

Yeah I kind of got that from your haha, but it seems like everyone hates Andruil already and I have this strange need to support the underdog (play devil's advocate). So I went of an ranted as a just in case

[slmisfit]

I apologize if I upset you. I'm just holding a lot of resentment towards Leliana about the whole Solas thing :-/ which is weird, she's not real, she shouldn't upset me so.
After Solas leaves and you go back to Skyhold and she's all "I knew you to were close." I'm just seething. You. Should. Have. Seen. This. Coming. (Of course so should Lavellan, but it's easier to take my anger out on her)
Anywho, I do like Leliana and would of loved for her to have had a conversation with the Iron Bull or any of the companions for that matter.

I don't see why anyone should be upset with Leli at all, to be honest. lol

 

Solas never did anything to indicate that he was someone Leliana should expend valuable time and resources checking into. Yes, he showed up practically out of nowhere in the middle of a crisis to offer help, but he did exactly that, and continued to do so after the initial attempt to close the Breach. Why would she waste time and effort checking up on someone who wasn't hindering the Inquisition's efforts? She had much more important things to worry about than someone who was helping being a little shady (I mean hello, she's pretty damn shady herself). If Solas had ever actually done anything to harm the Inquisition in any way, I'm pretty sure Leliana would have investigated him and his claims much earlier.

 

The same goes for Blackwall. It benefited the Inquisition to stay quiet about his true identity, so that's what she did. When his true identity comes out, what happens? Well... if you utilized those Warden treaties when you first recruited Blackwall, people get angry about that. If you use the Inquisition's influence to get him out of jail then - you guessed it - people get angry. You then have to waste time and resources placating those people (well, you don't have to, obviously... you can ignore all the war table missions if you really want to) while you're still in the middle of dealing with Corypheus.

 

So yeah, I don't blame Leli for putting Solas investigations on the back burner at all. A slightly shady elf who's still being super helpful was the absolute least of everyone's worries.

[BoscoBread]

I always let Solas kill the mages. I like to think that he's been friends with that spirit for ages. She does speak ancient elven. (Slightly ignoring that she's wisdom so she simply knows it) and there's just that sense of long friendship. I know what it's like to lose a friend but one I've possibly known for hundreds of years?

And it seems those mages would have done something stupid again sooner rather than later. Why were they in a location plagued by undead and bandit's anyway? Pretty terrible place for hiding.

I do like the fact that one soft call of his name and Solas backs down. I doubt I would have listened so easily.

I waffle on it.  I think for for OTP, I won't.  I'm not a fan of vengeance and I think it would be more to protect Solas from himself than anything.  They weren't worth the potential guilt and the blood. The mage guy is an asshat so I headcanon that as Solas walked away Lavellan decks the mage guy. I really wish that was an option. 

[Eivuwan]

Yeah I kind of got that from your haha, but it seems like everyone hates Andruil already and I have this strange need to support the underdog (play devil's advocate). So I went of an ranted as a just in case

 

Although according to Solas, Andruil did hunt elves. I mean, some of the hate is well-deserved.

[Sable Rhapsody]

So yeah, I don't blame Leli for putting Solas investigations on the back burner at all. A slightly shady elf who's still being super helpful was the absolute least of everyone's worries.

 

And let's assume Leliana HAD investigated Solas and found out he was lying about his identity.

 

What exactly was she supposed to do next?  Kick out the guy who saved the Herald's life, the only one with any clue of what to do about the Breach?  Expose him to the Inquisitor?  What good would it have done to remove the Inquisition's only Fade expert or place him under suspicion?  Even softened Leliana is still a pragmatist, and I'm sure she has plenty of dirt on people that she doesn't dish because it doesn't matter while Corypheus is still up and kicking.

[BoscoBread]

I apologize if I upset you. I'm just holding a lot of resentment towards Leliana about the whole Solas thing :-/ which is weird, she's not real, she shouldn't upset me so.
After Solas leaves and you go back to Skyhold and she's all "I knew you to were close." I'm just seething. You. Should. Have. Seen. This. Coming. (Of course so should Lavellan, but it's easier to take my anger out on her)
Anywho, I do like Leliana and would of loved for her to have had a conversation with the Iron Bull or any of the companions for that matter.

At the end of the day, the blame lies with Solas.  He...hid the truth.  He's the one that left.  He may very well have been born in that ruined village...but like thousands of years ago.  Despite the big reveal, he did want to help. He did care about the people he travelled with - not just Lavellan(again a gentle reminder not everyone here romanced him).  At the time, it was not really important that he was actually Fen'Harel.  Even if he had revealed that he had given the orb to Corypheus, he was the best person to help get it back.  Seriously, the guy could have been Satan and as long as he was helping, who would really care.  I agree that Leliana could have checked harder, but she's got a good read on people too.  Solas was/is a good guy.  At that point in time, it was enough. 

[Renmiri1]

Even dwarves?!   My god.

 

I think the Anchor's direct connection to the Earth's power is regrowing the Inquisitor's fade shadow.  (Fade shadows and magic theory here)

 

I'm... pretty sure she's becoming immortal.  Or is already.  Having a complete fade shadow is what ancient elven immortality was- a conduit that gave them the innate ability to sustain their physical form by drawing on the fade.  And that's what makes Lavellan in particular being "real"- either completely Elvhen, or getting there- so important, and lets us keep the "Everything's Going To Be OK" tarot card.  

 

Because if she is, he doesn't have to break the Forgotten Ones out of the void to restore his People.  

 

If this is true, this is amazingly good news for Team Optimism.  Brace yourselves: we may actually be bumping bits to restore the Empire.

 

I AM SO EXCITED NOW.

 

WEEEKES.  GAIIIIIIDER.   I knew you wouldn't let us down!!!

what did I miss ? Explain please.. I have like 100 pages to read

[madrar]

Yeah I kind of got that from your haha, but it seems like everyone hates Andruil already and I have this strange need to support the underdog (play devil's advocate). So I went of an ranted as a just in case

 

Not to get too deep into metagame theory, but they kind of have to set Sera up as being more than a little emotional and unstable when it comes to taking out rage on "Big Hats" for the later reveal that Andruil blackened the City to feel right in retrospect.    

 

She's awesome regardless- and her heart is definitely in the right place in both circumstances- she just gets a bit carried away.   The game world needs somebody to pull the Doom Laser trigger, and Sera's being set up as the one to do it, even though it makes her temper in smaller contexts a little uncomfortably... stabby.

 

Like Varric says, "No story is dramatic if the people in it act sensibly."     =w=

[AWTEW]

Yeah, this is probably not a popular opinion here, but I seem to be the only who thinks it's weird for Solas to wear the bones and skin of his animal. I mean, would you wear your dog's skull and fur?

It was probably just for artistic symbolisim..but was it really nesscary with all the wolf statues.

Andruil was nuts. Sera is theorized to be Andruil reincarnated by some folks. Sera is nuts because she's Andruil haha.

That would be hillarious if true..and explain a few things..about her.

[slmisfit]

You can see the Twitter string here. It was a generic model never intended to be seen that clearly.

 

You'd think they'd know that there are fans out there who looooooove picking apart every little thing they can get their hands on in an effort to decipher what's going on and what's going to happen next. lol

[BoscoBread]

what did I miss ? Explain please.. I have like 100 pages to read

 I think OP got excited that that the 3rd degree Solas gives you on the balcony is the same for every Inky no matter the race/romance status with Solas.  I think that's supposed to mean something - what I don't quite get.  All I took from that conversation(aside from the swoons) was that Solas was trying to understand if the mark was making them different because it's technically HIS magic. It's HIS power that was coursing through the Inquisitor.  It's an opportunity for the writers to let Solas start to realize that "maybe this age isn't so bad after all. maybe the dalish/humans/qunari/dwarves aren't all ****** morons like i thought".  which is what he says.

[madrar]

what did I miss ? Explain please.. I have like 100 pages to read

 

There's not really much more to it than what I posted, though the link to the whole magic of Thedas theory is worth a quick look, since it explains how the whole thing is set up, and why Solas yanks Cole out of his head during the post-breakup party banter.

 

"They sleep, masked in a mirror, hurting, and to wake them... *gasp*"

 

It's about his goals- what he's heading off to do at the end of the game.  Revolution and rebalance in the DA universe is always, always centered around the Wife, the Husband, and the Lover.  He knows that having the Earth's Anchor means it's either you or Mythal: one of you is going to have to die to power the coming revolution.

 

So... yeah.  At the end of the game, when he takes Mythal's power and she basically is no more?  That's Solas, sacrificing his Mother-Creator for your sake. 

 

Guy really knows how to make a sweet gesture. 

[Tielis]

This might be a bit creepy, but perhaps the mark allows Solas to see into Lavellan's soul/spirit in a way that he normally can't. He probably knew her in a deep way and she didn't even know it. That's why he fell in love with her so quickly.

 

Sorry, but that's creepy as hell.  I hope I'm not the only one who thinks so.

[Eivuwan]

Sorry, but that's creepy as hell.  I hope I'm not the only one who thinks so.

 

Well, I wasn't thinking about mind reading. More like he can see beyond her physical self and see the purity of her spirit/soul or something. And this is due to the link that developed from her having the mark.

 

Edit: Top of the page means I need to post a pic right?

 

To creep Tielis out hehe

 

 

http://iellas.tumblr.com/

[slmisfit]

http://www.deviantar...th-Me-505981236

I like how wolfy that Lavellan looks. Very fitting. XD

[panamakira]

Sorry, but that's creepy as hell.  I hope I'm not the only one who thinks so.

LOL nope I'm in the same boat. I wouldn't like to to think that Solas was invading Lavellan's space/mind like that. That's not romantic to me but invasive and creepy. I can take Fade-tongue though!

[laurelinvanyar]

LOL nope I'm in the same boat. I wouldn't like to to think that Solas was invading Lavellan's space/mind like that. That's not romantic to me but invasive and creepy. I can take Fade-tongue though!

darnit, out of likes

[madrar]

 I think OP got excited that that the 3rd degree Solas gives you on the balcony is the same for every Inky no matter the race/romance status with Solas.  I think that's supposed to mean something - what I don't quite get.  All I took from that conversation(aside from the swoons) was that Solas was trying to understand if the mark was making them different because it's technically HIS magic. It's HIS power that was coursing through the Inquisitor.  It's an opportunity for the writers to let Solas start to realize that "maybe this age isn't so bad after all. maybe the dalish/humans/qunari/dwarves aren't all ****** morons like i thought".  which is what he says.

 

It's not actually his magic, is the thing.  The orb is Mythal's focus, granted to him after he was restored to the Pantheon as Fen'Harel, way back in Arlathan.  The power of the Anchor is also Mythal's- it's a direct link to the Fade, domain of the Earth.  

 

The most likely reason he's prodding you during that conversation is because the Anchor is having (or has had) a significant effect on the Inquisitor's "presence" in the fade- she's becoming fully present on both sides of the veil, like he is.  This is significant for just every Inquisitor, but has extra special significance for Solavellan, because that's literally what it means to be one of his People.  That's what an ancient Elf is: a split being, half physical, half fade.  

 

It means he's not alone anymore.  And that means he doesn't need to run off to the Void to recover his People.  He has you.  

[Sashimi_taco]

Reminder: Solas is a butt man.

 

[Eivuwan]

LOL nope I'm in the same boat. I wouldn't like to to think that Solas was invading Lavellan's space/mind like that. That's not romantic to me but invasive and creepy. I can take Fade-tongue though!

 

I'm not a terribly private person so even though it's a bit creepy it's not massively creepy for me. Sometimes I think it would be nice if people can look past the exterior and empty words and understand each other on a deeper level. Mind meld. But that's just me.

[Gwyvian]

Yes exactly how I felt about it too~ Plus even if he's somebody you're romantically involved with, there are bound to be times when you disagree. You don't have to agree with everything just because he's a LI. If he trusted my Lavellan enough to ask for help then her opinions on the matter were important too. At the end of the day, he still lost his friend, regardless of whether he killed the mages or not.

 

 

Yep. He has enough guilt and regrets and I feel like he would feel bad about it later, not because he killed the mages but because he felt he lost control that way. I would see him coming to his senses later on.

 

I didn't go small with that, haha, I recruited the Wardens, which is a massive disapproval from Solas (and I really wish I had that argument with him about it because I was soooo confused at first why he would even care.) Some insight would have been nice. But I let him get his way and I did go on his advice with Cole - he's just so... happy as a spirit, it's hard to put that aside. But I haven't really tried the human path yet. Next PT......

 

Plus, I don't necessarily agree about how Solas might feel later on - I mean, sometimes people deserve to die in a world like DA. I don't see why Solas should have twinges of guilt (especially seeing as he's got something far, far worse to feel bad about already - a couple of mages is like peanuts to that weight on his soul.)

 

I waffle on it.  I think for for OTP, I won't.  I'm not a fan of vengeance and I think it would be more to protect Solas from himself than anything.  They weren't worth the potential guilt and the blood. The mage guy is an asshat so I headcanon that as Solas walked away Lavellan decks the mage guy. I really wish that was an option. 

 

Hm. I chose it and might again because I like a bit of darkness to make things interesting in my LI's. Buuut then I decided to let him kill them before I knew he was Fen'Harel. Plenty murkiness there. But I agree, I'd love to have had the option of decking them, if I chose to let them live.

 

When I sent Cullen with his soldiers on the final War Table mission, my clan died.  I had to reload after six hours of post-ending gameplay to try again, and Leliana kept them alive by having the Dalish infiltrate.

 

Cullen can actually succeed?  I knew he said they'd die if I didn't send him, but they died when I did send him.  Weird... I wonder if it ties in to one of the other choices? I sent Josephine's diplomat on the first one.  I don't remember the others.

 

 

Just going to politely point out here that not everyone wants a perfect ending (I like happiness, but some don't), and also that not everyone wants to "bump bits for the Empire."  Some people don't want kids for their Inquisitor and some don't want sex.  I would personally love to have the option, but... don't force it on those who don't want it.

 

 

Because she's shown on screen with her brutality?  Because you can't stop her?  Because, as others pointed out, she'd have attacked any noble in the same way?  Because she actually had a hand in causing the problem that she was attacking him for?  Because she is unnecessarily brutal about it?  Because she could have killed him with the knife quickly but beat and kicked him to death instead?

 

Lots of reasons.  Sera scares me.  I don't like Solas's rage either, but Sera's bothered me even more.

 

As to Cullen - I chose Leliana first to find out what's actually going on, then I got her to sneak the clan into the city and then Cullen at the very end to fortify them rather than Josie (who I'm glad I didn't pick after reading that she gets everyone killed in this instance.) So in a way, Cullen can succeed, but all these tri-or-more-part-quests seem to have a specific combination for the best outcome. Liiiike... I'd love to know how I managed to get all my Wardens killed. That was not my intention.

 

As for Solas happy ending - well, I want choice. I want the ability to have one (and possibly one with huge consequences that I have to live with.) That would be awesome. But also neutral/tragic endings, too, there should be a path for each in my opinion.

[madrar]

 

Just going to politely point out here that not everyone wants a perfect ending (I like happiness, but some don't), and also that not everyone wants to "bump bits for the Empire."  Some people don't want kids for their Inquisitor and some don't want sex.  I would personally love to have the option, but... don't force it on those who don't want it.

 

 

It certainly won't be a forced choice- that's not Bioware's thing.  But it does seem like to be the only way we might be able to convince him not to break open the Void to try to free the Forgotten Ones.   

 

Which would be a very bad idea.  Because ancient angry blighted Dragon God.  

 

I couldn't care less about the bit-bumping, personally.  I'm just excited as hell that there seems to be a glimmer of hope for an end that includes Solas happy and alive, which... I totally did not expect.  To add insult to theory-injury, I think there's a post way back where I wrote that literally bumping bits to save the Empire would be the only explanation for romance gating Bioware could pull that would surprise me.

 

Yeah.   They got me.  @w@   Man, am I surprised.

[Gwyvian]

It's not actually his magic, is the thing.  The orb is Mythal's focus, granted to him after he was restored to the Pantheon as Fen'Harel, way back in Arlathan.  The power of the Anchor is also Mythal's- it's a direct link to the Fade, domain of the Earth.  

 

The most likely reason he's prodding you during that conversation is because the Anchor is having (or has had) a significant effect on the Inquisitor's "presence" in the fade- she's becoming fully present on both sides of the veil, like he is.  This is significant for just every Inquisitor, but has extra special significance for Solavellan, because that's literally what it means to be one of his People.  That's what an ancient Elf is: a split being, half physical, half fade.  

 

It means he's not alone anymore.  And that means he doesn't need to run off to the Void to recover his People.  He has you.  

 

That made me tear up. *sniff*

[HurricaneGinger]

LOL nope I'm in the same boat. I wouldn't like to to think that Solas was invading Lavellan's space/mind like that. That's not romantic to me but invasive and creepy. I can take Fade-tongue though!

 

I kind of take it that he can see glimpses, and get a better sense of how she feels, but not everything.

 

I still love that in the Fade dream, essentially she seeks him out and not the other way around. He's a private person, he wouldn't invade privacy like that on purpose.

 

 

It's not actually his magic, is the thing.  The orb is Mythal's focus, granted to him after he was restored to the Pantheon as Fen'Harel, way back in Arlathan.  The power of the Anchor is also Mythal's- it's a direct link to the Fade, domain of the Earth.  

 

The most likely reason he's prodding you during that conversation is because the Anchor is having (or has had) a significant effect on the Inquisitor's "presence" in the fade- she's becoming fully present on both sides of the veil, like he is.  This is significant for just every Inquisitor, but has extra special significance for Solavellan, because that's literally what it means to be one of his People.  That's what an ancient Elf is: a split being, half physical, half fade.  

 

It means he's not alone anymore.  And that means he doesn't need to run off to the Void to recover his People.  He has you.  

 

THEN HE SHOULD FLIPPIN COME BACK BECAUSE I'LL TERRWYN WILL TAKE ON THE WORLD WITH HIM