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[Janic99]

This is nice. Found it on tumblr. Its short and not particularly dirty but it's pretty sexy.

http://transsolas.tu...-my-every-sense

That was indeed.. pretty.. yeah.. *changes pants* wait wat

[flabbadence]

So I got my 'Art of Dragon Age Inquisition' book and I ran across a drawing of a carpet in Winter Palace...

 

 

It's could be meaningless, but still? It's a rather big carpet, once I get to the Winter Palace I'll try to find out where it is...

What do you think that these 4 dots mean (in the center of each circle)? only the bottom left circle has those dots in Solas' card.

 

Is there any reason for Solas to be tied to the lion image? From what I remember, a lion's supposed to represent Orlais, yes? One important lineage particularly, but I can't remember which.

[Janic99]

I never realised before that in his room on the wall are painted wolves plus check out the thingie on the floor. XD I am stupid

[flabbadence]

This is nice. Found it on tumblr. Its short and not particularly dirty but it's pretty sexy.

http://transsolas.tu...-my-every-sense

 

From the same author:

 

http://transsolas.tu...t-he-didnt-want

 

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA holy **** I'm just laughing here like an idiot because otherwise I'll start to cry

[Shari'El]

Good find!
Well on Solas tarot card I'd say that the sun is a reference to Elgar'nan and the moon to Mythal, dunno about the other two...
I wonder if there are 4 orbs or something?

 

Well, one moon, one sun, 4 dots & 3 waves = 9 gods? :S

[Shari'El]

Is there any reason for Solas to be tied to the lion image? From what I remember, a lion's supposed to represent Orlais, yes? One important lineage particularly, but I can't remember which.

 

Yes Orlais and lions are very connected.

[LliiraAnna]

Well, one moon, one sun, 4 dots & 3 waves = 9 gods? :S

Maybe more like... Sun, Moon, Land and Sea?  

[Janic99]

So here was the first page of my fan comic of Solas meeting my Lavellan for the first time when she ran away from the Dalish camp because she liked to rebel as a child ( lol reason why she likes Solas later hahah ) and she discovered about the fade for the first time ( She is a mage ) but since fade can also be dangerous place her parents were pretty worried and told her not to go to the fade and she basically wants to prove them that she could handle it so she decided to ran off the forest all alone Oh and Solas later wipes out her memory of the meeting. 

[Shari'El]

Maybe more like... Sun, Moon, Land and Sea? 

 

Thought about it, but then I asked - why? What does the sea and land mean in his context?

[LliiraAnna]

Thought about it, but then I asked - why? What does the sea and land mean in his context?

Long ago, when time itself was young, the only things in existence were the sun and the land.

—From Codex entry: Elgar'nan: God of Vengeance

 

It was at this moment that Mythal walked out of the sea of the Earth's tears and onto the land. 

—From Codex entry: Mythal: the Great Protector

 

And Mythal also created the moon.

 

It's basically an elven version of fire-water-earth-air (four elements which are the foundation of the world). Or close enough. A bit like egyptian mythology as well. 

[SamanthaJ]

So I got my 'Art of Dragon Age Inquisition' book and I ran across a drawing of a carpet in Winter Palace...

 

 

It's could be meaningless, but still? It's a rather big carpet, once I get to the Winter Palace I'll try to find out where it is...

What do you think that these 4 dots mean (in the center of each circle)? only the bottom left circle has those dots in Solas' card.

That's a pretty amazing find. There's no way that could be meaningless, right? The circular patterns are exactly the same. It has to at least be an elven thing or something? With the lion on there it probably represents Celene's family...Maybe this is an in game example of cultural appropriation or something (I'm joking, really, but we didn't get to wear elven armor as a human and we didn't get to ride a halla at all. There had to be something). 

 

This is just a really out there guess, but perhaps whatever is on that carpet is actually elven and instead of a lion's face there is supposed to be a wolf's face or something (since Solas is kind of in the lion's place it might be a Fen'Harel thing). Maybe all the gods had carpet designs like this with their favored animal. Do we know if all the elven panetheon had favored animals? I know of Andruil and Falon'Din and I think Dirthamen...If so, do we know what they are? Maybe one of them had a lion or something and it's just being passed off as Celene's family's. Maybe I'm completely wrong and it's a human design that is on Solas's card just becaue. I don't know, I'm not  a lore person. It's 6 AM here now, I think I'll try sleeping. Good [insert time of day adjective to correspond to your time-zone here].

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[flabbadence]

*distracting myself from that sad fic with lore*

(that's... actually a pretty accurate summary of my free time now)

 

And here's what's said about the Orlesian lion:

 

 

As to your question regarding why a lion is considered the symbol of Orlais, particularly when the lion is a creature native only to eastern Thedas, the answer is quite simple. It adorns the crest of the Valmonts, the family that has ruled the empire since the end of the Exalted Age, and in truth it is the Valmonts which have come to represent Orlais. Before them, the Orlesian symbol was that of the descendants of Kordillus Drakon: a dragon.

 

As to why the lion adorns their crest? That dates back to the time of Lambert Valmont, a young captain of Orlais who distinguished himself at the Battle of Ayesleigh, that great and infamous battle that ended the Fourth Blight. It is said that young Valmont disregarded orders during the battle, taking his forces to relieve the beleaguered Antivans and saving them from absolute destruction. Though his superiors were at first chagrined, chalking up the captain's actions to an infatuation with a certain Antivan camp follower (this, incidentally, has never been confirmed), it later came to light that the Antivan force had been led by King Azar Adalberto Campana himself. In the political realignment following the Blight's end, Antiva was an important ally to Orlais—and Lambert Valmont was an Antivan hero. He was given the hand of one of King Azar's daughters in marriage and elevated to noble rank, with a valiant lion to adorn his newly created heraldry. The Orlesian emperor was forced to respond in kind, granting Valmont a marquisate. Imagine, if you will, the hero returning to Val Royeaux from the Blight, sporting a wife with royal blood and the honors of two nations. This is why jealous nobles called him the Swaggering Lion, a nickname he embraced.

 

It was Lambert Valmont's son, Alphonse, who later led the civil war against the usurper, Xavier Drakon. He killed Xavier in single combat, giving rise to the great Orlesian legend of the Lion Slaying the Dragon, putting an end to the Drakon dynasty as he assumed the throne... and changing the Orlesian symbol forever.

 

—From a letter by Brother Genitivi to Prince Cailan Theirin, 9:20 Dragon

[Sister Squish]

 

Eluvians, yes. Lyrium...

 

Does Solas ever mention anything about lyrium? He seems pretty ignorant about dwarves in general, going by his conversations with Varric. And that's really weird. You'd think a society built on magic would be choking on lyrium. Maybe... lyrium didn't exist before the veil was put in place? The elves relied purely on their mana and blood before that?

<snip>

 

That's pretty much what I am thinking. It's all tied together somehow. Solas had a conversation with Varric last night where he referred to the Dwarves as having an arm cutoff... and there was something Cole said at some point relating to it that made me think along these lines.

 

I'm not really "up" on Titan/dwarf lore and dates (@Cadius probably has them!) buuut....
I believe the general theory is that lyrium is the "conduit" for "the stone"'s "hive-mind" properties. Titans, and "the stone" supposedly predate the Pantheon - something which conversations with Dagna refer to. Also, when Andruil wanders the void and returns having been driven mad, it has been speculated that she actually discovered red lyrium and brought it back with her. 
We explored Solas' conversations regarding the Blight, so I'm semi-confident he does not explain that. I... don't recall him ever explaining the nature of red lyrium? Even being covered in the stuff during In Hushed Whispers, which is frustrating. 

But, if we dismiss the connection between "the stone" and lyrium, it is possible that lyrium was a residue-like side effect of manufacturing/maintaining the veil, sure. 

 

So I got my 'Art of Dragon Age Inquisition' book and I ran across a drawing of a carpet in Winter Palace...

 

Spoiler

It's could be meaningless, but still? It's a rather big carpet, once I get to the Winter Palace I'll try to find out where it is...

What do you think that these 4 dots mean (in the center of each circle)? only the bottom left circle has those dots in Solas' card.

 

 

Ah this was discussed a while ago... let me try to recall... 

> 9 stars on Solas card = 9 members of the Pantheon

> Sun = Elgar'nan

> Moon = Andruil

> Water = Mythal

> 4 dots = ? 

Yeah we figured it represented Solas' buddies - and since the Winter Palace (aka Halamshiral) was once a place of significance for ancient elves, it follows that pattern would pop up. Or the designers could simply be reusing a pattern /shrug.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Janic99]

That's a pretty amazing find. There's no way that could be meaningless, right? The circular patterns are exactly the same. It has to at least be an elven thing or something? With the lion on there it probably represents Celene's family...Maybe this is an in game example of cultural appropriation or something (I'm joking, really, but we didn't get to wear elven armor as a human and we didn't get to ride a halla at all. There had to be something). 

 

This is just a really out there guess, but perhaps whatever is on that carpet is actually elven and instead of a lion's face there is supposed to be a wolf's face or something (since Solas is kind of in the lion's place it might be a Fen'Harel thing). Maybe all the gods had carpet designs like this with their favored animal. Do we know if all the elven panetheon had favored animals? I know of Andruil and Falon'Din and I think Dirthamen...If so, do we know what they are? Maybe one of them had a lion or something and it's just being passed off as Celene's family's. Maybe I'm completely wrong and it's a human design that is on Solas's card just becaue. I don't know, I'm not  a lore person. It's 6 AM here now, I think I'll try sleeping. Good [insert time of day adjective to correspond to your time-zone here].

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Elgar'nan: God of Vengeance Edit
Elgarnan- God of Vengeance
Elgar'nan: God of Vengeance
(ell-GAR-nan)

Long ago, when time itself was young, the only things in existence were the sun and the land. The sun, curious about the land, bowed his head close to her body, and Elgar'nan was born in the place where they touched. As a gift to Elgar'nan, the land brought forth great birds and beasts of sky and forest, and all manner of wonderful green things.
—From Codex entry: Elgar'nan: God of Vengeance
Elgar'nan--also known as the All-Father, the Eldest of the Sun and He Who Overthrew His Father[9]--represents fatherhood and vengeance, and leads the pantheon with the goddess Mythal. He was the first of the elven gods, born of the sun and the earth. According to elven legend, the sun grew jealous of the favor shown by Elgar'nan for the things of the earth, and so burned them to ashes. In retaliation, Elgar'nan threw the sun down from the sky, and only later relented because of Mythal's intervention. He was convinced, with her help, to restore his father to the sky on the promise that the sun would set each night.[9] With the aid of Mythal and his parents, Elgar'nan remade the world. Most elves will invoke Elgar'nan's name when they need to destroy something.

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Mythal: the Great Protector Edit

Mythal- the Great Protector
Mythal: the Great Protector
(mith-al)

It was at this moment that Mythal walked out of the sea of the Earth's tears and onto the land. She placed her hand on Elgar'nan's brow, and at her touch he grew calm and knew that his anger had led him astray.
—From Codex entry: Mythal: the Great Protector
Mythal, the Protector and the All-Mother, and goddess of love[10], is the patron of motherhood and justice and leads the pantheon with her male counterpart, Elgar'nan. In elven legend, when Elgar'nan threw the sun out of the sky in vengeance for burning the earth to ashes, Mythal calmed him and helped him see that he was wrong. Elgar'nan was convinced to free the sun. On the first night after the sun was released Mythal created the moon, from the glowing earth round its bed, to be placed in the sky as a pale reflection of the sun's true glory.[9] Elves will invoke Mythal's name when they require protection. In the past, they also petitioned her on matters of justice and it is said that those who came to her with clear minds and open hearts were granted judgment and protection; Mythal harried their enemies until the end of their days. While those who tried to manipulate her wrath against those they envied or were being petty over imagined slights were swiftly struck down.[11]

Spoiler

According to an inscription in the Temple of Mythal, however, in addition to the halla, Ghilan'nain had created many other creatures -- giants, monsters, and beasts that spanned across the sky, water, and earth. These creatures Ghilan'nain killed after Andruil approached her with an offer for apotheosis -- all except a few, with the halla being one of them. She thus became known as the youngest elven god.

 

[Shari'El]

Ah this was discussed a while ago... let me try to recall... 

> 9 stars on Solas card = 9 members of the Pantheon

> Sun = Elgar'nan

> Moon = Andruil

> Water = Mythal

> 4 dots = ? 

Yeah we figured it represented Solas' buddies - and since the Winter Palace (aka Halamshiral) was once a place of significance for ancient elves, it follows that pattern would pop up. Or the designers could simply be reusing a pattern /shrug.

 

 

I think that if they were reusing a pattern they wouldn't have bothered on changing the moon/sun/waves to dots.

I just noticed the dots are different. In the orlesian carpet the 4 dots are surrounded by 4 smaller dots, looks a bit like a flower.

 

Actually that is the only connection I see of the dots to an element, it looks like a flower XD.

[Janic99]

I think that if they were reusing a pattern they wouldn't have bothered on changing the moon/sun/waves to dots.

I just noticed the dots are different. In the orlesian carpet the 4 dots are surrounded by 4 smaller dots, looks a bit like a flower.

 

Actually that is the only connection I see of the dots to an element, it looks like a flower XD.

Agree.. flower.. nature.. I would say land

[Addai]

That's a pretty amazing find. There's no way that could be meaningless, right? The circular patterns are exactly the same. It has to at least be an elven thing or something? With the lion on there it probably represents Celene's family...Maybe this is an in game example of cultural appropriation or something (I'm joking, really, but we didn't get to wear elven armor as a human and we didn't get to ride a halla at all. There had to be something). 

 

This is just a really out there guess, but perhaps whatever is on that carpet is actually elven and instead of a lion's face there is supposed to be a wolf's face or something (since Solas is kind of in the lion's place it might be a Fen'Harel thing). Maybe all the gods had carpet designs like this with their favored animal. Do we know if all the elven panetheon had favored animals? I know of Andruil and Falon'Din and I think Dirthamen...If so, do we know what they are? Maybe one of them had a lion or something and it's just being passed off as Celene's family's. Maybe I'm completely wrong and it's a human design that is on Solas's card just becaue. I don't know, I'm not  a lore person. It's 6 AM here now, I think I'll try sleeping. Good [insert time of day adjective to correspond to your time-zone here].

It would make sense that the Orlesians took over elven symbology. This is Halamshiral, after all- the elven capital of the Dales.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Janic99]

Best of Solas.. warning SPOILERS haha

[Janic99]

Anyone remember the number of members that belong to Forgotten One's pantheon? Was it three or four?

for they are the Forgotten Ones, the gods of terror and malice, spite and pestilence.

[Sister Squish]

See, I'd say:

Flame: Sylaise
Sun: Elgar'nan
Moon: Mythal

Totally agree with the 9 Stars, 9 members of the pantheon.
...

Wait. Guys. Are those are constellations in the background of his card?

I need to figure out what those are if that's true.

 

Haha constellations?  

So Flame = Sylaise, Sun = Elgar'nan? Right. 

And Moon is difficult - the codex tales refer to Mythal "creating" the moon, but Andruil is "sister" to the moon. Sister to Mythal? 

 

I think that if they were reusing a pattern they wouldn't have bothered on changing the moon/sun/waves to dots.

I just noticed the dots are different. In the orlesian carpet the 4 dots are surrounded by 4 smaller dots, looks a bit like a flower.

 

Actually that is the only connection I see of the dots to an element, it looks like a flower XD.

 

Would certainly be interesting if the repeated 4 dots is intentional - perhaps alluding to a previous inhabitant of Halamshiral. 

[LliiraAnna]

Anyone remember the number of members that belong to Forgotten One's pantheon? Was it three or four?

Only in dreams do we hear whispered the names of Geldauran and Daern'thal and Anaris, for they are the Forgotten Ones, the gods of terror and malice, spite and pestilence.

—From Codex entry: Fen'Harel: The Dread Wolf

 

So, three 

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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