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[Eivuwan]

Help meee... :'( Please!

I know the question was asked before, but I can't for the life of me find the friggin' plan for Solas' armour. The one with the pelt over one shoulder. From the wallpapers. Soneone said an Emprise dragon would drop it, but I already killed them.

Help a pack member out! 

 

It's the battlemage mail and you can only find it by farming tier 3 loot boxes. Google tier 3 schematic farming for the most convenient locations. You have to leave one or more items in the box. Reload and loot again until it shows up.

[Eivuwan]

No. I don't remember exactly what he says, but it's something to the effect of "we should just remain allies, nothing more". I think he just can't love a Lavellan that would be so callous towards him and his friend. It completely shreds any hope of him having a relationship with you.

 

That makes sense.

[BoscoBread]

Help meee... :'( Please!

I know the question was asked before, but I can't for the life of me find the friggin' plan for Solas' armour. The one with the pelt over one shoulder. From the wallpapers. Soneone said an Emprise dragon would drop it, but I already killed them.

Help a pack member out! 

Tier 3 chest - but I also got the armor(Not the plan) from Fade during the Adamant quest. 

[TheComfyCat]

 

No. I don't remember exactly what he says, but it's something to the effect of "we should just remain allies, nothing more". I think he just can't love a Lavellan that would be so callous towards him and his friend. It completely shreds any hope of him having a relationship with you.

 

I wonder if it's tied to approval level, or your actions in his personal quest. Has anyone tested it?

[Vita Brevis]

I don't think he sees you as a replacement for that spirit. If I remember correctly, I got his second kiss before his personal quest? Maybe I'm remembering wrong but I don't think it's dependent on that. Solas just admires wisdom as a trait in general and I wouldn't assume anything else beyond that.

Not as a replacement, but the first thing - is his "gravestone", then this little thing about the spirit. Seems lonely as hell and I started to think maybe that's the reason he even noticed pc at all.

 

Nothing in that romance made me feel like Solas loved you for any other reason than he actually loves you. For example, I think his whole questioning about the mark changing you during his balcony scene is him trying to find an easy answer for why he feels the way he does about you. If the mark didn't alter you, it means he found someone wise and beautiful and worthwhile on their own merit in the modern world, which we know he struggles with. I've seen theories that he thinks you're a replacement for something or that you have some kind of spirit in you and that's why he cares but I think all that is reaching, personally.

 

Also, the romance is a complete two-way street. You initiate the flirting but Solas returns it just as strongly. You grab him to kiss him but then he grabs you to kiss you again. Every time he seems like he's trying to pull away, it's clear that he doesn't actually want to. It takes the tiniest nudge before he's back to you again. Also, when he asks for time to think after the first kiss you grant it to him and, after that thinking time, he decides on the balcony to bring the kiss up again. That means he made his choice, albeit tentatively. I don't like this idea that Lavellan "coerced" him into the romance and then gets what she asked for.

Well I guess it's a valid point. I had a hard time trying to figure what he sees in "us". But even if half of that is what he feels I guess it's not so bad after all. 

[Sylvanfeather]

So with this discussion about lyrium and dwarves, some more of my crazy speculation...

What if Elgar'nan was the one to betray Mythal? He decided he wanted absolute power and set out to get rid of the rest of the pantheon. But he didn’t plan to outright murder them. Instead he poisoned the lyrium, corrupting and tricking the Gods - who we actually suspect may be are powerful mages - with red lyrium.

[This continues with my theory about the betrayal of Mythal, working with Fen’Harel to quarantine the rest of the pantheon to protect them.]

But! What if at least one other member of the pantheon sought another method to protect themselves from Elgar’nan and his poisoned lyrium? He (because I’m speculating this was June), found a way to cut himself off from the Fade, the need for lyrium, and his followers/slaves followed suit. It was this break resulted in the dwarven race.

Solas: Dwarves are the severed arm of a once mighty hero, lying in a pool of blood, undirected, whatever skill at arms it had gone forever. Although it might twitch to give the appearance of life, it will never dream.

This is not just a metaphor or a bit of history Solas is sharing. He knows exactly who that mighty hero was. It was one of his contemporaries, a member of the pantheon who took drastic measures to save himself from the corruption that would taint their blood..

Solas: Are there many tricksters in dwarven literature?
Varric: A handful, but they're the exception. Mostly they're just honoring the ancestors. It's very dull stuff. Human literature? Now there's where you'll find the tricky, clever, really deceptive types.
Solas: Curious.
 
The banter doesn’t just serve as a wink and a nod to the player about his true identity. Solas is actually trying to find out if he specifically - or at least a reference to his persona - is counted among the ancestors in dwarven histories. If one of the pantheon created the dwarven race, the Ancestors could very well be the one and the same as the Elven Gods.
 

Then further down the rabbit hole... it's interesting to speculate if Elgar'nan, Mythal, Fen'Harel and whoever turned Dwarven Ancestor, were not imprisoned, that leaves 8 other Gods who were (including the Forgotten Ones). Coincidentally, rumour has it that there could be one lost Old God making a total of 8 Old Gods... Further, further down is Elgar'nan really the Maker, which ties in the theory about Mythal/Andrasta. You should probably turn back now, my ideas are getting to be too crazy.

[BoscoBread]

which vallaslins did you guys take for your characters? 

June's.  Purely based on looks. 

[Mims]

 

 

I love June's vallaslin. It's just so pretty, and I like how it goes around her eyes as well.

 

That is my favorite part of that design. I tried to make the makeup match, so it looked like the tattoo went all the way to the eyes. Makes for a nice effect.

[Wheels]

It's the battlemage mail and you can only find it by farming tier 3 loot boxes. Google tier 3 schematic farming for the most convenient locations. You have to leave one or more items in the box. Reload and loot again until it shows up.

 

 

Tier 3 chest - but I also got the armor(Not the plan) from Fade during the Adamant quest. 

 

Thank you...

It's so frustrating when you just can't find it, argh!

[LliiraAnna]

which vallaslins did you guys take for your characters? 

Mythal. Since my Lav was the one who got the Well, it was fitting 

[Nika]

I think it would be interesting to know if Solas always admires/loves a female Lavellan even if you don't pursue him, or if something happens during the romance which makes her "special"
'Cause if you romance Sera it kind of seems like he was interested in Lavellan too

[Vita Brevis]

'Cause if you romance Sera it kind of seems like he was interested in Lavellan too 

How so?

[Sylvanfeather]

which vallaslins did you guys take for your characters? 

 

June (alt.), for bolder lines. Which will be my canon Lavellan appearance.

 

[mindoirs]

I used Ghilan'nain's for my quizzy~

 

June's is the prettiest imo. Andruil is my favorite pantheon member but I don't like her vallaslin.

[ReddInTheCities]

I love your Quizzy's facial structure so much!

[Kittn]

This was what I came up with the last time we talked about his tarot card

I know I'm about 30 pages behind but I've figured this whole Tarot card thing out. Probably.
 

 

See here we have Clockwise, from top left: Fire, Wind, Water, Earth. Solas's shows Sun (fire), Moon (wind/tide), Water, Clover (Earth). Clearly, this means that Solas is the Fifth Element. Supreme being. Fen'harel Multi Pass.

 

 

I'll be here all week, folks.

 

Oh, that starburst light behind him looks identical to the one he has that fades in and out during combat. I believe its the peaceful aura because it only shows up when enemies are around, but it could be something uniquely Solas? I have no way of testing right now. Here's a terrible screenshot of it:

 

Spoiler

 

[phaonica]

I think it would be interesting to know if Solas always admires/loves a female Lavellan even if you don't pursue him, or if something happens during the romance which makes her "special"
'Cause if you romance Sera it kind of seems like he was interested in Lavellan too

 

It's interesting to watch videos of non-Lavellan Inquisitors talking to Solas because you can get an idea of what Solas finds interesting about the Inquisitor without the romance bias.

[LliiraAnna]

I think it would be interesting to know if Solas always admires/loves a female Lavellan even if you don't pursue him, or if something happens during the romance which makes her "special"
'Cause if you romance Sera it kind of seems like he was interested in Lavellan too

On my first PT, I failed to romance him properly and he and my Lav were just friends. All the scenes (save for the last one) remain the same, kissing and a few flirt options aside.

[BoscoBread]

Not as a replacement, but the first thing - is his "gravestone", then this little thing about the spirit. Seems lonely as hell and I started to think maybe that's the reason he even noticed pc at all.

 

Well I guess it's a valid point. I had a hard time trying to figure what he sees in "us". But even if half of that is what he feels I guess it's not so bad after all. 

I get that - the romance writing is a bit 'thin'.  Not terrible, but there could have maybe been more to establish what he felt. I think it requires the players to pour a lot more of their imaginations into not just the physical aspect of the relationship - which is whatever  - but the emotional aspect as well.  I think that any relationship with Solas would be intensely emotional - the physical aspect being so negligible to the point of being meaningless to him.  The game  asks the player to fill that in with their imagined Lavellan which is kind of a lot.  LIke you're roleplaying as the other party in a ridiculously emotional and intense affair.

 

As Mims said above - what he sees in Lavellan - on a basic level is that she's principled, has purpose, and is thoughtful.  On a more complex level, return to the above paragraph - it's however you roleplay your Lavellan to be and how deep the relationship goes.

 

Final note - I do NOT think Solas was coerced into the relationship.  Lavellan has no idea what he is and that he intends to leave.  She flirts because she likes him. He responds.  It's an adult relationship.  It's how people work...

[Sable Rhapsody]

I get that - the romance writing is a bit 'thin'.  Not terrible, but there could have maybe been more to establish what he felt. I think it requires the players to pour a lot more of their imaginations into not just the physical aspect of the relationship - which is whatever  - but the emotional aspect as well. 

 

This is pretty much why I'm back on the fanfiction wagon.  There's so much I want to fill in.  For example, Cullen talks to quizzy about his family; it would make sense that Solas doesn't, but do they ever talk about Lavellan's family and clan?  If they do have sex, what is it like?  What are the little funny quirks that they have to get used to?  What would it be like to dream with Solas, especially for a non-mage quizzy?

 

What is there is incredibly well written; I think Solas has the best quality-to-quantity ratio of any BioWare romance I've played.  I'm just a greedy, insatiable fangirl who wants more elven god 

[madrar]

Solas: Dwarves are the severed arm of a once mighty hero, lying in a pool of blood, undirected, whatever skill at arms it had gone forever. Although it might twitch to give the appearance of life, it will never dream.

 

See, this is the quote that makes me doubt the Thedas-as-God-Dragon-egg theory.  The "once mighty hero" just doesn't fit as a metaphor.

 

*blinks for a moment, then starts laughing hysterically*

 

Maternal antibodies.  

 

GAIDER. 

 

*lies down on the floor, still laughing*

[Illyria]

Oh, sorry.

 

Yeah, mine's not that unique. I'm TERRIBLE with CC, so after four days of struggling I just used Default Head #3 and made her jaw and chin smaller, her pigment paler, her hair messier, and her tree vallaslin paler and more fanned out. Not unique, but at least she fit the "snow-white and ice-cold mystical waif" I imagined, and wasn't ugly to look at all game. 

 

No, it's fine!  I'm just amused because a lot of what you write about the game is also how I feel about it, so I'm amused that our Lavellans also look alike.  We even have the same reason for picking the Mythal vallislin!

 

that sounded less werid in my head.