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I wonder if it's tied to approval level, or your actions in his personal quest. Has anyone tested it?

 

 

I'm pretty sure it's tied to your actions during the quest, not your approval level. It's the response I got from being a jerk the whole way through. That is, telling him you don't want to help a spirit, saying you're there to help the mages, saying it's a demon not a friend, saying it's a monster that needs to be put down, and generally acting like you don't even care that's it's his friend or that saving it is a possiblity.

 

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That is, telling him you don't want to help a spirit, saying you're there to help the mages, saying it's a demon not a friend, saying it's a monster that needs to be put down, and generally acting like you don't even care that's it's his friend or that saving it is a possiblity.

 

Ow, my heart  :crying:   Add that to the list of Dragon Age things I could never bring myself to do, not even for science.  I'm going to go cuddle a kitty now.


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I'm pretty sure it's tied to your actions during the quest, not your approval level. It's the response I got from being a jerk the whole way through. That is, telling him you don't want to help a spirit, saying you're there to help the mages, saying it's a demon not a friend, saying it's a monster that needs to be put down, and generally acting like you don't even care that's it's his friend or that saving it is a possiblity.

 

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Going this path is kind of sad isn't it? Solas was probably disappointed. He kissed you during the haven scene and then he found out that you were a dick after all. And he thinks to himself that he can only trust himself in this world.


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I'm pretty sure it's tied to your actions during the quest, not your approval level. It's the response I got from being a jerk the whole way through. That is, telling him you don't want to help a spirit, saying you're there to help the mages, saying it's a demon not a friend, saying it's a monster that needs to be put down, and generally acting like you don't even care that's it's his friend or that saving it is a possiblity.

Ooof.  That's almost as bad as the kicked puppy walk if your break up with him the grove and that line 'Even in this your surprise me' - he is HEARTBROKEN.  I literally don't have it in me to be mean to people in these games - not just LI.  I just want to be loved.


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which vallaslins did you guys take for your characters? 

 

Enalen AKA Tiger Festival ended up with Dirthamen, even though I thought it was Falon'din when I made her. Fitting. She has secrets. Not as world shattering as the ones Solas has, but they're there. I already posted this in the bad screenshots thread, but here she is attempting the People's Eyebrow.

 

There needs to be a Dalish word for that.

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For my next Lavellan, who will be modeled after EQ's Shenshen, I think I will go for Ghilan'nain or Sylaise based on the Elfquest character's humble, but important occupation as a midwife. Uncertain of how it will end up looking. I'll be sure to post a shot of her when I start working on her playthrough.

 

Which may be real soon, because I'm getting closer to the part where Tiger is going to get her poor little heart crushed, so I am procrastinating progression. Every little metal deposit is more important now. No, we can't go to the ball until I find more fade-touched Obsidian, Leliana. So there.


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Going this path is kind of sad isn't it? Solas was probably disappointed. He kissed you during the haven scene and then he found out that you were a dick after all. And he thinks to himself that he can only trust himself in this world.

 

He's just so damn polite about it too. Like it's not even worth showing how upset he is or trying to explain it to you, because it's so obvious that you don't understand him and he can only trust himself. :crying:


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He's just so damn polite about it too. Like it's not even worth showing how upset he is or trying to explain it to you, because it's so obvious that you don't understand him and he can only trust himself. :crying:

 

I'm out of likes for the day sigh.



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Oh my god, Zerebus.  You just made the pieces click for me.  I could hug you!!

 

Cole: A war in the Fade, waged with human hatred. (Shudders.) I should never want to see that.
Solas: It would be a terrible thing.
Cole: It was wrong to hide it in the child. It hurt her.

 

The actual movie reference is Prophecy, but the in-game connection is probably what the Stone is, which would mean that what we know of as Thedas... the actual planet... is a dragon egg.  Literally.  A God-dragon egg.  Mythal's, to be specific.  And the Void was placed at the very center of it.  The Child's body is literally acting as a prison for the Sun, which as we know is leaking blight- like an infection, hurting her, though her Dwarven "immune system" is fighting it.  

 

Holy crap.  Thank you.  The whole "Mythal is the Earth, but the actual planet can't be made of her physical corpse because it's still somewhat alive" thing was driving me nuts.   This fits.   I like it.   Yes.

 

My God, though.  That would make the Fade the Child's soul.  And that.... I mean.... this is getting very....

 

*lies down on the floor*

 

I think this is far too politically incorrect for BioWare to ever ever go there.  Unfortunately, such is the world we live in today.  :(


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Ellana... recreated.. I changed her lips a little smaller and just put that Halla Vallaslin



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I'm pretty sure it's tied to your actions during the quest, not your approval level. It's the response I got from being a jerk the whole way through. That is, telling him you don't want to help a spirit, saying you're there to help the mages, saying it's a demon not a friend, saying it's a monster that needs to be put down, and generally acting like you don't even care that's it's his friend or that saving it is a possiblity.

 

That quest struck me on how ignorant mages in the Circle can be, considering it's the Chantry teaching and restricting everything. I'm sure there are other mages like Rhys for example that learned more; but that particular mage in Solas' quest was like "I know all about this ****, I was the lead scholar!" (paraphrase) 

 

I was like:

 

O_O Shut up shut up shut up SHUT UP MY FRIEND WILL BLAST YOUR FACE OFF IF YOU DON'T SHUT IT.

Solas: Shut. Up.

Me: 

Mark-Bill-Hader-Down-As-Scared-On-Saturd

No really dude you need to leave before he tears you a new one. 


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I get that - the romance writing is a bit 'thin'.  Not terrible, but there could have maybe been more to establish what he felt. I think it requires the players to pour a lot more of their imaginations into not just the physical aspect of the relationship - which is whatever  - but the emotional aspect as well.  I think the romance with Solas would be intensely emotional - the physical aspect being so negligible to the point of being meaningless to him.  The game  asks the player to fill that in with their imagined Lavellan which is kind of a lot.  LIke you're roleplaying as the other party in a ridiculously emotional and intense romance. 

 

As Mims said above - what he sees in Lavellan - on a basic level is that she's principled, has purpose, and is thoughtful.  On a more complex level, return to the above paragraph - it's however you roleplay your Lavellan to be and how deep the relationship goes.

 

Final note - I do NOT think Solas was coerced into the relationship.  Lavellan has no idea what he is and that he intends to leave.  She flirts because she likes him. He responds.  It's an adult relationship.  It's how people work...

 

Personally, I'm all for this. I love headcanon. I love fleshing out my character's background, motivations, personality and quirks beyond just what's shown in the game. I see the game as the basic skeletal structure of the character, while my imagination fleshes it out and fills in all the details. 

 

I also love imagining why my character and LI love each other, beyond what's just shown in the game. If it's all shown scene-for-scene in the game, the reason Solas claims to love "you, exactly as you are" would be the exact same reason he claims to love any Lavellan. Then it wouldn't feel like he loves your character for who she is as a unique individual; that he could love any elven female plopped down in front of him.

 

Solas mentions on the balcony, right before the second kiss, that you a wisdom and subtly he hasn't seen since... since before his deepest journeys into the Fade, and he'll say that few act with such understanding of the world around them. Since he also approves of you being kind and helpful toward others, I think Lavellan's wisdom and kindness (and confidence and surety) are the central skeletal reasons, while the other reasons not mentioned in game are all the traits that make your character unique in your mind.

 

All the unique personality traits and quirks you can headcanon your Lavellan having that other people's characters might not have (like a habit of chewing her lower lip, or tucking a stray hair behind her ear when she's nervous, or what have you) are traits that you can imagine he finds just as precious in your characters as the mandatory traits all Inquisitors must have just for being in the game. (Like that air of surety and confidence that everyone in the game says you have that makes people follow you, even if your Inquisitor secretly has no idea what s/he's doing.)

 

I like headcanon. I don't mind that the romance isn't fleshed out completely in the game, so I can flesh it out in my own mind.


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He's just so damn polite about it too. Like it's not even worth showing how upset he is or trying to explain it to you, because it's so obvious that you don't understand him and he can only trust himself. :crying:

Damn, right in the feels...



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which vallaslins did you guys take for your characters? 

 

I try to make my characters look like the concept art.  So female mage Lavellan has Mythal, and male archer Lavellan has Falon'Din.  I was hoping his was Dirthamen since I imagined him more of a sneaky scout than a bullseye specialist, but I can go with "death from above" instead.


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Taking a momentary break to SQUEE!!! My new place has HDTV... I can READ ALL THE THINGS!!!! <3 <3 <3

So of course I immediately restarted the game with my favorite Lavellan.

Bliss. I am resolute in my determination to ignore inevitable heartbreak.

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Personally, I'm all for this. I love headcanon. I love fleshing out my character's background, motivations, personality and quirks beyond just what's shown in the game. I see the game as the basic skeletal structure of the character, while my imagination fleshes it out and fills in all the details. 

 

I also love imagining why my character and LI love each other, beyond what's just shown in the game. If it's all shown scene-for-scene in the game, the reason Solas claims to love "you, exactly as you are" would be the exact same reason he claims to love any Lavellan. Then it wouldn't feel like he loves your character for who she is as a unique individual; that he could love any elven female plopped down in front of him.

 

Solas mentions on the balcony, right before the second kiss, that you a wisdom and subtly he hasn't seen since... since before his deepest journeys into the Fade, and he'll say that few act with such understanding of the world around them. Since he also approves of you being kind and helpful toward others, I think Lavellan's wisdom and kindness (and confidence and surety) are the central skeletal reasons, while the other reasons not mentioned in game are all the traits that make your character unique in your mind.

 

All the unique personality traits and quirks you can headcanon your Lavellan having that other people's characters might not have (like a habit of chewing her lower lip, or tucking a stray hair behind her ear when she's nervous, or what have you) are traits that you can imagine he finds just as precious in your characters as the mandatory traits all Inquisitors must have just for being in the game. (Like that air of surety and confidence that everyone in the game says you have that makes people follow you, even if your Inquisitor secretly has no idea what s/he's doing.)

 

I like headcanon. I don't mind that the romance isn't fleshed out completely in the game, so I can flesh it out in my own mind.

 

So he loves my Atisha for sing talking at people and liking the smell of dog feet...


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My Lavellan wears Dirthamen's,pretty much as intended.She's very thirsty for knowledge and she's rather secretive when it comes to some situations,no wonder her prefered approach is usually Leliana's.

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I based her looks on some sketches and drawings I made of her,but she reminds me too much of an actress,although I can't remember whom.
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So he loves my Atisha for sing talking at people and liking the smell of dog feet...

 

If you so wish to see it that way, why not?

 

(Then again, people don't have to love EVERYTHING about each other.)


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So he loves my Atisha for sing talking at people and liking the smell of dog feet...

 

Okay, liking the smell of dog feet I'm totally on board for.  Mine kind of smell like corn chips in a way.

 

I also love the smell of a horse's coat.


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I like headcanon. I don't mind that the romance isn't fleshed out completely in the game, so I can flesh it out in my own mind.

 

I agree! To me, that's always been the charm of bioware games. They lend themselves to a lot of creativity and imagination as you take a step back and wonder what happens during the 'lull' times of the story, or what your character might have done differently. I don't even think that it is entirely limited to just romance. I often find myself thinking about 'firsts' that Lavellan is possibly experiencing. Eating strange foods, sleeping in a real bed. There's no gameplay reason to explore those routes. But it is still fun to speculate and think about.

 

Solas's romance is particularly good for speculation, since we as the audience know a lot more about Solas than Lavellan does. Even whether or not they were every intimate is left open to interpretation- and there's plenty of good responses for each character on how they view that part of the relationship. 


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For my elves I alway go for "the smaller, the better" Vallaslin. What can I say, my characters aren't very Dalish. I still haven't forgiven them for how they treated my Warden Tabris and Surana...

 

Darel (remade, I like her, she is my first Inquisitor, but since I got a little better on the CC, and bugs prevented me from doing Dorian's and some others missions...I just made her again. Now she is a little less childlike. I will not play her soon, I'll play first my Qunari lady) rogue, two blades.

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and Amrod, male elf mage.

 

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If you so wish to see it that way, why not?

 

(Then again, people don't have to love EVERYTHING about each other.)

 

I'm totally fine with that, I think he probably finds the sing talking endearing and the penchant for the scent of dog feet...earthy and grounded?



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I just periodically pop into this thread to complain about my Solas heartbreak and update everyone on my DA adventures.

 

I'm on my first runthrough of DA2 and I'm playing a Mage romancing Anders. I know what happens in the end but I'm still getting all giddy and happy about their romance (they just did the do and awwww). Apostate mage love 4 life.


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So umm...I'm bit nervous about this. Power was out for a couple of hours and I had the chance to play around with Photoshop. I'm a bit rusty , so I beg your forgiveness.
My Lavellan got herself a new wig and some botox. Confusing and barely sufficient  Photoshop skills ahoy:
 
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oh I wonder If I really want to play this whole game all over again right away XD it is just so long.. so much to do.. I do love it though haha



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Damn it! I just love the Lavellan more I made first time.. Idk she looks almost the same but XD Idk maybe it is because it was my first gameplay.. so I guess I'll just keep her =__=''


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If you watch carefully you can see the small lighter mythal's vallaslin on her cheecks haha

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