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I hope I'm not imagining things but I remember seeing it in one of the trailers.  Maybe I dreamed it.  I think it was the same one that Solas is speaking in for a bit of it.  

 

edit:

 

this one?

 

 

The scene is a little different though.

 

Thanks! Yes, it does look a little different. :)

 

 

 

EDIT:

Capricorn, it's a GIF of the scene from the Prologue where the party climbs the mountain to make their way to the Breach.  :)

 

I think this scene is actually in the game?  I remember seeing it...  It's during the prologue where you either choose to charge ahead or take the side path.  I've done both, so I don't remember which one it would be exactly.

 

Oh okay then! I always chose to charge ahead instead of taking the path to the mountains for both my playthrough so I never saw this scene.

 

Thanks guys! :D



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I cannot believe that I hadn't even considered Coryfish-as-Larius until you said that.  I've been trying to figure out why Solas took one look at the blight corrupted magister and went 'yup.  Seems trustworthy.'

 

And this is after

Spoiler

 

Ok ok, I'm catching up to the thread and saw this comment.

 

After dealing with Cory, he possess either Janeka or Larius, whoever left alive.

Bianca contacts a Grey Warden mage after she finds out red lyrium is blighted lyrium -> that Grey Warden is the one you met in legacy and left alive. Varric deduced that whoever she met was possessed by Cory after he's been 'killed' by Hawke.

 

Sooo... This raises a lot of questions.

When did this happen, on timeline?

How long did Cory walk around looking like a (relatively) normal human?

If Solas met Cory while he was wearing another person's skin, why would he give him the orb (he would meet a simple mage)?

Solas wouldn't have given the orb to just some power hungry mage, so how did Cory convice him? (Though not looking like a hideous monster would help Solas make said stupid decision)

 

What do you think Cory did with the red lyrium?

Cory's appearance changed a bit between DA2 & DAI -> the lyrium shards that were sticking out of his body turned red.

So... Did he ingest the red lyrium?

Was he infected by touch? That'll be weird, Cory already had the blight after all  :unsure:

 

I personally think that Cory's appearance was heavily altered by high dosage of lyrium, the blight then added to his creepiness.

You can see that by how red lyrium affected the templar vs how blight affects.. whoever contacted it. Blight doesn't cause mutation, it creates a ghoul, gives the contacted person a sickly looking skin and cataract-like eyes. Lyrium just grows out of people (why? It makes me think about radioactive mutations from uranium, lyrium looks a lot like Torbernite  :P. Lyrium does explode, makes me think of atomic bombs [uranium isn't explosive, obviously, but it's still amusing to me]), and it was already been said that the ancient magisters underwent physical mutation because of large dosage of lyrium. 

 

 

The magister lords of the Tevinter Imperium were widely reputed to have been so affected by their years of lyrium use that they could not be recognized by their own kin, nor even as creatures that had once been human.

 

 

This makes you ask - what does the blight do to lyrium? Maybe it just reallyyyyyyyyyy enhances it's powers, lyrium is dangerous on it's own, if you increase its' power tenfold it would be deadly. Why does lyrium, if so, reacts to blight in that manner?

 

And what is the taint? There is what you discover in the Warden's Keep DLC, [which I remember only vaguely so] I took an excerpt from the DA wiki:

 

 

The darkspawn taint also carries magical power equivalent to lyrium, and allows darkspawn emissaries to cast spells. In the Warden's Keep DLC, Avernus reveals that through his research, he has discovered a way to use the taint in Grey Warden blood to cast powerful magic without the use of lyrium or spirits. He tells that the taint holds greater power than known. Even non-mage Wardens can access this power, since all Wardens carry the darkspawn taint.

 

 

So... Taint has magical properties, this, in turn, enhances the lyrium, which is alive. Besides that, the taint seems to act like an accelerator of some sort - the darkspawn don't have healers, their wounds heal quickly. They can even sprout missing limbs given enough time. Crackpot theory: maybe what the taint does it accelerate time within a person? The sickly skin, the cataract, dementia, maybe they experience time faster, which causes them to grow mad? (Makes me think of Zero: Virtue's last reward)

 

This makes me think Cory ingested the red lyrium himself in order to enhance his powers and, also, that lyrium doesn't get infected that easily by the blight (Cory had the blight for thousands of years, his lyrium shards retained their blue-ness throughout the entire time). Perhaps he needed to consume red lyrium so he'll be able to unlock the orb Solas gave him.


The farther one is from the fade, the better he deals with raw lyrium. Mages that come in contact with raw lyrium will die, this is probably because the raw lyrium enhances one's abilities so much that he can no longer contain them... Cory's measured doses of non-raw lyrium for a long duration of time made him an powerful abomination, enhancing his.. magic.. circulation.. whatever, integrating lyrium to him bones, and making him ageless (like the elves were in the time of Arlathan).
 

I haven't read the calling but

Spoiler

 

Do you think that the fact the the magisters are (sort of).. Immune.. to the taint is because they consumed massive amount of normal lyrium?

Cory is clear minded & eloquent & he can 'speak' the calling... Maybe not unlike the Elvhen gods? Mythal can body hop as well, maybe Cory was closer to being a god than he imagined, and if so lyrium is the key for that (he was nothing more than a powerful mage at the beginning of his time), even if it made him an abomination in the process.

Lyrium sings afterall, so a person who ingests heavy doses of lyrium (through a long period of time) and gets the taint... Can sing into the mind of the tainted. Makes perfect sense TBH, especially since the taint connects the mind of the darkspawn.

Cory didn't control the 'singing' at first, he 'sang' in his slumber. That strengthens what Bianca said about lyrium being alive (in some manner), a non living organism can't become part of someone and function on its' own, so lyrium must be alive, but where does it come from? What gives it life? What gives it the ability to sing? Through what does it sing? Maybe it sings directly to the souls of people? 

 

Crackpot theory: perhaps lyrium is the fade manifested in the 'real' world, it holds its' connection to the fade, so it speaks to the souls of people. Maybe it is heard as a song because it speaks to the soul, and not to the body/mind of the person, and if you were more connected to the fade/to your spirit you'd understand its' song.


 

Maybe all this means that since lyrium connects one to the fade more easily then those connected to the fade can deal/are immune to the taint? This, in turn, means that a person who is connected to the fade can connect with other's spirits more easily, read them, manipulate them, 'sing' to them.

 

Also! Darkspawn search for the old gods, they 'sing' to them, not unlike Cory. So wouldn't it mean that the old gods are already tainted? Maybe the only thing the darkspawn do is awaken them, like Hawke awakened Cory. Perhaps the old gods were imprisoned, like Cory was. Cory's like the old gods in more ways - the archdemons can body hop, they body hop into another tainted being if killed. 

 

So following this line of thought - we have the Elvhen pantheon, some sort of mages with extraordinary connection to the fade, this includes... the Forgotten Ones.

The Forgotten Ones being the Old Gods is something that has been brought up here a lot, and it makes sense to me. While there may be only 3 Forgotten One names that are known, there were more (they are called forgotten for a reason). So.. If the Forgotten Ones had the connection to the fade like their counterparts, they would be able to 'sing', and if they are tainted.. Well... They could sing to darkspawn. Since the Old Gods can speak to dreamers, and the Forgotten Ones are the Old Gods by that theory, it suggests it's because of their strong connection to the fade, and that the 'song' can be interpreted when another is connected to the fade.

 

Super crackpot theory:

Since it seems like the Forgotten Ones are aspects of the Elvhen pantheon, then, perhaps, they are great dragons (ancient, powerful dragons) on which soul parts of the Elvhen gods were forced upon (or not forced, maybe they made a deal). They were also the source of the gods power, both allowing them to body hop, as well as giving them power.

 

 

The blood of Great dragons can confer enormous power. According to Aurelian Titus in Dragon Age: Until We Sleep, the Dreamers of ancient times commanded The Fade. The last Tevinter magisters were close to reclaiming this power, and "All they needed was the blood of the Great dragons."[2] He further states, "With it, I have tapped the power of gods."

 

 

Perhaps, even, the Forgotten Ones were entirely controlled by the Elvhen pantheon, and were there to keep the people in check, terror is a great way to scare someone to submission... And it could be untrue as well - the great dragons are not high dragons, perhaps they resisted the control of the Elvhen pantheon and wage war against them because they want to get entirely free from their geas.

As for Andruil, who wanted to hunt the Forgotten Ones, we already know she was nuts, but what if her reason for hunting the Forgotten Ones is to make the other gods fall? If she kills the Forgotten Ones the gods lose their powers.

The reason I think all my rambling are reasonable is because the voices of the well managed to recognize the fact Cory uses his dragon to allow him to body hop, it's plausible they were aware of that because they knew such thing exists. The voices are the will and knowledge of priests of Mythal, they aren't all knowing, there is a reason for them to say with such certainty that Cory's dragon needs to go down.


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#52253
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Spoiler

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Oh, I agree the community can be harsh and the duty finder can be a cesspool of jackassery at the best of times, but sadly I think that's the gaming/internet community in general these days. Once you find a decent set of folk to hang around with, however, it changes everything. Sort of like this thread. :)

Myself, I play with a small FC of family and friends, and I'd say our server is at least 80 percent nice guys. Probably because it is the rp server, and rpers typically aren't also elitist jerks. Maybe some day I'll grow a nerve and rp too.

But DF? <Disgusted Noise> I just keep my head down, pretend not to speak english and methodically do my job to get my dailies done when FC mates are scarce.


I have friends who play, but the number is few (as in not 8 including myself) and the number of Pocket Tanks exactly zero. Someone further back than XIV broke me of ever healing for a randoTank ever again. When Pocket Tank in XIV went back to playing Destiny, and then a tool diva tank chewed out myself and my SO for basically not doing his job for him, I just said screw it. Granted I was -and am- dealing with things irl that leave my nerves far too frayed to deal with tools in a game, but I haven't logged in since that night and that was a week prior to Christmas. If only I could have forseen back in 1.0 that Excal would become elitist asshat central, I would never have stayed on it post-merge. Or Primal datacenter in general, probably.

The only regret I have in quitting is RP, actually. My SO and I always RP in MMOs. Build elaborate arcs, and I am basically killing that story, or so it feels. It all just agitates me more.

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Yes it is in the game, when you take the mountain path.  But they also used the same scene from a different angle in one of the trailers.

 

I always chose the mountain path with my Lavellans for some reason. That's exactly the part I used to make the gif. I just record my gameplay, I didn't use a trailer.


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Oh gosh guys. Please don't fight, we all love the same thing here.
HE WHO WALKS THE FADE
So let's forget the whole argument!
Here I'll start a better argument.
I hate pie. Hate it, it's gross (this is fact. It cannot be argued). Yet I'm upset with Solas and Mr. Weekes for not liking tea (hypocrite). I'm mean if there's so many flavors, you haven't tried all of them. How can you say you hate all tea? (How can I say you ate all pie? Well that's different... It is)

 

I really want Lavellan (or Cass, I see her being a tea drinker) to introduce Solas to different blends of tea.  There's some that are naturally sweet and he may like!



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I always chose the mountain path with my Lavellans for some reason. That's exactly the part I used to make the gif. I just record my gameplay, I didn't use a trailer.

Oh I meant they as in BioWare!  CapricornSun83 had asked where it was from, and if it was in a trailer.  I'll go change the wording on my post so there's no confusion for anyone else. 



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I've only recently gotten into the culinary arts, but a book I was reading on Roman culture made it clear that A) No matter how far you go back, the French/Gauls were kicking all kinds of ass and blazing new paths in cooking, and B) The Romans had a mixture of food I find absolutely delicious sounding and just plain confusing.

 

I have a medevial cookbook that has a curry recipe!  Curry!  In medevial times!  History (and historical cooking) is AMAZING.



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Shari'el.

You wrote a lot. :D Still ruminating on most of it, but the one thing that really stands out.

Corypheus already had lyrium infused into his body. When we meet him in Legacy, he has what looks like blue lyrium (though it's not as bright as normal) growing out of his face. There was speculation and Chantry rumors that the Magisters twisted themselves with excessive lyrium and dark magic into physical horrors. But why wouldn't the lyrium in him be corrupted? He spent a few hundred years as a darkspawn before being imprisoned in Vimmark, then another decade being experimented on before being completely sealed.

I'm guessing Bianca contacted him about the red lyrium in his Larius form (Did anyone choose Janeka?  :lol: I did once, in my 'Morbidly Curious and Self-Destructive' Hawke playthrough) and he either knew about red lyrium before hand or thought it sounded cool. Once he got there, he builds up a lot of his plans around distributing the red lyrium and getting a secure source for it on the surface. He gets the Carta in on the game, he has the Freemen of the Dales helping supply it, in the Dark Future he's mining people for it, he uses it as a source of power, he loads up his Horcrux-Dragon with it.

But does he know its origins?

Did he roll around in the Primeval Thaig and do his Magister thing to infect his lyrium cheekbones?  ^_^


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Well it is 6:53 am. I woke up a couple hours ago to get a drink and have been glued to the Solas thread ever since. Um... I probably need help. You guys aren't helping though! You and your interesting conversations and funny posts! Uh, my niece and nephews are going to wake me up in another hour or two :c. I'm going back to bed!! Goodnight! Err, morning, whatever!
(Probably be back in two hours, because you know, I'm hopeless and have no life!)
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So I got busy with things back on page 1600, and I no longer think I'm going to catch up with this thread.

 

Which is unfortunate because this thread tends to come up with some interesting theories regarding Solas...

 

And because I collect Solas fan tears as well. The outpouring of emotions regarding Solas makes me fell less insecure about being sad myself about it


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Well it is 6:53 am. I woke up a couple hours ago to get a drink and have been glued to the Solas thread ever since. Um... I probably need help. You guys aren't helping though! You and your interesting conversations and funny posts! Uh, my niece and nephews are going to wake me up in another hour or two :c. I'm going back to bed!! Goodnight! Err, morning, whatever!
(Probably be back in two hours, because you know, I'm hopeless and have no life!)
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I should have been in bed hours ago, but I decided to check the thread while I took a Persona Q break to look up some guides. Neither sleep nor finishing of current floor in Persona Q was had. Doesn't matter really, as I have had pretty bad insomnia and brain-wont-shut-up-itis for a while. Wouldn't have slept, anyway.

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Out of likes. :(

That's very, very interesting. :D A High Priest depositing some of her memories into a well, or just mimicking that action out of reverence?

It's also interesting how many of the temple denizens appear to have been warriors.

 

They could've been Arcane Warriors.



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-longest post ever-

 

Omg, longest post ever. I'm ashamed and pleased at the same time.


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So I got busy with things back on page 1600, and I no longer think I'm going to catch up with this thread.

 

Which is unfortunate because this thread tends to come up with some interesting theories regarding Solas...

 

And because I collect Solas fan tears as well. The outpouring of emotions regarding Solas makes me fell less insecure about being sad myself about it

 

But... :crying:



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Woah. What is this? Explain it to me! :D Zevran looks especially awesome!

 

Zevran was easier to make because he's pretty. And SE is good at making very, very pretty men. I wish I could use him! I guess I'll just have that screenshot to remember him by.

 

'Tis a Final Fantasy MMO. I like it a great deal. http://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/

 

 

Which..which server?  I'm in a lovely FC which I've been in since beta so I'm happy there, even though I haven't played since DA:I..much to their..I can't say annoyance because they miss me. Many of us went to Fan Fest in October and I love them all...but I'm so *sigh*..blame Solas.

 

p.s My favourite retainer looks like Hildebrand.

 

I'm on Balmung. DA:I has taken a huge chunk of my playtime away from XIV, but it's ok. Half of my coil static has also gotten lost in Thedas for a few months with no end in sight. I dunno how we manage to actually get anything done.

 

Coincidentally we have a Godbert lookalike in our static. We all met up at Vegas fanfest. If you saw a Godbert chasing a pigtailed Hildibrand around, that was our tank. We are a classy bunch.

 

 

I have friends who play, but the number is few (as in not 8 including myself) and the number of Pocket Tanks exactly zero. Someone further back than XIV broke me of ever healing for a randoTank ever again. When Pocket Tank in XIV went back to playing Destiny, and then a tool diva tank chewed out myself and my SO for basically not doing his job for him, I just said screw it. Granted I was -and am- dealing with things irl that leave my nerves far too frayed to deal with tools in a game, but I haven't logged in since that night and that was a week prior to Christmas. If only I could have forseen back in 1.0 that Excal would become elitist asshat central, I would never have stayed on it post-merge. Or Primal datacenter in general, probably.

The only regret I have in quitting is RP, actually. My SO and I always RP in MMOs. Build elaborate arcs, and I am basically killing that story, or so it feels. It all just agitates me more.

 

We're actually tank heavy for our tiny group, but it's rare that more than 4 of us are on at any time. I main scholar, and I won't heal for random tank either, so if I gotta do roulette solo, I'm using my spear. Anyway, if you ever decide to change servers, and can manage to get into Balmung, feel free to look me up. My main is Chione Tilaeris.

 

Edit: Oh god, I got a top page finally and it wasn't even a post about Solas. Must remedy this immediately.

 

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Screenshot on the fly. I finally made him a new outfit. Cuddly fade touched ring velvet on cozy white. I think the ring velvet is my favorite fabric. Cole is wearing some too for his scarf bits. I just want to rub my face on it.


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OK guys , I have to go on abit of a rant here, forgive me , but I have to let it out.
 
What's up with Lavellan understanding elvhen language and being completely oblivious about it at the same time. It's so inconsistent and frustrating. It's ridiculous and mind boggling. I know that from gameplay perspective this happens so the player doesn't get spoiled, but what is the explanation from Lavellan's perspective? She/he got smacked over the head with the Stupid stick?
I know how understanding foreign languages work, English is not my native tongue. Even if you don't know the meaning of a certain word you can still place it within the context of the sentance. But oh noooo, Lavellan ignores the whole conversation the Fear demon and Solas had like they were casually chatting about sipping afternoon tea. If she/he can understand perfectly the conversation between Solas and the spirit of Wisdom ( along with perfect punctuation, I might add), there is no reason she couldn't atleast have clue on what they were talking about. Because , God forbid, we might actually confront Solas about him omiting information or straight up lying through his teeth. Same diference , if you ask me.
 
End of rant.
 
I'll just stop thinking about it and the problem will go away....like every problem with this game. *sigh*

 

 

Probably left over from when the game was human-only and the devs didn't want to impliment a whole new dialouge branch just for elves.  It's annoying, though.
 


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They could've been Arcane Warriors.

I believe Solas talks to Knight-Enchanters about how Arcane Warriors served as bodyguards for the nobility of Arlathan.

Gives me extra respect for the slaves that rebelled, lemme tell you. :o

So, again, I absolutely have not had my entire head canon determined by Crystal White.

That being said, the general consensus is that all the elves of Arlathan had magic. How did they oppress the slaves, then? Simply by not teaching them magic? That seems like it would lead to a large, unstable workforce who tend to set things on fire when they get upset.



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Zevran was easier to make because he's pretty. And SE is good at making very, very pretty men. I wish I could use him! I guess I'll just have that screenshot to remember him by.

 

'Tis a Final Fantasy MMO. I like it a great deal. http://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/

 

 

 

I'm on Balmung. DA:I has taken a huge chunk of my playtime away from XIV, but it's ok. Half of my coil static has also gotten lost in Thedas for a few months with no end in sight. I dunno how we manage to actually get anything done.

 

Coincidentally we have a Godbert lookalike in our static. We all met up at Vegas fanfest. If you saw a Godbert chasing a pigtailed Hildibrand around, that was our tank. We are a classy bunch.

 

 

 

We're actually tank heavy for our tiny group, but it's rare that more than 4 of us are on at any time. I main scholar, and I won't heal for random tank either, so if I gotta do roulette solo, I'm using my spear. Anyway, if you ever decide to change servers, and can manage to get into Balmung, feel free to look me up. My main is Chione Tilaeris.
 

 

Ahhh, I'm in the UK, so went to London Fan Fest, you guys were lucky..you had a whole weekend :P



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Omg, longest post ever. I'm ashamed and pleased at the same time.

An award you can place on your shelf. Just like my award for starting a Sex War.8SIGH*


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I believe Solas talks to Knight-Enchanters about how Arcane Warriors served as bodyguards for the nobility of Arlathan.

Gives me extra respect for the slaves that rebelled, lemme tell you. :o

So, again, I absolutely have not had my entire head canon determined by Crystal White.

That being said, the general consensus is that all the elves of Arlathan had magic. How did they oppress the slaves, then? Simply by not teaching them magic? That seems like it would lead to a large, unstable workforce who tend to set things on fire when they get upset.

 

I think we're going to get a DLC focused on Arlathan pretty soon.  There's just too many questions raised by the end of DAI to not get more information.  I'm also hoping that maybe World of Thedas volume 2 will have more information.  I'm hoping it answers some DAI questions, anyway.


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Hey you all, I got a question. Since many of you read the books and probably all the codex entries, maybe you know and I might just as well ask you:

 

Why does Solas give his orb away? And I do not mean the obvious answer "Because he was too weak after his slumber and did not have enough power himself to activate it". I know that. I just do not understand the basic motivation behind this.

So, basically, Solas' pride is his greatest weakness. He likes you to ask questions (with the intention to learn from him), but he cannot stand if you question him (e.g., about former affiliations with the Winter Palace). As soon as you imply that he might be wrong or ignorant about something, he instantly disapproves. It's a little like angry-Lavellan says when he tells her about the Vallaslin (something like "You take everything and turn it bad just to prove how smart you are!").

BUT given that, I do not get it into my head why the hell he gave away his orb in the first place. He awoke, found the world unpleasant, and decided he wanted to change it. A sort of general discontent. (Whatever exatly he intended to do does not really matter here.) Anyway, there was no Blight, no Corypheus, no urgent threat as such. Whatever he wanted to do, it had some time. In such a situation, knowing what a powerful artifact I own AND being very self-confident and proud, why do I decide to take the easy way out? Because that is what he did. Without any urgency and immediate need, he simply decided "Oh, I am not powerful at this time, but the nice looking tainted guy in front of me is so... here, have my mighty orb." Why? Why did he not find a way himself, wait until he was powerful enough again or such? Why always make your decisions alone, stand against all odds and handle things on your own and then, all of a sudden, turn to somebody else to solve your problems for you? I find that odd. Usually, when you have such strong faith in yourself (and the issue at hand is very important for you) (and you have a lot of time), you do not just give up control and let someone else handle it.

 

So, does anyone know? Can you please tell me, in case it is explained in the books or so?



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Shari'el.

You wrote a lot. :D Still ruminating on most of it, but the one thing that really stands out.

Corypheus already had lyrium infused into his body. When we meet him in Legacy, he has what looks like blue lyrium (though it's not as bright as normal) growing out of his face. There was speculation and Chantry rumors that the Magisters twisted themselves with excessive lyrium and dark magic into physical horrors. But why wouldn't the lyrium in him be corrupted? He spent a few hundred years as a darkspawn before being imprisoned in Vimmark, then another decade being experimented on before being completely sealed.

I'm guessing Bianca contacted him about the red lyrium in his Larius form (Did anyone choose Janeka?  :lol: I did once, in my 'Morbidly Curious and Self-Destructive' Hawke playthrough) and he either knew about red lyrium before hand or thought it sounded cool. Once he got there, he builds up a lot of his plans around distributing the red lyrium and getting a secure source for it on the surface. He gets the Carta in on the game, he has the Freemen of the Dales helping supply it, in the Dark Future he's mining people for it, he uses it as a source of power, he loads up his Horcrux-Dragon with it.

But does he know its origins?

Did he roll around in the Primeval Thaig and do his Magister thing to infect his lyrium cheekbones?  ^_^

 

Yes, I wrote a lot.

I just.. Started and couldn't stop, it was horrible :D

 

As for the lyrium, yes, that's what I said. I think lyrium doesn't get infected easily, there may be some other process that taints lyrium, touch isn't enough, otherwise there would've been a lot more red lyrium around. I think that once he took the red lyrium, overcame the lyrium in his body and changed it.

 

I don't know how much lyrium he consumes, or if still needs to (he was locked away for such a long time, and yet he remained strong, perhaps it was because the lyrium was already part of him), but he does need it for his red templar army and for his pet dragon.



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Fashionably late for discussion, again. Oh, well.

I wonder, how many people believe that they DID go to bed in Canon?

In my HC Lav hooked with the elf straight after Halamshiral, as it would be rather appropriate, considering the amount of alcohol, raw emotions and thrills of the Game. 

I actually like my second PT Lavellan, as she's not too cute and, in my opinion, doesn't look like a schoolgirl. I tried to make her somewhat Kate Blanchett-y style.

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Now, theory stuff. Remember The Profane from DA2? There are some implications, that they used to exist ouside the primeval Thaig, look at screen below.

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Dwarven legends state, that the Profane are dwarves so corrupt that even the Stone rejects them, they feed on lyrium, and, in fact, chose a name for themselves, because they feel that they were abandoned, although it is unclear by whom. A poem found on the walls of Revann Thaig implies, that when trapped or abandoned aeons ago, the profane "feasted upon the gods". 

Now, I've been thinking... what could have made a dwarf corrupt to join the Stone? My guess, it's a connection to the Fade, strengthened by ingesting lyrium later on, as it was clearly revered by ancient dwarves (red lyrium idol). Maybe, and it's a very big 'maybe', mind you, such dwarves were considered a threat for a hive mind of Titans, and thus became rejected and later became rock wraiths. 

Now, about dragons, Mythal and Andraste.

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I consider this codex entry as an indirect proof of relation between Andraste and Mythal. They may not be the same entity, but it does strongly remind me the bond, formed between dragon guardian of Mythal and Quizzie. 


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Hey you all, I got a question. Since many of you read the books and probably all the codex entries, maybe you know and I might just as well ask you:

 

Why does Solas give his orb away? And I do not mean the obvious answer "Because he was too weak after his slumber and did not have enough power himself to activate it". I know that. I just do not understand the basic motivation behind this.

So, basically, Solas' pride is his greatest weakness. He likes you to ask questions (with the intention to learn from him), but he cannot stand if you question him (e.g., about former affiliations with the Winter Palace). As soon as you imply that he might be wrong or ignorant about something, he instantly disapproves. It's a little like angry-Lavellan says when he tells her about the Vallaslin (something like "You take everything and turn it bad just to prove how smart you are!").

BUT given that, I do not get it into my head why the hell he gave away his orb in the first place. He awoke, found the world unpleasant, and decided he wanted to change it. A sort of general discontent. (Whatever exatly he intended to do does not really matter here.) Anyway, there was no Blight, no Corypheus, no urgent threat as such. Whatever he wanted to do, it had some time. In such a situation, knowing what a powerful artifact I own AND being very self-confident and proud, why do I decide to take the easy way out? Because that is what he did. Without any urgency and immediate need, he simply decided "Oh, I am not powerful at this time, but the nice looking tainted guy in front of me is so... here, have my mighty orb." Why? Why did he not find a way himself, wait until he was powerful enough again or such? Why always make your decisions alone, stand against all odds and handly things on your own and then, all of a sudden, turn to somebody else to solve your problems for you? I find that odd. Usually, when you have such strong faith in yourself (and the issue at hand is very important for you) (and you have a lot of time), you do not just give up control and let someone else handle it.

 

So, does anyone know? Can you please tell me, in case it is explained in the books or so?

 

The general theory is that Solas intended Cory to die in powering up the Orb.