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All tea totally tastes the same!  Like steamed dead leaves and sticks in hot water.  =w=   *shudders*

 

That said, I'm totally with you on the pie thing.  The insides, sure, but does anyone actually like crust?  Gross. 

 

Huh. I live in the South in North America and here we drink cold sweet tea and it tastes Amazing.  :D

 

Now I have tried hot tea...it was peach flavored and lets just say drinking the whole cup ( I had to drink it all cause I was at a fancy tea party..respect.) was torture.  :sick:



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Regarding Solas catching onto Mihris' lie... couple possibilities, here. One is that Solas is just super good at reading people. Granted, he doesn't read Blackwall very well, or maybe figures that as long as he's helping the Inquisition (like himself) it doesn't matter. Also, plot armor. I love Bioware, but they have been guilty of using it.
 
Or - Solas could have been, in his wanderings, in tune with some events. Enough to investigate them after he awoke, maybe? I would think a Dalish clan imprisoning one of his old acquaintances (if he really did once walk among the Forgotten Ones) and his subsequent bloody release would be something he'd look into. Assuming he isn't somehow involved with Felassan... I'm not convinced Solas was the one at the end but that doesn't discount him being involved with or at least aware of that person. Thing. Whatever it was, and it's plans.
 
Hmmm... the fact that Imshael also doesn't recognize Solas (as Cory doesn't - though I'm going with the theory that Solas and Cory never actually physically met) does make me wonder if Solas is Fen'Harel in the physical sense. Though it could be that Fen'Harel's travels into the void had him taking on some other, more spiritual, form... Gah, I just don't know :wacko:

That PW tweet makes me think Solas is able to conceal things from even other powerful spirits. He may be able to block them from recognizing that he's more than he appears to be.
 
As for Uthenera, it sounds to me like more of a stasis than normal dreaming where you're aware of things in the Fade.
 
I was reading World of Thedas and the song Suledin (Endure) reminds me of Solas and his lonely quest. Wisdom tells him "mala suledin nadas"- "now you must endure," and he repeats it. The words also remind me of Lavellan searching for him.
 
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Noticed as well that solas is translated as either pride or "stand tall."

It is a web series. Look up Dragon Age: Redemption. But as was mentioned, it is of questionable canon as the lore is off in places. And its a bit...painful to watch. They meant well, but. It just wasn't my thing.

As far as Solas is concerned- the plot involves a struggle to acquire an ancient relic mask, which had ties to Fen'Harel. I can't remember what the kossith's end goal was in getting the mask, or even if he ever stated it. It just sort of meanders a bit.

He wants to break open the Fade because he's angry about how he was treated as a Qunari mage, so he steals the Mask of Fen'Harel which some Dalish clan had stashed in the back of an aravel, and tries to do a ritual where he sacrifices a Dalish maiden on an altar to Fen'Harel while the mask is hovering over it. Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense. I think Gaider should have consulted more closely than he apparently did.
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Anyone posted this already ?

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Phew.

 

So glad it's been confirmed and it was that Solas didn't want Cole to know his plans that's it. 


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Anyone posted this already ?

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Well, that makes me feel better about making Cole a spirit in my second playthrough. I was happy with my decision until he just started making everyone "forget." I'm like what does that mean? Forget the pain? Forget the whole thing?



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OMFG I just posted it yesterday and I've got 75 likes WTF

 

It's a very nice video.


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This is hilarious. We're just picking at medias from childhood to use as analogies for the game's events.

 

Heh, it's kind of hard not to.

 

The whole reason I made The Last Unicorn - Thedas Elvhen connection in the first place was because I felt the unicorn's reaction to

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must have been how the ancient elves felt when they experienced the quickening for the first time.

 

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Huh. I live in the South in North America and here we drink cold sweet tea and it tastes Amazing.  :D

 

Now I have tried hot tea...it was peach flavored and lets just say drinking the whole cup ( I had to drink it all cause I was at a fancy tea party..respect.) was torture.  :sick:

 

You'd make a terrible British person XD



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You'd make a terrible British person XD

 

Ha!

 

Well it's a good thing I don't live there then.  :D  


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You'd make a terrible British person XD

As an american, I took a test to see what kind of British accent I would have. The results said that I was Chav.



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You'd make a terrible British person XD

 

I lived in London for six months during a study-abroad program, and tea was pretty much what kept me alive since it was the coldest winter in 50 years, and the heat in our building was...patchy.  Tea forever!



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OMFG I just posted it yesterday and I've got 75 likes WTF

 

With good reason. It's a gorgeous song and a beautiful video.

 

Who sang it, by the way?


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With good reason. It's a gorgeous song and a beautiful video.

 

Who sang it, by the way?

Phemiec

 

She is a free lance artist that did a lot of songs for Homestuck fandom, now she is doing Dragon Age stuff. I really think the video author should have credited Phemiec properly :(


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I remember when Solas said getting possessed by a demon is no different from the temptation of taking a bite of a shiny red apple.

 

The problem is.. I like apples. Maybe life as an abomination won't be as bad as they say. 

ya he says he can resist desire demons but he can't resist a kiss from Lavellan  :devil:


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Phemiec

 

She is a free lance artist that did a lot of songs for Homestuck fandom, now she is doing Dragon Age stuff. I really think the video author should have credited Phemiec properly :(

 

She credited her in the notes section.



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You'd make a terrible British person XD

 

I'm Scottish and I hate tea & coffee. It's pretty painful going to visit people or being out with folks who don't know you. Not accepting a cup of tea in someone's house in Britain is the equivalent of trailing dirt over their new cream carpet. I find myself always apologising and asking for a glass of water. XD

 

To quote Eddie Izzard

 

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Ha!

Well it's a good thing I don't live there then. :D

I'm also in the south. Iced sweet tea drinkers unite! *brofist*
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I'm an evil person.

My significant other and I started dating when she was just starting DA2, and we've been playing most of our games together ever since. I was explaining my utterly insane theory born of anagrams, wolf statues, Solas's facial expressions, and snippets of party banters that this adorable Fade nerd was actually the Dread Wolf. We both agreed that it seemed like a possibility, and then we hit 'Claim Landmark', saw 'Shrine of Fen'harel' pop up, and 'Solas Slightly Approves'. Cue dropped jaws and hysterical laughter.

 

[snop]

 

 

OH MY GOD I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT WHEN YOU CLAIM THE SHRINE OF FEN'HAREL

I CANNOT BELIEVE... that's amazing ahaha

 

 

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For some reason I just love this part. I don't know whether it's Solas using his staff like a walking stick, or maybe Varric's little "c'mon, bud!" motion he gives to Solas. I just needed an endless loop of it.

 

ETA I just noticed how funny Cass looks walking up that hill, too. Haha, perfect.

 

old man solas hobbles to the top of the mountain

 

 

also man do y'all post fast 


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Ughh, on my second playthrough and got this banter between Solas and Dorian I'd never heard before:  

 

Dorian: Solas, for what it's worth, I'm sorry.

Dorian: The elven city of Arlathan sounds like a magical place, and for my ancestors to have destroyed it...

Solas: Dorian... hush.

Solas: Empires rise and fall. Arlathan was no more "innocent" than your own Tevinter in its time.

Solas: Your nostalgia for the ancient elves, however romanticized, is pointless.

Solas: If you wish to make amends for past transgressions, free the slaves of all races who live in Tevinter today.

Dorian: I... don't know that I can do that.

Solas: Then how sorry are you?

 

I'm sure this was posted already but... it's really interesting! It seems like a lot of people think Solas' ultimate intention is to free to elven gods, but from this banter it seems like the complete opposite, that he intends to leave them behind and start freeing slaves again... it's weird. The hints about what he intends to do go both ways!  And chiding someone for nostalgia about ancient elves... c'mon Solas.  -_-


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old man solas hobbles to the top of the mountain

 

 

Turns out Solas takes wolf form because laaazy. Four legs so much easier. 


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I just wanted to point out, since it was brought up a few pages ago, that even though it's a bit cheesy "1,000 Words" from FFX-2 is kind of relevant for the Solasmance.

Uh...*sweats* also, "Hi, Solas thread." *nervous wagging of fingers* "I brought a blanket for the fort."
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That PW tweet makes me think Solas is able to conceal things from even other powerful spirits. He may be able to block them from recognizing that he's more than he appears to be.
 
As for Uthenera, it sounds to me like more of a stasis than normal dreaming where you're aware of things in the Fade.
 
I was reading World of Thedas and the song Suledin (Endure) reminds me of Solas and his lonely quest. Wisdom tells him "mala suledin nadas"- "now you must endure," and he repeats it. The words also remind me of Lavellan searching for him.
 

Spoiler

 
Noticed as well that solas is translated as either pride or "stand tall."

He wants to break open the Fade because he's angry about how he was treated as a Qunari mage, so he steals the Mask of Fen'Harel which some Dalish clan had stashed in the back of an aravel, and tries to do a ritual where he sacrifices a Dalish maiden on an altar to Fen'Harel while the mask is hovering over it. Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense. I think Gaider should have consulted more closely than he apparently did.

I kinda thought that Solas used a "trick" to make Cole forget. Cole is a spirit of compassion and wants to help. If Solas somehow makes him believe that the best way to help is that he(Cole) forgets what Solas is going to do. Same with the Solas romance banter.


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Ughh, on my second playthrough and got this banter between Solas and Dorian I'd never heard before:  

 

Dorian: Solas, for what it's worth, I'm sorry.

Dorian: The elven city of Arlathan sounds like a magical place, and for my ancestors to have destroyed it...

Solas: Dorian... hush.

Solas: Empires rise and fall. Arlathan was no more "innocent" than your own Tevinter in its time.

Solas: Your nostalgia for the ancient elves, however romanticized, is pointless.

Solas: If you wish to make amends for past transgressions, free the slaves of all races who live in Tevinter today.

Dorian: I... don't know that I can do that.

Solas: Then how sorry are you?

 

I'm sure this was posted already but... it's really interesting! It seems like a lot of people think Solas' ultimate intention is to free to elven gods, but from this banter it seems like the complete opposite, that he intends to leave them behind and start freeing slaves again... it's weird. The hints about what he intends to do go both ways!  And chiding someone for nostalgia about ancient elves... c'mon Solas.  -_-

 

I suspect that his plan is to free all the slaves of Thedas


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4X8x4qp.gif

 

For some reason I just love this part. I don't know whether it's Solas using his staff like a walking stick, or maybe Varric's little "c'mon, bud!" motion he gives to Solas. I just needed an endless loop of it.

 

ETA I just noticed how funny Cass looks walking up that hill, too. Haha, perfect.

 

That scene reminds of the Origins trailer when they're looking for the ashes.



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I'm sure this was posted already but... it's really interesting! It seems like a lot of people think Solas' ultimate intention is to free to elven gods, but from this banter it seems like the complete opposite, that he intends to leave them behind and start freeing slaves again... it's weird. The hints about what he intends to do go both ways!  And chiding someone for nostalgia about ancient elves... c'mon Solas.  -_-

 

Yeah, there's definitely an equal amount of evidence supporting him wanting to release the gods, and him wanting to keep them shut up. I think he definitely has guilt about it, probably because he sees his own crime as no different than theirs. Sure, they were killing people in sacrifices and abusing their power- but he caused the fall of the empire. Technically he's the worst one. [In his mind, at least.]

 

There's also a theory that it isn't the elven gods he wants to free, but all the other elves who potentially got trapped within Fen'Harel's snare. If he sealed off a portion of Arlathan itself, there could be potentially thousands suffering a fate worse than death. No way to know for sure, but, its definitely another possible read on the things he says. 


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I kinda thought that Solas used a "trick" to make Cole forget. Cole is a spirit of compassion and wants to help. If Solas somehow makes him believe that the best way to help is that he(Cole) forgets what Solas is going to do. Same with the Solas romance banter.

 

That was my take on it too. I don't think Solas can force Cole to forget, but more suggest that Cole make himself forget. Cole is susceptible to the emotions of others, and we know that he trusted Solas a fair bit. 

 

There's also the fact that Cole is even able to relay the message back. If Solas was wiping the memory himself, why not also wipe the memory of him telling Cole to forget? I suppose its possible that Solas was communicating with him telepathically, but I assumed Cole was just 'parroting' back what had happened.

 

In a subtle way letting the Inquisitor know what had happened, even if Cole could not mentally process it himself. 


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