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[madrar]

Personally, I think Solas is simply Fen'Harel... And while I think the myths and the interpretation changed with time, I think Fen'Harel as trickster/dread wolf/scary dude doesn't come from nowhere. Even if his motivations weren't as sinister as they were later interpreted to be (nor did he hug himself while giggling madly with joy after - he has a great banter with Cass about the unintended victims of war), I do believe he might have done some shady 'for the greater good' stuff in his youth.

 

I've failed yet again.  TwT  I'm so sorry, Solas.  

[Mims]

I'm definitely of the mind that young Fen'Harel was more of a villain than he was a hero. He probably frittered around, messing with the pantheon and the forgotten ones as much as he could without being labeled an enemy of either. Or perhaps, both groups humored him so as to not unseat the balance of power. I don't think he had a lot of slaves. He was probably never that sort of god. But he certainly enjoyed the perks and freedom that came with the facade. 

 

Then, something broke. Some god went too far, and Fen'Harel had the sobering look around Arlathan and realized he had become the 'good' one by merit of savage company. And once he started caring, it all snowballed out of control. Which would explain his somewhat chaotic attempts to fix things. It wasn't really the role he was ever prepared to assume. 

 

Which is not to say he doesn't want to be the hero- I think by the time he's Solas, he has reformed most of his old ways. But he carries that guilt, along with the guilt of not being able to handle the situations handed to him properly. He's still trying to outrun the shadow that was cast over all of the pantheon, a shadow that probably hovers over him as well. 

[Caddius]

Kind of OT but:
 

*shakes fist* GAIIDDDERRR!

Wait, what? The Temple of Mythal was re-tooled from Exalted March?!

But....what...I.

Was Hawke going to be the Vessel?

Was there going to be Corypheus goodness? 

Would Hawke die in the Abyss?

Would Varric's chest-hair get shaven off?

I NEED TO KNOW!

GAAAIIDER! *waves fist*

[madrar]

Kind of OT but:
 

*shakes fist* GAIIDDDERRR!

*joins in* GAAIIIDDDDEEEERRR!!!!!!

 

*harmonizes*  GAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIDERRRRR!!!!

[Dr. Doctor]

Wait, what? The Temple of Mythal was re-tooled from Exalted March?!
But....what...I.
Was Hawke going to be the Vessel?
Was there going to be Corypheus goodness? 
Would Hawke die in the Abyss?
Would Varric's chest-hair get shaven off?
I NEED TO KNOW!
GAAAIIDER! *waves fist*

Merrill got the Eluvian to work?

[OxidantsHappen]

*snip*

Would Varric's chest-hair get shaven off?

*snip*

 

This demands a DLC. Just this. I cannot think of anything more relevant to the DA universe than a DLC about Varric's chest hair.

[AWTEW]

*harmonizes*  GAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIDERRRRR!!!!

'joins in' GAAAAIDER!

[Fialka]

Fen'harel has a lot of 'soldier bonding' talks with Blackwall. I can see him as an arrogant young Dreamer fighting for Mythal and Elgar'nan, and working his way up the ranks to become Mythal's favorite. Or maybe it was the slave rebellion. Or the inter-Pantheon conflicts. My inner fanboy can't help but picture Solas as an elfy Tavi from Codex Alera. Ridiculously brilliant and underestimated by a lot of his opponents, with a mind that goes like Whoa!

Yes, exactly! That's what I love so much about the stories of Fen'Harel's deeds - I mean, sure, he comes across as all kinds of evil and all - but he's also a genius. He wins not through brute force, but with the power of his mind and his ability to strategize and solve problems in really creative and unexpected ways. It's incredibly sexy And Solas has retained that, though it's subtle (until its not - his chess game with IB was some brilliant writing...)

[NightSymphony]

[AryBoBary]

*harmonizes*  GAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIDERRRRR!!!!

 

*beat-boxes to the vocals* 

 

Look out Pentatonix.

[RebbyWriter]

SAving this for future inevitable useage.

[k_drake]

Hmm - a list of spirits or possible spirits

The Guardian of the Ashes

The Riddlers in the Gauntlet

The spirit wolves in the mage Origin harrowing

The Spirit of Valor ibid

The Spirit of Justice

Wynn's Spirit

Cole

The Spirit of the Forest (The Lady)

any more?

There's another spirit of Valor in Lake Luthias (sp?) in the Hinterlands.  And of course the Spirit of Wisdom Solas wants to save in his personal quest.  Then--no screen time--but there's the spirit(s) of faith that the Seekers summon in order to reverse their voluntary tranquility.  

[God]

Solas approves.

Solas approves.

Solas approves.

[Sah291]

Wait, what? The Temple of Mythal was re-tooled from Exalted March?!
But....what...I.
Was Hawke going to be the Vessel?
Was there going to be Corypheus goodness? 
Would Hawke die in the Abyss?
Would Varric's chest-hair get shaven off?
I NEED TO KNOW!
GAAAIIDER! *waves fist*

Yes I'm thinking everyone was planned to die at the end, even our LIs.....especially our LIs...lol.

[AryBoBary]

<sniparingo>

 

I still find it really fitting that my Dalish Keeper's First who wears Mythal's mark drank from the Well of Sorrows, became Mythal's literal servant, declined to let Solas remove her vallaslin, and unknowingly was in love with Fen'Harel, who is also Mythal's oldest friend, and whom he absorbed to help the People. (Average elven mortals like her).

 

[Sashimi_taco]

When the next DLC is about some BS extra party member instead of Wolf Hunt I'll be so upset.

[AryBoBary]

When the next DLC is about some BS extra party member instead of Wolf Hunt I'll be so upset.

 

I vote for Your Trainer.    

[Lorien19]

Yes, exactly! That's what I love so much about the stories of Fen'Harel's deeds - I mean, sure, he comes across as all kinds of evil and all - but he's also a genius. He wins not through brute force, but with the power of his mind and his ability to strategize and solve problems in really creative and unexpected ways. It's incredibly sexy And Solas has retained that, though it's subtle (until its not - his chess game with IB was some brilliant writing...)

This is the main reason why Fen'harel was my fave alongside Dirthamen.
He sounded like the Dragon age equivalent of Loki.Although I must admit I prefer the more morally ambiguous version of him that is Solas, rather than the downright evil trickster god trope.
Although Loki was initially portrayed as more morally grey as well,and some scholars believe that ragnarok,where Loki is presented as an evil deity was inspired by Christian apocalypse later on.

[Cheese of Borg]

When the next DLC is about some BS extra party member instead of Wolf Hunt I'll be so upset.

Didn't bioware officially state that there would be no new party members?

[Lorien19]

When the next DLC is about some BS extra party member instead of Wolf Hunt I'll be so upset.

Me too,like really upset...Unless it's Abelas. *whistles innocently*

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

Spoiler

 

 

So relating this to an earlier conversation about Kirkwall and the crazy Forbidden One related blood magic which used to happen underneath it. Those mages were intentionally trying to weaken the veil in order to communicate with the baddies, right? What if Solas returning to this place after waking was because he was aware that someone was intentionally trying to weaken his veil "locks", with sacrificial rituals such as this? 

Would mean that there is someone out there directly trying to counter Solas' efforts... Moriarty style.

 

I would love this. I still think Felassan was working for Falon'din and that the "friend of the dead" is out and about, rivaling Fen'Harel and messing with his stuff. Solas really sounded particularly contemptuous of him in the Temple, to me. I sensed personal dislike there.

[NightSymphony]

I know I know...Not Solas...but Fenris is almost as good.

 

http://crazysmurfy.d...tCard-506458935

[arlofthan]

On spirits: what about the being that takes the form of Divine Justinia in the Fade? What are we calling that, a spirit, a soul, or some kind of bonding of the two?

[arlofthan]

When the next DLC is about some BS extra party member instead of Wolf Hunt I'll be so upset.

 >mfw the next dlc is called wolf hunt... and it's about hunting a giant wolf in the hinterlands. with tallis and sebastian as your only available party members.