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Also.. am I the only one who sees that Andruil's right arm has strikingly... crystal like armor on it? Just.. throwing that out there.

If you guys see it, and please respond or like to let me know, she'll be getting red lyrium armor on her right arm. Otherwise I'll just make it spiky metal. 

 

Ugh, totally red lyrium.  Sera is so nuts.



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You guys, I have to play through the Temple of Dirthamen tonight, and I don't want to because I'm scared. :( But as an Elf romancing Solas I feel like I can't skip it or I'll lose my elf card!

 

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Same here.  Stupid sexy Fade sensei  <_<

 

I did *finally* get far enough with Adaar to start triggering Dorian's romance content, though.  It's so nice to be able to play romance scenes without crying a little inside  :lol:

 

Dorian has a very cute and sweet romance. I think he's just darling, so have fun! 

 

I'm about halfway-ish in terms of my Solas-mance. 


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Awwww. That does make me feel better! Thank youuuu. <3


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Andruil also has a circle pattern on her forehead.

 

Oh my god, you're right.  Elgar'nan doesn't mess around, does he.  No wonder she had to fall back on her marksmanship and was desperate enough to muck around with red lyrium.  She was subverting his Order, and he had her branded for it.  Couldn't toss her in the Void, because Ghil, but that was his first attempt at shutting her down.  

 

So she went looking for another way, and found it.  Cue blighted Andruil.  The showdown between her and Mythal that got the Dread Wolf sprung from void prison.   Introduction of Andruil's Blighted-Mega-Death-Laser courtesy of June, the drawing of new faction lines, the battle for Arlathan, and the City crisped Black.   

 

Yeah.   The earlier pieces fit, but this fills it out a bit more.   LIZ.  Thank you!!


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Awwww. That does make me feel better! Thank youuuu. <3

 

And thank you for giving me a chance to search for kitty pictures. I'm feeling a lot better now too.


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And thank you for giving me a chance to search for kitty pictures. I'm feeling a lot better now too.

 

There's always an excuse for cute animal photos. puppy-gif-cute-862806.gif


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So lovely to start the work week by LMAO. I <3 you Solas thread.

(Uses up likes on cute animal photos. Dear god. What have you done to me.)
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There's always an excuse for cute animal photos. puppy-gif-cute-862806.gif

 

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Indeed

 

Edit: Oh my god I've been staring at the gif you posted for so long now. Dogs getting tummy rubs, gah


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Sorry if anyone posted these already..I'm not caught up since last night.

 

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http://blueberry-me....ellan-506448522

 

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http://papercutzz.de...-babe-506567797

 

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http://odme1.deviant...ounts-506593790


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Holy crap did a lot happen while I was gone this weekend! I am super into the idea of designing the rest of the pantheon however... Give me... a bit. I will do that thing. The only things I keep running into are June and Ghilal'nain's depictions in their mosaics. Ghilal'nain, unlike the rest of the Pantheon, has a white face, which leads me to believe she's covered in vallaslin.

Ghilal'nain's Mosaic
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June, on the other hand, has the bottom of his face in white, which leads me to believe it's a beard. Seeing as beards are the least elven characteristic I can imagine in the DA universe, I continue to doubt his being elven. Also, his arms are portrayed as significantly shorter.  Not to mention the structured, angular background detail pattern behind him that deeply reminiscent of dwarven architecture and statuary that is in direct contrast to the organic visual motifs present in the rest of the mosaics of the pantheon. And then there's the anvil. I need not go on!

June's Mosaic on the left with Falon'Din's on the right to act as a limb-length comparison. June, on the left, is significantly more squat and broad, lacking the near El Greco stretching we see the in the depiction of the rest of the elves.
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Sooo... if I were to do the pantheon, would you all be cool with June being dwarven and Ghilal'nain having Vallaslin? I kind of can't see another way of going about it.

EDIT: The tales tell us that Ghilal'nain was Andruil's chosen and most devoted follower, so her Vallaslin will be Andruil's. Just an FYI.

 

You're the artist, yeah? You do what you want. :) It's your interpretation, after all. :)



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Poor storytelling is somewhat neither here nor there because everyone has different opinions on what is good and what is not, they very well could do something completely stupid and think it's a good story. (ME3?)

I think a lot of the symbolism is accidental (reuse of statues or whatever) but some of it has to be there for reasons we can't see yet. :)

Yes, there may be objective criteria for poor storytelling like obvious contradictions or shallow stereotypical characters, but mostly it's very very subjective.
Often we project more clever things onto something than the person who created it. But so what? What matters is what people get out of something. And if they enjoy theorizing and come up with great ideas others even appreciate contemplating, that's wonderful!
Personally, I consider anything that allows for such extensive theorizing a success. In the end the actual intent doesn't even matter. If we like what we see we shouldn't let others ruin it. That was my issue with BSN after ME3. I loved the game so much and had no problem with the ending. I thought the execution was poor but I thought it all made perfect sense. I firmly believe in the indoctrination theory and the shitload of evidence in the game that supports it - that doesn't mean others have to interpret the games the same way. But the amount if ridicule and resentment upset fans had for those who were happy with their interpretation made me leave BSN.

I feel the same frustration with the hate for DAI. The game is as good as we want it to be. Bioware games allow for intensive theorizing and that is something I love them for.
I feel that many people don't give Bioware enough credit for their subtext/mythology. They do have a plan and an endgame. They always drop many hints and DAI is the best proof how everything is connected. And that there is MUCH more going on than mages and templars. That is fact, the game states it. However, how complicated this all is comes down to personal interpretation. Bioware will most likely keep it open. I like it when something is not spelled out, so that everyone can draw their own conclusions. But when there are enough hints that do make sense if we manage to piece them together. There usually is a message/a meaning. It just might not be quite as philosophical or brilliant as we thought. Some things are just coincidence but our adaptive minds can find meaning in everything. Theories are reflections of the mind of the theorizer not so much the art. And it's all good that way. Stories are meant to be fun and maybe make us think.
Bioware gives me what I seek, so I'm happy.
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240px-Andruil-_Goddess_of_the_Hunt.png

Also.. am I the only one who sees that Andruil's right arm has strikingly... crystal like armor on it? Just.. throwing that out there.

If you guys see it, and please respond or like to let me know, she'll be getting red lyrium armor on her right arm. Otherwise I'll just make it spiky metal. 

Nice to see you here again!

For me it's more like flames, not crystals



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The backdrop of June's mosaic has a very angular pattern, one more point towards June being dwarven - or having something to do with the dwarves. Also, anvil.

 

it's totally sandal guys

 

 

Top Solas! Bringing this back. <3

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http://dakkun39.tumb...7695793603/da-i


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It's standard asymmetric arm armor.



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Andruil also has a circle pattern on her forehead.

EDIT: It's not white, so I side against the idea of there being a "mark" on her forehead the way that Tranquil within the Current Era of Dragon Age do. It could also just be the artists who did the Mosaics with a square brush in photoshop (with size jitter and spacing on) adding visual interest. A significantly less conspiracy theory explanation.  ;) But I'm open to both!

 

No worries!  I certainly didn't mean to force theory into your art.  Just bringing up the thought as a lore-justifiable design option.  

 

In a metagame sense, I'm fairly sure the brands aren't represented as a distinct color because that would instantly flash "TRANQUILITY BRAND" in the player's mind.   As is, the effect is subtle enough that it totally slipped past me until now.  Cleverly done, art guy.  


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The backdrop of June's mosaic has a very angular pattern, one more point towards June being dwarven - or having something to do with the dwarves. Also, anvil.

 

it's totally sandal guys

 

 

Top Solas! Bringing this back. <3

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http://ladyvoxxy.tum...-omgsolasmylove

 

Just to make sure that the proper artist is credited, this is the link to the original artist's Tumblr post with that art: http://dakkun39.tumb...7695793603/da-i

 

;) 


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There's a distinct anvil look to the white mosaics on the bottom half, I'm thinking Primeval Thaig, golems and profane.

 

Andruil is coming across as a bit power hungry/desperate to prove herself. She's the only one who elevates another to godhood (for an ally?) and she goes into the Void to hunt the Forgotten Ones then covers herself in their armour. 


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Just noticed that collar on June's clothes. Reminds me of Varric's propensity for V-necks.

 

He is a dwarf it is not a subject up for debate


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Good catch, Capri. I thought it was odd that the original post url linked some pages back wasn't the same as the watermark.  :blink:

 

Holy nutcrackers, this artist does really good stuff. DA:I Fenris... *fans self*


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Argh. Just where is this Void, exactly? In the Fade? Underground? Gah.



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Good catch, Capri. I thought it was odd that the original post url linked some pages back wasn't the same as the watermark.  :blink:

 

Holy nutcrackers, this artist does really good stuff. DA:I Fenris... *fans self*

 

I've been a fan of dakkun since DA2, he's really great. Check this out: http://dakkun39.tumb...830217223#notes


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