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[Eivuwan]

No one is asking the right question. What is Solas' last name?

[madrar]

And we must remember, that the Black City is unreachable. Maybe, it's due to the fact, that its dreamer(s) are somewhere also out of reach. My guess is that Tevinter magisters had to be not far away from them to actually assault the Black City.

 

Just going to repost a bit: the Fade bends the physics of reality, but it doesn't break them.

 

The Black City in the Fade is universally far away and unreachable for the same reason its physical counterpart is.   Its physical existence is currently sealed at the center of world, equidistant from all points on the surface of the sphere that makes up Thedas. Similarly, its fade reflection is equidistant and unreachable from all points in the Fade.  No matter how far on the surface of the planet you walk, you can never get to its center.  Similarly, no matter how you traverse the fade, you can never reach the Black City.  

 

It's a hard limit.  There are only two ways to get there: fade rift (to the fade City) or eluvian (to the physical City).

[_Lucinia]

I posted about this in the Cullen thread, but I'm guessing it's possible some people might be interested in this exploit/bug I encountered.  I'm not 100% if it's repeatable, but I was able to romance both Cullen and Solas fully until the end of the game- intact.  I didn't do intentionally, it just sort of happened and I rolled with it until the end out of curiosity.  Here's how it happened:

 

My Lavellan kissed Solas in the Fade and then immediately after when she woke up, she agreed with Solas that it was best to remain friends by hitting the broken heart icon.  Despite this, Solas acknowledged the kiss after his personal quest on the balcony.  I thought, oh well why the hell not? and had my Lavellan kiss him after he brought it up again.  The romance flag didn't actually lock her into it, however, and Solas will continue to call her Lethallan and Friend; neither will Sera, Vivienne, or the gossipers acknowledge their romance.  I was then free to pursue the Cullen romance, because I assumed what happened must have been a fluke.  I just headcanoned that they decided it couldn't work out and it was some time later (after Cullen's personal quest, Perseverance, in fact) that I initiated the Cullen romance.  Cullen's romance will lock in, and be acknowledged in his dialogue and outside gossip.

 

At the Winter Palace, Lavellan can request a dance from both Cullen and Solas, but it will be Cullen who will pursue her on the balcony to dance.

 

The end, after the Temple of Mythal, was when things became interesting.  Solas's romance scene does trigger and my Lavellan had the choice to remove her vallaslin (I decided to keep it so things wouldn't get too bizarre).  Solas's tarot card actually changed, too, despite his romance not being the active one.  The end scenes play out exactly as if she's romancing Cullen and Solas.  Here are some screenshots:

 

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Crap I am out of likes already and I only just caught up on the thread.

 

I don't know if I should laugh or cry that you pulled that off.  

[Avejajed]

That's the socio-political downfall of Arlathan. The actual city itself IS said to have been pulled underground and destroyed by Tevinter. From the wiki:

 

You'd think there wouldn't be enough power for this. Maybe someone's Foci was used- Dorian talks about similar orbs used by Dreamers- maybe they had some too.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Avejajed]

No one is asking the right question. What is Solas' last name?

 

Husbando.

[Kittn]

You guys I'm really like...I don't know.

 

The forgotten ones.

 

The dwarves made images of dwarven deities, that we know from the Primeval Thaig. But the shaperate had no memory of them. They are forgotten.

 

[madrar]

That's the socio-political downfall of Arlathan. The actual city itself IS said to have been pulled underground and destroyed by Tevinter. From the wiki:

 

Unfortunately, the wiki is written by fallible non-Gaiders.  The non-codex information found there is unavoidably tainted by contributors' understanding of how things work, which in some cases is quite different from how they actually do.  There are huge portions that are demonstrably wrong in light of what we've learned from DA:I- Tevinter's direct hand in the fall of Arlathan being one of them.

[vierrae]

 Ah! Sorry about that, I can never get the images from the dragon age wiki to show up the right size, lemme see if I can go grab a screenshot in game.

I... think they do, personally, but that's likely because art is my profession and I fully admit to being biased. Like, the most biased.

I try to imagine Bioware writers, consulting Bioware artists: "And don't forget to change horns shape in these two images, that will serve as a minor decoration on a landscape". Does it work this way? As I'm not even an artist, I really have no idea.

[AryBoBary]

No one is asking the right question. What is Solas' last name?

 

Feral Glory.

[Rabbitonfire]

No one is asking the right question. What is Solas' last name?

Solas Soulless soleless showless solstice

[Eivuwan]

Come to think of it. It's weird how some major characters have last names and some don't. It's almost like it's random.

[TanisLave]

I posted about this in the Cullen thread, but I'm guessing it's possible some people might be interested in this exploit/bug I encountered.  I'm not 100% if it's repeatable, but I was able to romance both Cullen and Solas fully until the end of the game- intact.  I didn't do intentionally, it just sort of happened and I rolled with it until the end out of curiosity.  Here's how it happened:

 

My Lavellan kissed Solas in the Fade and then immediately after when she woke up, she agreed with Solas that it was best to remain friends by hitting the broken heart icon.  Despite this, Solas acknowledged the kiss after his personal quest on the balcony.  I thought, oh well why the hell not? and had my Lavellan kiss him after he brought it up again.  The romance flag didn't actually lock her into it, however, and Solas will continue to call her Lethallan and Friend; neither will Sera, Vivienne, or the gossipers acknowledge their romance.  I was then free to pursue the Cullen romance, because I assumed what happened must have been a fluke.  I just headcanoned that they decided it couldn't work out and it was some time later (after Cullen's personal quest, Perseverance, in fact) that I initiated the Cullen romance.  Cullen's romance will lock in, and be acknowledged in his dialogue and outside gossip.

 

At the Winter Palace, Lavellan can request a dance from both Cullen and Solas, but it will be Cullen who will pursue her on the balcony to dance.

 

The end, after the Temple of Mythal, was when things became interesting.  Solas's romance scene does trigger and my Lavellan had the choice to remove her vallaslin (I decided to keep it so things wouldn't get too bizarre).  Solas's tarot card actually changed, too, despite his romance not being the active one.  The end scenes play out exactly as if she's romancing Cullen and Solas.  Here are some screenshots:

 

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Danngg gurrrll.

[HurricaneGinger]

That ain't sexy though lol. We all know he has fine dewy skin.

 

Sorry, I could think of was Wild Bill saying that and I was just

 

[Eivuwan]

I posted about this in the Cullen thread, but I'm guessing it's possible some people might be interested in this exploit/bug I encountered.  I'm not 100% if it's repeatable, but I was able to romance both Cullen and Solas fully until the end of the game- intact.  I didn't do intentionally, it just sort of happened and I rolled with it until the end out of curiosity.  Here's how it happened:

 

My Lavellan kissed Solas in the Fade and then immediately after when she woke up, she agreed with Solas that it was best to remain friends by hitting the broken heart icon.  Despite this, Solas acknowledged the kiss after his personal quest on the balcony.  I thought, oh well why the hell not? and had my Lavellan kiss him after he brought it up again.  The romance flag didn't actually lock her into it, however, and Solas will continue to call her Lethallan and Friend; neither will Sera, Vivienne, or the gossipers acknowledge their romance.  I was then free to pursue the Cullen romance, because I assumed what happened must have been a fluke.  I just headcanoned that they decided it couldn't work out and it was some time later (after Cullen's personal quest, Perseverance, in fact) that I initiated the Cullen romance.  Cullen's romance will lock in, and be acknowledged in his dialogue and outside gossip.

 

At the Winter Palace, Lavellan can request a dance from both Cullen and Solas, but it will be Cullen who will pursue her on the balcony to dance.

 

The end, after the Temple of Mythal, was when things became interesting.  Solas's romance scene does trigger and my Lavellan had the choice to remove her vallaslin (I decided to keep it so things wouldn't get too bizarre).  Solas's tarot card actually changed, too, despite his romance not being the active one.  The end scenes play out exactly as if she's romancing Cullen and Solas.  Here are some screenshots:

 

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I have to admit. That's pretty funny.

 

Edit: oh top of page

 

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[electricfish]

Mask of the Betrayer is one of the best PC RPGs of all time! (In my opinion.) SQUEE!!!

 

EDIT: Oh, shoot. Thinking about it made me realize I haven't played this game since before I discovered DAO back in summer 2011, and I didn't even get a chance to finish it because of a virus that melted my computer. =(

 

Aww! I'm disappointed that you erased all your character thoughts. I actually agree with you about Ammon Jerro being Loghain. I forgot about our brief Wardens that show up. That was an accurate character write up.

 

One reason I didn't choose Leliana is because of her faith crisis and ruthless pragmatism in DAI. There isn't really a better fitting character than Cassandra since no one else is really as religious as she is, which is a big part of Kaelyn's personality. She IS the embodiment of good, and follows Illmater, the god of martyrdom and endurance in suffering. Might as well say the Divine is Kaelyn, lol. Or even the spirit that embodied her.

 

I'm thinking dead whispers Myrkul is Corypheus since that jerk is the one who unleashed the Mask to begin with. He might be dead (Blighted) but he can still gain influence, followers, and make a severe nuisance of himself to a Knight Captain who is just trying to put things back in order and go home.

[Rabbitonfire]

Come to think of it. It's weird how some major characters have last names and some don't. It's almost like it's random.

Probably because last names are for people with influence. Otherwise they probably based their name on who they're sons of, a group, a job or a place. So Ander's father is Ander Sr: Anderson ( Ander's son), so Ander Anderson. Or Ellisa LaVellan (Ellisa of Clan Lavellan). Or Smaug Smith of Lonely (mountain)... or Smaug LonelySmith.. or they could just take the name of their local lord.

[dragondreamer]

Pretty sure Tevinter dealt the last blow to Arlathan, after which they enslaved all the elves.  (As far as we know, there was a war, and the Old Gods were the ones who encouraged Tevinter to attack Arlathan.)  Infighting among the elves was simply what allowed it to be successful.  Arlathan was likely crushed and buried by Tevinter mages.  But I don't believe they sank it far enough to be the Black City, if it is at the center of the world.  I think that is something else, tainted for much longer a time.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[electricfish]

Yep. You'll notice that most of the characters with last names have an identifiable house behind them, or some kind of legacy. Pentaghasts, royal family and famed dragon hunters of Nevarra. Tethras, of the dwarven House Tethras. Vael, of Starkhaven's ruling family. Dorian Pavus, of house Pavus in Tevinter where bloodlines are made of diamonds and gold.

[madrar]

That conversation always makes me wonder if Dagna has Stone Sense.  That's what they called it in DAO I think.  But the dwarves have all since lost their stone sense.  The Titan thing could be it too.  The Titan blood grants "stone sense"? I am sure smarter people than me can come up with something.

 

*brace for theory*

 

I'm still working out how I feel about this one, but what I believe that Dwarves conceive of as "Stone sense", is the actual brain of the being inside Thedas.  Or that is Thedas, really.  The Stone: Mythal's God-Dragon egg.  Lyrium acts like a combination nervous system and circulatory system: physical blood that connects them all and forms a Hive Mind.  Or not so much a hive mind- just... a single, whole being.  Like your physical body is a collection of cells, but wouldn't call yourself a "hive mind".  Right?

 

Only in this case, part of your immune system (the Dwarves) have developed a degree of identity independent from you, and are now selling your blood and nerves to humans.    ...because they've forgotten, and don't know any better.

 

Anyway, Stone sense is the ability to hook back into the brain of that larger being.  To reconnect to its spirit.  

[MaidenM]

No one is asking the right question. What is Solas' last name?

 

I don't know what it used to be, but from now on it is Lavellan.

[Eivuwan]

 

 

Definitely possible. I've been thinking a lot about what I read the other day about the Band of Three and what they gathered about Kirkwall's construction.

Here's a spoiler quote if you want to read it in full.

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The Band of Three disagreed with the then-accepted theory that the Tevinter Imperium came to Kirkwall for its natural harbor and mineral wealth. They also note that Maferath attempted and failed to march on the city, but could not fathom why he would do so to begin with. Suspecting a greater reason, they continued their research, delving into continually more dangerous situations.

 

Upon acquiring some rare texts from Kirkwall's black market, the Band realized the city had hidden undercity passages which had housed Tevinter researchers. As they explored the passages, they wondered why Kirkwall's magical research was hidden, when so many other cities in the Imperium studied it publicly. Eventually, a stonemason showed the Band a map of Kirkwall, and the writer saw that the city had been built according to magical symbols; this, apparently, is why Kirkwall is very easy to get lost in.

 

During the Tevinter Imperium in Kirkwall, a large number of slaves would disappear every year. Though Kirkwall was a slave-trading hub and required large numbers of slaves in order to work the mines, the Band notes that roughly one of every ten slaves went missing, a disproportionately high number.

 

One of the notes mentions that the Band was eventually attacked by maleficarum, resulting in "V" being severely injured and perhaps his or her death. Interestingly, they note that Kirkwall's Circle of Magi has consistently had problems with blood mages and Harrowing deaths ("almost double that of Starkhaven or Ostwick"), something consistent with Hawke's experiences in Kirkwall.

 

During their research, the Band found some disturbing records about Kirkwall's architecture. The city's sewers have grooves that lead downward, apparently for blood sacrifice. They note that blood magic from a simple cut is already very powerful, and could not understand why the Imperium needed blood magic on the scale of thousands of slaves a year.

 

Eventually, the Band's research culminates in the discovery that the Imperium had been deliberately weakening Kirkwall's already thin Veil, though they do not know for what purpose. It can be inferred from the notes that Kirkwall's design was intended to be used as part of a blood ritual to do this, perhaps in order to summon demons like the Forbidden Ones.

 

The final note left by the Band suggests that they may have attempted to recreate the magister's lore they gathered. Whatever they did killed "F" and left the writer severely injured. The last member of the Band returned to seal whatever they released, saying the knowledge they had gathered must be destroyed.

Otherwise, TL;DR: Kirkwall was constructed as a CITY-SIZED, SHAPED GLYPH. It's sewers held downward grooves FOR BLOOD MAGIC RITUALS. Personally, I think this is not the first time magic of this scale was attempted. But I fully acknowledge that that is opinion.

 

 

Ohh nice idea. Maybe it's not limited to kirkwall. Maybe in the next game, we find out that Solas' plan is to bring down the veil or whatever by creating a glyph that stretches all over Thedas. Then we either have to help him construct the glyph or break down the major points so that the pattern would be broken. Maybe each point would be guarded by a monster or something.

[Mims]

I try to imagine Bioware writers, consulting Bioware artists: "And don't forget to change horns shape in these two images, that will serve as a minor decoration on a landscape". Does it work this way? As I'm not even an artist, I really have no idea.

 

From my experience working as an illustrator, not often. I don't know how bioware's office runs itself, but usually an artist predominantly interfaces with the art director, not the writers. Which is why I always hesitate about relying too much on the art assets to formulate theories. Its fun! But, most artists don't work with the writers over their shoulders.