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This just made my day LOL spoiler because of the size hahah

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Don't forget to add a source link to the original artist's site! ;)

 

Source: http://msartisticstu...ughts-503982202


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Right, but I think the bug part is the lethallan/my friend bit, particularly since you still get the vallaslin scene.

He'll also tell her that what they had was real before he leaves, too.  I'm unsure if it was intended for him to bring up the kiss after they agreed to be friends and the bug was the romance flag not fully locking, or if the bug was Solas's romance continuing in cutscenes when it was supposed to end.  Evidence points to both, since his romance plays out completely the same after Temple of Mythal.  A question for Weekes, perhaps?

 

edit: I tweeted Weekes to ask if it was intended for Solas to bring up the kiss again.  I'm curious.



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There's the Avaar religion. The game says that they believe there are gods in everything, so it's an animistic(sp?) religion, but I'm not sure what real world relgion it parallels, if any, since that's basically all the information I got from Scout Harding.

 

The Avvar religion has similarities with some Native American religions (which vary from tribe to tribe). The Avvar shamans in particular seem inspired by the tradition of medicine people.


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Speaking of the influence of religion and other real world philosophy on this game, I think it's clear that the game draws upon Abrahamic religions, Greek mythology, and Communism (the Qunari). Are there any other major belief systems that I missed? Sometimes I wonder what the game would look like if some of the races/characters are based on Asian belief systems such as Daoism and Buddhism. It would be so fun if my Lavellan could have said something like this in response to a question of how she plans to rule.

 

"Governing a large country is like frying small fish. " ~Taken from the Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu

 

Oh yeah, gnosticism and hermeticism. I find it interesting how they have influence from both the more orthodox traditions, along side the more esoteric/occult ones. Well, it is a game with magic and mages after all.

 

I see a bit of eastern influence in there as well, but not sure if it is intentional at all, or just overlapping of similar ideas/philosophies found in both cultures. I saw more of that in Mass Effect than in Dragon Age.



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Odd..the picture link isn't working...anyway...  Pretty Romantic Solas Art.

 

http://ladytheirin.d...ellan-506728801



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The American voice seemed too deep for my Lavellan, but I mainly picked the British accent because I just like to hear British accents (I have an American accent myself). LOL.  How have you liked the American accent for the emotional scenes? I'm thinking of using that one if I ever get around to making a female qunari.

 

I was planning on going DA:O style accents even to begin with, but overall the American voice fit my Lavellan better because I wanted a deeper, more mature sort of voice for her.  She's also got a mellow sound that fits what I wanted for her personality.  Emotional scenes are good, she's got a good rough edge when she's angry, a softer tone when she's sympathizing with someone, very sultry when flirty, and then there's the...heartbreaking parts. :( 


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Has anybody done the Solas romance with the American accent? I don't think I've seen a single non-British Lavellan, haha.  I'm curious if it's good!

There is a full gameplay video with that voice on youtube.. I just personally don't like that version as much.. because... well she does not have as much the emotion as Samantha Traynor lol also took a while for me to realise that the american one is the voice actor of Nyreen n__n'''

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Speaking of the influence of religion and other real world philosophy on this game, I think it's clear that the game draws upon Abrahamic religions, Greek mythology, and Communism (the Qunari). Are there any other major belief systems that I missed? Sometimes I wonder what the game would look like if some of the races/characters are based on Asian belief systems such as Daoism and Buddhism. It would be so fun if my Lavellan could have said something like this in response to a question of how she plans to rule.

 

"Governing a large country is like frying small fish. " ~Taken from the Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu

I see some parallels between the involution of the Dalish and the fall of the Aztec/Mayan empires.  Have we examined the Ancient Egyptian pantheon for parallels?  Of course, that would be similar to the Greeks, since the two civilizations borrowed pretty freely from one another, with Egyptian beliefs forming the basis of more than a few Greek myths.



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...I wonder if he's ticklish? :devil:

 

Will of steel until you poke the right place and he laughsnorts. Then you know you've won.  :lol:


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I'm no regular but I am wondering if anyone has taken Solas and Blackwall to Therinfall Redoubt.

Blackwall will call the Red Templars "traitors to their kin" and Solas will answer "Indeed. There are few crimes worses."

Methinks he was talking about the other elven gods there.

 

It makes you wonder if the Dalish are truly entirely wrong about him or if he just sincerely regrets it.

 

Solas has the best butt in Thedas. :D I just keep hearing "Baby Got Back" in my head every time I see a side shot of his butt like that.

 

Apparently, elves use to be built a LOT differently. I won't lie: I've angled the camera a few times just so...


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My character did a Solas Romance with the American VA, and.. It's really not has emotion filled as Alix (( Is that her name?)) But It fits a strong/stoic character pretty well, which is what I was aiming for. 



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The Avvar religion has similarities with some Native American religions (which vary from tribe to tribe). The Avvar shamans in particular seem inspired by the tradition of medicine people.

And what about the Nevarrans, with their elaborate necropoleis?  Apparently such things were a common practice in the ancient world, and not tied to any one culture.  Is there a correlate for Nevarra in our world?



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Will of steel until you poke the right place and he laughsnorts. Then you know you've won.  :lol:

 

Can we talk for just one moment about the laughsnort and how amazingly beautiful and DEVASTATING it is?

 

First playthrough:

 

Me: OK, I'm interested in Solas, but I'll try to be open-minded about the LIs.

Solas: *chucklesnort* Was that a serious question?

Me: TAKE MY LAVELLAN NOW

 

Second playthrough:

 

Me: Man Adaar, you are my only hope for not romancing Solas.

Solas: *chucklesnort* Was that a serious question?

Me: ...goddamn it, Solas, now I'm back in feelz hell.  You stupid f***er.


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Wish my Lavellan could actually say this LOL

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I was planning on going DA:O style accents even to begin with, but overall the American voice fit my Lavellan better because I wanted a deeper, more mature sort of voice for her. She's also got a mellow sound that fits what I wanted for her personality. Emotional scenes are good, she's got a good rough edge when she's angry, a softer tone when she's sympathizing with someone, very sultry when flirty, and then there's the...heartbreaking parts. :(

Oooh, excellent! I think I'll definitely use that voice for my qunari then. Now, I just have to find time to actually do a qunari playthrough.

Will of steel until you poke the right place and he laughsnorts. Then you know you've won. :lol:

Awww, I love that laugh snort he does at the beginning when you ask him if he's with the Chantry. :wub:

Edit: top of page Solas SFW
http://ganumedes.dev...-Mind-465450107
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Wish my Lavellan could actually say this LOL

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slow sobbing


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It makes you wonder if the Dalish are truly entirely wrong about him or if he just sincerely regrets it.

 

 

Apparently, elves use to be built a LOT differently. I won't lie: I've angled the camera a few times just so...

 

Those ancient elves do know how to keep their bodies fit. ;)

 

And I sometimes do the camera thing too...  :ph34r: 

 

Can we talk for just one moment about the laughsnort and how amazingly beautiful and DEVASTATING it is?

 

First playthrough:

 

Me: OK, I'm interested in Solas, but I'll try to be open-minded about the LIs.

Solas: *chucklesnort* Was that a serious question?

Me: TAKE MY LAVELLAN NOW

 

Second playthrough:

 

Me: Man Adaar, you are my only hope for not romancing Solas.

Solas: *chucklesnort* Was that a serious question?

Me: ...goddamn it, Solas, now I'm back in feelz hell.  You stupid f***er.

 

The snorts in his laughs destroy me every time.

 

Every. Damn. Time. 

 

Solas come back pls...



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You know what I find both hilarious and sad about Solas's view on the Qun?  He's not that different from the qunari in his perspective on peoples' essential nature.

 

Saarebas, DA2: Existence is the only choice.  I can't choose to not be.

Solas, DA:I: We cannot change our nature by wishing.

 

EDIT: Just realized that in both quests, it falls to Varric to be the voice of change.  Maker bless you, Varric.

 

Well, maybe that's why Solas and Iron Bull gets along in the end anyway. They recognize that they are similar in ways. In regards to changing your nature, it really depends on what you mean by nature. For example, I think it would be cruel to force a tiger to act like a dog or an elephant to eat meat. I actually agree with Solas' view that one should work with one's nature instead of forcing an unnatural change. I think most people would be happier that way. Like Solas said, change for the sake of change is not necessarily good (something like that).



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You know what I find both hilarious and sad about Solas's view on the Qun?  He's not that different from the qunari in his perspective on peoples' essential nature.

 

Saarebas, DA2: Existence is the only choice.  I can't choose to not be.

Solas, DA:I: We cannot change our nature by wishing.

 

EDIT: Just realized that in both quests, it falls to Varric to be the voice of change.  Maker bless you, Varric.

Well the funny thing about extremes is that the continuum they form is circular.  But yes, Solas and the Qunari are similarly...well, I guess the word is ruthless.  Perhaps it is kinder to say utilitarian, the the sense of the term wherein actions are always calibrated to produce the best outcome for the greatest number of people...no matter what happens to everyone else.  And yes, for someone who is such a proponent of free will, Solas seems to have a very fixed idea of what his role must be.  Remember the banter he and Varric have about the man who lives alone on the island?  Solas is much more worried about seeing the dwarves take up their "proper" place in the world, i.e., recapture their fabled lost glory.  

"How can you be happy surrendering, knowing it will all end with you?" Solas asks, when Varric doesn't seem overly concerned about his people's fate.  To Solas, surrendering is synonymous with defeat, but surrender can also mean acceptance.  


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Hey guys! Apologies if I'm interrupting any conversations, but I have a question.
So I was rewatching the Temple of Mythal cut scenes and it had me inquiring about something. If you don't Solas with you (blasphemy) does Abelas still leave peacefully? If yes, who convinces him to venture forth then.
And Abelas says "You have the features of those who call themselves elvhen. You bear the mark of magic which is...familiar." Then later he has that conversation with Solas about elven such as you. I remember awhile back someone was saying he was talking to Solas the first time, not your Lavellan. Was this ever proven? Has anyone tried to not take Solas along (blasphemy) to see what happens?

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I know this will sound weird but this is just a question about pure definition. I don't want to ask the Devs because I KNOW they will think I'm a weirdo. But I just want to know for the sake of knowing how sacrifice works.

 

Blood magic is done with blood. Can you do it with menstrual blood? I mean why not? Does it have to be taken violently? Cramps seem pretty violent. Plus there is some dissolved flesh in there so you get like extra sacrifice. 

 

It's such a weird question i know this is going to be screen shotted for being so strange. But i just want to know for the sake of knowing definitions in blood magic. The implications both ways would be a lot. 


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I see some parallels between the involution of the Dalish and the fall of the Aztec/Mayan empires.  Have we examined the Ancient Egyptian pantheon for parallels?  Of course, that would be similar to the Greeks, since the two civilizations borrowed pretty freely from one another, with Egyptian beliefs forming the basis of more than a few Greek myths.

Their similarity to the Egyptian pantheon depends on how "human" the elven gods end up being. Even though there was a certain amount of syncretism, the Egyptian gods always had a lot less personality than the Greek gods. You've also got a lot more personifications of concepts (like Ma'at being the goddess of truth, justice, and the "right" way to live, but also literally embodied the concept). The Greek gods, however, were more like people. Warts and all. Many of them were hilariously flawed. In a way, the Egyptian gods remind me more of spirits.

 

The Dalish myths make me think that the Creators, as the Dalish appreciate them, are somewhere in the middle of the Egyptian and Greek pantheons. They aren't the selfish incestuous soap opera that are the Greek gods, but they're more relatable than the Egyptian gods. They're also mostly depicted as helping the elves, with Fen'harel as the only capricious one. The gods of both the Greek and Egyptian pantheons were waaay less charitable than that.

 

Actually, even though it isn't really my area of expertise, they remind me a lot of the Norse gods. I've seen some great Odin-Fen'harel parallels made.


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I still think that hat looks adorably awful.  :lol:

If only they'd fix the fact that it clips into his face...

 

Seeing how he's the only one wearing it, I imagine a scene where the outfits are presented, and everyone's like 'yeah... no' to the hat... And Solas comes in all 'why, what a marvelous piece of headwear!' before perching it proudly atop his dome. And my Lavellan trying not to laugh while telling him, 'yes. Solas, it's very dashing...' Even if a mod did come out to remove it, I think I'd leave it on. :D


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Wish my Lavellan could actually say this LOL

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LOL! Me too. It would spare us the heartbreak. Maybe. :P

 

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Source: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Dream-Lover-503060046

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Here's another Solavellan artwork. NSFW for nudity.

 

http://www.deviantar...ellan-505351103


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Awww, I love that laugh snort he does at the beginning when you ask him if he's with the Chantry. :wub:

 

That's the thing that always hooks me on him whenever I start a new playthrough! He needs to laugh more, it's terribly charming. That one compilation had only like 5 laughs in it!