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#54426
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I believe the answer is the Individual.  I'm too fried from wrapping my mind around the orb to get into it much, but the veil divides the world into Possibility and Will,  Fade and physical Blood, two halves which together create the magic of Choice: it creates a world where change has meaning.  It's all very Miltonesque.  Free Will, the exercise of Choice- it's all meaningless in a world where change is just temporary, illusory. The Fall from Eden wasn't a punishment.  It was done on purpose.  Willingly.  
 
It is the broken hallelujah of Cohen.  A world where existence has an intensity, a weight to it that would not have been possible in "Eden".  And even though it's achieved at a price of cyclical pain, death, and betrayal, there is yet a measure of joy and beauty that would have been unattainable without the Fall, and is all the more precious for it.  
 
That, I believe, is why the veil was created- and this is why Solas fights so hard to maintain the Balance that makes Choice both possible and significant, no matter the cost.  Peace without the preservation of Free Will, without Choice, is the same as defeat.


I don't know how many pages back I am, but this, I think, is really interesting and well said. According to the Chant of Light, the Maker made his first children (the spirits) and then lamented that they never made anything new and nothing lasted. Then he made his second children outside the fade so that so that things held their form, or as you said change and choice mattered. I like that.


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Can you pretty please flycam the moment when Solas grasps Lavellan's hand & shoves it into the first rift? I'd LOVE to see that at another angle because - need MOAR Solas facial expressions.

A closeup of the broken orb would be amaaaaazing.  @w@


I'll make a list. ^_^

(Last time I asked for request on Tumblr I didn't get any, this is a nice change.)



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 I do this occasionally just to keep the non-Solas clutter down.  owo;   Bioware doesn't really have an official "drop your crazy theories here" spot.  The game world is all connected, sure, but some of these theories have really tenuous relation to the character, which has got to be irritating to people who come here primarily for art, fic, and commiseration. 

Well theories fall under character and story, though, right?  I would assume that has more to do with the story forum than Scuttlebutt, which says:

 

 

Discuss rumors, journalism, convention coverage and social media surrounding Dragon Age: Inquisition.

 

 

Art and fiction has it's own subforums too.  But it still makes sense for art and fiction to pop up in these character threads, since they directly tie into it.

 

*shrug*



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Oh jeez... How has Bioware treated my heart?

Dragon Age: Origins --> Alistair. Did a rogue Cousland first playthrough, so that turned out AWESOME. Minus him banging another chick for our joint survival. I loved my Zevran playthroughs though too!

 

I don't get the hang up with the OGB thing.  If literally the thing that saves all our lives is my bf has to sleep with my best friend and conceive a witch baby, I'd be like 'do it?  I'll be reading in the next room. see you in 5 min.' 



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I'm dumbfounded how quickly we go through this cycle on just one day. 


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Listen I'm not saying I'm about to troll Tumblr for James Deen, but I'm about to go troll Tumblr for some James Deen. Thanks a lot.

I'm coming back with safe for work gifs so everyone's on the same page with this man.
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Here's a better question anyway do you save your LI or do you save the entire rest of the inquisitions inner circle. Including Krem, Dagna and Lace.

 

Solas wins... Reasons? (In this scenario I'm imagining Lavellan now knows who he is and that his plans are not 100% dastardly)

 

My elven characters are always very pro-elf, there's no Sera like characters in my saves, they are not against humans or other races but the elven people come first every time.  While it would break her heart, saving Solas would be the sensible thing to do as his knowledge would be irreplaceable... that would absolutely be the only reason for saving him, no other reasons at all, absolutely none..... Whaaaaat???????

 

after saving Solas she'd be trying her best to save Dagna, but I guess that's not allowed in this scenario.



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I'm dumbfounded how quickly we go through this cycle on just one day.


Accurate.

Or more accurate, multiple times a day.
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#54434
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Can you pretty please flycam the moment when Solas grasps Lavellan's hand & shoves it into the first rift?  I'd LOVE to see that at another angle because - need MOAR Solas facial expressions.

I want to see his face when he takes you to the last romance scene from Lavellans view. Kinda like one going about with Cullen...he got hilariously close in one shot.



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Listen I'm not saying I'm about to troll Tumblr for James Deen, but I'm about to go troll Tumblr for some James Deen. Thanks a lot.

I'm coming back with safe for work gifs so everyone's on the same page with this man.

..."On the same page" Color me intrigued.



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Huh.

 

*ninjas in, takes a quiet seat in the back to observe*


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Man I have so many pages to catch up LOL. I was busy playing my Lavellan yesterday and I'm behind like 50 pages now. 

 

Anyway there are a couple of topics I wanted to address before the thoughts leave me.

 

RE: Solas doing whatever is necessary to further his end goal, whatever that is. (End justifies the means)

I believe this is a true assumption of his character. I think that being part of the Inquisition might have helped him realize that pulling a Warden move is not always the answer to everything, and that there are irreplaceable people in this "world" that are worth fighting and dying for. (Lavellan :police:)

However towards the end, as much as he wants to tell you everything, he realized at that point when he was willing to forget his past, that he needed to toughen his heart and resolution. Lavellan got to him bad but he sacrificed his love for duty and an old guilt. So I'm actually expecting more of an extreme Morrigan out of him. Lots of questionable choices but all for the sake of a greater good for the Elvhen. Now whether we think those are necessary choices are another matter. I'm mentally preparing myself for the worst, but I've always said that Solas has the greatest potential for an amazing story. I don't think they'll throw him into a cliche villain mold but we should prepare ourselves for some drama and angst. There are tough choices coming our way.

 

I don't think they'll make him a cliche villain. Patrick Weekes specifically said in the NerdAppropriate interview that if someone says "Write me a villain," he'll do a passable job; but the best he can get is this mean, snarky, taunting villain, like the Nightmare's voice. (When the party's in the Fade at Adamant and the Nightmare taunts everyone with their greatest fears and shames - apparently Weekes wrote that portion.) Good enough, but not great. However, when someone says, "Write someone who truly believes they're doing something for the greater good, and might make what they know are questionable choices to make it a reality," his writing shines. And that's how he started off answering his Solas-portion of the interview. I don't think BioWare would start Solas' character off as this sympathetic, complex, good-intentioned, well-meaning extremist if they just planned on throwing it all away and made him a straight-up villain like Corypheus or Nightmare.

 

In that, I think we're safe.

 

RE: Solas being really prejudiced toward the people of Thedas. Is he racist?

I wouldn't go to an extreme like that however he can come off really strong and negative toward all the races, including modern Elves. I think he glorifies the Fade and spirits too much, the old days of Arlathan (even with all the negatives, I think he misses his people greatly) that the rest of the people just seem disappointing and predictable. He can come off a bit Xenophobic in some of his comments (I'm referring to the things he tells an Inquisitor he dislikes, heck even a confession in the balcony) but I wouldn't necessarily call him "racist", at least I haven't heard anything that made him that questionable. I do think he gives Lavellan a hard time, especially if you're RPing a hardcore Dalish Lavellan. When I first interacted with him, I was downright offended about his comments. As you get to know him better, not even romanced, but as a friend you can see the change in him slowly. I really enjoy that character progression. I wish there would've been a way to introduce him to our clan. Show him that not all elves are like those he has come in contact with in the past.

 

Bolded: Great, now you've given me a fanfic idea.

 

On the rest: You can say that again. I like Solas a lot, and my Lavellan fell fast and hard, but it did consistently bother... well, both of us that he is so disdainful of the Dalish. While he can become more open-minded, acknowledge their positive points, and even accept that they're important to Lavellan even if they aren't important to him (*ahem*SERA), it did kind of bother my Lavellan that he didn't accept her people, who she considered a huge part of who she was.

 

To end my post, have a beautiful runaway Solas!   :wizard:

(This is how I see him post-ending. May the Blighted Wolves take you Solas!)

Big images be big.

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C'est belle!  :kissing:


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#54438
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I'm dumbfounded how quickly we go through this cycle on just one day. 

 

I'd really like to see the cycle go backwards, sometime.  Like... smut that becomes tinfoil hat theories.  

 

That'd be some interesting theorycrafting.  =w=

 

*wanders off, brain still sizzling a bit*


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Huh.

*ninjas in, takes a quiet seat in the back to observe*


*hugtackles*
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I think I've realized I don't necessarily want a Wolf Hunt DLC... more like I want/need/require a romance DLC specifically for Solas, just so we can have moar beautiful scenes between him and Lavellan.  I read a fanfic where he sings to her in Elven and normally I'm like lolz so cheesy eww but WHEW SOLAS SINGING?  AND GARETH IS A HEAVY METAL SINGER?  SIGN ME UP RIGHT NOW <3


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*hugtackles*

Well, there went my stealthy entrance.


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#54442
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Well, there went my stealthy entrance.


I see everything.

#54443
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I want to see his face when he takes you to the last romance scene from Lavellans view. Kinda like one going about with Cullen...he got hilariously close in one shot.

Clipping into your character's face is a horrifying experience but I'll add it to the list.
(I even posted two pics like that some pages ago.)

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#54444
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I see everything.

Down, Sauron. :lol:

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I'd really like to see the cycle go backwards, sometime.  Like... smut that becomes tinfoil hat theories.  

 

That'd be some interesting theorycrafting.  =w=

 

*wanders off, brain still sizzling a bit*

I find that difficult given the ambiguity of the fans romance interpretation.  Plus some people speculate him morphing into a wolf (or a dire wolf to be precise)when under duress or raging ....

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Maker guide me to the light and protect me. 


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I'm sorry, but what does 'wtb' mean?

 

Oh haha sorry :) It's shorthand from playing too many MMOs. wtb = want to buy. Basically I was saying I wished after he said fixing the orb wouldn't recover what was lost, I wish we could have asked him what was lost.



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Clipping into your character's face is a horrifying experience but I'll add it to the list.
(I even posted two pics like that some pages ago.)

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I-I think I love you. 



#54449
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Hmmmm....that does sound unhealthy. While I apparently tend to be a masochist in Bioware game, IRL I've been with my guy for over 5 years. Though I suppose he is the complicated sort. If he hadn't have been so different I probably would have been bored like I was with the rest of them. So maybe you just have the find the right, complicated person. XD

 

Maybe, you never know. ^^

Unfortunately with my agoraphobia that isn't happening anytime soon. The stalker isn't helping much either. I can't even answer the door without having my tennis racket or one of my many, many, many kitchen knives in my hands (seriously I have way too many kitchen knives - I should probably sell some off in a garage sale or something).



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Clipping into your character's face is a horrifying experience but I'll add it to the list.
(I even posted two pics like that some pages ago.)

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That is not the face of a man about to break your heart. He loves you! Look at how much he loves you!


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