Just got out of running Coil with my goofy static in FFXIV. Came to this thread, feelin good. Nice victory happy going on. Saw there were some wonderful new flycam goodies to ogle. More happy.
But I just had to keep scrolling, right? And then..
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000449AF: Re-enable Solas
000449B0: I want Solas back.
:C
Just got out of running Coil with my goofy static in FFXIV. Came to this thread, feelin good. Nice victory happy going on. Saw there were some wonderful new flycam goodies to ogle. More happy.
But I just had to keep scrolling, right? And then..
000449AF: Re-enable Solas
000449B0: I want Solas back.
:C
Accurate 
Have you seen the vid?
000449AF: Re-enable Solas
000449B0: I want Solas back.
:C
One of the best coders I know is helping me investigate what those lines are.. So far nothing but.. We wil lfind it
meanwhile have Solas Naughty hands 
mildly nsfw
As I'm sitting here pondering how much fun dealing with either a Qunari or a kossith invasion in DA4 would be, the Suebi just decided to re-enact the Cimbrian War for me a hundred and sixty ears too early in Rome II.
I guess horns and explosives do make things better.
EDIT: Siha, I have to respectfully disagree that Solas hasn't bonded with the Inquisition. Specifically, the line of dialogue about 'I will remember this. When this is over. The Inquisition standing against the chaos. It's...inspiring." I don't think he sees them on quite his level, but I think it does his grumpy, cynical, elf-bedding-side-benefit heart some good to see the Inquisition at work. And he gets along with Cassandra, Varric, Cole, and Dorian rather well. He even takes care of Bull after the Tal-Vashoth thing happens by pissing him off with chess and telling him he'll be there for him.
He probably won't let that slow his plans down. He'll just feel bad about doing it.
I agree about respectfully disagreeing. I think Solas *himself* didn't expect to find friends in the Inquisition, let alone fall in love. This has complicated his plans, whatever they are, but whatever he's about to do is so important to him that he's willing to abandon everything and everyone. I also agree that he'll feel terrible about it; if anything, he already feels terrible - from the end of the last battle and up to the end of the post-credits scene, his face is anything but happy.
Edit: about not sharing his knowledge: apparently he tried to do this before, and it didn't go well. Then keep in mind that, if he reveals even one small fact, more questions will follow; but most of the things he knows are not something that people will easily believe in/accept, and even if they do, revealing them could potentially lead to trouble.
OMFG SOLAS YOU PERV.. not that I would mind it though... * pervy giggling. *
Just got out of running Coil with my goofy static in FFXIV. Came to this thread, feelin good. Nice victory happy going on. Saw there were some wonderful new flycam goodies to ogle. More happy.
But I just had to keep scrolling, right? And then..
000449AF: Re-enable Solas
000449B0: I want Solas back.
:C
^ So accurate.
I wanna do some Solas art and can't, because I'm waiting on a bloody cable for my tablet. Just built my new computer in large part for art (I could have spent half as much on some of these parts just for gaming), and I haven't done any damn art on it yet!
But the first one's going to be that damn egg. When that cable gets here!
Guest_Faerunner_*
Yes. What I wanted to point out (and maybe I should stop asking rhetoric questions here) is: he plays only his own game. If he has an interest in keeping the Inquisition and its people save, who knows. Maybe it does not matter to him at all. At least he does not act much upon it, even if it does. He keeps knowledge to himself, possibly also because you must be careful who to trust. If he revealed too much to the (beloved) inquisitor, this might turn out to be a huge mistake later on. I suppose, everybody is a pawn in his "game" and sacrificed or dragged along, whatever the situation demands. I simply do not think that any helpful thing he's done implies any sort of bonding with the inquisition or its followers. He helps them if it helps him, otherwise he does not.
I don't think that's entirely fair. Solas has shown many times that he wants to help people, hopes the Inquisition helps people, approves of the Inquisitor helping people (in fact, he's one of the few companions one who often actively approves of the Inquisitor helping people instead of reactively disapproving if the Inquisitor tells them to go die over there), and he also makes it clear that the whole reason he wanted to power the Orb in the first place was because he wanted to make what he thought was a better world for many people. He even sacrifices his own chance of happiness (being with Lavellan) for what he thinks is the greater good.
At the same time though, Solas seems to believe that wanting to help people and actually helping them are different things. He also seems to recognize that gain requires cost. You can't make big changes if you're not willing to make big sacrifices, and Solas wants to make such a huge change across all Thedas (I assume help the People everywhere, as they're second-class citizens at best pretty much across Thedas) that he feels it will require big sacrifice.
I feel this conversation with Dorian sums it up really well.
I don't think he was withholding the information because "Lah-dee-dah, I don't care about these people. They're pawns in my scheme to get the orb back. I know Corypheus is out there with the Orb and a mountain of magic that can flatten this place any instant, but I'm not going to tell these fools because if they die, it's no skin off my back. I can just run off and leave them." He doesn't leave the Inquisition. He helps save and rebuild it.
I stand by my theory that he probably believed that Corypheus had died in the explosion, or was severely weakened, or lost the Orb, or did not have enough power or followers to be a true threat, and was just as surprised as everyone else to learn, "Oh ****, the one that caused the Conclave explosion is back, he has the Orb, and he has a mage / Red Templar army and an Arch-freaking-demon. This is a game-changer!"
Solas makes mistakes. We see it many times in the game. It doesn't mean they're made out of callousness or carelessness.
Sorry to go off topic, again, but are we still doing the recreation of the elven pantheon art thing? If so, I tried to draw what Mythal might have looked like (pre-Flemmeth).
I wanted to do something dragon themed with horns because of how Flemmeth styles her hair in the shape of horns (and because Mythal's symbol is the dragon), but she kind of just ended up looking like a Qunari? Sorry, she wasn't intended to look like a Qunari but by the time I realized she looked too Qunari-esque, I had already flattened that part of the image.
The dark theme / running make-up is because I think of Mythal as being sad (Well of Sorrows, betrayal, etc). Plus I just like drawing smeared make-up, curse my addiction to the smudge tool. And I have a new-found respect for anybody who can draw hands. Holy frig I hate hands.
Spoilered for size.
Anyways, back to Solas!
Fae, Lliira, and Caddius have already said it better than I could when it comes to Solas and his feelings towards the Inquisition. Just adding my .02 that I agree with their views on it.
Accurate
Have you seen the vid?
Yes. Such feels. :C I am now getting flycam so I can load up some of my Lavellan saves and take some happier screenshots and vids to cheer myself up some.
You noticed! That's how I am going to tie all of the Pantheon together; by having bodysuits just like Solas
Thank you Mims and Patchwork!
Ever since I realized he seems to have some kind of undersuit thing going on, I've been imagining him and the other gods wearing tight bodysuit things. I keep thinking of like... the tight space suits in Prometheus and things like that. Or wetsuits. Or compression clothing.
Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think that leather bodysuit thing he has going on is some kind of compression suit to help with circulation and/or insulation. Maybe to do with uthenera?
Of course, I might just be putting too much thought into it. lol
Oh god, I thought Solas' twitchy arm was bad but Flemeth actually made me laugh. I mean, Bioware really did some gorgeous work with the animation in this game but it was really not meant to be looked at from new angles.
Knowing as we do that Solas is all about the butt, is it just me or are his awkward hand movements made even funnier if you instead imagine that he's trying desperately not to cop a feel of Flemythal's booty during that scene?
I wonder if Solas made the War Table. It was created from the Peace Tree that was cut down before Skyhold's foundations were laid. Which is more to suggest that Skyhold was originally some sort of rebel fortress or a rebellion magical science project (to create the veil?) or both. The Peace Tree was a symbol of peace between two factions, possibly the Creators and the Forgotten Ones?
I also feel like there must be a connection between Skyhold and Emprise du Lion. Solas makes little comments about there being few spirits in Emprise (possibly due to close proximity to the veil creation at Skyhold?), and that it reminds him of Skyhold. There's also Dalish legends connecting the Emprise hot springs with the story of Elgar'nan overthrowing his father the Sun. It's believed to be the location where Elgar'nan buried the Sun (hence the hot springs), and that's why it's considered sacred grounds to the Dalish. Perhaps the truth to the legend is that there was a war, and when Mythal intervened as in the story, they struck a truce, and the Peace Tree was placed in the area. Until a later time when Mythal was killed, and war started up again.
Perhaps the Creators and the Forgotten Ones escalated into using magic WMD and because the elves were magically bound to obey the gods, they had no choice but to die enmass in horrible ways as military science projects (Forbidden Ones and the Blight?), mass sacrifice (hello Andruil), or just plain cannon fodder (Falon'Din hay). Without Mythal, there was no stopping it, and Fen'Harel decided to put an end to it himself. If Fen'Harel was was originally the guardian of the elven pantheon, he was also probably something of their military leader (all of Solas' soldier talk), so he saw how terrible the casualties were firsthand. He may have approached the Forgotten Ones claiming to be a double agent, to gain their trust. As Felassan suggested, Fen'Harel was something like Briala, tripping up both sides. In this way he gained the trust of both sides, while secretly running his own group of rebels (maybe Felassan himself was among them) planning to seal away the gods and the creation of the veil was part of the plan. Skyhold and Fen'Harel's faction were probably invisible until their plan was successful and ancient elven society was running around headless.
It's amazing that the War Table could have survived for all those thousands of years when most of Skyhold was destroyed and rebuilt several times. I suppose someone might have stored it down in the undercroft.
About intertextuality and such. The Dragon Age series and Dune by Frank Herbert does have a lot in common. The Chantry is the Bene Gesserit, Inky is Muad'Dib and dragons are sandworms (oooh dragons are fade links to enable magic *slaps own face and sternly tells self to leave theory alone*). On top of the Dune correlations we have establised a plausible link to Miltons Paradise Lost.
Power corruption, the flawed and in the end powerless hero, the troublesome nature of choice and the god motif and so on. These are highly common stuff in modern lit, but as Bioware feed on tears they will twist this even further and I don't think it bodes well for the Inqusition. There is at least one choice made in this game that will come back to haunt us. In saving the world we are destroying it. As Hawke said (paraphrasing); The problem with changing the world is that it does that - change, and hardly ever in the way you expect it to.
I think I just fell out of team optimism. My butt hurt from the brutal landing. Help.
Here's the raw footage I used for the screenshots up top. In case you wanna see the final romance scene through Lavellan's eyes.
I had some trouble with the flycam at first so unfortunately I missed out on the first few seconds.
Also, there's plenty of horrifying face clipping, so be warned.
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This is nice. Now do the break up! Break-up! break-up! break-up! I like the head shaking.
Another nice piece of art. 
(Like I said before, don't mind me. )
Source: http://www.deviantar...lfire-506975909
I looked through the artist's tumblr and I'm pretty satisfied about how she portrays his eyes. Many prefer to make it larger than it is. Also, I like her Dorian. Dorian is nice.
Here are some screens from the final romance scene as seen through Lavellan's eyes.
Lots of large images as usual.
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Yeah, I intentionally stole the first-post spot. >.>
After this series of screenshots I feel now, more than ever, that his smile is the cutestthingintheworldahhhhh.
I looked through the artist's tumblr and I'm pretty satisfied about how she portrays his eyes. Many prefer to make it larger than it is. Also, I like her Dorian. Dorian is nice.
Same! I'm happy that Nokomento drew his eyes that way. Very Solas-y eyes. I seem to get Solas' eyes wrong when I draw him. I had to redo it many times, even if I have references. I'm just waiting for her to post that artwork on her tumblr so i could reblog it. xD
Yes, her Dorian is nice too! Actually, I like all her artworks of the DA:I characters.
Am I the only one who gets Solas to approve actually almost everything ö.Ö (by accident)
Am I the only one who gets Solas to approve actually almost everything ö.Ö (by accident)
No, you're not. He seems to approve of a lot of the things my Tala says and does. The only things he didn't approve of in my Lavellan PT were decisions like allying with the Wardens, making Cole human, or stopping him from killing the mages in his personal quest.
Although my canon romance is Morrigan, nothing beats the scenario where you have romanced Zevran, recruited Loghain, and now have zero stakes in the whole affair. Its just Morrigan awkwardly coming into your room, asking if she can bang Loghain.
I just imagine Zevran and my warden were like, "Of course you can, honey! You don't have to ask for permission or make up dark ritual nonsense...!"
Morrigan: ಠ_ಠ;
LMAO. That's actually my canon world state. Now that I think about it, my Mahariel must have been like, "Uhh... okay? I'll just be having lots of end-of-the-world sex with Zevran a few rooms over. Call us if you need us! *wink*"
*Faints dead away....*
Besides the fact that this picture is gorgeous, the lightening makes it very obvious that Solas has stubble.
Love it.
You can also see he has very very short hair on his scalp. Can be seen best by his ear.
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