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Shari'El

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I'm leaning more towards "elven gods stole from ancient dragons to achieve godhood"

 

Same, especially since

 

The blood of Great dragons can confer enormous power. According to Aurelian Titus in Dragon Age: Until We Sleep, the Dreamers of ancient times commanded The Fade. The last Tevinter magisters were close to reclaiming this power, and "All they needed was the blood of the Great dragons." He further states, "With it, I have tapped the power of gods."

 

http://dragonage.wik...ki/Great_dragon


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Theres no animation, otherwise they would show you the kiss. It's just two faces smashing against each other. Lip touching isn't included. That's why the scene shows them kissing from behind or something. The tongue has a texture but it has no rig. Resources could be better spent elsewhere. Maybe someday there will be kissing animation. Just not for another decade or two.

Oh I would be surprised if you'd have to wait that long... I'm predicting a fade-tongue mod in the next 12 months :)



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I'm more concerned that the time travel theory is correct. If you take the mage path, the way red lyrium Leliana mentions that to you, this is all just a future you can prevent, but to them it is real is sort of telling. I know its been connected before by others but yeah. We became important to Solas. More important than he could have imagined. He knows the world as it is, is real to us and we're becoming real to him. To stay with us, this world and everyone else in it would have to become the one that is real to him, and not just a future he can prevent.

OH GOD.
I pretend the time travel stuff didn't happen. Please not in Dragon Age. I hate time travel... I hope Cole just meant that the people in current Thedas have become real to him and that it complicates things because his plan will make them suffer. Because he was asleep so long the waking world seems like a nightmare to him. A nightmare he created and wants to wake up from by correcting his mistake. But now that he's grown to care for this nightmare version of his former reality, where does that leave him? Solas is deeply conflicted now. But he did choose his crusade by turning away from Lavellan. He will not seek her out again. He cannot afford to have doubts. He's severing his emotional connection to be able to carry the burden of his actions once again. So I get the uncomfortable feeling that we will not like his plan...

RE: Solas doing whatever is necessary to further his end goal, whatever that is. (End justifies the means)
I believe this is a true assumption of his character. I think that being part of the Inquisition might have helped him realize that pulling a Warden move is not always the answer to everything, and that there are irreplaceable people in this "world" that are worth fighting and dying for. (Lavellan :police:)
However towards the end, as much as he wants to tell you everything, he realized at that point when he was willing to forget his past, that he needed to toughen his heart and resolution. Lavellan got to him bad but he sacrificed his love for duty and an old guilt. So I'm actually expecting more of an extreme Morrigan out of him. Lots of questionable choices but all for the sake of a greater good for the Elvhen. Now whether we think those are necessary choices are another matter. I'm mentally preparing myself for the worst, but I've always said that Solas has the greatest potential for an amazing story. I don't think they'll throw him into a cliche villain mold but we should prepare ourselves for some drama and angst. There are tough choices coming our way.

I too see him as a more radical emotional and therefore messy version of Morrigan. They are both arrogant know-it-all but Morrigan has a much better grip on her emotions and has way better intuition. Of course she doesn't carry his burden... but right now I'd much rather put my fate in her hands.

I agree about Solas and Leliana both being the end justifies the means kind of people. To me they represent the dangerous dark side of idealism brought on by disillusionment. Leliana has a crisis of faith while Solas has a crisis about society. They hate the world as it is right now but do care about people a great deal. Both think radical change is necessary. Both are in an angry dark place in this game, and both can be softened up a bit.
I hope it will matter later if the inquisitor impressed him or confirmed his prejudice.
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Your inquisitor looks so young. I would feel like a 6000 year old pedophile.

 

Ha! Oh gosh when you think about it that's one hell of an age difference, though I'm sure none of our lavellan's have any problems with the experience he's accumulated through all those years  :P


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OH GOD.
I pretend the time travel stuff didn't happen. Please not in Dragon Age. I hate time travel... I hope Cole just meant that the people in current Thedas have become real to him and that it complicates things because his plan will make them suffer. Because he was asleep so long the waking world seems like a nightmare to him. A nightmare he created and wants to wake up from by correcting his mistake. But now that he's grown to care for this nightmare version of his former reality, where does that leave him? Solas is deeply conflicted now. But he did choose his crusade by turning away from Lavellan. He will not seek her out again. He cannot afford to have doubts. He's severing his emotional connection to be able to carry the burden of his actions once again. So I get the uncomfortable feeling that we will not like his plan...

I too see him as a more radical emotional and therefore messy version of Morrigan. They are both arrogant know-it-all but Morrigan has a much better grip on her emotions and has way better intuition. Of course she doesn't carry his burden... but right now I'd much rather put my fate in her hands.

I agree about Solas and Leliana both being the end justifies the means kind of people. To me they represent the dangerous dark side of idealism brought on by disillusionment. Leliana has a crisis of faith while Solas has a crisis about society. They hate the world as it is right now but do care about people a great deal. Both think radical change is necessary. Both are in an angry dark place in this game, and both can be softened up a bit.
I hope it will matter later if the inquisitor impressed him or confirmed his prejudice.

I actually see Solas as a wiser, more competent version of Morrigan who has a much better grip on his emotions and far better intuition. :)

Morrigan's had a lot of 'Stupid Evil' moments throughout her screentime, as well as intelligent ones. Being raised by a cackling elf god riding shotgun in a cackling apostate troll-grandmaster tends to have that effect. She's rather arrogant about her knowledge of ancient magic and elf language. Solas corrects her and she gets indignant. Solas is contemptuous, but honestly, I would too if I was a god and someone was boasting about how much they knew while getting so much wrong.

Inquisition lets us see one of her biggest mistakes, (Dismissing Mythal as either dead or non-existent, then accidentally binding herself to the one person she was trying to flee.) I loved that Inquisition showed us Morrigan completely screwing up, as well as standing up to Flemeth and having great moments. She's one of my all-time favorite Bioware characters along with Solas.

Solas is definitely the more radical one, though.

I guess a lot of this is just me getting bored of making fun of Solas for being Hawke x10 when it comes to screwing up.  :lol: We don't know what he actually did. We just have wonderful theories. It seems like Cole supports him as being right, whatever it was.

Then again, the 'you did it because you had to, not to be right. But you were right,' suggests he was being kind of an arrogant know-it-all about it.  :lol:

I kinda see Solas as a much older, more experienced version of Morrigan that was defined by his allegiance with his mother figure Mythal instead of his rebellion. (Ironically.) A version of Morrigan who had to do much darker deeds.

Definitely in agreement about the Solas Leliana parallels. :D

I also despise time travel outside of Doctor Who, and even then it can wear on my patience. But it's the best way of looking at real I've seen so far, which worries me.

Then again it will all be worth it if we can travel back in time to mess with the Dread(Locked) Wolf, Mythal, and Solas all at the same time.


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Oh I would be surprised if you'd have to wait that long... I'm predicting a fade-tongue mod in the next 12 months :)

That's optimistic. You can make a mod of them kissing like the other romantic companions but if tongue hasn't happened in skyrim modding, it's not going to happen in a bioware game. 



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Ha! Oh gosh when you think about it that's one hell of an age difference, though I'm sure none of our lavellan's have any problems with the experience he's accumulated through all those years  :P

The experience is irrelevant. While the younger person is a consenting adult, it'll be like dating one that turned 18 about 15 minutes ago. A lavellan wouldn't give a damn if pursuing him but you know. Gosh, this will be almost as bad as Nimue and Merlin. 

 

edit: Oh my god! nimue and merlin! A tragedy! 


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See?! The game should've had a warning label; Do not compare lore to exisiting literature and myth. It gets really depressing, really fast. 

 

But Lavellan sleeping with Solas to get him to teach her his magic is kind of funny...


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Solas... has a dangerous edge to him, hasn't he? It's his drive, his passion, his idealism and desire to do things "for the greater good". I'm an idealist myself (INFP type, "raging perfectionist" according to tvtropes), so I can understand how it goes. Sort of. You start off by thinking about people. You try to help them in a way that does not put anyone in danger. But it's not enough. It's never enough. Bad things still happen all around you. And then a moment comes when your emotions take over and you think: "Screw this! I'm going to change everything!" In this moment, ironically, you are not really thinking about people; the idea of "greater good" becomes separate and more important than anything else. You basically become detached from reality, with a pretty picture in your head obscuring everything. And if no one brings you down from the clouds, you'll go on like this. But the real world will never be as pretty as the picture in your head. Whatever you do, it'll never be enough. And you either learn to accept the world, imperfect as it is - or you keep trying, never quite getting there. There's a reason such characters tend to die in fiction. Ofc, I hope that Solas won't die, or that we'll be given a chance to spare his life. 


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Solas... has a dangerous edge to him, hasn't he? It's his drive, his passion, his idealism and desire to do things "for the greater good". I'm an idealist myself (INFP type, "raging perfectionist" according to tvtropes)

 

INFP sibling! Highfive!

 

Used to be an INTJ....



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I am bad at flycam ya'll. I tried to get really cozy scenes like Willow has been posting but I can't get the camera in the right angle fast enough and grr. I wanna send my Tiger saves to a pro and have the screenshots taken and dolled up so I can fawn over them. I will endure, however. Practice makes perfect I guess.

 

I did discover a Solas clone in fade-Haven though. Did anyone else find him? A default outfit Solas just idling near the door to the chantry the whole scene through. Weird.

 

Anyway, to get some practice in, I decided to opt for some field shots instead. Most of them were terrible or just made me laugh and I was gonna just trash bin them all. But then, I found this little gem:

 

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Tsk tsk Solas. If I didn't know any better - and I don't - I'd say you were checking out Tiger Festival's elven-glorious assets while her attention was on the dragon stomping around in the distance. I no longer feel any guilt for having her admire his at every opportunity.


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INFP sibling! Highfive!

 

Used to be an INTJ....

Highfive!  :lol:



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I think quite a lot of us here are actually INFP. I'm not surprised really lol.



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INFP sibling! Highfive!

 

Used to be an INTJ....

Can I get a mildly awkward handshake for our former association as INTJs?

If not, I'll just high-five Putin or something.  :lol: I was concerned when they listed him.


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See?! The game should've had a warning label; Do not compare lore to exisiting literature and myth. It gets really depressing, really fast. 

 

But Lavellan sleeping with Solas to get him to teach her his magic is kind of funny...

I can't help making parallels, it's just so fun but as you said it just makes things alot more tragic. 

 

Trading love for magic does sound pretty cool. If rift magic didn't suck so much. Sorry guy, but I felt rift magic was the lowest specialization for mages. The best that I did with romancing the character was trading love for lore. Paid off with knowing what slave markings were. Sure the romance was sad, but doesn't matter, got lore. So I win.


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I think quite a lot of us here are actually INFP. I'm not surprised really lol.

 

INFJ.  Sorta in the ballpark? :P


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Can I get a mildly awkward handshake for our former association as INTJs?

If not, I'll just high-five Putin or something.  :lol: I was concerned when they listed him.

 

They listed him as an INTJ?  :lol: Haha

 

I'm not entirely sure whether I am INFJ or INFP, I'm crossing between the P and the J too often.

So we're not that off apart? :D



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INTP, damn


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Seems like we lean towards the IN(F/T)(P/J) here :D

Fitting, the last two letters are a bit less relevant in that context.


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Well, at least one other INTP present
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Seems like we lean towards the IN(F/T)(P/J) here :D
Fitting, the last two letters are a bit less relevant in that context.


Yes Solas is such a trap for IN(F/T)(P/J) types...really not surprised. :P

(INTP here)
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INFP sibling! Highfive!

 

INFP here!

 

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I love this picture. He looks so happy and adorable <3___ <3

...

But wait. :huh:  I remember him looking at the pc with more... darker expression in this scene. Or it's just a few seconds ahead?



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INFJ.  Sorta in the ballpark? :P

INFJ as well!


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INFP sibling! Highfive!

 

Used to be an INTJ....

 

Just did the test earlier this afternoon. Turns out I'm an INFP as well. :D