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[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Sah291]

I agree, it's nice to have them not be protagonist-centric anymore and revolve around us, but sometimes I wonder if they make their lives a little more interesting than what they give to our protagonists?

 

THIS... I'll agree with. I think the origins for the Inquisitor could have been significantly more fleshed out. I would have LOVED for the game to have begun in Clan Lavellan, understanding and learning what this tribe of nomadic elves had desired to discover from the peace talks at the Temple of Sacred Ashes.

 

I guess this is the trade off for having so much choice to customize our characters. They have to take major plot actions out of our hands and give them to the companions/NPCs, just to keep the world state consistent.... I remember when I was playing DAO, I kept wondering why Alistair wasn't the main character/leader. When I played DA2, I wondered if Anders wouldn't have made the more interesting protagonist.

 

Actually I thought it would have been fascinating to play a possessed mage like Anders or Wynne.... but then I realized it would never happen because that kind of plot would be too hard to implement. The character would be possessed, but the player wouldn't be, so how would you simulate that? Not to go off on a meta tangent, but DAI gets close. With the missing background, and with the story starting where it does, I kind of had a creepy feeling like my Lavellan was possesed the whole game...especially with Solas and Cole breaking the fourth wall (and my immersion!) and talking about her spirit. Then I remembered she was, with mine. lol.

[Rabbitonfire]

I need references before I can accept the statement thst Buddhism involves thinking that suffering can be removed. I thought it was suffering can end.

I personally see a relation between Buddhist philosophy and the qun ever since da2 and I liked the rational enough to do a search on the qun. It focuses on the present. When u think of it its not very foreign at all.
Philosophy wise, similar. But as a civilization, very militant, like someone else said.

I know nothing about eastern philosophies but could Confucianism play a part in the qun? 

[Janic99]

I actually think that Solas, despite feeling bad that he lied Lavellan, thinks she she loves who he really is. She isn't enamored with his powers or reputation. She fell in love with a weak apostate mage with nothing to his name. It's a very magical version of "coming to america". And sometimes when you realize someone really loves you, it can hurt way more. And can be really confusing. Especially for someone as flawed as Solas. 

 

As for how it will end, I have no idea. I think they will meet again. And it's going to be something passionate and painful. I just want Solas to have a happy ending no matter what, but i'm not sure Weekes will let that happen. Even if he can't be with Lavellan, I want him to be at peace. 

 

They are always going to be connected because Lavellan has the last of his power. I know this is going to play into his story line somehow. And I think at one point she is going to have the option to give him what he wants, or deny him that. And that option will either save his soul or doom it. But in that moment you wont know which decision does what. 

 

Personally, I think the only happy ending would be if Solas would have no powers anymore. Just a normal mage with the ability to walk the fade. All his work and plans are what make him so unhappy. If he would just let that go and let himself be with Lavellan. Lose his immortality and work with her for a future. I think finally when he actually lives a life he will be happy. Growing old and sharing aging with someone else and finally not dying alone in bed in the arms of Lavellan would be his happy ending. 

I mean she does fall in love with him because he does not lie about his personality but I think Solas is afraid that she would change her mind after knowing his true name yes! I agree I want happy ending too more than anything. I cried too much of the Thane romance. I did know he was dying but... I didn't expect it to be.. like that and it was very bad way.. they kinda f*cked up the story.. sadly.. they should have made him die differently but I got to know that the original Thane's story writer left or something so yeah.. well we got what we got damn it haha THIS IS WHY I DON'T WANT THEM TO TAKE SOLAS AWAY FROM ME TOO T_T also... Alistair dumber me too because I made him a king and since I did not know that he would've been like '' you are dalish.. I cannot be with you cause you are not a queen material '' I was like: WHAT ARE MOTHER-- **** KIDDING ME Ö___Ö''ASD ÄKAWPHF* curses* 

Well maybe someday I'll play it again differently but sadly it was my first gameplay through so XD 

FENRIS ALSO LEAVES.. only one who actually came back. I want one of my bf's to stay and nothin bad happening to him -.- also I think that dread wolf has gone through enough sh*t during his life that he really deserves a happy ending for himself.

[Caddius]

Spoiler

I was raised by a clan of Lutherans and released into the wilds of the shall we say rather libertine West Coast. My father was the wild-eyed rebel among them, for he occasionally wore shorts.

Yea, though I browse through the thread of the shadow of NSFW,
I will fear no spoilers: For thou art with me;
Thy scientific curiosity and knowing a guy that's even father out there than this conversation, they comfort me.
Thou preparest maps before me in the presence of my frenemies;
Thou annointest the egghead with vallaslin remover; my soda cup runneth over.
Surely tinfoil hat theories and Sashimi's xenomorph fetish will follow me all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the thread forever.

[Mims]

Potentionally-Evil-And-Or-Blight-Riddled Elvhen. 

 

This has no basis in any theory, but.

 

But I have this feeling that if Solas is trying to free trapped elvhen, there's a good chance they're already long gone or riddled with madness. Or even worse- the elven gods may have figured out a way to trick him into opening their prisons by faking the presence of trapped "mortals". So Solas is putting forth all this time and energy and sacrifice for a lost cause/trap. 

 

Double worse theory- it could be exactly what Mythal wants. Putting Solas in the position where he'll have to fight and kill her betrayer. 

[Janic99]

I wanted to capture the "hot-blooded and cocky" elf, Solas mentions.  Also, there are a couple of really good fics out there (Crystal White, Path of the Dreamwalker to name two), both featuring a Solas'harel with a mane of luxurious locks.  I find it sexy as hell.  I like our egghead either way, just to be clear. 

Hahah XD I am probably the only one who finds him better looking without any hair XD it is cool to think he had hair as younger but yet I find it attractive that he has none later.. I love you my eggie<3

[Eivuwan]

Well I'm assuming to keep Solas alive, you have to sacrifice yourself so he can have the key back. You've been borrowing it for far too long, inquisitor.

 

With teamwork, they can find an alternative!

[Caddius]

I know nothing about eastern philosophies but could Confucianism play a part in the qun? 

Yep.

Confucianism is hard to pin-point as a religion. It's sort of a code of philosophies for living right and governing right, but it's also kind of religious, and it's kind of not, and....yeah.

This may just be my ignorance showing.

It also has a focus on stability, people finding their roles, education, was popular in China who were a highly advanced technologically and were one of the credited inventors of gunpowder, much like the Qunari.

Most tellingly, the Celestial Empire often had a system where Chinese children would frantically study for and take a test that would determine what kind of position they could get in the bureaucracy. Much like the Qun's priesthood tests and selects the children, just more college finals style.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Sashimi_taco]

I mean she does fall in love with him because he does not lie about his personality but I think Solas is afraid that she would change her mind after knowing his true name yes! I agree I want happy ending too more than anything. I cried too much of the Thane romance. I did know he was dying but... I didn't expect it to be.. like that and it was very bad way.. they kinda f*cked up the story.. sadly.. they should have made him die differently but I got to know that the original Thane's story writer left or something so yeah.. well we got what we got damn it haha THIS IS WHY I DON'T WANT THEM TO TAKE SOLAS AWAY FROM ME TOO T_T also... Alistair dumber me too because I made him a king and since I did not know that he would've been like '' you are dalish.. I cannot be with you cause you are not a queen material '' I was like: WHAT ARE MOTHER-- **** KIDDING ME Ö___Ö''ASD ÄKAWPHF* curses* 

Well maybe someday I'll play it again differently but sadly it was my first gameplay through so XD 

FENRIS ALSO LEAVES.. only one who actually came back. I want one of my bf's to stay and nothin bad happening to him -.- also I think that dread wolf has gone through enough sh*t during his life that he really deserves a happy ending for himself.

 

 

I would have loved an option to tell Alistair that his mom was an elf and then flip him off and jump away with explosions behind me. 

 

Solas' romance will probably end the same way Mordin died. You can keep him alive with a good ending at a huge cost.

[Eivuwan]

Confucianism is not a religion. It is a philosophy of how to be. Buddhism and daoism as well started off more like philosophies of life, but people distort them over time and added mystical aspects to the belief system that wasn't there originally.

[zambixi]

I've been thinking about that, To be honest, It looks like whatever Solas is planning to do is going to royally screw up Thedas. So I think my Lavellan would probably NOT give the Mistake-God the key to open the Potentionally-Evil-And-Or-Blight-Riddled Elvhen. 

 

I'm on the help-the-dread-wolf train and I will ride it to Solas Hell if that's what it takes!

 

But I don't think his intention is to do anything that will screw up Thedas. It might do that unintentionally, but I don't buy into the idea that he's willing to sacrifice the whole world for whatever his goals are.

 

I know nothing about eastern philosophies but could Confucianism play a part in the qun? 

 

Yes, it's probably more accurate than Buddhism, if only for the fact that it's more of a sociophilisophical system (like the Qun) rather than a religion. The hiccup I see is that Confucianism focuses a lot on one's duty to one's parents and we know the Qun actively discourages the very concept of a single maternal/paternal line or family unit.

[TanisLave]

This has no basis in any theory, but.

 

But I have this feeling that if Solas is trying to free trapped elvhen, there's a good chance they're already long gone or riddled with madness. Or even worse- the elven gods may have figured out a way to trick him into opening their prisons by faking the presence of trapped "mortals". So Solas is putting forth all this time and energy and sacrifice for a lost cause/trap. 

 

Double worse theory- it could be exactly what Mythal wants. Putting Solas in the position where he'll have to fight and kill her betrayer. 

 

I like the theory behind the words written in Red Lyrium in the thread being connected to the trapped elvhen somehow, personally. 

[Caddius]

Confucianism is not a religion. It is a philosophy of how to be. Buddhism and daoism as well started off more like philosophies of life, but people distort them over time and added mystical aspects to the belief system that wasn't there originally.

Yeah, from what I understand a lot of the older folklore got mixed in with it. It gets down to how we define 'religion', which usually becomes quite messy.

Helping my point, though, is that Theodosians don't seem to know if they should call the Qun a religion or a philosophy.

[Eivuwan]

The Qun is like Confucianism in that it believes each type of person has a place in society and stability is maintained when people respect their status. The difference is that the Qun creates roles for people are that actually based on their talents and skills (for the most part), whereas Confucianism separates people based on traditional beliefs about the abilities of the different genders, etc.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Janic99]

Rachel = Solas

Plane lady = Bioware

Ross  = Lavellan/Fans

lol I need this to happen.. he needs to come back to her like that XD

[Janic99]

I would have loved an option to tell Alistair that his mom was an elf and then flip him off and jump away with explosions behind me. 

 

Solas' romance will probably end the same way Mordin died. You can keep him alive with a good ending at a huge cost.

Me too!!
And exactly I think... well at least I hope so :S

[TanisLave]

I don't know, I genuinely think Solas -might- be willing to put Thedas at stake to further whatever his plans are, especially if he needed that much power. (( From the Orb/from Flemyth.)) He's pretty much going all in or nothing. 

[HatUmbra]

Sorry to slightly derail things in here, but I just have to vent: this game hates me!

First Solas, now I am trying to play my cutie male Lavellan and he is romancing Cassandra. All's going great, Most Romantic Candles in All of Thedas, etc., then we get back from the ball and, I just know the Chantry is going to take her away from him. Arg!

Oh well, I'll get good screenshots I guess.

 

Back to Solas, sorry:

 

http://imgur.com/OZbYx5H

 

with bonus Cole and Blackwall.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Mims]

Spoiler

DAT LAST PARAGRAPH THOUGH. Ohhh that'd be delicious. And unexpected. And perfect for how I see their relationship. Yeah, they might be old friends, but that doesn't mean they aren't going to put their own plans/ desires first. They're immortal with souls that can survive the ages. I don't think they're going to argue over who killed who Monty Python style - especially if the killing helps both of them achieve their goals.  

 

It does. I'm not saying for certain that's what I'd think would happen, but I do think it is a possibility. Mythal has had a thousand years of planning. If Fen'Harel were her enemy, then she could have prepared for him. But she didn't. She knew he'd need her power, so she saved up that spark. In the meantime, she set about making Daughter Masterrace with the clear intention of passing everything on to one of them. The anger that resonates in Mythal/Flemeth when she speaks about the betrayal...I think she wants it badly enough that she doesn't even need to be the one to fire the shot, essentially. All she needs to know is that she set things in motion.

 

So Solas gets her power. He's the only elven god either not corrupted, or that she legitimately trusts. He's also not dead, so he can accomplish what she can't. He's the wolf she sets upon her enemy, even if he's going into it thinking something entirely different.

 

Meanwhile, she's got Morrigan to nest away everything else. The things she wants to save and continued onward.

 

 

As for whether or not Solas would doom Thedas...I don't think so. He still has to live on the continent, so whatever he's planning can't be a complete salt the earth and reboot it. There's nothing to suggest that he commands that sort of power. Even souped up with Mythal power, he's at best now as strong as Flemeth. Ghost Mythal, at that. 

 

The game has been promising 'change is coming' from the start. I imagine ultimately, whatever Solas/Mythal have planned, that 'big change' is apart of it. But that change has never been depicted as an overly negative thing...just possibly dangerous. Not sure where I am going with this, but. I expect we should see some sort of huge shakeup in the DA-verse. 

[Caddius]

Did Bella leave to start her own brewery in DA:O? No? THEN NO HAPPY ENDING FOR YOU.

It had better not be some arbitrary decision in the world state. Or I will be pissed. And then laugh really hard if it's all of the seemingly inconsequential decisions finally playing a role in that ONE ending.

EDIT: Bella's ridiculously good fermented fruit juice is what opens Solas' eyes and he comes back to Skyhold with his proverbial tail between his legs.

This reminds me of the ridiculously arbitrary and wonderfully hilarious ME3 Conrad Verner quest.    Only time I've seen Shepard taken aback like that.

[SolaceInSolas]

Public service announcement: I changed my username to my Tumblr name. It was formally LinkInSpirit.

That is all.....now have a random Solas picture.