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This reminds me of the ridiculously arbitrary and wonderfully hilarious ME3 Conrad Verner quest.  :lol:  :lol: Only time I've seen Shepard taken aback like that.

<3

 

That was possibly my favorite surprise in ME3.  To think it was all possible because I scanned every damn planet in ME, convinced whats-her-face to give up the C-Sec stuff, picked the right options in ME2.  Ahhh hahaha I had no idea that was possible or going to happen.  But I was grinning like a fool when it did.



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I don't know, I genuinely think Solas -might- be willing to put Thedas at stack to further whatever his plans are, especially if he needed that much power. (( From the Orb/from Flemyth.)) He's pretty much going all in or nothing. 

 

I can't think of what he'd be interested in saving that would warrant sacrificing Thedas. He is not fond of the elven gods, he is not fond of the elvhen empire... so whatever changes he intends to pursue are probably not for either of those groups. What's left? He'd be re-installing a system he knew already failed and while Solas is the King of Messing Up, I don't think he's quite dumb enough to repeat mistakes verbatim.

 

Plus there is plenty of evidence that he is compassionate towards the people of Thedas: you get approval from helping refugees. He slams Dorian for not helping the slaves - of all races - and condemns the Iron Bull for putting the Qun ahead of his personal freedom/the Chargers. He laments the loss of dwarven culture almost as much as he laments the loss of his own. He ends up caring for almost everyone in your party to some extent, especially a romanced Lavellan. I can't see him saying "screw this" and blowing up the continent without taking some measure to protect at least the people he values. Because then who would be left...?

 

Now if bad-relationship Solas were the only one available, I could totally see him sacrificing lots of people for his goals. In those play-throughs the Inquisitor is a confirmation of everything he thinks is wrong with the world. I could see a "wipe the slate clean" mentality coming from that relationship. But it's so far removed from the other types of interactions you can have with him that I don't think they'd write a story where only that line of character development made sense.


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It does. I'm not saying for certain that's what I'd think would happen, but I do think it is a possibility. Mythal has had a thousand years of planning. If Fen'Harel were her enemy, then she could have prepared for him. But she didn't. She knew he'd need her power, so she saved up that spark. In the meantime, she set about making Daughter Masterrace with the clear intention of passing everything on to one of them. The anger that resonates in Mythal/Flemeth when she speaks about the betrayal...I think she wants it badly enough that she doesn't even need to be the one to fire the shot, essentially. All she needs to know is that she set things in motion.

 

So Solas gets her power. He's the only elven god either not corrupted, or that she legitimately trusts. He's also not dead, so he can accomplish what she can't. He's the wolf she sets upon her enemy, even if he's going into it thinking something entirely different.

 

Meanwhile, she's got Morrigan to nest away everything else. The things she wants to save and continued onward.

 

 

As for whether or not Solas would doom Thedas...I don't think so. He still has to live on the continent, so whatever he's planning can't be a complete salt the earth and reboot it. There's nothing to suggest that he commands that sort of power. Even souped up with Mythal power, he's at best now as strong as Flemeth. Ghost Mythal, at that. 

 

The game has been promising 'change is coming' from the start. I imagine ultimately, whatever Solas/Mythal have planned, that 'big change' is apart of it. But that change has never been depicted as an overly negative thing...just possibly dangerous. Not sure where I am going with this, but. I expect we should see some sort of huge shakeup in the DA-verse. 

 

All I'm sayin' Is my Lavellan ain't going to out-right trust him with the Mark, so he better be pretty darn convincin' with his World-changing shtick. 


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All I'm sayin' Is my Lavellan ain't going to out-right trust him with the Mark, so he better be pretty darn convincin' with his World-changing shtick. 

 

I don't believe Solas can take the mark back without killing her. At least, that's what Corypheus says. Its possible Solas could remove it now that he's got Mythal powers, but I doubt it. Killing her could be an option to getting back that power, but...if that was on the books, he probably would have shanked her earlier on for it. So I think the mark is relatively safe with Lavellan, unless circumstances give him reason to consider trading her life for it. 



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I don't believe Solas can take the mark back without killing her. At least, that's what Corypheus says. Its possible Solas could remove it now that he's got Mythal powers, but I doubt it. Killing her could be an option to getting back that power, but...if that was on the books, he probably would have shanked her earlier on for it. So I think the mark is relatively safe with Lavellan, unless circumstances give him reason to consider trading her life for it. 

 

I read that as shack.

 

And I was wondering why you'd think he'd shack up with her earlier on.

 

LOOK IM VERY DOOM AND GLOOMY LEAVE ME ALONE. 


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Confucianism helped structure how people should live in society. Taoism (p/n daoism) was a way of being when one left society, when it started anyway. Buddhism was a religion. It had iconic figures. you can learn buddhist philosophy (not the religion) without the spiritual figures.  honestly my study leaves me thinking like they're all mixed. I can no longer figure out where it started and how the studies branched out. I need a history class on it.

 

to make it simpler, lets say the qun has aspects of eastern philosophy. Not Buddhism, the religion, but mostly taoist philosophy. it emphasizes a way of living, that is in accordance with the world. not a rejection of it. Kill, not out of anger or rage. this is something the qunari or those who follow the qun try to understand. 



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Haha. I should have just said 'murder-knife'd'. 



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My lavellan at celebration party after Solas leaves:

fml-finds-that-will-make-you-feel-better


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Haha. I should have just said 'murder-knife'd'. 

 

I think what your saying is true, I'm unsure If he is really the type to destroy the whole world for a rebirth-type scenario.. but I'm used to Bioware using "shock" value for it's storylines, and how a sad character has to always have a sad arch and not a happy ending. I just geninuely believe he won't get the happy ending we want, unless It's at the price of something of equal value. Not to mention his storyline seems to be filled with self-sacrifice. 



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I think what your saying is true, I'm unsure If he is really the type to destroy the whole world for a rebirth-type scenario.. but I'm used to Bioware using "shock" value for it's storylines, and how a sad character has to always have a sad arch and not a happy ending. I just geninuely believe he won't get the happy ending we want, unless It's at the price of something of equal value. 

Maybe they're just bringing us down so low because they're going to build us back up so high?  They can change things up for once ya?  Man that's some serious Team Optimism right there.  Super unlikely, but a girl can dream.



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Maybe they're just bringing us down so low because they're going to build us back up so high?  They can change things up for once ya?  Man that's some serious Team Optimism right there.  Super unlikely, but a girl can dream.

I gave up on that line of thinking when I romanced Thane in ME2.

 

/team realisim.


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I think the main thing to keep in mind is that the one thing Solas hates the most is the loss of free will or servitude. So I can't see him accepting a plan where everyone is blasted away for a new era. There may be a body count, but I don't think he's given up on the planet or anything. Otherwise there's no point in helping anyone. 


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http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Adaia

She's in Leliana's Song? :o

How did I miss her?

Um...this is on topic because of the city elf Zevran discussion earlier.

*cough*



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I gave up on that line of thinking when I romanced Thane in ME2.

 

/team realisim.

I am a sucker for punishment!  Which makes no sense for me because I am a quite pessimistic person usually.  I call it realism, but sometimes I am just being a pessimist if I am going to be honest.

 

But Solas?  Optimist for the first time in my life.  Which is going to make the upcoming pain all the more soul crushing.

 

Eh if anything I just hope the story is well done, I am along for the ride no matter what direction they take the story and his fate in.  I will still cross my fingers for some mushy happy stuff though.



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I think the main thing to keep in mind is that the one thing Solas hates the most is the loss of free will or servitude. So I can't see him accepting a plan where everyone is blasted away for a new era. There may be a body count, but I don't think he's given up on the planet or anything. Otherwise there's no point in helping anyone. 

I saw a theory on tumblr I was really digging for the whole rebirth scenario, but I'm unsure If I can find it..

 

Here It is. It seems plausible enough, atleast to me. But we all have our own Headcanon/theories of course.

http://spectreoftheg...uture-isnt-real

 

PS.

Image thing.

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by http://pancakesandpl...st/107683471570


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Confucianism helped structure how people should live in society. Taoism (p/n daoism) was a way of being when one left society, when it started anyway. Buddhism was a religion. It had iconic figures. you can learn buddhist philosophy (not the religion) without the spiritual figures.  honestly my study leaves me thinking like they're all mixed. I can no longer figure out where it started and how the studies branched out. I need a history class on it.

 

to make it simpler, lets say the qun has aspects of eastern philosophy. Not Buddhism, the religion, but mostly taoist philosophy. it emphasizes a way of living, that is in accordance with the world. not a rejection of it. Kill, not out of anger or rage. this is something the qunari or those who follow the qun try to understand. 

 

Not to nitpick, but that's not exactly true. Lao Tzu's version of taoism advocates living in small villages that are somewhat far from each other. That's not completely leaving society. It's more that it questions the Confucian social norms rather than promoting anarchy.



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I will admit that I am a Xenomorph/Alien fan.

 

And I just realized that those eggs are supposed to go down your throat. 

Are they? Gods I hope so ;~;



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I saw a theory on tumblr I was really digging for the whole rebirth scenario, but I'm unsure If I can find it..

 

Here It is. It seems plausible enough, atleast to me. But we all have our own Headcanon/theories of course.

http://spectreoftheg...uture-isnt-real

 

PS.

Image thing.

tumblr_nhymu5MZk01stied7o1_500.jpg

 

by http://pancakesandpl...st/107683471570

 

Team Optimism flag wilting


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I saw a theory on tumblr I was really digging for the whole rebirth scenario, but I'm unsure If I can find it..

 

Here It is. It seems plausible enough, atleast to me. But we all have our own Headcanon/theories of course.

http://spectreoftheg...uture-isnt-real

 

Dang, yeah.  That's a good observation.  I'm curious what the Mordin Science Team thinks of it.  (The theory smartypantses)



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Did someone mention pictures with kitties? Our kitties like watching over eggs. Freckly eggs like Solas.

 

Welcome new people to the Solas Blanket Fort!

 

Kitten_Egg.jpg

Now I understand why my cats always comes on my lap when I try to play and have a romance scene with Solas.


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The fools that unleashed the blight unto this world thought they were unlocking the ultimate power.

Typing this for later theory because Solas is mad at me I kept the Wardens.

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My lavellan at celebration party after Solas leaves:

fml-finds-that-will-make-you-feel-better

OMG I FEEL YOU

"Where did the Inquisitor go?"
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I don't get how the blight came to be. Was it something that existed since the beginning of time or was it blood/lyrium that somehow became corrupted through experimentation.

 

Edit: Somehow I think understanding the blight is the key to everything.



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Dang, yeah.  That's a good observation.  I'm curious what the Mordin Science Team thinks of it.  (The theory smartypantses)

I think those who of us who hate time travel have brought up similar ideas, then discarded them and refused to speak of it because ew time travel.  :lol:

But yes, I see it as a possibility, and that meaning of 'real' makes sense.

But by golly, if Solas is going to muck about with my beloved timelines and histories.

No sir.

No even you can get away with that, Messere Egghead.  <_<


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I don't get how the blight came to be. Was it something that existed since the beginning of time or was it blood/lyrium that somehow became corrupted through experimentation.


Well the quote I just typed up there is a Solas quote. He literally just said that to me after Adamant. So I guess some fools thought they were unlocking some great power but oops.